coach didn't know that charlie tan's life as a student at >> we didn't worry about charlie, charlie's very squared away. got his act together. knows what he's doing. >> only charlie tan wasn't at all okay. it snowed that night. a muffling blanket, covering the home where something awful was about to happen. >>> why did charlie need to rush home? when we come back, the first clue, coming from a friend's mom who called 911. >> he didn't give us a lot of details. i'm just worried that heig >> and then charlie's mom makes a 911 call of her own. >> did you say you heard a shot. >> yes. >> does somebody in the house have a gun? our bacteria family's been on this cushion for generations. alright kiddos! everybody off the backpack, we made it to the ottoman. i like to watch them clean, but they'll never get me on the mattress! finally there's a disinfectant mist designed for sofas, r. its innovative cap has a 2x wider spray that kills 99.9% of bacteria. max cover is another great way to lysol that. i tried hard to quit smoking. but when we brought our daughter home, now i have nicoderm cq. th

charlie: who did he meet? >> he met wade livingston and when the revolution broke down, alexander mcdougall. these generals immediately try to recruit hamilton to their staff, but hamilton knew that postwar glory would not go to the who had written the most beautiful letters during the war but the person who was a battlefield hero. when washington asked him to be aid de camp, that was an offer he couldn't turn down. charlie: he knew that that could give him battlefield command? hime knew it could give respect, but hamilton was chafing during the revolutionary war because he would like his own command. charlie: washington needed him? >> washington needed someone more to write letters than fight battles. washington had 14 political masters, he had to answer to the continental congress, but also to 13 state governors so he had immense correspondence. hamilton was completely fluent in french, and he was not only handling the correspondence and in english but also french. charlie: as a biographer he is easy to writ

charlie: indeed. remember president obama because i was there at the time, i remember him in london saying, if you leave, you will have to get to the back of the line. zanny: the vigor -- the bigger question, the complexity of negotiating new trade agreements is mind-boggling. britain cannot do that until they leave the eu. it then has to reapply for membership of the world trade organization as an individual country, it is now a member as part of the eu. there is a complex of things that need to happen. and right now in this populist, anti-trade environment, the ease with which countries will agree to trade deals is much harder than it was. so it will take years for the brits to renegotiate trade deals. and in the interim, we are not sure what the rules and regulations will be. and that shelley -- eventually, where it is up will depend on a few things. where ins up with the e.u. what the transition is. what kind of a transition arrangement would it be? and the best outcome would be the closest possib

charlie: has the u.s.r any other country done a lot because they learn the lessons that happens a few years ago? >> more people are talking about it, but that asteroid we did not know was coming until it was too late. you might have three minutes of evacuation time. that was not large enough to catch it far enough away. plus, it is not large enough to render anybody extinct. charlie: if it is far enough away, we shoot it down or something? >> no, that is the macho -- the chimeric, gentler way is to deflected. charlie: how do you deflect it? >> there are some interesting plants that are out there all on paper, nothing has been built or funded. one way to do it is you take your spaceship, thai baht your outliner? that is your asteroid. it were your station nearby and just target there. they will feel one another and want to drift toward one another because of their mutual gravity, but you do not let that happen. you fire a little retro rocket to prevent that in the act of doing so slowly text the asteroid ou

charlie: politicians even. david: so, when leon panetta was the director, his deputy was someone who had grown up in the agency. and i think that balance between someone like john brennan, who grew up in agency, and someone like myself, who had some interaction with the intelligence community, but was not of the intelligence community, is consistent with, at least, the modern history of the agency, of having an insider and outsider in the director and deputy director slots. charlie: what is the current rules of engagement for sort of paramilitary engagement by the -- paramilitary activity by the cia? david: we have a paramilitary operation that has been part of the cia since our founding. it is something that began -- began with our predecessor. how our paramilitary officers are engaged, where they may be engaged differs widely, depending on what the mission is. it is always consistent with u.s. law. thes always consistent with rules that have been set, if it is a covert action program, from the white house. th

