but you mentioned bill barr. to me, he's a fascinating example of the argument that while donald trump broke with many people and many officials ultimately ended up breaking with donald trump, it's always a complicated story. bill barr got the job as trump's second attorney general after trump fire jeff sessions, in part because he wrote a memo saying the mueller investigation was not a legitimate use of the special counsel power and it was an overage. of course, that was exactly what donald trump wanted to hear and trump thought by appointing bill barr as attorney general, he would help him either fire mueller or contain the damage from the mueller investigation and many people believed that was exactly what bill barr did in the spring of 2008 -- sorry, spring of 2019 when the mueller report finally came out. bill barr's mischaracterization of the findings helped shape the public perception and donald trump, when he said there was no collusion, there is no collision, that barr was a key facilitator of cementing

but you mentioned bill barr. to me, he's a fascinating example of the argument that while donald trump broke with many people and many officials ultimately ended up breaking with donald trump, it's always a complicated story. bill barr got the job as trump's second attorney general after trump fire jeff sessions, in part because he wrote a memo saying the mueller investigation was not a legitimate use of the special counsel power and it was an overage. of course, that was exactly what donald trump wanted to hear and trump thought by appointing bill barr as attorney general, he would help him either fire mueller or contain the damage from the mueller investigation and many people believed that was exactly what bill barr did in the spring of 2008 -- sorry, spring of 2019 when the mueller report finally came out. bill barr's mischaracterization of the findings helped shape the public perception and donald trump, when he said there was no collusion, there is no collision, that barr was a key facilitator of cementing

bill barr, the attorney general, during much of the trump administration. what did they say?ell, one thing that really jumped off the page that was very interesting, was a revelation that in december 2020, after bill barr publicly refuted trump's claims of a rigged election, heed a the guts to go out and say it wasn't rigged, the trump white house sprang into action, and drafted a press release that would have attacked bill barr. i'll read to you what the transcript revealed. quote, anybody that thinks there wasn't massive fraud in the 2020 election should be fired. that's drawing a very harsh line. they did not release that press release. however, the committee was able to obtain it from the national archives. it goes to show you, all the little tidbits, still trickling out, even though the investigation is over. paula? >> marshall, the committee has recommended that trump be barred from ever holding office again. and one of the big other recommendations is to change election law. that's about to happen soon. what can you tell us? >> you know, this is so important. the commi

my concern about bill barr is the to which he quite quiet.ut the biden matter yet expressive about the trump matter, not lost on anyone, just strange to me, and i'm m trying to figure it out. i guess i can't, when we here is m question to you, the threats now, this are made to witnesses, anyone that shows up on tv, this network, should people delve into theiden biden crime family, and follow the evidence where evidence leads, what about that, that seems like obstruction to me. we'll be right back. but there is one van equipped to handle them all. for over 120 years, mercedes-benz vans have been built, upfitted and ready to go. because we believe dreams - should never stay that way. - [narrator] you may have heard that the american legion helps honor our fallen heroes. - [narrator] or that the american legion helped write the gi bill, enabling veterans to get a college education. - and, yeah, you've heard us tell a good story or two. - but did you know that the american legion does so much more for our veterans? - [narrator] from advocacy on c

bill barr announced those charges during the trump administration.nd garland saw the charges through. in a fraught political environment it began in the trump administration and finished in the biden administration. the man will appear in court this afternoon. dana and bill. >> dana: justice will be done even if it's slow to get there. we'll have a lot more on this with the brother of one of those killed in the flight 103 bombing. burt ammerman will join us. >> bill: 12 minutes past the hour. a surge of migrants over the weekend crossing the border yet again. the white house seeking billions in additional border funding. >> dana: a dangerous storm outwest. how the system is impacting travel today. >> bill: the quadruple murder investigation in idaho taking another turn over the weekend. the evidence that might hold the key. >> when you have a quadruple homicide and one person is more brutalized than other, it leans more toward it being a personal more toward it being a personal attack. t o help you remember that liberty mutual customizes your home in

