bannon and navarro are pushing pence. powerpoint had the military stuff and pence in it. so when you look at that, elie, it seems important to mr. navarro, one thing we learned tonight that we didn't know a week ago is it seems important for him to say he was doing just this one thing, and the other things that may have been illegal, she says he didn't know about. >> yeah, he believes that if he can keep this on he honestly believed that the election was stolen, that will keep him safe. that will keep him out of trouble. and from where i sit, and again y don't know how this is all going to play out, but from where i sit, unless he is willing to implement somebody else who told him to go out and make these claims up, essentially, about the results of the election. unless he can point to somebody else who ordered him to do that, then he's on the hook for his own seditious conduct. if i were him, i personally -- just looking at the man, i do not believe he did this on his own steam. i believe he was ordered. i believe somebody did tell him, peelt, go look into this. i don't

we have seen with steve bannon _ swinging? we have seen with steve bannon and _ swinging?ed his base i would expect the former president to take the safe bout, a search is fifth amendment privilege and say nothing, take his chances with an appeal and nothing, take his chances with an appealand a nothing, take his chances with an appeal and a civil verdict against him but you never know with former president. he may come out swinging, like you said. nine years and 15,000 deaths after going into afghanistan, the last soviet troops were finally coming home — the withdrawal completed in good order, but the army defeated in the task it had been sent to perform. malcolm has been murdered. that has a terrible effect for the morale of the people. i'm terrified of the repercussions in the streets. one wonders who is next. as the airlift got under way, there was no let—up in the eruption itself. lava streams from a vent low in the crater flow down to the sea on the east of the island, away from the town for the time being. it could start flowing again at any time. the russians heral

he told steve bannon all about his plan. proposed a solution in the legislature that allowed him to seat a phony slate of electors. >> we're gonna take our power back. we are going to -- we're getting there on that. but we need to act -- >> hold on. i think we have some breaking news here. you're saying you're getting joint resolution to actually go forward. the republicans control the house in the sent it. to take the power back from the secretary of state and put it in the slate legislator to -- the electors? >> say it what you will about bannon, once in a lifetime television. >> and about those plans mentioned on the bannon podcast, he was removed from the -- on november 5th 2020. he had to leave the meeting abruptly as he had tested positive for the coronavirus. master anna recovered to help the planning of the january 6th insurrection, where he spent over $3,000 of his campaign fun to bus to washington to d.c. and attend the riot himself. he is not the only attendee who got a subpoena. the committee wants to hear from m

steve bannon's podcast. >> i am the wall we to claim your vote and nationalized of elections. me because i am standing in their way. of truth and transparency in elections, bringing hope to the people. >> okay. i know what you're thinking. i want to, and peters as a ridiculous figure, mired in scandal. colorado was not a solidly blue state. this year's elections are expected lead to heavily favor republican candidates. look, she can win the primary and, in a tough year for democrats, can she win state in colorado? yes, there's a possibility. this lady who is currently under investigation for tampering with election machines, who pushes donald trump's big lie, who goes as far as to speak at the conference of that mike pillow dude, that women could conceivably be in charge of overseeing all of colorado's elections in 2024. don't delude yourself into thinking it cannot happen. jena griswold is the current colorado state secretary of state, she said today that tina peters is unfit to be the secretary of state and is a danger to colorado elections. she joins me now. i guess i want

steve bannon speaks right there for the republican party base. the hard core republican party voters are with bannon and not pence. you do a great job of trying to wake up the country, but this election year, jim, man, we have to wake everybody up to this realization that this party is more bannon than pence, and they are on track right now to take control again in 2022 if the rest of america doesn't wake up and geoff their ass and get out and vote. >> yeah, i mean, steve vbannon s the vice president of the republican party, and so this is all on the same day, molly, that the republican party voted to censure adam kinzinger and liz cheney, and this is all in the democratic-led legitimate discourse of which chene responded of the rioters that this is january 6th, and this is not legitimate political discourse, and the rnc is saying that not people involved in violence, but they didn't get it right the first time, and it is sounding like cleanup on aisle 6, and it is pathetic. >> yeah. i mean, they really made the wrong choice, but continuously for

