>> bush fatigue, what about clinton fatigue?> that takes care of everyone except for rush limbaugh. here is an edited version of his hot take today. >> jeb bush is out telling potential voters ceo's and the like, he is not -- he is not -- going to compromise his principles like others have. meaning he is not going to pander to conservatives. he is going to show you can win the republican party nomination without securing the base. their wildest dream is to render tea party conservatives and irrelevant factor. >> ok, mark, we have an exploratory committee, rush up in arms. this was jeb's first move. what are his other moves. >> -- what are his other moves? >> not quite an exploratory committee. it is a super pac. we talked the other night about how strong jeb bush would be if he got in. what was one of the big concerns about jeb bush did he have the fire in his belly to run? coming out first basically, the first guy to say i am exploring this, i made do this as a major candidate. most people thinking of supporting jeb bush are de

bush boyhood home when it should be the george h.w. bush home where george w. lived as a boy. >> they came -- your parents moved here from the new england area about what year? >> 48. yeah. and everybody expected dad to be a wall street guy. and instead he decides to take mother and me to odessa, texas. and, in the book, there is a constant references to the risks he has taken throughout his life. that had to be one of the bigger gambles in a way. >> people think that he -- i mean, he did have a lot of advantages, grew up in a great education. he could have gone to wall street. didn't. after high school he could have gone in the military he could have gone off to jail and -- gone off to yale. there are times he could have taken a comfortable position and he didn't. >> i i want everybody to understand george bush better like many of his friends know him. people develop myths about you when you are in public life and, you know, of course a mitt is that this is a guy that has had it given to him all his life. contrary to reality. the reality is that he worked hard

another bush? let's get to work. ♪ ♪ >> we're seeing more and more that people often model their lives on their parents. >> there's other people out there that are very qualified. we've had enough bush's. >> i can tell you if your parents work in politics, well, you know the rest. >> oops. >> these are dangerous extreme radical times. >> today has been awesome, girl. >> i think i could serve well as president. >> i do not like this uncle sam. >> gays can serve openly in the military but our kids can't openly celebrate christmas. >> i hope jeb runs. i think he would be a great president. >> obamacare is more -- like jason. or freddie. >> running for the president is not an iq test. ♪ ♪ >>> good to have you with us tonight we start with major news on the political front concerning 2016, yet another bush is setting his sights on the white house. earlier today, jeb bush, former governor of florida changed the news cycle with this facebook post. >> well, some republicans think jeb bush could be their sa

bush on hand as george h.w.s the republican nominee and ran in his own right and became president. 1992, you have the double. bill clinton and george h.w. bush, he was the incumbent, bill clinton the democratic challenger, ross paro involved in that race. hillary clinton here as her husband ran for re-election, move the time line along. unique moment in 2000, slide it over so you can see it, there you go, bill clinton handing the keys over to george w. bush in 2000. 2004, brother jeb was the surrogate as the brother ran for re-election. 2008, the age of the iphone, hillary clinton was the democratic nominee, but of course she ran in the democratic primaries, clinton in the running there. 2012, no clinton. no bush in the running for president. and now looking forward to 2016, and the big question mark, hillary clinton likely to run on the democratic side, jeb bush is considering running on the republican side. we'll reset that and walk over, robert costa, why hillary clinton formidable can wait, we'll hear from h

bush. host: sondes like you consider those two potential contenders as mother rats. caller: to me they're liberals. and that's their -- that's what they are. host: because of those two issues. caller: that's the two main ones for me. common core and immigration. >>> i'm not against immigrants, because i have a sister inlaw who is spanish, and she came here right way. and they need the ones that came in the right way first, and you don't let somebody to break the law. >>> not care about anything america stands for. host: let me ask you, who do you want to see run then? caller: doctor carson, huckabee, walker. perry, there's so many. that's there, that people would vote for. but they made us take mccain, and, they forced romney, and you don't get something that's forced on you. host: let's go to jim next. democratic caller. were you in florida when jeb bush was the governor. caller: yes. host: how do you remember his tenure? caller: i would have rather have had a democrat. which, jeb bush, i