charlie: tiger woods is here.e is considered one of golf's greatest players if not at his best, the best. at age 21 he won his first major tournament at the masters by a record 12 strokes. he was previously the only male to win three straight u.s. amateur titles with a total of 14 major championships under his belt, he trails only jack niklaus who has 18. he has been sidelined by injury including three back surgeries. he delayed his return to competitive golf stating "my game is vulnerable and not where it needs to be." this year marks the 20th anniversary of the tiger woods foundation, the charitable organization focuses on youth education and intends to double the number of students attending college through it scholarship this year. i am pleased to have tiger woods at this table for the first time. tiger: thank you, charlie. charlie: we have been trying this for long time. this has been an interesting several weeks. there is the ryder cup. you were instrumental, you were with him on the course and do -- he says

from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: maria sharapova is here. she is a five-time grand slam tennis champion and one of the world's highest-paid and highest profile athlete. in january, she tested positive for a heart medication recently banned by anti-doping regulators. she disclosed the infraction in march. maria: i wanted to let you know that a few days ago i received a letter from the idf that i had failed a drug test at the australian open. i did fail the test and i take full responsibility for it. charlie: the international tennis federation band sharapova from competition for two years. today, the court of arbitration for sport announced it was reducing her suspension by nine months. the ruling held that the itf's original penalty went too far for a violation that was committed unintentionally. sharapova is cleared to return to competitive tennis in april. i am pleased to have her at this table for this first time. tell me your reaction to this decision that came from switzerland. maria: friday morning was a beautiful day for me and my fam

charlie: for you? weather in social atmospheres or a journalistic atmosphere, i very much still -- i think that everything i do comes from the same place, whether it is writing or acting. i am much better at letting the story be told to me then prodding or interrogating. anduch of the prodding interrogating that i see the professional journalist do -- you are unique. i cannot explain why. you are asking me to explain him. i do not know why i think charlie rose is unique. you are very prodding, you are very informed. overall, i feel with american journalism -- we know that there are stellar , but i feel that that if you wait long enough, if you listen to people they will tell you who they are. i was much more interested in watching him and listening to him than saying, what is the solution to the drug crisis? as i said, i did have and i told it to him. charlie: does he have a solution to the drug crisis? >> that's what i'm saying. hypothetically getting into certain kinds of questions, and he says so in

charlie: very. president obama, and he has said this, we have the strongest military, we have the strongest economy, the most technological skills, 18 of the top 20 universities, all these things. so i said to him, what could stop us from owning the 21st century? not owning it completely, because it is not a zero-sum game and we should not be -- in favor of an alliance with china. he said to me, our politics. i tend to agree with that. we are not funding science. we are not funding education. we are not doing things that have been part of the american creed. jon: from your lips to god's ears. charlie rose, ladies and gentlemen. [applause] ♪ david: welcome to "bloomberg businessweek." officesthe magazine in new york. how will history judge fed chair janet yellen? trouble in paradise, and a company that might be sitting of the biggest oilfield in america. all that and more ahead on "bloomberg businessweek." ♪ carol: i'm carol massar and i'm here with ellen pollack. you guys run a section about how ban

charlie: that's in your head.ggie did with the song and that's what i did with the dueling code. charlie: and then there's the story of going to the white house. lin-manuel: yeah. charlie: you have one song. one song. they think, wouldn't it be great if you come here and do something you've already done? i don't think you have one song -- why were you so hell-bent on this one song for a performance at the white house? lin-manuel: they said we'll be happy for you to do anything from "in the heights." if you have anything else on the american experience -- charlie: they said if you have anything else from the american experience. lin-manuel: i said i have a hot 16 bars from alexander hamilton. [laughter] if not at the white house, when? do you know what i mean? if the white house calls, when you have 16 about alexander hamilton in your back pocket. the call felt like a sign -- "i have to do this there." like when i was asked to do the lincoln center concert. the date they gave me was hamilton's birthday and i was li

charlie: thank you so much. >> good to be with you, charlie. charlie: we will be right back.harlie: we continue with our look at the zika virus and its impact in florida with a conversation with the chief medical correspondent for cbs news, a practicing physician. this is from a conversation recorded on thursday afternoon. >> i think the number one thing that is going on right now is that every one of my colleagues at every level of government, especially in the health profession, are beside themselves over the lack of funding to help this zika outbreak. back in february, president obama requested 1.9 billion dollars in emergency funding at the request of the cdc, dr. todd freeman at the head of that. charlie: moving money around? >> they wanted new emergency money. what happened was, nothing. no new funding has been allocated. almost 600 million dollars has moved around. it was money that was supposed to go to ebola and other things. that has to be replenished. what has happened is a love of politics, and where we stand right now, which is a $1.1 billion compromise bill righ

