last year and only several weeks after the bo bergdahl exchange. >> you mention the time nothing your article of when the article came out. why is that significant and what does it say about the anti- terror policy of the country right now? >> well, in the worst case scenario, we think it sends a bad message and that the price on american heads is higher right now to rogue bad actors and terrorist groups, rogue regimes, if you get your hands on an american citizen that the price of that american citizen will be very high and we'll be willing to it expend money and resources including potentially terrorist in exchange for those for those american citizens. >> based on your reporting, was the idea floated before the bo bergdahl trade? >> can you clarify that?

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quite frankly, the sense i got from the military in the very beginning, nobody wants to see bo bergdahle official who are very federaliar with the interrogations bergdahl had undergone during his transition back to freedom after he was released by the taliban, they say they characterize bergdahl as harmless he has no ill intent animosity, the u.s. for that mat. according to one official we talk to, look, this is one messed up mixed up kid who made a very bad decision. >> you do sense that. you sense that bergdahl when he came back to the united states he also seemed to be quiet, humble. kept his head down. you also. >> trauma advertised. >> trauma advertised. did not make contact with his family that told him to follow his conscience. you know i think i have a feeling it just seemed reading through the lines, there are a lot of people in the military that don't like what he did at all yet feel for this young kid because as you said very confused and messed up. he got some horrible guidance. >> that could be. we are told in fact that bergdahl when he was a soldier, when he was on duty be

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the bo bergdahl controversy heats up. the army interviewed the sergeant who may be a deserter back in august. yet they are still sitting on the report. we'll have an update tonight. >> i will apologize to the veterans. i haven't seen the movie and i think it was wrong. >> howard dean says is he sorry he demonized people going to seat movie "american sniper." but is he really sorry? >> >> we have all day listening to the tease of bill o'reilly. g.o.p. contender thinking about running for president like donald trump, sarah palin, yuck, yuck. >> also ahead, sarah palin apparently annoyed with me. for, well, i don't know exactly what for. we will play you the entirety of what she said caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. ♪ ♪ >> hi i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. is terrorism overwhelming the obama administration? that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. former defense intention agency chief lt. general michael flynn slammed the white house for not

army soldier bo bergdahl. u.s. officials say there's a fundamental difference between a military prisoner exchange and paying ransom. however, foley's boss said other countries have paid ransom to successfully bring their people back home. >> i think our policy for dealing with hostages is a failed policy. >> reporter: foley's boss is now raising money to free another american hostage, 26-year-old female aide worker being held by isis. and for isis and other terror groups the business of kidnap and ransom is big business. it's not only a way to get money, it's also a way to perpetuate the propaganda by holding not only an individual hostage but the entire psyche of a nation. every time a ransom is paid it means someone else will be taken captive. deborah feyerick cnn, new york. >>> u.s. secretary chuck hagel says help may be needed in iraq. he told barbara starr he doesn't think a redeployment of troops is necessary quite yet but he's considering all options in iraq including sending troops in noncombat roles. the

well army sergeant bo bergdahl could be charged with he desertion. fox news and nbc news say charges could come went week. army said it completed its investigation into the circumstances sour rounding bergdahl's capture. some claimed he deserted his post. bergdahl was freed in may, you'll remember, in which change for the release of five taliban prisoners. >> now to a developing story about 30 minutes ago investigators in georgia confirmed they found the bodies of a missing couple and are now awaiting autopsy results. the bodies of 61-year-old and wife june were recovered yesterday. that is where the couple travelled to answer a car ad. he gay false staeuplz and attempt to commit they have. >> they're giving up efforts to recover the wreckage of flight 8501. and comes nearly a month after the commercial jet crashed into the sea. the recovery operation had been hindered by bad weather and technical problems. search and rescue will continue working though to retrieve 92 bodies still missing. 72 bodies were recovered. 162 people were killed. people in ok