i was saying bill barr is in good standing with the party. i just have to stop you. >> i'm not carrying one -- >> i will let you finish, david, but when you raise something not true on this program it will be dealt with in realtime. i said bill barr was a republican lawyer in good standing. >> and you pointed to me when you said that. that's all that i meant. you pointed to me when you said that. that's all that i meant. i didn't say that you called me a republican lawyer. >> okay. go ahead. >> go back and look at the tape and you can see it. >> so what's your point? >> yeah. the point is you draw all of these things together as if the premises were all settled. i don't accept the premises. as far as the committee goes, the problem here is, as i said in process, many people believe it was a sham. >> understood and you said so. >> because these events were wrong. okay. and so now i also firmly believe that the criminalization of this process serves no purpose. it is not appropriate. and can they -- the idea that both branches are working toget

and other people, like bill barr, are saying there's nothing there.e not even going to bother investigating it. and had bill pwrar said said, you know what, i'm going to show you sidney powell is completely full of it, i'm going to send out fbi agents and show you that that would have resolved the issue. some people are saying it is true. some are saying it's not true. nobody is doing a comprehensive investigation to show what really happened, it's that fail area and that refusal to actually go forward and conclusively prove it one way or the other. that's where the ambiguity comes in and where the questions come in. >> i will note that the attorney general, former attorney general bill barr doesn't pwhbelieve tr had any interest into what the actual facts are. have you had any interaction with the special counsel? >> directly? no, not yet. >> when you let your client sit down with investigators for an interview if you believe he has -- that there is another side of this, there is a story to tell. >> well, that's something you have to look at an indiv

. >> i wrote about this in a book that he wrote, bill barr, the former attorney general said the trump in the spring of 2020 when he was trying to coach them on being a more normal candidate and he said that people are tired of the drama, and i think there is something to that, even his supporters are part of the drama, it doesn't mean that they won't be with him again, they probably will as long as he has this hold on roughly 30% of the republican party, he's in pretty good shape, even the polling that shows that there is erosion, he is definitely decelerating but he has that core group and you can't write him off. >> in the gop has not made outreach to other kinds of voters, they decided against the big tent and one in on trump, and condensed the base over the past six years, so that it is the most sort of purely trump kind of voter, so they might have a lot of trump support, but probably not enough to win another national election. >> of course maggie got the scoop, i wrote a book about bill barr and i did get anywhere near that scoop but this is scary, this is more than just bad tw

by you, bill barr, after you redacted the mueller report. well, you can't redact my feelings!cheers and applause ) what time have we got here? it's mueller time. mueller time. this news does make it seem like there's an indictment around the corner. and the former president had kind of a weird reaction, saying, "i am not going to partake in it. i'm not going to partake in this." oh! he doesn't want to partake. you know what? i'm no lawyer, but i didn't realize that was one of the options. the suspect does not want to partake in the investigation. "your honor, while admittedly the prosecution does have overwhelming evidence of his guilt, my client pleads 'not feelin' it.'" ( laughter ) now, the former president did get some good news this weekend, because on saturday, elon musk reinstated his twitter account. ( audience booing ) no! no, elon, i won't go back. the racism. the misspelling. the calls to violence. the "dot, dot, dots." remember? remember the dot, dot, dots? remember the ( bleep ) covfefe? i am not-- i am not-- ( cheers and applause ) you know what? i am not going t

when masud was charged, bill barr was donald trump's attorney general in 20220.in 2022, we'll at least hear some of this laid out in the courtroom? >> reporter: we will, perhaps that will bring solace, abdelbaset al megrahi convicted in that court in the netherlands, put in jail in scotland and released for that amount of time because he had cancer. i caught up with him in his house in tripoli, libya, right after gadhafi was overthrown. tried to speak to him and he was basically in a coma but his family was professing his innocence. saying there was inconsistencies in the evidence. for the families who lost loved ones here all of that is unimaginably painful for the likes of us who covered this as professional reporters trying to bring out the information. for family members this is information about why this happened, about precisely how it happened. and precisely who was responsible. and then seeing them face justice. so, you know, i sort of come at it with that perspective. we're all sitting here. we all remember when it happened. i remember being here in the

listen to bill barr. bill barr said it. because then the attorney general of united states -- >> this is what bill barr later said at the january 6th committee. >> these claims on the dominion voting machines, and they were idiotic claims, i saw absolutely zero basis for the allegations. but they were made in such a sensational way that they obviously were influencing a lot of people. >> dominion began alerting fox news and other networks that the false allegations they were broadcasting november 12th, four days after sydney powell first discuss dominion with maria bartiromo. but dominion says fox news never retracted their reporting. >> you gave him a lot of chances to correct their statements. >> they still haven't crafted them. to me, that is the most powerful part of the imperative. >> leigh levine is a first amendment attorney. he is litigated cases for 40 years on behalf of most media companies, including cbs and fox. he's retired now, but his old firm is currently representing cnn and me in a separate manner, filed b

