by the way, where is joe biden? he emerged from his basement bunker, and will he answer questions about any of these important issues in these tough times we are all going through? and why didn't barack and joe ever stop the violence in the city of chicago, barack's hometown, for over eight years? we will have more on that in a moment. first, joining us with a full report from the horrific violence in chicago alone is mike tobin. >> you mentioned it, 18 people killed over the weekend and two of them were children. one you could say a baby. just 20 months old, he was strapped into a car seat and his mother's vehicle. there was a gun battle down the street with two other vehicles and the mother and the baby were hit by stray rounds, never stood a chance, that bullet went right through his chest. one chicago police officer who handled this case posted on social media that he never handled anything this difficult in all of his time on the chicago pd. also, 10-year-old leah nunes in the second-floor apartment came right

joe biden thinks not.s not support defunding the police to then use the other day. he has come forward with a series of reforms but nothing as radical as you suggest. i'm not suggesting we defund and eliminate the police. or police presence in the country and many people who are 90 defund the police, that's not my phrase, that is some others have used, i prefer the phrase reimagining the police, look, we are at the point where it is no longer enough to simply say we need some reforms or is it is terrible, what a tragedy, all we have to address the issue of systemic racism and then we never do. the issue right now for people in the country is as follows, we can either do what we have done in the past and express our outrage and then move on, all we can do something a little bit different here and that is not only express outrage but the man that real reforms be put into place —— but demand that real reforms be put in place so we don't see more killings like that of george floyd. that is the choice. i want,

i mean we will do much better withjoe biden.te frankly, i think our image around the world will improve with biden in the white house. well, five months to go until november so at the moment we must wait and see. i thank you very much indeed forjoining me on hardtalk. my pleasure, great to be with you. hello there. thursday turned out to be a particularly soggy day across england and wales with an area of persistent rain. the radar picture on thursday shows just how wet it was across england and wales. the heaviest rain really working into southern wales. we picked up 50 mm of rain for the day. down on the south coast, take a look at this weather watch picture. this is in fact a waterspout. you can see some spray being whipped up from the sea there. we had all kinds of weather on thursday, and that same area of low pressure remains with us over the next two hours. more rain to come. wales and southwest england. some rain for a time in northern england and southern scotland as well. as we headed into friday, oui’ low—pressure is

with the november election fast approaching the president focused on attacking joe biden. >> joe bidenrendered to his party and to the left-wing mob. he has no control. mark: saturday's rally may be a preview of what lies ahead later on this summer. the trump campaign insists more rallies are in the works even as the number of states are dealing with increase in coronavirus cases. chris. chris: mark meredith reporting from tulsa, mark, thank you. joining us from baltimore, dr. tom inglesby, director of the center for health security at johnson hopkins university. doctor, i know you watched the rally last night from a public standpoint if not a political one, the good news is there wasn't a big crowd as expected, but as an epidemiologist watching the rally last night, what did you see? doctor: yeah, i thought that the rally was concerning in terms of public health risk. cdc's recent guidance was that the highest risk gatherings are those that are large indoors where people can't stay apart from each other more than 6 feet and where people travel from out of town and this rally met all o

a lead is a lead, but is the lack of enthusiasm for biden, even among biden supporters, what you mightnthusiasm gap, is that a potential problem? >> symone: is not. we heard this a lot throughout the primary about an enthusiasm gap, who couldn't who could not turn out voters and what we saw in the primaries is that vice president biden in contest after contest handily won but also turned out voters, it was up in north carolina, and the georgia primaries that just happened, more than 1.1 milln ee are very confident in our strategy, chris. we think our voters are excited but also think these numbers spell trouble for president trump. we think this is a referendum on his lack of leadership and how his actions have directly affected the american people. >> chris: we are going to have to leave it there, thank you, thanks for joining us, these come back. >> symone: thank you. >> chris: up next we will turn to the trump campaign and discuss the strategy behind the president's return to the campaign trail. ♪ my name is christine payne, i'm an associate here at amazon. come on christian, step o