those for those american citizens. >> based on your reporting, was the idea floated before the bo bergdahlyou clarify that? >> was this brought up as an idea to it trade the sleeper agent for this couple before the bergdahl story. >> in this specific instance not to it my knowledge and throughout history sure there are instances where terrorist groups have tried to make exchanges for american citizens and soldiers and in this specific case, with the wong couple not to our knowledge. i am not aware of this being the case. >> you described a lmarri in a facility and i am curious and we are seeing video of him. what is the reaction to your reporting? >> can you bring us anything new as you work the story. >> the state department said there was no offer made. this is sort of a broad and there is a lot of wiggle room in that sort of statement. i mean, to say that there was no offer made, it's hard to say. ifap emiszary came to you and what would you say if i lay this proposal out on the table? and what would you say if i offered you this? what would you say if we vahhingly made the proposal. it

one out of five released for bo bergdahl who we are hearing at least had some contact with the talibanhis one out of five. meanwhile the white house has spent the last two days trying to tell us what the taliban is. that it's an armed insurgency and not a terrorist group. >> i'm shocked shocked to discover that one of the taliban terrorist from guantanamo is back in the business. of course they are back in the business is there anybody who thought it would be otherwise? i'm surprised it took them, what, six months or so? the idea that somehow qatar would be the guardian, would be the jailer for these guys, and would prevent any of this activity is preposterous. it was a swap. you gave the guy over. you know he will be in the field. and to pretend otherwise i think is a mistake. you have got to be honest about what the consequences of your actions are. >> armed insurgency. >> almost unbelievable. i think the public has reached a point of sensory overload when there are so many things going on, all of them bad, all of them discrediting to the administration that this stuff doesn't seem t

taliban five are the gitmo detainees who were traded and, yes, released in exchange for sergeant bo bergdahl. and for more on this breaking news fox news chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge joins us. what in the world is going on? >> this the second time that fox has been able to confirm that the taliban five are members of that group have really declared their public intention to reengage with their networks in afghanistan. shortly after they were transferred or released to it qatar, we were able to confirm that they had two visitors from the hack canny network. it's a terrorist organization that works closely, sort of hand in glove with the taliban. now tonight we have had confirmation from an administration official and a military official that one of the five has tried to have direct phone contact with the taliban. so, it's not a mystery that they are trying to reengage. >> here's my thought. this is just my guess. we caught them doing it once. and we confront the administration and they admit it. i mean, how can would he be confident this isn't going on often? >> you can

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was bo bergdahl worth this swap? >> absolutely not. it's a joke.iple enemy generals. it's pathetic swap. >> >> have to leave it there we want to hear from our viewers this morning and go to our facebook page and way in on this story. sergeant jordan vaughn we appreciate you joining us this morning. thank you so much. >> thank you. clayton. protesters just learned this message the hard way. don't mess with senator john mccain. you know, you are going to have to shut up or i'm going to have you arrested. get out of here you low life scum. >> so from westboro to code pink when does free speech cross the line? a legal debated is coming up next. next. ♪♪ expected wait time: 55 minutes. your call is important to us. thank you for your patience. waiter! vo: in the nation, we know how it feels when you aren't treated like a priority. we do things differently. we'll take care of it. vo: we put members first... join the nation. thank you. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ kelley blue book... it's the trusted resource. and now, kbb.com has a whole new way to hel

now for the top story tonight, the pentagon striking back in the bo bergdahl case. factor using military analyst lt. colonel shaffer has reported heavy pressure on general mark mille to go easy on sergeant bergdahl who we have mentioned was traded for the top taliban commanders. army denies that and also denies that general mille has come to any conclusion about bergdahl but how can that be possible? joining us from washington colonel ralph peters fox news strategic analyst. so the army interviewed bergdahl in august 2000 page report, which wrapped up in october. this is the second report on bergdahl now it's february coming and they still don't know. does that make sense to you as a military man? >> no. but everything i'm hearing ised that the white house is is white wash the bergdahl case. let sergeant bergdahl walk. hey, by the way, something that really, really particulars me off about this. the funny promotion of sergeant. bill, i wore a buck sergeants stripe on my collar before i went to the dark side and became an officer. is he no sergeant unless you get str