. >> there was something, and i wrote about this in the book that i wrote, that bill barr, the former attorney general, said to trump in the spring of 2020 when he was trying to coach him on being a more normal candidate. he said that people are tired of the expletive drama. i think there is something to that. i think even his supporters are tired of the drama. that doesn't mean they won't be with him again, i think they probably will, as long as he has this hold on roughly 30% of the republican party, he's in pretty good shape. and even the polling that shows that there is some erosion. he's definitely decelerating. but he still has that core group. and you can't write him off. >> and the gop hasn't made outreach to other kinds of voters. they've decided against the big tent went all in for trump and have condensed the base over the past six years. so that it is the most purely trump kind of voter. so, they might have a lot of trump support. but it's probably not enough to win another national election. >> two things real quick, of course meghan got that scoop, i got near bill barr,

mark: he is not bill barr is out there condemning trump.is department go after trump on that issue when they never touched hillary clinton on that issue, she, i must say when it comes to taking documents she beats trump by spades, my concern about barr he is quiet about the biden matter yet expressive about the trump matter, it is strange to me, i'm trying to figure it out. i guess i can't. when we come back, hire is my question, the threats made to potential witnesses, and anyone who shows up on tv, this network, should people really begin to delve into biden crime family, and follow the evidence where the evidence leads, what about that? that seems like obstruction toart me, i'll be right back. to pump blood to the body. don't take entresto if pregnant; it can cause harm or death to an unborn baby. don't take entresto with an ace inhibitor or aliskiren, or if you've had angioedema with an ace or arb. the most serious side effects are angioedema, low blood pressure, kidney problems, or high blood potassium. ask your doctor about entresto.

those on you screen the committee released close yesterday, including the forme attorney general bill barr kayleigh mcenany, ivanka trump just to name a few the committee released their 800 plus-page report this week you have been hearing all da -- no bombshells, but the breadth of their work over the last 18 months, these transcripts just prove it all over 1000 witness interviews the committee managed to conduct, more than 1 million documents they received. i want to read you a part of hope hicks's transcript. she is a longtime aide to th former president she was working for him up until the 11th hour. after november 7th - i was so struck by this when i was reading this she did not have much influenc over him anymore this one piece you are seein on your screen was a conversation she had with th former president on januar 11th, five days after th attack on the capitol. he, meaning trump, asked me if i thought it was really as bad as everyone was making it ou to be. my answer was yes. i thought it was she did not say that the forme president took that in any which way. he was more so surpri

massoud was charged by bill barr. he picked it up again and continued it in the trump administration. >> no amount of time or distance will stop the united states and our scottish partners from pursuing justice is in this case. >> the former attorney general joins us in just a moments. but first to david spunt with the back story. hi, david. >> hi, martha. big story today here at federal court. massoud was supposed to come before this judge two hours ago. this is symbolic because out of three people that have been charged with the lockerbie bombing tragedy, he's the only one to face charges physically on american soil, again, he will be in this d.c. courthouse behind me as this begins just any moment. massoud arrived in the u.s. yesterday. 259 people were on the plane and 11 on the ground in scotland all perished in seconds. the flight left heathrow in london on the way to new york city before exploding. hours ago in florida, the widow of one of the victims spoke at a news conference. >> regular people like you and me

one of the most interesting things to come out of it was a revelation that when bill barr went publicing the claims, they drafted a press release they never put out. but the press release would have attacked barr and said, quote, if anybody thinks there wasn't massive fraud in 2020 should be fired. whoa. they didn't put that out, but the committee obtained it from lt nat the national archives. >> there is a lot of new detail in this report. sit long. i tried to go through some of it. we heard about the panel's findings. are there proposals, for example, going to get traction in congress or potentially with the doj? >> you know, sara, beyond all the findings, looking backwards, you're right. the recommendations are so critical trying to look ahead and prevent another disaster from happening again. top of their list from the committee recommendations, they think congress should prohibit trump from ever holding office again. it seems like an uphill crime. they sent criminal referrals to the justice department. the committee expressing its view it violated several federal statutes. that w