bannon's under indictment. you followed all of this. it's not as if nobody's ever gotten in trouble. there's serious felonies. there's trials coming. what do you see in the way that the committee is tracking something that relates to the health of our democracy ongoing? >> you know, what we've seen with navarro there, it's a classic trumpian approach because what they're doing is it must be okay because i'm saying it out loud. and how else would it not be? you see what he's going through there. well, you just -- you do this thing and then you send it back to the states and they decertify the election. as you said, that -- you can't -- that's not the constitution. that's not the statute law. that's not anything. that's just saying step by step how you try to overturn the election. but the thing is to a great extent, this has worked for trump, and it's worked for many of his deputies. you even that, you know, there was another breaking development this afternoon where the national had archives have asked the department of justice to exami

he is very anti-democracy ala steve bannon.iven all that he has his tentacles in. >> until this week he was on the board of facebook. i think you can lead the tea leaves on where things are going with him leaving. so you can see that happening now, now he's investing in parallel areas, rumble, a youtube knockoff. to be exclusive to their platform or at least opposed to their platform. in that space they're trying to create a parallel internet basically that won't be affected at all by the moderation in any capacity except for the moderation of course that they want to be on there. so that's the whole mission here is to create an anti-elite internet, a separate internet where they can create and craft their own narratives without much judgment. >> yeah. by the way, i've never heard of rumble. it's the site that offered joe rogan $100 million if he would switch to their side where presumably he could say the "n" word all he wants without anybody saying anything to him about it. curt, you know the other figure, steve bannon, and t

in 2019, i posed the question to steve bannon, since you brought bannon up, and that part of the book, i asked him about mike pence, and the possibility that mike pence could be taking a baton from trump. and he laughed, and he said, are you kidding me? trump wants the next guy to lose by 40 points, because he alone could do this. donald trump alone wants to be the guy who did this. and i think that's true. i don't think trump has any interest. when i asked him about that, not only did he deny that mike pence was ever in any danger on january 6th, he kind of brushed it off as, oh, the people who said hang mike pence, they don't mean anything. and i put that in the book, right next to a section about the future of the republican party, which as far as i can see, only has donald trump as its leader. >> jeremy peters, he's gonna stay with me a little longer. coming up, what he reveals in this book, about a defining moment for the new gop, when the 11th hour continues. i'm jonathan lawson here to tell you about life insurance through the colonial penn program. if you're age 50 to 85, and

steve bannon will not be pardoned for his current indictment if he is convicted.timidate people like that, i think that's an act of desperation. i think the rnc resolution was an act of desperation. i think it's because the walls are closing in on trump. more documents are coming in. this committee is doing good work and getting the records everywhere. those records are what's going to tell the truth. the texts from that day, the back and forth that people that we have already seen regardless of whether the people cooperate, their texts and e-mails will tell the story along with mike like bill barr and other justice department officials. i hope they talk to pat and others who told him he couldn't do what he was trying to do crack pots to come in and tell him to do. i don't blame the crack pots as much as i blame him because he was seeking out any nut to engage. >> bill, i understand the point you're making. it is interesting. it's not slightly manifesting itself in a different way for mainstream republicans but still there. bill, today the florida governor ron des

we saw steve bannon win, he says he's in for a dime, he might as well be in for $1. he should be unbelievably clear. but, i agree, he could've been better. >> that's my tactical argument, although that advice is worth charging me for it. i think that we, your point stewart, is well taken here. i will say, chris christie has said. that chris christie said that he lost to joe biden. again, those two things are connected. because this entire thing is reverse engineered around absolving him from losing. a frankly getting his butt kicked and being a one term president and being a loser who, generally, are not looked on unfavourably in the american politics on both parties. one-term celebrates presidents are not celebrated. they are not the mark of the party afterwards. it's like, hey, forget about you, we want someone else. a huge part of the mid-owes that has been built here is precisely to inoculate him against that. >> yes, but you know, that's the amazing thing -- oh sorry. >> go ahead. and then i'll go with mona. >> it's not unlike a lost cause of the civil war. we d