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joe biden not even this version, buddy joe biden in his '80s.will give people pause. bottom line is, he hasn't had any tough interviews it seems to this point in terms of asking him, okay, you were vice president for eight years, why didn't you pass anything resembling prison reform as this president has? or are now talking about police reform come again eight years and some time where there is a democratic congress, democratic senate and still none of these things got past. what is joe biden running on? what is the positive message? that is what you have to run on shining city on the hill, make america great, what is the joe biden bumper sticker? i have zero idea what that is, jason. >> jason: i think that is true. gleason will make lisa, is it st joe biden's expectations are sow that anything he can do to show up and put coherent sentences together will be a victory for him? is that part of the game? will the media give him a pass because he didn't have some sort of big blunder? >> well, i don't even think joe biden is capable of that, to be p

six in january, the same poll biden was not in a good position in january.e has since nailed down the nomination. firstch, we had our coronavirus case, and he won the primary handily. is a big number. why think it will be 12 on election day? i would be shocked. 12, given what we are seeing in other polls nationally, that they are showing biden up in arizona and north carolina and ohio thattates like are far more republican leaning than michigan. host: you cover a lot of trade issues for the "the detroit free press." who has the upper hand on that topic? todd: that will remain to be seen because president trump has made such an issue of trade in and naftalection, meant a lot in michigan where autoworkers rightly or wrongly a town of jobs to mexico, and they never brought them back. that is what really caused the auto industry jobs for years, which is evident on both sides of that. has supported ,rade deals under barack obama had a particular kind of demeanor and rapport with working-class voters who do not see him as quite such a globalist as maybe other demo

where the heck is joe biden? why haven't they come out to condemn this violence against a member of their own party? why haven't they demanded swift action to protect taxpayer property on public land. why aren't reporters demanding that biden answer specific questions about what's happening? vice president biden, do you support renaming the district of columbia since after all the protesters say, well, it was named after christopher columbus. what aboutut washingon state? which after all is named after that slaveholder george washington. mr. vice president, is the jefferson memorial even worth preserving? when people try to createe autonomous zones, what should be done about that?ou what would you do about that? after all, we know loud and clear at this point what president trump believes about all these issues. >> i think many of the people knocking down these statues don't even have any idea what the statue is and what it means now they are looking at jesus christ, looking at george washington, looking at abrah

joe biden is not the leader of his party. joe biden is a helpless puppet of the radical left.tate wrong. he is an iowa. he says it's good to be in idaho. joe biden will always let you down. >> biden will tell you if he was sitting right here that he can't wait to see donald trump on the debate stage and he can't wait to campaign with him. >> bret: welcome back. the real clear politics average, since we have time, polls, between the two, joe biden leading. by about 9.5. if you look at the battleground states, again, favoring biden and some of the states and some of these polls. they have been fluctuating. but this is the past few weeks. back with the panel, tom, when you look at the race right now, we have the news that the biden campaign wants to debate. joe biden wants to debate president trump three times, traditional major debates, one presidential debate. >> right. this was clearly a tactic on the part of the trump campaign to try to cast joe biden in a negative light that he is not up to the task. three debates, it's the standard thing. it wasn't so long ago that donald t

enthusiasm for candidate 31 percent of biden supporters . are excited about him 63 percent trump supporters are excited about him what has to happen is trump has to demonize joe biden make him scarier he's got to bring up the negative ad is that out of the negatives on biden and this this game plan we will see it played out i thought it was really interesting you know this thing about biden's brain being fried and we've heard that it's just part of a talking point right now to handle that did you see the ad where they have biden and obama running them away like we're healthy there's no problem there and then we have trump looking just decrepid walking down the ramp so that is the that's that's part of the that's the beginning that is how about the burning of the united states that the united states is going to look like chavez up in seattle if these guys when the numbers tell us anything fear is definitely fear that also really affects those voters $65.00 plus those voters are so important because they show up at the polls and they have fore

she has been mentioned as a possible vice presidential candidate for biden. she has not said she is not interested. the protest movement in michigan which has been pro-trump, has taken up some of those flames as well. that seems to be to the democrats' benefits because polls show governor whitmer's actions are seen as correct, things that are helping the situation. you have also had regarding the death of george floyd and black lives matter movement, we have seen a great deal of protests in detroit, and other areas. it has been tempestuous to say the least over the last couple of months. so far, that is accruing politically to the democrats' benefit. michigan being a state that is bluer in statewide elections than wisconsin and pennsylvania seems to be reverting back. there is plenty of time for the president to go back to michigan and make some changes to bring that down, but right now it seems it is a tough road for him. host: we saw the poll on the "the detroit free press," did that number surprise you? todd: any 12 point lead would shock me. six in januar