attorney general, bill barr, white hous counsel pat cipollone, secretary of transportation, elaine chaol, secretary of stat mike pompeo, and trump's own daughter and senior adviser, ivanka trump. this comes les than 24 hours after th committee dropped its fina report on the january 6t attack. dickey finding from he nearly 18 month investigatio was clear. that without donald trump, the riot would not have happened. let's bring in january 6th committee member and former constitutional la professor congressman jim u. s can. congressman, thank you so much for joining me tonight. i can imagine that you would lov to call it a day. after this week you just had. 845-pag report, huge. but the majority of americans are not going t read it. the bottom line, th bottom takeaway is that what happened was really bad, and donald trump is to blame. ho do you believe that this man i held accountable for doing wha he did >> well, as you know, we need referral to the department o justice of violations of fou different criminal statutes, including interference of th federal proceeding, conspiracy to defraud

there's also bill barr, of course, bill barr was the attorney general at the time who tried repeatedlynald trump that there was no weight, nothing behind these false claims of election fraud. we heard from william barr a lot, actually, in the taped deposition that the committee played throughout the summer and the hearings. i'm just going through this list right now. we also have justin clark who's been a top attorney for the president, argued for the president in many different cases that we've seen actually even over the past year or so. sidney powell, of course, who was one of the election lawyers who vociferously argued even before courts in those claims of -- false claims of election fraud. seeing a lot of names here, you know, we're talking about a very voluminous amount of transcripts. so brianna, our team continues to go through this. most of the transcripts that we had gotten previously were giving us tidbits of new information before the report was released, so presumably any big news that might have come out of looking at these transcripts probably was already contained in t

to give you a prominent example, i'm glad that bill barr finally found the line he wouldn't cross. but across so many lines before he got there. this was something anybody who intervene to reduce the sentencing, dismiss cases against people who are pleading guilty or convicted of lying to congress, lying to investigators to help cover up for themselves and for the former president. bill barr used the department to weaponize against presidents perceived enemies. >> some of them do the right thing in the very end but not only at the very end. we shouldn't forget that. and certainly where there is no taking responsibility we shouldn't forgive that, either. >> one thing i want to talk to you about is a kind of quantification that emerges over the course of this long report of the sheer implacability of the efforts. even in realtime, we saw it play out. we saw the president's big lie, we saw his tweets, we saw him speaking you appearances after. there was a persistent sentence, that this was essentially a -- , that this was someone who was unable to grapple with the fact that he was a l

in the wake of december 2020 when the former attorney general, bill barr, gave an interview with theated press" saying that there was no widespread election fraud, apparently white house staffers right after that, they drafted a press statement saying that anyone who didn't agree with the former president, that there was in fact election fraud, that they should be fired. so this came up in a deposition with the former white house counsel, pat cipollone, and the committee said that the end of the draft statement said this, anybody that thinks there wasn't massive fraud in the 2020 election should be fired. now, pat cipollone said that he has no recollection of this draft statement, that he has no recollection of staffers asking him if it would be okay to post this on social media. he did quip to the committee, wolf, that he said, by the way, i wasn't fired because, of course, he also did not believe that there was widespread election fraud. so there have been a lot of details that have come out in these transcripts in the wake of the report that was released last week and we're expect

then it was attorney general bill barr, the attorney general for president george h. w.h back in 1981 that announce those initial charges against the first two men that never actually made it to the united states. masud will make it to the united states and that's a significant story. we reached out to the white house for comments but still nothing from the white house. big news today. eric: that it is will cover it tomorrow when he appears in court in washington. david spunt, always good to see you. he's been fighting for justice for all of the families for decades and we will follow-up with him and his plea to the biden administration but continuing all of this will be heard. david mentioned the students when they were coming home for christmas after spending the fall semester abroad. a somber look at syracuse university today, take a look at these pictures coming in from current student as he accused university in new york. this is the place of remembrance, on-campus dedicated more than 30 years ago it is a tribute to the 35 syracuse students who were killed on board

the fact of the matter is, you absolutely can say it, as yo can see right here, bill barr, ivanka trumpreactio to what we heard fro congressman raskin >> well, i appreciat congressman raskin and his wor with respect to the committee. i do think that accountability and that's one of the things h testified upon in the end, it' something that all of us are going to wrestle, in terms o what's gonna look like accountability for some people means that we can pressure fro donald, trump and he ends up behind bars. i don't know if that's the typ of accountability we're gonn see. for some people, accountabilit is just the fact that he may b indicted and prosecuted. and for others, accountability is, the ultimate result of the midterms if you think about wha happened as a result of th country's backlash about wha they learned during the course of the committee's findings, and the pushback and the sto of the red wave, if you will during the midterms, for som people, that's wha accountability looks like. but i think the notion o accountability being lifted narrative is not one unfortunately it's goi