so how is the bo bergdahl situation different from what jordan is trying to do now?h the two, but it's very difficult. whatever the jordanian government decides, we won't be critical. they're in a difficult spot. we did trade bo bergdahl for the taliban in something that i'm not sure was a very good exercise and a very good precedent for the united states to set, but in any eyevent jordan is a key ally. we'll support them with whatever they decide they have to do. this is the scurge of dealing with a terrorist organization that is willing to behead people if it doesn't get what it wants. there are no laws of war. there's no rules of war. there's nothing but brutality, murder and death when it comes to isil. it ought to reinforce why this terrorist group has to be stopped. >> there's also been a terror attack on a tourist hotel in libya in tripoli in the capital. one american was killed. what should the u.s. response be? >> well this is a very difficult situation because you've got two rival governments competing with each other, one in tabrook and one in tripoli. we

officials tell us one of the five taliban leaders in exchange for sergeant bo bergdahl has made tell to members of the taliban. senator lindsey graham said publicly it was members of the haqqani network pakistani network of taliban, who are on the state department's terror list. defense department tells me that the white house was told by u.s. military commanders it would be difficult to react to dim finish the threat posed by taliban leaders should they go is missing from qatar. pentagon has close security partnership with the government of qatar. we're cost in our -- confident in our ability to mitigate any threat posed by former guantanamo detainees. intelligence sources say release of taliban may be viewed by suspicion of terror group, which may fear they could be u.s. plants, bill. bill: jennifer, what is the reaction you're hearing in the town? >> a lot of angry reaction from capitol hill. some members of certain committees briefed on the developments, they are speaking out. here is senator john mccain the new chairman of the senate armed services committee. >> in past releases

we negotiated to free bo bergdahl with five taliban commanders.o sweep back the other way that we'll do these deals. martha: what do you i give of the fact what we're seeing is different than what we've seen in the past? in the past we see orange jumpsuit hostages. most of those stories ended in complete tragedy. kenji goto japanese journalist is part of this. he is holding a picture of this pilot. that has led jordan to raise the legitimate question, is he alive, and why are you not showing him to us? they just released a audio recording by kenji goto saying you better come do this swap because he only has couple more hours. what do you read into all that? >> tough to say the hostage could be dead already unfortunately or he could be alive. it is not unusual for isis to negotiate for high-profile jihadi in jail. two americans killed guys in orange jumpsuits, they wanted to trade for lady al qaeda here in in u.s. reason they wanted that huge propaganda coup look how we freed lady jihadist from jails and americans are weak and succumbed to us. that

the president of the united states can dismiss any parallel between a swap by this country for bo bergdahl, five taliban terrorists and jordan's swap with the islamic state for one of its pilots. >> it's precisely the same thing, and they're both mistakes. you know, it used to be our policy, we didn't negotiate with terrorists. the reason for that, it's very straightforward. if you buy hostages back you're simply creating a market in hostages. you may free one or two. you'll encourage the kidnapping of others. that's what the jordanians have done. they feared for the stability of their monarchy. we did something worse. we gave someone who will be prosecuted for desertion and gave away enemies of the united states. what underlies this tongue twisting at the white house, they want to make a deal with the taliban. they want to say when the taliban takes over in afghanistan again that we can deal with them. that we can have diplomatic relationships with them as with cuba and iran. if they're just an armed insurrection it's a lot easier. lou: the president, it could be sensibly argued, if not c

the sergeant bo bergdahl controversy is heating up. been charged with desertion. >> no decision has been made with respect to the case of sergeant bergdahl. none.