biden has given nothing. telling black voters they are not black if they don't support him, which is insane. >> juan: katie, let's pick up on that thought. you heard simone sanders saying he is doing press, but it is mostly -- i'm not sure that's a solid point of criticism. >> katie: local press is a good thing. the reason why hillary clinton lost is because a, donald trump was a better candidate, but be, she just refused to show up. you have to be able to go to places, get on the ground and convince people why it is worth their effort to go out and vote for you. she says what, i warned in 2016 that trump was going to win michigan. i keep warning that the same thing is happening. my constituents are voting for him. that should be a red flag for people like joe biden. >> juan: all right, so jesse, i noticed today, i was reading that the president's campaign, they have a huge financial advantage on biden. they spent more than 20 million since march and yet they couldn't fill the arena. why do you think that in

will improve with biden in the white house.ng me on hardtalk. my pleasure, great to be with you. hello there. well, thursday turned out to be a particularly soggy day across england and wales, with an area of persistent rain. the radar picture on thursday shows just how wet it was across england and wales. the heaviest rain really working into southern wales, where we picked up 50 millimetres of rain through the day in st athan, and down on the south coast. take a look at this weather watcher picture. this is in fact a waterspout. you can see a little bit of sprayjust being whipped up off the sea there. so we had all kinds of weather around on thursday, and that same area of low pressure remains with us over the next few hours. so, we have got more rain to come — wales, south—west england. the rain moving back into central, southern england, the south—west midlands. wet weather moves across northern ireland, and there will be some rain for a time in northern england and southern scotland as well. so, "rain at times" probably be

5 points trump biden or tied and arizona clinton down for biden 5 and a half of note here president trump was announced where he's going to be going for these rallies once the he gets the clear you'll notice he's going to arizona georgia all of these states that are crucial battleground places for him to win ok so. as you look at some of these one trend i'm saying is that biden still has problems with sanders supporters what is your take on it is like i said earlier there is no passion for joe biden there is no biden bump so it is all about it is all about trump an interesting poll was taken in never sanders voters it's a usa today suffolk county poll 20 percent of sanders voters flat out stated they're not going to back. biden they're either going to vote for trump or they're going to sit this one out now what's interesting in that and 201615 percent of sanders voters did not support hillary clinton and look at how close that race was while president clearly has an uphill climb it's it's going to get closer and how close and how important sander and let me let me ask you about that

we're kind of getting the most recent polls we have seen from our poster shows a 12-point lead for biden. that's coming in the wake of the pandemic and really there is a hotspot in michigan for a while. a lot of partisan feelings. but also the military going to come into deal with civilian protests, some of the tweets and what president trump has done, fighting with governor witmer who is pretty well-liked in michigan. and so, at this.things look pretty bad for him. that doesn't mean he couldn't make it back up. by comparing michigan with wisconsin in pennsylvania, which two states he won closely in 2016, michigan is looking better for biden than it is for the president. >> let's go back to 2016. those erased many people thought michigan was the blue wall for clinton. donald trump winning up by 11000 votes. why did he win michigan and what was the lesson for democrats this year? >> so, all the work that i have done post 2016 looking and a lot, the things that really jump out at me i that for soft neither hillary clinton or president trump were well-liked. michigan was seen as a state as

all joe biden was doing was given that democratic policy 101. all i'm asking is that joe biden came out of the basement and talked without a teleprompter to the black community. in the boat. in the vote, joe. >> i believe a lot of people, there is always talk, talk. and every two or four years, and i find it raises, and throw granny over a cliff. i asked the other night, opportunity zones, and if you look at the lowest record, record after record after record from minorities, and that was not barack and it wasn't joe. >> let me simply say the music, donald trump did the first step act, and even obama didn't do that. the man does not give any credit to what he does. he discovered a cure for cancer and would be sued for putting a bunch of doctors out out of work. i'm asking every black voter and every democrat, and ignore the old talking points. if you just ignore the al sharpton talking points, because we are democrats, forget those talking points. makes them tell you what they are going to do with you now, not 40 years ago. switch parties, soone