it was right after bill barr had publicly done interview saying there was no widespread fraud, he then attorney general over the white house -- anybody that thinks there was not massive fraud in 2020 election should be fired. never issued this press release, eventually bill barr resigned from the administration anyway, we didn't know about that until we saw this pop up in one of the questions investigators asked. one of the other big findings from the report was how extensive the pressure campaign that trump put on state officials was. i will point they say trump and his inner circle engaged in at least 200 apparent acts of public or private outreach to over turn state election results. we know the former president was calling election officials and trying to get state to overturn their election results but what they really try to -- the scope of the efforts by trump's allies to overturn the election. lastly, we are just learning more in some of these transcripts from some of these former white house aides, -- she noted that she learned about the capitol riots and start piecing it toge

this arrest was years in the making former attorney general bill barr announced the charges against theerrorist in 2020. >> long-lost this man responsible for killing americans and many others will be subject to justice for his crimes. jackie: the department of justice spokesperson releasing the statement the united states is taking custody of pan am. abu agela masud is set to make his appearance in the district court for the district of columbia. gianna why want to go ahead and start with you. justice is being served in this case over three decades later which is shown the fight for terrorism against terrorism continues and we have to get at it, keep after and stay after it. >> as you mentioned i remind him of my own fight for justice for my little brother. i thank you for mentioning that point. there are 70 families in this case and 9/11 70 families that continue to believe justice was coming to the doorstep i have to give credit to the biden administration for following through on the commitment that the trump administration made to bill barr no matter how much time, no matter the di

you know, to give you one prominent example, i'm glad that bill barr finally found the -- but he crossed so many lines before he got there. this was somebody who intervened to reduce the sentencing, dismiss cases against people who were pleading guilty or convicted of lying to congress or lying to investigators to help cover-up from their selves and for the former president, bill barr used the department to weaponize it against the presidents perceived enemies. you know, these folks, yes, some of them do the right thing in the very end, but only at the very end. and we shouldn't forget that, and certainly where there's no taking of responsibility, we shouldn't forgive that either. >> one thing i wanted to talk to you about is a kind of quantification that emerges over the course of this former report, of the sheer implacability of the efforts to do this. i think even at the time in realtime, we all saw it play out. we saw the president sweep by, we saw his tweets, we saw his speaking appearances afterwards, there was this really persistent sense, and i think it endured even afterwards, t

i think this department of justice compared to the one that we've seen with jeff sessions and bill barrember the guy who was there for like a blink of an eye, he was there for -- matt whitaker i think maybe was his name. that was a more political department of justice, whereas this is a department of justice that can't really be pressured. what i can say is that the information that's garnered from the january 6th committee does provide a roadmap for the special prosecutor to make, just maybe, come with charges from january 6th. i don't think donald trump has that much legal jeopardy from january 6th. i do think that individuals around him who obstructed justice usually it's not the crime it's the cover up, have a great deal of exposure from january 6. i think that donald trump has the most exposure, phil, from actually taking classified documents down to mar-a-lago. i think that when you see his handling of those classified documents, that and what's going on with benny willis in dekalb county -- fulton county, georgia, those are the cases that probably give him more exposure than janu

we'll get the transcripts of ginni thomas, ivanka trump, bill barr, all of whom testified behind closed doors. >> we'll see if we get those transcripts, exactly when we're going to be seeing them. you're right. there are a lot of things that the committee has been doing that maybe the criminal investigation didn't get into yet. and the other thing that's so different about this is that we're going sort of backwards. there was the impeachment right after the riot of donald trump, those proceedings where he was acquitted by the senate. now we have a congressional proceeding that did a lot of work, really dug in and is going to be releasing their report, and the justice department is going to continue on. we don't actually know what point right now the justice department is in their investigation. we know they're looking at many of the same things. they're talking to many of the same people, but they either may be taking cues from the committee and we may be learning things that become important later on. >>> let's bring in gloria borger and analyst and correspondent paula reid. let's talk