. >> what about the five that was released for bo bergdahl. >> the commander in chief replenished the time while hethey are against our soldiers and our people. >> and are there a ton of people so excited that 140 something in guantanamo bay so released. is that a major issue do you think? >> it is it for people that they not be released and a major issue for obama's base be released. they are the not a great deal of people, but those are the people he listens to. ngitmo detainees are not the only one to be concerned. a former islamic terrorist abandoned his faith and worked as a double agent. here is the details on how al-qaeda is operating. yeah. yeah. ah. >> but he knows about your work. huh, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. yeah, everybody knows that. well, did you know that playing cards with kenny rogers gets old pretty fast? ♪ you got to know when to hold'em. ♪ ♪ know when to fold 'em. ♪ ♪ know when to walk away. ♪ ♪ know when to run. ♪ ♪ you never count your money, ♪ ♪ when you're sitting at the ta...♪ what? you get it? i get the gist ye

army sergeant bo bergdahl may give jordan cover to go forward with its own swap. let's talk about all of this and more with a state department spokeswoman, jen psaki. thanks very much for joining us. >> great to be here. >> if the jordanians go ahead and release this female terrorist, convicted terrorist, in exchange for their pilot, captured by isis and maybe throw in the japanese journalist who hopefully is still alive, that would be okay with the u.s. government right? >> well let me first say, wolf that jordan is a partner country. they are a friend an ally. we work with them on a range of issues around the world. they are going through an incredibly difficult situation that unfortunately, we can relate to given our own history with isil hostages here. this hasn't happened yet. as you mentioned in your reporting and through your reporters, there are a lot of different scenarios and details. we are in touch with a range of parties but we are going to wait to see what happens and how this plays out before we make a judgment. >> but on principle, a swap like this

never negotiations with terrorists except those times that we do such as the bo bergdahl situation withgh moral ground on this isn't it? >> it's a little bit unfair to state it that way, i have to say. look we have positions for a reason. it's not just to have the position. we believe that when you macon sessions to terrorists it puts more american citizens at risk paying ransoms and negotiating can do that. now we have a policy of course for the men and women who volunteer to serve our country and proudly do that around the world. i don't think anyone is suggesting we should leave them behind. that's our policy. every country has a different policy and this has been an international debate for good reason and i think that will unfortunately continue. >> let me read for you what the father of the jordanian pilot is -- the plea that he is making. he says we want jordan to withdraw from the coalition, he means of fighting isis to ensure the safety of our sons. this is not our war. then he refers to the female al qaeda prisoner. who is sajida to us? sajida is a burden on us. let them relea

the administration that began with last year's swap of the taliban guantanamo bay for sergeant bo bergdahl who deserted his post in afghanistan. asked if it was a coincidence the wangs wangs were released in december amary a month later a states department spokesperson had not denied floated a deal. >> thank you. kelly ayotte serves on the armed services committee and she joins us. nice to see you, senator. >> nice to see you, greta. >> do you get wind of the releases or hear about it after they are finished, they are complete. >> this one we wouldn't have gotten any word of because he was released out of a super max in colorado. so we did not get word of this. and i'm very glad that duncan hunter is asking questions. i do think we need more details about this because the timing of this is very suspicious. buff we do have to take it back to the taliban five transfer. so, now you have a situation where we transfer those five dangerous members. >> transfer or release. >> release essentially greta. they are in qatar but think are scheduled to go back to afghanistan. that's the real worry that

they are calling the obama administration swap of the taliban five for sergeant bo bergdahl a bad dealer fueled by news that one member of the taliban five has been intercepted making phone calls to the taliban. but today pentagon press secretary rear admiral again making trade insisting the taliban five under control. >> we had reason to believe that there was some activities by at least