the biden campaign. he's going to profit in september. in september we have a primary race for governor, which is, of course, statewide and again, that's unusual in new hampshire. in the democratic party, the leadership of the party tends to anoint their candidates for office. we don't have really aggressive, active primaries on the democratic side. this will help the biden x n campaign really as an exercise get out there and test their right to vote-- get out the vote efforts and hopefully be well tuned up in time for november. >> we're going to come back here, but let's look ahead four years from now. as you know, the debate continues why new hampshire is first in the nation. we saw what happened in iowa. a lot of questions whether or not the iowa caucuses will even be around in 2024. so looking ahead four years from now, where will new hampshire be in the political process? >> it's a very good question and i think fortunately, we didn't have the problems that iowa had. the election was well-held. the

ask that question, nine point edge for biden.ee of these, significant advantage for biden over donald trump. in terms of key groups where you have seen movement, what the poll is saying, white voters, trump leads biden by six. in 2016 in the exit poll, trump won by 20. so to go from 20 to 6 among white voters, that's a significant drop for trump. african americans similar to what we saw in 2016. a bit of an increase for trump, a bit among hispanic voters. again offset by losses in the poll among white voters. then there's this. is there hope for donald trump in this poll? what could you point to in a poll that looks this bad to be optimistic about. if you're trump, cutting the unemployment rate, we asked voters, who is better. trump actually with a 13 point advantage. dealing with the economy, trump with an 11 point advantage. and dealing with china, slight, three points. these are the only three questions. we asked a bunch of them. these are the only three in the poll trump had an advantage over biden. clearly if trump is down s

joe biden is mysteriously silent. i guess he is stuck in his basement right now because they are afraid to let him out and answer this tough question. frankly it is not a tough question. it is a very straightforward question. are you for or against defunding police? joe biden and nancy pelosi are literally dodging this question. when you want to run for president of the united states you can't hide from tough , issues. joe biden has to be vocal and it has to happen soon. he can't let this go on for days and days. rep. scalise: you mentioned -- mercedes: you mentioned about that fateful day in june 2017 when you nearly lost your life at the republican baseball practice. i have to tell you, we were all just so sad to hear you had been shot. we were all praying for your quick recovery. it was really the u.s. capitol police, including your special agents, crystal and corey, that saved your life. it just shows how important american law enforcement is in keeping our country safe. show our viewers -- it was a dreadful day -

biden's vp pick -- >> and i think joe biden knows that.as 8 years experience as vice president. he knows the good working relationship he had with president obama, so he's not going to fit someone that doesn't fit the category. the 5 or 6 candidates who have been talked about in my judgment all fit the category. you will say some don't have experience in foreign affairs or the military, well, it's not just experience because you can get experience and there are experts and generals and former secretary of defenses, the question is you have good judgment, are you smart and support the president's positions and i think the answer to that is, yes, all the people who are being looked at and the next question is who can help politically and nobody is actually sure, if anybody is president, the possibility of lyndon johnson with jfk made a difference in state. arthel: so then that said, governor, let's look at some of the i'd say top contenders and get your analysis. i will say her name and you list strength and weakness as a candidate. let's st

biden is showing a double didn't lead nationally, biden with the 53% in the poll to trump's 41% in a-way match up. for more, i'm joined by susan paige, cornell belcher, and rich lowrie, editor at national review. thank you for being with us. susan, let me start with you, we mention it's the first time in months that biden has done something like this. probably given everyone flashbacks to the days before the coronavirus pandemic set in. what is it going to look like from this point forward from the biden campaign standpoint? are there going to be more of these? is he stepping up his schedule? or are they looking at the last few months and saying, this worked out pretty well, no need to be that much much more visible? >> it's remarkable how well biden has done since staying out-of-sight. but i think they are going to pick things up, in whatever form the convention will take. he has been doing interviews, and it's the first news conference in three months. i'm certain he will be doing more of those. and of course, those debates. he has to get warmed up up for the debates that this fall