>> this appears to go back to steve bannon. bannon was who they were pursuing.ro when he was a white house trade adviser appeared to be working with bannon to overturn the 2020 election. navorro had written in his book about a green bay sweep. michigan was one of the states there was a focus on in the trump world to try and overturn the result of a popular vote there. he wrote it was the last best chance to snatch a stolen election from the democrat's jaws of deceit. so navorro said that trump was on board with this, that there were members of congress on board with this. the committee wants to talk to him about that. but the thing to take away from this, navorro is not a household name. it feels like there's a subpoena every day we're getting from them. in this it shows the committee is not just looking at january 6th, they want to pick away at understanding the entire disinformation committee and then claiming they were shielded from testimonies. we you will all see where this goes. just ahead, bracing for a possible invasion in ukraine. the u.s. plan to get a

one with steve bannon stands out.trump tower. bannon taught trump looked like hitler as he descended the escalator. when he saw trump make his entrance that morning, he thought he knew exactly what he is seeing. that's hitler. the opening scene of triumph through the will flashed through his mind. he meant it as a compliment. >> he did. i asked about it again. what he meant by that is that trump was a master manipulator of public opinion and of images and could rouse the sentiments, the anger, the frustrations and emotions of the people who supported him. and that trump was, as we know, somebody who understood how to use the media almost better -- not almost better, better than a lot of us in journalism did. it's something that -- in line with that, his pollster tony fabrizio told me he did a panel discussion with journalists after trump won and everyone was surprised and said how many republican primary voters do you think actually check twitter once a week? and it was something like 20%. it was a really small number

that's where bannon comes in.he did demand republicans draw more districts so trump would have won them easily. that's what desantis appears to be doing. it is more extreme than what as i said his own party was planning. now that you're caught up on all of this, desantis is drawing a line in the sand and saying not only is this what he wants to do and it is more extreme than the other republicans in the state, he says it is a litmus test. he is going to veto anything less than this plan. in classic trumpian projection, he makes that pledge while accusing others of doing what he calls unconstitutional gerrymandering. >> we will not be signing any congressional map that has an unconstitutional gerrymander in it. and that's going to be the position that we stick to. so just take that to the bank. >> that was heading into the weekend. as for gerrymandering, the post explains republicans could win 20 out of 28 seats in a state trump won by just three percentage points. translation, you have all the voters voting, repub

there are real legal implications and i imagine what happened to steve bannon is weighing heavily on interesting, mark meadows, in particular, we learned a lot of what took place in the lead up to january 6th and the hours on january 6th, text messages back and forth and so forth without even testimony and i spoke with quade and she talk beside that document drops could be even more possibly consequential than testimony from rudy giuliani especially if you invoke attorney client privilege, talk to me about how important you see his testimony or participation in this committee's investigation being. >> well, yasmin, i think it's very important and brin is exactly right. just because you see steve bannon and other folks who defied subpoenas you are still bound by law and more than likely go to jail if you don't comply with the subpoena request from this committee or any committee so i think it's in his best interest to testify but look, you covered this, the trump era for years and you know how close rudy giuliani has been with trump going not just back to the campaign but before that

we have to bear in mind that just because you have steve bannon and a few other folks who have defied likely go to jail if you don't comply with a subpoena request from this committee or from any committee. so i think it's definitely in rudy's best interest that he testify. look, yasmin, you covered this, the trump era for years, and you know how close rudy giuliani has been with trump going not just back to the campaign but before that. so i think his testimony is extremely important. i think any sort of text messages and documents that he's in possession of or that he was involved in are also very important. you know, he was a very close ally to president trump. he also loves attention, as brendan mentioned. and you know, i think him, you know, having some relevance again, going back in front of the committee, might be something he's actually looking forward to doing because he thinks it's going to get him more press. you know, i have no idea what's going on in his mind, but it would certainly be in his best interest to comply with the committee. >> certainly likes his name in light

. >> another came from steve bannon.ng eventually to your grave. okay? because it is a mark of shame, and you are a stone-cold coward. a stone-cold coward. boris epshteyn, started with numbers and analysis. this thing broke this afternoon. my head's blown up. boris, help me out. i can't take pence and i can't take pence and marc short and coke guys up there ratting out trump up on capitol hill right now. >> because they're telling the truth to the january 6th committee. >> right. >> that's just -- what you call projection. right? the first half of his answer, about how they're cowards. about how, you know -- the really telling also is they're ratting out trump. what mob bosses say when people tell the truth during investigations. criminal inquires. sounds once again like steve bannon's got a lot to hide he doesn't want it come out with so deeply invested in the cult can't confront the truth. accuse everyone for what he's done. that's the game. >> got to get your take on rudy giuliani apparently caused two judges to walk