bush presidency. and there are folks in the republican base who are still angry with president george w. bush over what they say was profligate spending in those eight years. tea party folks are perplexed how he spent those eight years and he will have to answer sfor that. >> there will be florid anger over that for the next two years whoever will be 2016 candidate will have to tack that'll in a way not even the last candidate had to. >> it is a policy associated very much with the bushes. >> there's so many bushes. >> it's out on the record as saying that coming into this country illegal is an act of love. so he staked out territory within the republican universe which is not where the heart of the party is when it comes to the heart of immigration. >> it is literally for some people a non-starter. rick perry said have a heart and he fell through the door. it is hard to imagine jeb bush, losing the primary to lose the general is not something you could do but seems to be his only strategy. >> as an a

this is about jeb bush and likewise, we should not penalize governor bush because is he a bush. not running. this is about jeb bush. so, as we cover 2016, let's in the media be smart. report about what matters. be fair and may the best man or woman win. and that's my off-the-report comment toned. thank you for being with us. we will see you again tomorrow night right here at 7:00 p.m. eastern. if you can't watch live, use your dvr. also check out new podcast, greta talk. go subscribe on itunes, tune in, or stenture and it's free. right now go to gretawire.com and answer this question does president obamas have the right strategy for dealing with the taliban or not? vote in our gretawire poll and, of course, follow me on twitter at the handle @greta. up up next, the o'reilly factor good night from washington, d.c. >>> tonight on "red eye." >> coming up on "red eye," ever wondered how tv's lou dobbs commutes to work? how he puts riding the subway to shame as he pulls off one of the most radical stunts ever captured on film. and what was the vice president's answer to the most diff

bush, son of jeb bush, who won texas agriculture commissioner. doesn't sound like a big job but he won it in a land slide. campaigned his heart out. a lot of people think the big super bowl of texas politics someday will be jorks p. bush running for governor against dynastic name there. gwen: what did this do for other candidates left out in the shadows by the huge dynasty? i can name half dozen on the republican side, couple more on the democratic side. >> it creates a space for being an alternative to this person. again, hillary clinton was almost exactly the same spot in 2008 as she was now. who would have thought that this -- the guy with a foreign-soundsing name who barely entered the senate could have come from behind and beaten her? the name, creates a space for alternative and also it cannot overcome. gwen: nothing is a done deal until it's done. thank you, karen. thank everybody else too. we're out of time for now but we plan to keep talking online. you can join us there on our "washington week" webcast extra. streaming live at 8:30 p.m.

bush got beaten badly in new hampshire.don't know if jeb bush has gotten any better opportunity in new hampshire that his brother had. >> the father ran twice. >> he will be his father's son rather than his brother's brother. >> maybe there is some scenario for mitt romney but he certainly sticks out for a while if jeb bush goes forward. what about the other establishment candidates? mike pence, john kasich. is there anybody else that looks of this and says they are ready to take jeb bush on and if so, where is he vulnerable of attack? >> i think he is portable to attack on the establishment side against himself. i think he has to perform and away the establishment people who think he is a strong candidate can say yes, i was right about that. the others you mentioned -- i am dubious of governor snyder. he did not sound like a person who wanted to get ready to run a presidential campaign. i think the same about governor kasich. i think it is more possible that he might become a candidate, but the things he is doing right now

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so the idea of bush-clinton, bush-obama-bush sticks in people's craws. obviously mother's.hen of course but you get a look at it in the context of reality how about bush, clinton, bush, obama, clinton. in other words, isn't perfect. so that's not a reason for jeb to run or not to run. jeb knows what it's like. he's watched it up close twice. >> you talk about being on the campaign trail with your dad. >> yeah. >> and the hard times, the good times, the re-election, which 1992 was very hard for you. >> very hard for all of us. >> and then you describe how you appointed former president clinton and your dad and they became the best of friends. >> yeah, which speaks volumes about both. >> what does that mean to a potential jeb bush-hillary clinton showdown? >> it means jeb and i will have interesting things to talk about. look, i'll still like him when jeb beats hillary. >> are you betting on that? >> if jeb runs -- look, i don't know if he's going to run or not. i really don't. i hope he runs because he'd be a great president. he's weighing it out. he's going to take a very d