i want to talk to you about biden.uestion: do you believe that he has the strength, stamina, the mental acuity, the alertness, to be taking on what is the toughest job in the world, being president of united states, do you and your heart believe he does? >> 100%, absolutely, no question about it. >> sean: okay. >> donald trump doesn't want to run a country come he wants to run a campaign, joe biden wants to run a country. >> sean: that's a ntbumper sticker. you told me how you feel about trump and what you like and dislike, you are honest and said he did a lot of good things too. is my next question. joe biden has been on the political scene for 50 years. after ferguson, baltimore, cambridge, other incidents, he didn't do police refunds, donald trump did that. he was talking about predators in '94, donald trump is the one whoey did prison reform. donald trump did opportunity zones, not joe or barack. donald trump gave us record low after record lowr unemployment for every minority group in the country, not joe and not

is hiding joe biden can't be seen in public because when he is he says stupid things and that's true he does but so does trump but that's why trump spent so much time at that rally talking about why he had to have help down that ramp because he's trying to say i am perfectly fine and mentally and physically fit joe biden is not that to me is the big message and rove knows he's got to get a handle on that because he had to handle george bush my god wasn't there at all he brought joe or george bush from an abysmal position so all these dems that think it's over right all these dems like call you know like what's his. when we're at war i can even think guy's name looks like a loser marvel car yeah you know it's over that is so dangerous that it's just so dangerous so as we go forward on this here's the here's the here's the difference. you've always had something i go with my gut i know what to say i go with my gut call rovers say and i'll be damned if you're going to go with your gut you're going to go to the play book and you going to stick by the play book you've got to see some disc

of course biden was not any a good position in january. he has since nailed down the nomination. the same day we had our first coronavirus case was the primary and he won pretty handily over bernie sanders. 12 is a big number. do i think it will be 12 on election day? i would be shocked. where we are seeing other polls nationally, given that polls are showing biden up in areas in north carolina and florida, states that are far more republican leaning than michigan. cover a lot of trade issues for the detroit free press. who has the upper hand on that topic? >> that will remain to be seen because president trump has made such an issue of trade in the last election. the rewrite of nafta means a lot in michigan where autoworkers naftaularly feel that sent a lot of jobs to mexico and they never got them back. that is what really cost the auto industry. there is evidence on both sides of that. biden, even though he has supported trade deals as vice president under barack obama, has a particular kind of report with working-class voters who do not see him as such a globalist as other de

news wall street journal poll that showed biden's advantage 4942 up some but biden has led this race for a good long while but what's interesting is the he really has done it from his base but it's had little to do with what biden has done right and you ticked off the list of what this years what 2020 has been like for trump it's just been 11 struggle one challenge a pandemic a disaster right after the other and it is certainly reflected in the polls president trump has an incredible uphill climb for the yeah well let's talk about hillary clinton went back and look to the polls i'm interested know where. was she at this time against trump so normally nationally clinton had a one point lead over trump nationally at this point in 2016 university of virginia center for politics showed a comparison of clinton in 2016 versus biden today and this is how it looks at 1st a look at these national polls are just meaningless what matters is the battleground states how they're doing in the battleground states because you've got to cobble together this electoral college votes that's really what m

this is one of the joe biden-john kerry ideas. the iran nuclear deal was drawn by president trump, thank god. they took the money and they still have the capability to make a bomb. it was joe biden's idea to get out of iraq when the general said, no, we need some troops here to keep it from going bad. it was joe biden who pushed obama to pull out of iraq. it was joe biden who sent the troops to afghanistan and gave the day you were going to withdraw. so let's look at donald trump. donald trump rebuilt a military that had been broken. we were short of ammunition, morale was low. they had their hands behind their back when it came to fighting isis and the taliban and syria and afghanistan and iraq. president trump comes in, he increases military spending like ronald reagan. he replenished all the weapon systems that had been depleted. the planes were being flown, the wings were falling off. people were going back and forth, back and forth, he increased the size of the military, he rejuvenated the military. he told the guys to go kil