it seemed like charlie tan had the whole world ahead of him, but then charlie's father was killed in the tan home, and everything changed. police were being told one story, but the evidence was telling them another. and there were also three 911 calls. did one of them hold the clue that would unlock what really happened on that wintry night? here's dennis murphy with "house of secrets." ♪ >> cayuga. that's cayuga lake in ithaca, new york. and it's where you'll find one of the most prestigious universities in the nation. cornell, the ivy league, big red. more than 13,000 undergrads here working towards degrees will with good fortune take their places in medicine, the law, the arts. there's no doubt a cornell education can be a gold-plated entrance ticket to adult life. and only the best need apply, students like charlie tan. he was so kind, his classmate featured him in a video, "random acts of kindness. giving gifts to complete strangers." >> not just a great kid but the greatest of great kids. >> reporter: charlie was the son of chinese immigrants who became mr. everything in his hi

charlie: you saw the movie rush. lewis: yes. charlie: you know nikki well.ewis: he has been one of my bosses. charlie: he knows what it is like. he knows the pressure. he knows the distractions. he knows everything there is to know. he is a world champion. but at the same time, he is very wary of distraction. as you know. he wants lewis to be only thinking about the race. he said that to me. i worry about him distracted. you heard that? lewis: yes, definitely. you have to imagine, for nikki, it is a strange relationship we we had notecause really met other than shaking each other's hand in 2010. and i was driving for another team. and he didn't have a great opinion of me. he didn't know me. he didn't really understand me. he didn't believe what i was doing was right. charlie: this was it during those years you weren't at your best? lewis: absolutely. the up-and-down years. charlie: so he had reason to you hade doubt because won the world championship, but then you had a fallow period. : he came to me in 2012. he said we need you. --rlie: sadie's need you mer

charlie: david ray.y fromfocus military themes and show character struggling through human problems we share that are not specific to military or civilians. like a military audience that accurately reflect them back. civilians telling military audience what it's like to be in the military. not that people can't understand the difference in culture. but we're not going in with preconceived notions with what people will respond to in what they don't. one of my favorite things -- i'm rambling, but we did this monologue from china by scott oregon. an employer reprimanding an employee for not wearing a bra. all the marines afterwords, the male marines were like, i thought the whole thing was good to go and i understood what you guys were after. there was that one monologue about that woman yelling at her employee for not wearing a bra that we felt like was an indirect attack on the way we do things in the military. there was a point for structure and uniformity. we thought that you were saying -- mocking the

charlie: right.evlin: and i think there is no way to make it go faster without possibly missing stuff, which, frankly, would only make the situation worse, so what a lot of people say is, look, it is very likely that the next president, if it is hillary clinton, could be sworn in while an investigation is ongoing and, frankly, while more than one investigation is ongoing. charlie: i am, anne, looking at "the washington post" today, the fbi chief, the lead story, draws storm of protest, all sides demand -- i underlined this -- all sides demand details in e-mail probe. do everybody, the hillary campaign, the trump campaign, do they want this released before? do they want the investigation not to extend into past election day? anne: well, from the clinton campaign's standpoint, they want something out there that gives some shape and direction to this. just said, the fbi could say that in an initial scan of this material, is that most of all or some are duplicates, and, you know, we are going to proceed

charlie: is it illegal?o potentially say to another country, i want you to engage in an illegal act. it is illegal to hack. eric: it is illegal to hack. charlie: i want you to engage in an illegal hack to my opponent with a political advantage to me. eric: if he said that, it would probably be illegal. i am not sure he used those words and that way. that is why his exact verbiage would be important. there is a reason it is not -- charlie: would americans be shocked at how much hacking is going on? eric: yes. there is a reason it is not disclosed. charlie: for what reason? eric: national security concerns, it would reveal sources and methods and the tactics we have two prevent hacking by a variety of entities. charlie: we know they hacked john brennan's phone. we know they hacked the personnel. we know they hacked sony. we know they hacked other private companies. we know they hacked the dnc. do you believe it was the russians who hacked the dnc? eric: i do not know. i am not trying to avoid the question. i r