they couldn't get to meadows and bannon. they're in discussions to talk to rudy giuliani and in a discussion of focusing on what was going on, who was advising the president, it is a potential step forward from the stonewalling. the stone walling that has hurt the ability to penetrate everything about trump on january 6. >> mike, is it possible that bernie carrick's cooperation cracked the egg and starting to ease out and rudy giuliani's calculation is they know half i may well avoid a criminal contempt case and those bills? carrick was involved in what rudy giuliani was up to his elbows in. how much do the witnesses that cooperated influence the potential that giuliani feels they know some of the body of work if you will? >> i'm not sure. maybe that leads giuliani to be more candid or a backstop, another story. his story is compared to to be concerned about the accuracy of his testimony. the carrick cooperation and testimony was significant in and of itself and the production of documents. as you were laying out earlier rud

or rudy giuliani, or steve bannon, people speaking at the rallies. we have seen hundreds of people arrested and prosecuted but there is this sense among -- there is a sense that they were people on the ground, who took it too far, who are not listening to the leaders, clearly in the rally. and of course we heard former president trump at this time say, look, you need to go to the capitol and you need to stop the steal, quote unquote. of course that was a lie. but it's interesting, if you go to 2024, and what president trump is going to be selling, is he going to be selling this sort of rally out of hand? he is talking about pardoning people and that is putting him at real odds with some of his loyalists when you take a look at someone like senator graham. saying that that's wrong. sayin that that's wrong. all impacted by -- voting rights fights, right, barbara? the high court's decision to black second -- and alabama has renewed alarms over the future of voting rights, this is the way the ap reported. it is 54 decision, late monday, the supreme court

there is a reason why this lunatic announced her candidacy on steve bannon's podcast and steve bannonn that very podcast, someone that breaks laws and unfit to even oversee the jurisdiction she currently has. this is a dangerous situation and we need to pay attention through the under ballot races. >> i am curious, glenn, very quickly before i talk subpoenas that but it is legal to run for office while you're currently under criminal investigation? i guess that's okay to do? >> there is no prohibition if you're under investigation. the problem here, joy, the big lie is part and parcel of the big crime. the big lie is the election was stolen. the big crime is a conspiracy to commit an offense against the united states by corruptly overturning the election's results because nobody has been held accountable for the big lie, which fueled the big cry. that gives permission to all of the little liars out there to continue to spout the big lie hoping to fool the gullible and win their elections. so telling the lie in isolation is not necessarily criminal but when donald trump and mo brooks a

he was on steve bannon's podcast, who's still being a podcast even though he's under indictment.e was talking about meeting with pence ahead of january 6th. >> i remember my last meeting with mike nuary 6th. it was in the white house. they were there talking not errt about the substantive argument that is we believed would prevail in debate much like peter navarro has laid out on this program and also the substantive arguments we thought would be per ssuasive to state legislatures. to not maintain the fiction of elections that were not run fairly and i knew then he was not going to show a great deal of boldness before the congress. we put forward arguments and affidavits and evidence. we were in the cabinet room meeting with mike pence in the days leading up to january 6th and i left quite disappointed that he was not motivated by our argument. >> you know, congresswoman, it's not just about what occurred on january 6th. it is about what occurred in the run up to january 6th and this pressure campaign that the former vice president was subjected to. doesn't that call for i mean t

former traded by, sir peter navarro, in doing so it says navarro, quote, reportedly worked with steve bannon and others to develop an implement a plan to delay congress's certification of, and ultimately change the outcome of the november 2020 presidential election. in his book, mr. navarro describes this plan as the green bay sweep. in an interview, mr. navarro reportedly added that the former president was on board with the strategy. and, just last month, peter navarro gave our own melfort, specific details on how that sweep was supposed to work. >> we had over 100 congressmen and senators on capitol hill ready to implement the sweep. we were going to challenge the results of the election, in the six battleground states. most, or all of those states would be serve defy the election, that would throw the election to the house of representatives. senator ted cruz and gosar representative started the green bay sweep you to flee. the election was -- we were following the constitution and rules of the senate to simply get a recount of what the votes were. >> the 16 committee wants navarro to pr