this was joe biden saying, mr. president, you may try to tweet about things and distract and program conversation elsewhere, but i, joe biden, i'm going to make this campaign about this huge pandemic the country is facing and right now is getting worse, and i'm blaming your leadership, and he's putting forth himself as the alternative. >> there he was a couple of times holding up his mask, that we know the president, despite all of the guidelines, refuses to wear a mask. the behavior between these two men as far as covid is concerned could not be more different. >> that's right, brooke. what we are seeing right now are two presidential candidates visually campaigning so differently, and we saw that perfectly today with biden. you know, we've not seen him out on the campaign trail in person every single day, in large part because of covid, but in the recent events that we have attended, we have seen both biden, the candidate, and biden's campaign and his aides really making a point to try to demonstrate that they ar

joe biden makes gaffes, what about donald trump? joe biden is a tool of the left?ericans don't buy it. that strategy has inherent limits that we've seen, and i don't see any reason to think that's going to change going forward. >> republicans tried that against barack obama in 2008 and it failed miserably. certainly, joe biden is a pawn of the left will fail miserably. he lost early states it wasn't until black voters in south carolina and the deep south moderating the ideological makeup of the democratic party that's when joe biden's campaign started to take off. as far as the suggestion that joe biden is too old or out of it, every time they say that, you have donald trump giving his critics, you know, video clips, you know, him at war with a ramp. him having trouble drinking a class of water. him stumbling over words, appearing to be completely out of it. so that's, again, campaigns are about contrast. that's the biggest problem, they can't find that contrast with joe biden that works. china, china a miserable contrast. it always has been because donald trump ha

biden: i guarantee you it is. a trillion, but you have now significant portion going to the wrong people. because either you don't have the capacity to know how to apply for it or you have the capacity. i will end with this. started whenings i this program first passed, the first cares act. i said what i would propose a president do is i would have him use the defense production act the thing that allows him to designate an operation. shift to making gowns for people in operating rooms. overseas,have someone the large banks where they are going to lend. they never lend to small businesses. i'm not going to mention any of the businesses right now. their loan is guaranteed. they are guaranteed. they are guaranteed. they are supposed to be the conduit. do you have an account? do you have a credit card with us? how long have you been doing business with us, etc. they don't like lending to small businesses. it is tedious for them. they would much rather have somebody come in, a major real estate developer and lend them

is making fun of biden a mistake yes i think making fun of biden is a mistake because he is not secretary clinton and so he can't lay a knockout punch on joe biden because vice president biden is not as polarizing as secretary clinton moreover the vice president biden he's never taken the bait 19 politicians larry took the bait sleepy this liar that you know low energy this all those politicians took the bait from president trump but joe biden just keeps humming along you know and i know it really bothers president trump that he's getting thumped like this joe being in his basement larry or vice president biden being in the basement and him being the president and getting crushed in the polls i know it's driving him crazy is don't trump a racist. well yes he's a racist because his actions are quite rich racists you know he does crazy things he's talking about a lot omar and she's going to govern the country like somalia he said last summer go back to the countries you're originally came from those are racist strokes but you just mentioned is that any empathy it's oh that's classic of a na

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i would expect trump to bash biden over the head with trade, and do it repeatedly. that would accrue to his benefit if the other stuff that is not hislearly doesn't accrue to benefit, which is the bellicose tweets and attacks, and maybe stepping a little too far, that is the balance here. the president might have a winning argument with biden on trade in a state like michigan, all things being equal, but not all things are equal. the president is largely seen as a divider. his job approval numbers in michigan and elsewhere are not good. women do not like the president. he is running really at a deficit with women, something like 60% women are for biden at this moment. and it goes up -- independent women, that number is in the 70's. so trade is an incredibly important issue in a state like michigan, and will be in this election. but there are other things dragging the president down that are frankly fully within his ability to change that i do not see him changing. steve: let's talk about the demographics in michigan. if the peninsula area and grand rapids tend to le

g >> laura: biden equals chaos, it will not be quelled if biden wins. mollie in victor, thank you so much for the mostly peaceful protests in lafayette square, nbut they aren't just assaultig police officers, they are also assaulting my next guest. shelby callicott, media reporter at "the daily caller." first i want to show the audience what happened to you last night. watch. >> i think she's serious. i think i she will sleep [bleep] you up. get the [bleep] out. get the [bleep] out. >> laura: they have a code apparently. there has been no action here fore weeks. why did it explode last night out of the blue? i'm not quite sure. i guess likely because they were trying to tear down the statue in front of the white house shortly before this happened. police came and pushed them back. they were also trying to develop an autonomous zone which didn't work very well, so tensions were high as the night went on. there were a bunch of protesters in shields at the front of the line as you see in the video. i went to film that and they clearly didn't want to be fil