>> from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. charlie: rem koolhaas is here. he is one of the most influential architects who works today. he is an author, theorist, and a professor at harvard. some of his most notable projects include the cctv headquarters in beijing, and casa da musica in portugal. the two major buildings have been opened in the last year are the garage museum of contemporary art in moscow and the prada in milan. i am pleased to have him back at this table. we missed out two years ago when you were in venice. it continues to be a great life for you. rem: it is an amazing life because it enables me to be at places where things are radically changing. there is a need to articulate a particular ambition. there is a need to intervene in a situation. it is really a great opportunity. charlie: what you do, you have to define the time we are in. rem: my role is a reporter who is simply alert and describing changes. as you describe the change, you find the opportunities where to intervene. a sense of forming -- a moment in time when things are chang

charlie: this game.l of the tournaments which meant the most to you question mark the first masters when you were 21? tiger: meant the most or the hardest to win? charlie: both. tiger: men's the most was the 97 masters. onehardest one was the last in 2008. my leg was broken. charlie: you played through that. tiger: note a.c.l.. my leg was broken. charlie: how did you do that? if i know. i don't know how i pulled that off. charlie: you said to me today what you love about the game is morenning, but specifically beating somebody. that is what you love. tiger: that is fun. charlie: what is it about the military? the navy seals that had you so admiring?bsessed, charlie: my dad was in special forces. being around special forces operators on my life, i have seen that world. yes butld is difficult, it is also comparable to me. i was raised in it. some of my best friends were operators. the guys who were operating became retired and we still play golf. that was a world that i had grown up in. was it a big jump f

charlie: yeah. the frequency that toilets imply? 24 times a day? [laughter] charlie: i will tell you more why i am ok with that. i understand all of the dementias of somehow of people's medical information ought to be private. other people should not have access to it because it violates their right of privacy. i also believe so strongly that we have sensors and devices that can alert us to our health, that's really significant, and we would be much healthier if we had a greater sense of how our body was functioning. rem: you're obviously totally right. in that sense, i am also in a difficult position. it is not that we want to warn against these technologies, per se. we want to alert the world that if you add all of them together, there is perhaps an overdose or an element of surveillance, and it is like sitting in a car and basically if you want to drive without a safety belt, the car in a way sabotages the intention. and so, in that sense, yes, it is a smart thing. and yes, it is a good thing. an

charlie: protection.: when i'm doing another show, the last thing i am thinking about is what is going on. i am thinking about having a drink with you, because in truth, i am having such a great the minutia.t in if i hear a note the wrong, that is when i come back to earth. otherwise i become that thing -- charlie: and that's the performance. jon: it's fantastic. it's spiritual. charlie: and you are at one with the audience? jon: absolutely. but on another plane. charlie: why is it your band in the rock 'n roll hall of fame? jon: you know, charlie, the truth is, we have met all of the requisites, and if you really want to be brutally honest, some of us have friends in the business, and some of us have friends that are not such good friends and there are people who are envious and jealous and i've had a couple of falling outs with him of those people and they are going to hold it over my head. look, statistics speak alone. the music has spoken for generations. i won't get in while these guys are there. it'

charlie: thank you for coming. tiger: thank you, charlie. charlie: tiger woods for the hour. you for joining us. a conversation about not only performance, but the will to win. ♪ >> will trades at its highest in a year as we count down to global production cuts worth almost $2 billion a day. a third ofhas lost its value after forecasting losts. >> john kerry set to lay out his vision for peace in the middle east. >> turkey seen as the

welcome. >> good to be here, charlie. charlie: is it as simple as i just suggested?he best defense against the m.v.p.? >> it comes down to that. it is ironic, we sat there and the commissioner and watch the super bowl a few years ago. we watch the denver broncos. at the time, they were the number one offense in the national football league. so here they are, two years later, a total transformation of their football team and coming back and now coming into a super bowl with the number one defense. i give a lot of credit to john away for -- john elway for them is that he made from then until now. charlie: he understood that he needed a great defense. his whole world was offense. >> he went temperatures late in his career. he did with a running game and he did it with defense. when you look in the last two years, and this offense of state of mind that we have in the national football league, think about the teams that are in the super bowl this time. seattle seahawks, daily defense last two years. this year, even carolina, they now lead the league in takeaways on the de