bannon laughed he said, no, donald trump wants the next guy following him to lose by 40 points.ation the republican party is in today and why people are assuming there's somehow going to be some type of tidy handoff like desantis or something are really mistaken. >> there's a lot of trump bucks out there, and i wrote one of them but you managed to find new details and new reporting and angles on this story in your new book, "insergentcy." it's really riveting. >>> oklahoma's marijuana boom. how a green rush came to the red state. red red state. versus 16 grams in ensure high protein. boost® high protein also has key nutrients for immune support. boost® high protein. there's a different way to treat hiv. it's once-monthly injectable cabenuva. cabenuva is the only once-a-month, complete hiv treatment for adults who are undetectable. cabenuva helps keep me undetectable. it's two injections, given by a healthcare provider once a month. hiv pills aren't on my mind. i love being able to pick up and go. don't receive cabenuva if you're allergic to its ingredients or taking certain medi

what's the term i'm looking for. >> well, he has -- bannon has been indicted. >> they haven't indictedm in criminal contempt. >> right. and then it goes to the justice department. i think the justice department understands, as jammy raskin has that, they'll blow the lid off the house with this new information. that mean we know a lot, like up, but we'll learn more. until we learn more, it is hard to say what should be appropriate for merrick garland and of course, we don't know what they already know. we have to be careful about throwing stones at this when we have complete information. something i talk about in the book. facts that are verifiable do matter. >> what book is it? the brand new book, how to think like a lawyer and why. great to see you as always. a knew report says everyone in the world will have to learn to live with fire and there's no way around it. that's next. ♪ i've been everywhere, man. ♪ ♪ crossed the desert's bare, man. ♪ ♪ i've breathed the mountain air, man. ♪ ♪ of travel i've had my share, man. ♪ ♪ i've been everywhere. ♪ ♪ i've been to: pittsburgh, parkersbur

along with steve bannon, the guy he was just on the tv there with, and dozens of others. and then there is, of course, rudy giuliani always seems to be behind the wheel of the clown car of crazy. "the washington post" reporting he asked a michigan prosecutor to give voting machines to trump's team and a -- and a -- in a county where the -- were found and corrected. and in the face of all this, all the investigations, all the evidence, all the subpoenas, it seems the one thing that's got republicans at odds is the rnc's censure resolution and those three words. right? these three words will live in infamy. you are going to hear them a lot, a lot, especially during campaign season. you know them. legitimate political discourse. mitch mcconnell, just last night, smacked down the rnc when he called what happened on january 6th a violent insurrection. and then, there is ted cruz. ted cruz, who repeatedly called what happened on january 6th a violent terrorist attack, until he had to grovel before tucker carlson for the cardinal sin of actually telling the truth. now, he says t

unlike steve bannon, who was involved, made have been more removed, and jail time hanging over his head. i think they really want to get -- there's even discussions for some of these high-profile offices, that immunity, congressional immunity could be on the table. so something like that possibly could be offered to get rudy giuliani's testimony. again, this is someone who's involved in the electors plot, in the seizure of the voting machines plot, and the calls to members of congress after the riot, that's already begun. he's with donald trump and nearly every step of the way during this. he will be able to tell the committee just how much was a trump's direction in addition to details like that. >> yeah, we should note -- reporting told the committee that the name of the person, phil waldron who had originated the voting machine seizure scheme, which would have been illegal, because when you sort of rank like most sci-fi level authoritarian, the army seizes the voting machines, gambit is probably up near the top. nicholas, let's talk about eastman who is taking a very different attack

and now of course they're with steve bannon and roger stone in just giving the finger to the committee. so, look, we're not teaching them anything they don't know. we believe that democracy is on the line here. we are being extremely respectful and mindful of due process rights. we're not putting anybody in jail. we're just trying to get everybody's best evidence, as the supreme court has said we have the right to do, in order to deliver a report to the american people and congress about how to prevent coups and insurrections going forward. >> and in your new book, congressman, "unthinkable" you describe the behavior and language being used by the proud boys and other militiamen as they arrived in d.c. ahead of january 6th, what you witnessed on these days. these little omens cropped like bread crumbs throughout the capital city should be alarm. is it more like a fascist loaf of bread? >> well, yes. the good news is i think that everybody who's paying attention is perfectly aware of what's going on. last weekend, donald trump said that mike pence had the power to overturn the election,