freed high-ranking taliban commanders for sergeant bo bergdahl.hite house chief of staff denis mcdonough said the berg dove swap did not open up a pandora's box. >> we don't get into negotiations with terrorist and don't pay ransom which furthers kidnappings that won't -- >> prisoner swap? >> we're not going to do that. >> what is troubling about this, harris, it does appear a pandora's box was opened. you covered this last night on the fox report. you saw mcdonough make the rounds and i don't think he did a particularly good job. he said the release of amari was just routine. if it was routine and not done for a swap why did we release him? >> that is ins it kent. we've done prisoner swaps. >> a lot of them. >> with very one woman in custody with savages, with terrorists. we don't know what deal will be made. we learned that from denis mcdonough. he accidentally dropped her name. that was extremely unfortunate. we have want an and asked to keep that information low profile for her safety, we hope. but so we know that this is inconsistent. then i

about the taliban five who were released for bo bergdahl and that produced this exchange. >> how is whaterent than what the united states did to get the release of bergdahl? >> releasing prisoners held at guantanamo bay. >> to the taliban which is clearly a terrorist organization. >> prisoner swaps are traditional end of conflict interaction that happens as the war in afghanistan wound down. we felt like it was the appropriate thing to do. the president's bedrock commitment as commander and chief is to leave no man or woman behind. that's the principle he was operating under. >> isn't that the jordanians are operating under? the taliban is still conducting terrorist attacks you can't really say that the war has ended as far as they are concerned. >> i would also point out that the taliban is an armed insurgency. isil is a terrorist group. so we don't make concessions to terrorist groups. >> wasn't the taliban a terrorist group? >> i don't think that the taliban -- the taliban is an armed insurgency, this was the wintding down of the war in afghanistan that's why this arrangement was deal

did a similar move last year trading five guantanamo bay detainees for bo bergdahl. but negotiating with isis? >> every country has the ability and the right to make decisions. >> reporter: whatever happens, there are concerns isis will use it as propaganda in its social media campaign and claim victory. >> it puts them on a new tier. instead of just being a criminal organization a terrorist group, they are now making arrangements with a sovereign government. that in and of itself shows their followers that they have power. >> reporter: though some of that power may be waning. intelligence officials have noticed the latest isis video was shot indoors and are wondering if that change may be a result of the coalition successfully targeting places seen in prior isis videos. now, a source close to all of this tells cnn one of the reasons jordan is willing to let this female prisoner go is she did not directly engage in killing in those 2005 hotel attacks. her suicide vest did not detonate. the jordanians are using that as a reason that they believe they can make the trad

democrats the administration returned them to qatar in exchange for the release of captured soldier bo bergdahl, the soldier accused of deserting his squad. a top lawmaker coming forward to say not everyone in the administration signed off on this deal. the outgoing secretary of defense, chuck hagal just admitted tonight the white house wanted detainees freed from gitmo faster than he was comfortable with. >> not everyone is agreeing with me. >> what part, sir? >> pace of releases. >> have you had pressure? >> we've had a lot of conversations. in congress. and in the press. >> i don't think it was thoroughly vetted who the five guys were. i think the five guys turned out to be problematic and a key number of people in the administration were not consulted when this trade was made . >> i spoke with admiral john kirby about the controversy about this deal. >> great to see you, colonel. can you assure the american people these five guys don't pose a threat to the united states? >> we're working closely with the governor of qatar to mitigate any threat to the maximum degree possible. we're aware of

negotiate with terrorists but when asked about the release of five taliban detainees for army sergeant bo bergdahl, the deputy white house press secretary told abc's jonathan karl, that is not the same thing. >> i would also point out the taliban is an armed insurgency. isil a terrorist group. so we don't make concessions to terrorist groups. >> not calling the taliban a terrorist group? >> i don't think the taliban the taliban is an armed insurgency. this was the winding down of the war in afghanistan. that's why this arrangement was dealt. >> so you got that? isis is a terrorist group. the taliban in began dan not at all. we found the state department does classify the pakistani taliban as such. the white house's verbal gymnastics getting this reaction from congressman duncan hunter, one of the administration's biggest critics on the bergdahl trade. he says, quote, it is commentary indicative of a delusional world view. the white house screwed up on the bergdahl trade plain and simple. now they want to justify their actions splitting hairs how they compare the taliban to isis. congressman duncan