eric: thank you, charlie. charlie: it is true.s on the taste and experience of people but you are on the list. eric: we are inspired by what we find in new york, all the different ethnicities, cultures. i travel, i speak to chefs from china and asia and other parts of the world. charlie: does that change what you do at the restaurant? eric: you evolve, of course. i am in my soul a french chef who is inspired by different cultures and that becomes a way a kind of fusion but it's french food. charlie: how is a french chef different from a spanish chef different from an italian chef? eric: it all depends. you are going to be inspired by your surroundings. charlie: you would be different from a cook in lyon. eric: my surrounding, it is not the same as the cook in britain and my cooking is very different. charlie: they are inspired by the ocean and the surroundings. eric: it doesn't mean i'm not inspired by it as well because today, we interact in many events, we see books. the world is becoming one and influences are coming and we are

charlie: what made her wonderful? [laughter] charlie: ok. give me one. as it voice?rdon, to complement you in the room, we didn't know. there were all these other people that had been in this and that movie. just her suitability for the role just shone. i think it is about being both effortlessly beautiful and also both modest, and yet have a lot going on behind the eyes. charlie: she can do "no" very well. [laughter] and you have to have prince philip, don't you? > we do. charlie: it began because of a presence? > chemistry. the minute the two of them were together. claire: it was electric. [laughter] >> what are you doing, debasing this? it was an actor's chemistry. charlie: before after they read? or after they read? >> the minute they were in the room. i made the producer's life difficult. matt is a fierce negotiator or his agent. [laughter] i said to the producers, it's this fellow or nobody. there is nobody. charlie: and then you have to go across the pond to find winston churchill. >> it was the casting director's idea. we did it on " the queen," we chose jame

charlie: like? lorne: there are -- comedy is filled with people that are funny and miserable all the time. charlie rose: in life, or comedy? lorne it is not something that : brings them joy. they do it and they are good at it, but they are not fun to be around. comedy is probably too important to be left to professionals. when you are around people who are funny, the thing that makes it the most fun is that when you are around someone funny, they are funny. nothing makes people that do comedy laugh more than other people around the being funny. charlie: you said adam mckay was like that. tina: funniest man in the room. lorne: adam brought tina. tina: adam gave me my job, brought me to "snl" as a writer. we were in chicago at the same time. he was on stage. charlie: when you are the funniest person in the room, is it just off-the-cuff funny? tina: yeah. in adam's case. lorne: it also helps when you are adam's size. a little intimidation. [laughter] charlie: do you want to direct films? robert: i woul

charlie: this is a clip.nonprofit job with middle school students. >> since you guys are so interested in my personal life, here it is. i am 29 years old, because it is my birthday. i have a college degree and i work in the nonprofit world because i like to give back. i have been with my boyfriend for five years and my hair is like this on purpose. i hope this covers everything? >> why aren't you married? >> i'm just not. >> my dad says nobody is looking for black women anymore. [laughter] >> that's enough. >> tell you that the black women are not bitter, we are just tired of not being good enough. >> her outfit is -- [laughter] charlie: was this fun? guest: it is fun. that scene was fun to shoot, the kids hurt my feelings because they were good at being mean. it spoke to my real experiences, all the questions they asked on the show, those are questions i have received in real life. i worked in the nonprofit world and i wanted to show how hard it can be. the disconnect between these children in particular she

charlie: it is.ut after you see one, you want to see another, because until the very end, there are questions. moira: we are not giving you the answer. we are asking questions. the goal is to start a dialogue. charlie: 10 episodes of "making a murderer" are available on netflix. ♪ he appeared on this program numerous times. here is a look at those conversations. alan rickman: there is a huge fear factor you have to deal with in theater. at least on film, if you screw up, you get another take. and it doesn't go away, the fear. charlie: i read that you sent that, that somehow still, with all that you have done, the fear factor is still there. doesn't go away during the run? alan: if you can get it to push down to the right place. i guess it's connected to adrenaline and focus, energy and all those things. but it's a useless thing. it's not really very positive. it's just like a little grim that sits on your shoulder and tries to make you fail. charlie: [laughter] alan: and often succeeds. charlie: real