and i think the answer why they were doing business with burisma was that hunter biden and joe bidenluated with the company. affiliated. lou: you know, i think there may be another reason, john. it occurs to me that the obama administration didn't have an inspector general over the state department for, how long was it? four years? five years? >> three and a half years. lou: [inaudible] there wasn't a single complaint. and yet so much happened at the tate -- the state department about which we are just now learning. this is stunning stuff. where does this lead? >> well, listen, one of the big things, you just had it in your last segment with jim jordan, goa joe widen's stories just keep evolving -- joe biden's stories just keep evolving. he's suggesting the logan act and talking to with the fbi. same thing about burisma, you find out, well, he did know. i did talk to my son, his son i did talk to me. we didn't do anything at the obama administration to help them, and now you find out they got a contract, a deal within the obama administration program. joe biden's story keeps evolving

if it was trump against the biden, the thing that the actual ratio of support in favor of joe biden mightin to go down. that is why joe biden is keen to put his policies out there, to say that he is saying important things about the black lives matter protest. important things about how he would deal with the coronavirus outbreak. all of those things are having trouble getting through to the american public. but, joe biden is leading all of the opinion polls. if the election were all tomorrow, it would be joe biden who wouould funnel trump. instructionsown are being -- restrictions are being reimposed in europe. back in thewass capital, lisbon. in that area, some places have a ban on gatherings of more than 10 peoeople. others allow up to 20. austria has issued a warning against travel to the western german state. this after two districts for putback under lockdown. monte reports. >> this neighborhoodod in westen germany is under a new mandatory lockdown. health officials taking every precaution, handing out disinfecting wipes and testing residence for the virus. districts in western germ

biden and -- from the biden and trump campaigns and third-party organizations.resident is now en route back to washington after his rally. our phone lines are open, (202) 748-8000 the line for democrats, (202) 748-8001 for republicans, and for independent voters, (202) 748-8002. joining us is the chair of the michigan democratic party who served as press secretary to the virginia democratic party and the bill clinton campaign of 1992 and state democratic director for barack obama in 2012. give us a sense of michigan and why it is again a battles -- a battleground state. >> the road to the white house runs through michigan. the world, i think was shocked we didn't win michigan, and we have vowed since make a difference and do a different program. program here a that is about turning out votes all over the state and making sure we turn the state louvered joe biden and democrats up and will win foret we joe biden and that will be the beginning of the wave of getting joe biden elected in november. it is important to think about us as a collective of states along wit

president you know i think that the democratic nominee or soon to be joe biden. mayer's always great seeing you thanks so much. you know it's always great to see you i can tell you that every time i do i think you know i want to be like you when i grow up i really do know you're great at what you do. and you're somebody you have a great deal of respect for so thank you and by me back to you we thank former mayor of los angeles antonio via girls will have more public picking after this break. in 2008 there was the global financial crisis and the solution was not to reform the banking system to stop the crisis from repeating again the solution was here's a bigger credit line to the worst banks in america to do the same thing but much worse and we said we predicted within 10 to 12 years there would be a repeat of the 2008 crisis but much bigger a much bigger scale something backley what's happening now. seems wrong. just don't. let me. get to stamp out the attic. and indeed from an equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for comm

biden down t.hey donnk they canring up trump's number all that much. robert: dan, you study these polls. any time the post has a story about a poll and usually on the front page writing about it. what ahe you learning you study these latest numbers when you see him hing soft support, with evangelicals and white voters? >> bob, i think -- you know, as we know, you can't predict the outcome of this election at this smoment. but if you look at these polls, the president is in a terrible position. i talked to t strategists over the last couple of days about these polls. one aic repu, and one a democrat. and both of them used the same expression, unprompted, which is trump fatigue. id one of them o me if you look at these poll numbers, his ballot number the number of -- the percentage of people who him is actually below his for approval rating. and i said, well, you would gsume in normal times the president willt at least his approval rating in terms of the vote in november. and this person said i am no