keep going do you think the obama administration is stalling on the release of the report of bo bergdahlet us know what you think. we have a great receiver tonight. thank you for being with us tonight. we'll see you back here tomorrow this is a fox news alert. time is running out for two hostages held by isis and now jordan offering to do a very controversial prisoner swap with a terrorist to save their jordanian air force pilot. jordan is offering to release a convicted terrorist, a woman who killed nearly 60 people, in coordinated bombings on hotels in jordan in 2005. at this hour, there is no word on the fate of the jordanian pilot nor is there any word about the fate of the japanese journalist also being held by identifies and also facing the threat of beheading. if the female terrorist is not released within 24 hours, so will the terrorist swap happen and if so will it set a dangerous precedent?

they are calling the obama administration swap of the taliban five for sergeant bo bergdahl a bad deal. the republicans anger fueled by news that one member of the taliban five has been intercepted making phone calls to the taliban. but today pentagon press secretary rear admiral again making trade insisting the taliban five under control. >> we had reason to believe that there was some activities by at least potential reengagement. we communicated with the government of qatar and again steps are being put in place to further limit it. i would haven hasten to remind it is because of the process we have in place and the strong relationship that we have with the government of qatar that we were able to identify this particular activity. >> senator john mccain joins us. nice to see you sir. what about what the admiral has to say? >> he is really quick isn't he? >> stunning how he kept her. ming and hawing. >> trying to return to the fight. these people are free to go anywhere in three months. let me just mention this to you about this aspect. when i was in hanoi with my fellow pomplet p.o

the sergeant bo bergdahl controversy is heating up. he's been charged with desertion. >> no decision has been made with respect to the case of sergeant bergdahl. none. and there is no time line to make that decision, and general millie is not being put under any pressure to make a decision. i think it is extraordinarily premature for anybody to say that they know what general millie is going to decide and when he's going to decide it. >> there's more. remember back in september when president obama cited yemen as a successful partner in our fight against terrorists? well, fast forward to two days ago. president obama admitting yemen is a dangerous country. so why is the u.s. releasing detainees to yemen's neighbors. senator lindsey graham joins us. good evening senator. >> thank you. >> any successes in foreign policy from the president? >> yeah, i think the decision to go after bin laden in pakistan was a courageous decision. so many things could have gone bad. he was viewed as a jimmy carter type figure. i give the president high mar

taliban five are the gitmo detainees who were traded and, yes, released in exchange for sergeant bo bergdahln this breaking news fox news chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge joins us. what in the world is going on? >> this the second time that fox has been able to confirm that the taliban five are members of that group have really declared their public intention to reengage with their networks in afghanistan. shortly after they were transferred or released to it qatar, we were able to confirm that they had two visitors from the hack cann

the bo bergdahl controversy heats up.terviewed the sergeant who may be a deserter back in august. yet they are still sitting on the report. we'll have an update tonight. >> i will apologize to the veterans. i haven't seen the movie and i think it was wrong. >> howard dean says is he sorry he demonized people going to seat movie "american sniper." but is he really sorry? >> >> we have all day listening to the tease of bill o'reilly. g.o.p. contender th

they are calling the obama administration swap of the taliban five for sergeant bo bergdahl a bad dealfueled by news that one member of the taliban five has been intercepted making phone calls to the taliban. but today pentagon press secretary rear admiral again making trade insisting the taliban five under control. >> we had reason to believe that there was some activities by at least