announcer: from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: david cohen is here. he has served as deputy director of the cia since february, 2015. he was previously under secretary of the treasury for terrorism and financial intelligence. in that role he was the key , architect of the administration's sanctions against iran and russia. he has also led efforts to disrupt the financing of isis and other terrorist groups. this week, president obama visited saudi arabia, where he urged arab states to increase their commitment to the fight against terrorism. the president heads to germany on monday to talk strategy with leaders such as angela merkel and french president francois hollande. i'm pleased to have david cohan at the first time at the table. it's said you know as much about sanctions as anybody in the obama administration. give me the sense of what you have learned about how to make them work. how effective they are, what you have to have. once you have applied them and taken them off, is it difficult to put them back on? david: sanctions can be enormously ef

charlie: clearly.t besser: like this seeso place, also commissioned a variety show where we shoot the best material from our theater. now everywhere in the country you can see it. that is like an ultimate goal of ours. back in the 1990's in chicago we used to joke we would have our own television station one day, and kind of, we do. you do not have to appeal to 30 million people anymore. ian: you see stuff like it happens on stage, which is radical, crazy, experimental. matt besser: you could do the exact comedy you want to do and only appeal to one million but still be considered successful. charlie: one more note about del close. this is sitting in front of me. aykroyd, chris farley, stephen colbert, boko incurred, odenkirk, amy sedaris -- this is an equitable history of comedy he is part of. amy: he is probably the most famous person comedy that people don't know about. he was a very successful and hilarious teacher and mentor. charlie: beyond being funny, he was also a teacher. amy: he was. i know

charlie: thank you. anxious to get out there because he thinks, he said to me, i can go find, give me two weeks, i can go find out what it is with the working men and women in america, what it is with the people on the assembly lines who tend to want to support trump, what it's about and can reason with them and explain my wife to them. i believe he believes that. he had to do that for barack obama at the convention in 2012. maureen: amazingly, right, because barack obama, as it turned out doesn't like politics. charlie: richard nixon and jimmy carter. maureen: right, he likes to be above the fray, but politics is the fray. but bill is not as much as a pure boon to her as he was in 2008 because -- charlie: less popular. maureen: young african-americans are reluctant to vote for her partly because of bill's record on criminal justice. charlie: incarceration which he has apologized for. maureen: and nafta which is no longer -- charlie: all part of the center when she has moved away from the center. maureen

charlie: often?ohn: in cases where watson has had sufficient data and sufficient time to learn, it will be as good or better than the best because it has more data to ingest than any other human being. charlie: success is termed by return on investment? john: it is in business. this may separate i.b.m. it is the core of our strategy. it is one of the reasons we are 105 years old in addition to the ability to change. but we want to help society. we chose health care as the first place to aim watson. yes, it is big, and digitized and we want to have a big business there. but we felt the impact that we could have on human lives was beyond anything we could have in any other industry. we are started there. charlie: but you have to be careful. you can't over promise? john: that is correct. but the potential of this, i have been in this industry-0 aids. 1/2 effect i have bibblet some of the largest super computers. i was involved in the system that beat kasparev. this is like something i have never seen be

charlie: agreed.irms onl: wall street can deal with any regulatory environment the government puts forward. it is the little guys who are drowning, the regional banks that cannot make loans. small businesses that cannot expand because of the regulatory assault going on across the country. --is a mainstream problem main street problem. charlie: are you talking about dodd-frank? sen. mcconnell: dodd-frank is part of it. charlie: regulations from various agencies? fcc, younnell: epa, name the agency. there is a steady stream of people in my office every week. there is a new rule from the labor department called the fiduciary rule. just one after another. what it does is it creates a scoliosis on the system. your system is clogged up. that is why we have this tepid growth rate. rate isr participation back to what it was in the 1970's under jimmy carter. charlie: i argue with you a little on the fact that we need to create more demand in the economy so consumers want to spend more. i believe if consumers a