in fact the most serious technique we just got word of today, which is steve bannon's attorney, a guy named robert costello, the justice department revealed that they've gone to try to get some of bannon's attorneys calling information and email information. that is a really traumatic step that requires high-level approval of the justice department. the justice department's been clear to say they are not seeking attorney client material, they're seeking information outside of that, but to me that demonstrates the real seriousness of this as a response to whet the former white house officials and others in the trump were trying to do stonewalling the investigation. >> as that investigation continues, amy, we've heard congressman kinzinger's concerns about the new visions in this nation growing into a much more dangerous threat. maybe even civil war. do you think that's more one man's opinion or are the republicans who might agree they just don't want to step out and say so publicly? >> well, i think congressman kinzinger is right. we just heard the former president a week ago in his ra

takes trump indicted ally steve bannon ripping pence followed by chris christie ripping trump. >> pence, you're going to carry this thing eventually to your grave, okay? because it is a mark of shame. you are a stone cold coward, a stone cold coward. >> january 6th was a riot that was incited by donald trump in an effort to intimidate mike pence and the congress into doing exactly what he said in his own words last week, overturn the election. >> republican chris christie saying he did want that coup, that's what overturning the election is called. the "wall street journal" editorial board said pence is demonstrating constitutional principle and trump ended -- meanwhile pence chief of staff who a peered before the committee that is investigating all this is explaining where pence is coming from. >> i think, unfortunately, the president had many bad advisers who were basically snake oil salesmen giving him random and novel ideas as to what the vice president could do. >> did you see legitimate political discourse that day? >> from my front row seat i did not see a lot of legitimate polit

steve bannon, remember he is actually under indictment. but that case is on a slow boat to nowhere. the committee just doesn't have the time or the resources to force recalcitrant witnesses at this point. >> thank you all very much. >>> we have more breaking news tonight. it comes from the inwith theer olympics in beijing when the figure skating team ceremony is on hold and a gold for russia is in jeopardy. cnn sports analyst, christine brennan, one of the premier figure skating reporters on earth broke this story and joins us now. what on earth is going on with these doping allegations? >> reporter: yeah, john, the russians are living up to their reputation or living down it to. the lifetime achievement award that is russian doping and here we are again, as i am reporting, there was a positive drug test among one positive drug test among the six members of the russian olympic figure skating team that won the gold medal a couple of days ago in that team competition dominated the competition. so now everything has been thrown into disarray and chaos. the question, of course, is, if,

this is steve bannon.inistration. >> the third broadly line of work is what is deconstruction of the administrative state and if you -- [ applause ] >> how do you deconstruct administrative state? one way, this is two for my producers, the co -- she was the nation's first insider threat, compromising voting equipment her county. causing that county $1 million. she's working with steve bannon, and actually announced on his program she's under criminal investigation, and was arrested last week, she had when people called for my death at a rally, and she's unfit to be secretary of state. and, joy, if your viewers want to join me in defeating her, and these big lie candidates, they can join me at jennifer colorado.com. >> and do you fear that if she becomes secretary of state, then the next election, she will simply substitute her own desires at the actual outcome of this? >> well, i think my opponent, tina peters, is a danger to colorado elections. she's completely unfit, and what we are seeing in these big l

i suspect it's calculation is the same as bannon and the others.is not in a vacuum he is a creature of the donald trump swab and the 18 other people who refused to testify because they're afraid that they're going to tell the truth. when i was in the government if law enforcement asked you to testify or gone cruised to provide information, of course you did, but i think you are the odds swamp creatures will stick together. it's possible rudy will seriously cooperate because he's afraid of legal bills or conscience or whatever. you'll remember rudy is the guy from january 6th infamously demanding quote, trial by combat. if he is not able to negotiate with congress, you might be facing an ordeal that he's even less prepared for, trial by jury. so the reasons for him to cooperate, but at the end of the day i think that it's just a stalling tactic that maybe something to just get -- trump to pay his legal bills. >> go ahead. >> they might be giving him too much credit, we're talking about the guy who can't tell the difference between a hotel and a land