eventually bill barr resigned from the administration anyway.dn't know about that until we saw this pop up in one of the questions investigators asked. one of the other big findings from their report was just how extensive the pressure campaign that trump put on state officials. at one point they say trump or his inner circle engaged in at least 200 apparent acts of public or private outreach to overturn state election results. we know the former president was calling election officials. we know he was trying to get states to overturn their election results. but they really sort of try to bring to you the scope of the effort by trump and his allies to overturn the election. and lastly, we're just learning more in some of the transcripts from the white house aides. kayleigh mcenany noted she learned about the capitol riots, started piecing it together sitting at her desk eating a turkey sandwich. soon after she was subpoenaed to do her interview with the january 6th committee, she got a call from the former president. she told investigators, i be

you had everybody from his family to his high level cabinet members like bill barr to his white househis aides, his campaign associates, all telling him that it was over. the courts telling him that it was over, but donald trump continuing to push it and push it and push it until it culminated into what we saw on january 6th. >> one thing the committee talked about today that we have been talking about over the course of these many months of hearings and meetings, many of the people they chose to highlight here, they put forward for the american people to see were people who were close to former president trump, who worked for him, who were in his orbit, his inner circle, who were saying to your point, exactly these things. the question i have is what happens now from here. referrals were made. they are largely symbolic, historic, unprecedented, significant to that degree, but from a legal perspective, the teeth that they have, it's still an open question at this point. there are other pieces of information that we still don't know. we will find out more of them. it sounds like on wed

booked that flight last minute >> yep >> reporter: this comes two years now after now former attorney bill barr. >> this man will be subject to justice for s crimes >> reporter: dubbed the lockerbie doming, the december 21, 1988, crash killed everyone on board the flight, 190 of them, americans, including 35 students from syracuse university, returning from a semester abroad. the university calling the arrest a significant milestone. >> my parents have known their grandson longer than they knew their son. and that's not the way life should be >> reporter: also killed, 11 people on the ground archive video shows mangled wreckage scattered across a scottish neighborhood. later, funerals. the justice department saying mas'ud will appear in federal court in d.c. f tomorrow >> this is something that we have fought for, to bring justice and hold those accountable for who murdered our loved ones >> and maggie vespa joins me now on set. you said that mas'ud is due tomorrow in court. these families have waiting 35 years what do we know about what's next? >> unfortunately, the road ahead will be long the

. >> reporter: then attorney general bill barr announcing charges against abu agela mas'ud. allegedly confessing to a libyan officer that he built the bomb that brought down the plane. >> there's no question that the panam 103 attack was aimed at the united states. >> reporter: pan-am 103 from london to new york had been in the air less than an hour whether an explosion sent the plane plunging, killing 270 people. 190 of them american. including burt amerman's brother. >> he was 36, young. he didn't get to live his life. >> they've now had to live without him. aaron katersky joins us. aaron, what more are you learning about the suspect tonight? >> reporter: mas'ud had been held in libya. so how he ended up in u.s. custody was not explained. but he is due to make his initial appearance in an american courtroom as soon as tomorrow. >> aaron, thanks so much. >>> now to the massive oil spill in kansas. the largest in the keystone pipeline's history. crews are working around the clock to clean it up. em, we know a federal investigation is now underway. any sense of how this could

the attorney general bill barr, his daughter ivanka trump gave evidence.these are significant people who have contributed to the committee�*s nine hearings. they are hoping that the doj won�*t ignore this. they are doing this for the american public. they have played out these hearings on national tv. it has almost been like tv episodes because they want this to have political implications, they want the public to take this on board and decide that donald trump in the future should never be allowed near the white house again. the full report, by the committee will be made public on wednesday. thank you for that. there have been over ten hearings let�*s have a look at them. we know that people in the close orbit such as ivanka trump and bill barr were interviewed. there are hundreds of hours of video and the first hearing was held last year. president trump ran ads that were false president trump ran ads that were fals �*- ., president trump ran ads that were fals- ., . ., . ., , president trump ran ads that were false and convinced millions of americans _