♪ >> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: amy schumer is here.he is a writer, actor, and author. she placed to sold out audiences around the world. she won comedy tour of the year. amy: i showed up to film this movie and i was like, i think i'm a model now. i think a lot of girls are like this. we have a sneaking suspicion in the back of our heads. mi, maybe, gorgeous? [laughter] i think i'm gorgeous. right? [applause] gorgeous, but i just haven't stumbled on the right here do -- hair do. one day i will cut bangs and everyone will be like, damn, and i'm like, treat me the same, you guys. [laughter] i'm the same person. and they're like, we can't, we're too hard. i'm like, i get it. but then my stunt double was a guy. [laughter] just in case you've never been to l.a., it is filled with the most beautiful people from all over the world. picture the most beautiful girl in your high school, the one you wanted to be. i'm talking to the guys right now. and everyone was like, you are too pretty for buffalo, go to l.a. everyone is hot there. everybody. u

charlie: you are ahead. [laughter] charlie: and you have commented.hat is it about the game that makes it so interesting for you? itcause you are wrapping u around the idea that it is great to teach strategy. mr. rumsfeld: well, it is so complicated, and as opposed to regular solitaire with two dekes , and instead of seven piles, you have 10, and you have six cards at the bottom, and you have to get those cards on the aces up above. you can't pull them down. to do this effectively, you have to be thinking 3, 4, 5 plays ahead, and you have to anticipate and think about whether it is better to turn over one of the cards and no what that is going to be, or to take a card from up above. it's a delightful game. it is challenging, vastly more complex than normal solitaire. charlie: is it more complex than bridge? mr. rumsfeld: i am not a skillful bridge player. charlie: but you have played. and you know a lot of smart people think it is an intelligent game. up rumsfeld: i would rank it there with bridge. and the other thing you can do, , card games did not

charlie: but it is true. samuel: very much so. charlie: what is it? samuel: i think we have a similar respect and love for the cinema. cinema played a big part of our young lives. our childhood lives. i spent a lot of time in the movies. watching television, entertainment with only children. i don't know he read as much as i did. i read a lot. charlie: he was watching videos. samuel: yeah. i had a great desire to get out of the place i was in into a place i thought was better in the world. places that were different, that i wanted to see and explore. charlie: a place for you to stand to find your dream. samuel: of course. there was nothing in chattanooga that was going to allow me to samuel: i wanted to go to the world. when i graduated high school i applied to a lot of colleges but i also filled out a form on a merchant ship because i wanted to see the world. my mom found it. she found the letter that came back saying they needed more information before they could give me the job. we'll kind of a job is this? a ship going around the world. charlie: i

charlie: exactly.t plays off the notion that ronald reagan and tip o'neill would do battle all day and then at night have a scotch and try to talk about the world. gloria: they did? charlie: oh yes, that's true. gloria: i can imagine tip o'neill doing that but not ronald reagan. just because he did not care that much. always reading off of his california behavioral institute cards. charlie: reagan has some interesting traits. he wrote a lot. he wrote a lot of things. he wrote a lot of those speeches. not butlike them or they were not written by someone else. give him some pride of authorship. gloria: you have resurrected an ancient memory. [laughter] ronald reagan as president of the united states actually called me in paris. charlie: as president? gloria: as president. i said, you can make up something better than that, but it turned out to be true. he was making calls that should not have been made by a secretary. he was making them himself to do -- to ask people to do television ads about products f

charlie: thank you for coming. charlie: the great ken burns is here. for 35 years he's brought the documentary tradition to the forefront. his civil war series was the highest rated series on public television. he's created authoritative accounts on the history of baseball, jazz, and much, much more. -- he revisits america's pastime with a new documentary on the life and legacy of jackie robinson. he was unwilling to accept discrimination before he came to major league baseball. >> from a little kid. he got it from his mother. she was a wonderful woman and he entered into this remarkable partnership. the film that we've made is, in many ways, a love story. a multigenerational for from the of a african-american family as well as a portrait of civil rights in the back half of the 20th century. when he came up and walked out on the diamond, charlie, on april 15, 1947, martin luther king was still in college. harry truman hasn't integrated the military. rosa parks was a decade away from refusing to give up her seat though jackie had done it back in 1944 in