but in talking to the committee about people like peter navarro, steve bannon, rudy giuliani, dan scavino, they don't expect them to come. but for the record, they are putting out this that they should come. >> and, jeffrey -- >> if i can just make a point about this, i mean, the idea that peter navarro and mark meadows can write books about their their interactions with donald trump, which they disclose freely and for profit and then say oh, by the way, in response to a subpoena, i am not going to answer those questions. i mean, it is just outrageous but it is also a matter of the clock ticking. i mean, this is just not time to have a legal fight with these people. steve bannon -- remember, he -- he is actually under indictment but that case is on a slow boat to nowhere. the committee just doesn't have the time or the resources to fo force recalcitrant witnesses to testify at this point. >> thank you, all, very much. >>> so we have more breaking news tonight. it comes from the winter olympics in beijing where the medal ceremony for the figure skating team event is on hold and a gold for

secure the capitol after the mob had taken over and beaten up cops, john eastman appeared on steve bannon's internet show, bashing pence for his refusal to follow the presidents orders. now more than a year later he's fighting the january six committee's investigation. eastman is trying to keep thousands of pages of emails out of the committee's hands claiming attorney client privilege. eastman has been ordered to review more than 94,000 pages of emails the january six committee subpoenaed from his former employer, chapman university. today eastman said in a court filing that he was refute half of them, turned over about 1000 of the committee, 27,000 were automatically withheld because they were considered boiler plate mass emails, and eastman has attempted to shield the remaining 11,000. prompting the committee to raise new alarms. slow walking or up to skating their efforts. the lawyer representing the committee told the judge that they were quote operating at an urgent pace and finding out lots and lots of information from cooperatives witnesses. he also said professor eastman appears to

it's a cruel trick by people like fox and bannon and trump that these people are so far into this.ay. so, last thing to you, matthew, and it's about essentially former president, has his luck run out. george conley wrote an op-ed for "the washington post" saying, now the man who long has had trouble finding decent legal representation may have a hard time finding tax accountants. we have seen what's taken place over the last few weeks from now being called -- or deposed by the new york a.g., not only the former president but his children as well, and finding out those 15 boxes obtained from mar-a-lago were, in fact, classified information he took from the white house when leaving the presidency. has his luck run out? >> well, i think we've all been in this situation for five or six years when we keep thinking -- trump because he's done x or discovered y, his luck has run out. it doesn't seem to have taken place. listen, me more than anything else, maybe not more than rick, would love to see donald trump and his children in orange jumpsuits. i would love to see it. i have doubts i w

and congress doesn't have that the 16 committee subpoenaed steve bannon. he didn't comply.e held bannon in contempt, and those who bucks subpoenas can drain the clock that blocks congress from scoring the information it demands these things can be fought. and it can be delayed forever. the 16 committee wants to extract testimony from house minority leader kevin mccarthy and republicans jim jordan and scott perry. none or cooperating . i think anyone with common sense would be reluctant to go talk to this committee, it's hard to coax information from an intransigent lawmaker, i can't recall a case where congress has supported one of its own members. the courts could reject a criminal case involving a lawmaker. that's because the constitution says it's up to congress to discipline its members and the constitution shields lawmakers from many on the job prosecutions. penalties doled out by democrats could backfire. later, house speaker nancy pelosi won't dictate how the house handles noncompliant members. i have no intention of interfering with the work of the committee and so

former aide steve bannon is indicted for not cooperating. if giuliani were to give any measure of substantive information, how big a breakthrough would that be, would he be the first of potentially several close trump allies to cooperate? >> let me first say the overwhelming majority of witnesses have cooperated with the january 6th committee. the members and staff have done amazing work on that committee. they've gotten a lot of information, a lot of documents. so most witnesses have cooperated. >> good point. >> there are a few who have not. it's heartening to hear giuliani may very well cooperate. he really has a lot that he could tell the committee. >> let's talk about what happened with former president barack obama whom as you know spoke virtually with house democrats on thursday. democrats are grappling with stalled legislative agendas and trying to navigate through the midterms. punchbowl news said, quote, democrats have a tendency to complain about what we didn't get done rather than talking about what we did get done. how was the f

committee's investigation, but people inside trump's inner circle, people like former aide steve bannon, former white house chief of staff mark meadows, have refused to comply and have been willing to face possible criminal charges for doing so. so it begs the question, why would someone like rudy giuliani, who is extremely close to the former president, be willing to now work with the committee? the times is reporting that some of those reasons could be he may be trying to avoid an expensive legal battle in fighting a subpoena, or it could be that he's trying to skirt contempt charges that he could end up with if he ends up not talking in the end. gop committee member adam kinzinger laid out his expectations of what will happen. >> our expectation is he is going to cooperate because that's the law, that's the requirement. regardless of when we hear from rudy or how long that interview is, we're getting a lot of information. and we're looking forward to wrapping this up at some point, when that is right, showing it to the american people. but not rushing it. >> and kinzinger added in th