including lawyer pet cipollone and former attorney genera bill barr.ested in >> i think those two that yo mentioned are incredibly important. pat cipollone i think i wa just coming through it and h does answer questions he doe provide information and he was there in the inner circle so i think he's someone who i incredibly important the other one that i am chri about who haven't looked at get can fulfill ski, to me is fascinating figure it isn't even show up to the justice department for his job until december 2020 -- a few -- said to. and he is working for jeffre clark, and he drops this lette as proof of concept from georgia. he seems like the glue between the two separate threads of th scheme so i'm here's what he had to say. >> we know what our holida reading list is. barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney, thanks as always barb, we appreciate your tim tonight. when we come back, we have muc more on the january 6th report all 800 plus pages of it and the new transcripts that are just out tonight one thing we are learning more about in all of this is

i'm you get an announcement that bill barr will release a summaryof the weekend . and i barged into my bosses office and i say you got me on the air over the weekend. give me a gave me a few hours each day and so haven't on sunday the nisummary came out. we got a warning about it we introduce and get summary itself wishes the four-page statement with one half direct quote from the actual report and as you know, the statement was deeply misleading. it was a political statement but it's all we have to go on so this is me on live television reading the statement without context, a movie underlying ... without the context of the underlying report or the intelligence . and all we had, me and every other news organization was this political statement from a political appointee summarizing what an investigation said. we didn't know it was misleading until three weeks later when the report cameout so the question is , we gave this document the runway to paint a picture about an investigation that was not true . to give the white house this win that they didn't earn. and it

the transcripts include names you will remember and recognize like trump attorney general bill barr,f pages of transcripts that we just got. can you tell me anything about the selection of these names? the committee seems to be -- >> they are all done. i can tell you everything about them. [ laughter ] no. >> can you just -- no, no. and you are a speed reader. that's why you are the cop till hill correspondent. talk about how the committee, you know, how you are reading their selection of which transcripts to release and in what order. >> yeah, i don't think there is a real rhyme or reason to it other than that they are trying to get them out as fast as they can and that we have2;g known f the beginning that there was a security protocol that they needed to go through before they released them. they are going through and redacting the names of people that they are concerned may be of some level of a security risk. they are, you know, eliminating any kind of personal identifying information that could lead to identity theft, something along those lines. so that's a process. it appears

to get an announcement bill barr is going to summary over the weekend. i'm just prepare for it will be a summary of the results of the mueller investigation. i barged into my bosses office is you've got to put me on the air of the weekend. i need time s we don't know when it's going to come out saturday or sunday at some point. they gave me a few hours in the afternoon each day it just so happened on sunday the summer and outward got a warning about it a heads up. we tapped it up to newsweek at the summary itself which is a four-page statement with one half direct rope from the actual report. as you know the statement was deeply misleading present political statement but that was all we had to go on. to this is me on live television reading a statement without context again. without the context of the underlying reporter. and all we had come at me in every other news organization was his political statement from a political appointeeee summarizing what the investigation said. we did not know was misleading until three weeks later when the actual report c

they showed he talked to bill barr after the capitol attack and barr advised him to resign. when asked why he declined to take barr's advice, he said he thought working within the administration to so-called steady the ship would have greater value. let's bring in joyce vance, an msnbc legal analyst. it's never a good look when people are burning papers in their white house office fireplace, right? >> that's an enormous understatement. people are talking about the burning of papers. it's a violation of the official records act. this goes deeper than that. the notion you have the chief of staff to the president of the united states and he's so disturbed by meetings he's having that he feels like he has to burn evidence of those meetings, that's something doj will want to sink its teeth into. witnesses won't be able to bob and weave, they won't be able to avoid testifying. if doj wants mark meadows testimony, it can get it by a series of means. it looks like meadows has a lot of exposure here. doj will be able to get that testimony one way or the other. >> joyce, i'm going to

jason miller, bill stepien, pat cipollone, eric hirschman, bill barr, jeff rosen all part of trump's administration, they all testified under oath that donald trump knew he lost the election. he admitted it privately. very furiously and begrudgingly, but he admitted it privately. in my opinion, anything donald trump did after that point in time is fraudulent and a crime. the stop the steal fundraising he did, the gofundme page, he knew there was no steel to stop. like i said, i think anything he did after he privately acknowledged he lost, anything he did after that, was criminal in fraudulent. host: thank you, brenda. guest: i actually agree that the evidence that the former president knew he lost the election is overwhelming. i also think, as i said, the evidence of corrupt intent on part of the former president at various -- in conjunction with various steps he took, whether it is the phone call to the georgia secretary of state or the conversations with the former vice president, or other things. i think it is clear. when you are asking someone to find over 11,000 votes, come on,