released taliban detainees from guantanamo bay in exchange for bo bergdahl so the united states has released has to get one of its service members back. this is done but it's very delicate and very sensitive. >> i want to go back to will ripley. he's had a chance to watch this video. what did you see? >> reporter: yeah again, i'm watching it live on testimonylevision along with all the other viewers in japan that are seeing t. it was a man dressed in all black with a beard. i couldn't identify him from sight. he was standing in front of what appeared to be an isis flag. i don't know for sure if it was an isis flag. we need to have an expert take a look at this. he was saying according to the translation on japanese television that in the name of alla we are releasing the hostages but no names were mentioned. not kenji goto not the pilot. this is coming out in the past few minutes. another piece of propaganda. this time propaganda saying hostages of some nature are being released. as soon as we learn more we'll let you know. >> so if all of this is true bob, will we see more of this from isis

you'll remember in the exchange for bo bergdahl that happened on very short notice in terms of the location. u.s. special forces were able to fly there very quickly, but it had been worked out. there were security procedures in place. very quietly the deal had been cooked. so whether the deal is exactly cooked right now remains to be seen. one of the keys is this female prisoner is going to have to come all the way from jordan if this is going to happen into this border region between northern syria and turkey. no indication that she's left jordan yet, that she's been transferred in any way. these are all the things all the signs that people are looking for, carol. >> jomana, if this deal falls through, how will the people of jordan react? because they're not exactly thrilled that jordan's involved in this fight anyway right? >> reporter: there is a difference of opinion here carol. first of all, we have to look at the family of the pilot. he comes from an influential tribe in jordan. they're important for the support of the monarchy here. there is a level of anger amongst his tribes member

for example, bo bergdahl a violation not to negotiate with terrorist, and a bad deal.on correspondent barbara starr has more on this. what do we know? >> chris, good morning. several u.s. officials have confirmed that there is intelligence that one of those five detainees returned to qatar has returned to negotiations. one was caught essentially via a classified intercept program. caught making phone calls back to associates in afghanistan. now, inside the intelligence community, a big debate going on. some will tell you, not that serious, they caught him at it. but i will tell you that multiple sources tell me inside the intelligence community a good deal of concern about all of this. this is not the first time a returned detainee has called returned to the battlefield, engaged in militant activity after being transferred out of guantanamo bay. but this case getting a lot of political attention in washington because it does involve that five for one transfer for bo bergdahl. michaela. >>> i want to turn to breaking news for saudi arabia, his sister confirms he's once

. >> well, look the real problem was when they swapped the jihadist terrorists at gitmo for bo bergdahling a war. this is a long war. it is a, not a long war of our making. it is a long war of their making there. is a very good and real reason why you don't exchange prisoners, pay ransom or exchange hostages. why? because they to back into the fight. and so, yes, is there a connection between the release of this jihadist prisoner, this al qaeda guy and the family in qatar? well the administration says no. let me tell you i worked for a president who was accused trading hostages for arms and it almost brought down a presidency. there is a very good reason we don't do this we know our allies do. it is a mistake every time. martha: one last question for you, because it is interesting isis calling for release of this woman who was involved in the triple hotel bombings under zarqawi i believe back in 2005. >> right. martha: there is a connection, is there not, between isis and the roots what was left over of zarqawi's al qaeda division? >> yeah. isis is al qaeda rebranded. it is tougher, mea

. >>> did president obama swap five dangerous prisoners for bo bowe bergdahl to score political points? that's what they're saying over at msnbc. >> when you bring bergdahl and his family into the rose garden and you take to all three sunday shows, you are embracing and politicizing the decision. in the summertime, as you recall, the president's numbers weren't very good. there weren't a lot of good news stories for him. i think they made a strategic decision at that point that this was something they wanted to highlight. and i think frankly it would be much less of an embarrassment if they hadn't gone on the sunday shows or brought bergdahl and his family into the rose garden. >> nbc news is reporting bergdahl is going to be charged with desertion. and a guest on fox news said so too. cnn is reporting we'll know the decision in days. so has the white house been delaying an announcement? elisabeth hasselbeck asked rear admiral kirby about it this morning. >> is there pressure on the pentagon to delay any charges on bowe bergdahl? >> oh my goodness no. that is the most ludicrous claim i

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