they had it for longer than the referral where the select committee asked them to prosecute steve bannonhey believe meadows engagement and lack there of with the committee fits in the same category bannon does. >> i myself am watching to see how much longer it will take for them to take action with mark meadows. thank you so much for being here tonight. you are sticking around to be with us later. >>> next, by design, new voting laws in texas are leading to massive confusion this primary season. alarming number of mail in ballots rejected. why? stick with us for 24/7 coverage of the crisis in ukraine. on air and online. at the top of the hour, hear what a member of the house foreign affairs committee has to say. >> congressman traveled to ukraine last month and will join to discuss what if anything can bring the region back from the brink of war. don't go anywhere. the brinofk war brinofk war don't go anywhere. you try crazy things... ...because you're crazy... ...and you like it. you get bigger... ...badder... ...faster. ♪ you can never have too much of a good thing... and power is a ve

bannon had a room set up at the world hotel and he and flynn were involved, roger stone, the same castt couldn't shoot straight characters were involved in that as were involved in some of the other activities during the trump white house. it's just, they're going to stonewall all they can, claim executive privilege because they want the republicans to win at the end of this committee which might happen. congress can bring information to light, hearings where people are watching in prime time and let the facts be out there to the american public. the mueller report misrepresented by barr in a deceitful process of the american people. we could put that out. the justice department i wish it would act. i have regard for merrick garland. he's a fine gentleman. he's got integrity. i'm not sure if he's got the desire to go forward and get trump. he said he would go wherever the records and the facts lead, and i believe he means that but he's been a judge and a judge is different than a prosecutor and he hasn't done what he needed to protect our democracy. democracy is at risk. if the house i

the panel says that it obtained information that indicates navarro worked with steve bannon and others to delay the certification of joe biden's electoral win. navarro also promoted false claims of voter fraud. >>> dozens of spacex satellites were knocked out of orbit, and lawmakers are taking on corruption. those are some of the headlines on the "morning newsstand." "the new york times" reports a bipartisan push to ban members of congress from trading individual stocks is gaining momentum on capitol hill. senate majority chuck schumer and house speaker nancy pelosi say they will support restrictions. pelosi initially opposed it but with increased pressure from both parties she says she's behind the measure. she also wants existing stock disclosure requirements extended to the judicial branch of government including the supreme court. >>> "the philadelphia enquirer" says a massive water main break flooded several blocks in a neighborhood prompting evacuations. the century-old water main broke yesterday damaging homes and forcing more than a dozen nearby schools to close because there w

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same activists who would run donald trump's campaign and work in his white house including steve bannonossy, went to meet with palin in a clandestine meeting in scottsdale and tried to talk her into running for president against mitt romney. they told her she could probably win the republican nomination against romney because as one of them put it, she was the only rock star in a field of candidates that were like bad cover bands. the problem was that she didn't want to do it. she was worried about spending time away from her family and you know, the 2008 campaign with john mccain took a real toll on her and her family. it exhausted her and what i was left where from the conversations with the people i spoke to for this book was that when they, when she came time for her to ask questions during this presentation, she kept going back to how much time would i have to spend away from alaska. so i just don't think her heart was in it. >> joyce, on the twin developments of, and even before the judge threw out the case and the jury decided against her, there were moments that bordered on come

announcement is that it has, which is all about priority conservation for this extraordinary marsupial, nika bannon is the head of campaigns of the humane society international australia . she says, the move has to be accompanied by stronger regulatory protections for quarles. part of the reason is because the decline has been so steep and so sudden and the caller was recognized as vulnerable to extinction in 2012 and in just a short space of time. since then, we've had really steep declines in the species numbers on the east coast of australia. so now it's been listed as endangered, recognizing that sadly, it's even closer to extinction. the listing today is really important to give the species that legal recognition. but what needs to follow is really strong regulatory protection of the corolla, and the government has recently committed more money. we have the legal status is endangered. now, they're really good parts of the equation, but what's missing is the stronger regulatory protection. so while is need stronger laws and they need regulations that prevent the clearing of habitat, which is th