jeb bush plants the flag and a lot of those scatter. >> reaction to jeb bush and his move as well as what cruz thinks about his critics from both sides of the ooirl and all of the back and forth on capitol hill, you don't want to miss that just a bit later. still ahead, are sanctions starting to take their toll on the russian economy. >>> fox 5 in atlanta has the story of the serial killer arrested for a fourth murder. 34-year-old amon pressly had already been charged with the deaths of two homeless men and a hairstylist, police don't yet have a motive. >> the interagency -- the fbi, atf an the u.s. marshalls are all working to find out who killed jegs can chambers, the 19-year-old was doused in flames and burned alive early last week. >>> and here's a live look at philadelphia, the big story there is the end of a man hunt in philadelphia for ex-marine bradley william stone, the suspect who was thought to have killed his ex-wife and fiver of their relatives was found dead in a forest not far from their home. that's a look at outside the beltway from special report. we'll be right bac

bush administration spokesman. that is why i wouldn't be didn't decide e to run because it is such a different game. there is almost nothing in common between the campaign averment of years ago and the campaign environment today. so much has changed. a new entrant like this is adjust to that.o a little bit from the article. now we want to hear from you. again, republicans only for this first segment. would you like in 2016? the numbers are up on the screen. joe in florida, who do like in 2016' caller: i think there are plenty of we should be supporting for president. the democrats are probably going to put up a woman. need to sit down -- we have good governors, such as those in south carolina and new mexico. and in the private sector. host: thank you. dave in atlanta, good morning. caller: good morning. democrats are at. trying to climb -- this is the reason why a lot of african-americans are locked up today because of these democrats. bill clinton basically government on the far right. you put in place -- he cut w

jeb bush is in the race for president.pefuls are milling around and talking up their chances and selling themselves, the former florida governor has entered the starting gate. his ears perked for the starting gun. this is a game-changer today. and declaring that he will actively explore a presidential run he's made himself the third bush to putse

that persuaded bush to follow clinton. his commitment to educating children of all ages about the founding documents has helped to cement our exciting collaborations with the college board, intelligence squared, with whom we started a onstitutional debate series, and a model for nonpartisanship and patriotism. i am pleased to be able to stand with governor bush to honor his father tonight. when it came time to name the bill of rights gallery, president bush's friends and admirers decided it should be named in his honor for his patriotic devotion to the national constitution center into united states of america. we are grateful for governor bush taking of his father's example, and his engagement with the national constitution center. he is joined by his son, jeb jr. governor jeb bush. [applause] >> thank you. thank you all very much. thank you. if you can't get fired up about the declaration of independence and the constitution of the bill of rights, you just need to go back and learn how to get ired up. [laughter] the enth

bush on the ticket with him. a poll released from "the washington post" and abc news shows jeb bush leading the field of potential republican candidates. today, rush limbaugh was not exactly enthusiastic about jeb bush's announcement. >> you want to know why jeb bush is thinking of running? i'll give you, including the fact that he may actually want to be president. but he's also being looked at as a savior by the big money donor class and the consultant class, the establishment of the party to head off the tea party. they're going to pull out all the stops to make sure that a tea party type conservative doesn't get the nomination. >> joining me now, a former speech writer for george w. bush and senior editor for the atlantic magazine. and e.j. di onne for "the washington post" and msnbc political analyst. the good news for jeb bush is that rush limbaugh is against him. and in the past at this stage of republican campaigns, rush limbaugh is always against the person who ends up geing the nomination. >> well, look

the other part of the news jeb bush will release an ebook, that's how governor bush wants to run thepaign. mike murphy wants him to be disruptive if he runs and that means being on the web in a savvy way, publishing ebooks, being out there in policy. this to me is jeb bush gearing up. >> that's been a big question for jeb bush who hasn't run in more than a decade. can he adapt his personal style, he's a policy guy and also has some fights with his own base over immigration and education, but can he adapt his ways to the new world of politics? >> absolutely. this was an attempt to draw a contrast with the rest of the field as you point out clinton and also christie and show not only does he not have anything to hide but wants to put forward big ideas. it was beg, hairy awedicious goals, bhags was the acronym. if you think about it, if hillary clinton gets into the race which we expect she will and jeb gets into the race it will be a throwback, a clinton against a bush once again so that's an irony here. he is trying to be a new disruptive candidate but in a lot of ways this would be a

bush, are you supporting jeb bush? >> i'm sitting on the sidelines. i do know this from my association with the bushes. he said i will not make a decision -- i was at the beginning the one employee of the bush prepresidential campaign, our chairman was james a. baker iii, a young houston attorney. but the senior bush said, i'm not going to make a decision until after the 1978 election. and he didn't. then george bush said i won't make a decision after the 1998 election. and it wasn't until the time between christmas and new year's that he went away and made the decision. if jeb bush says i'm not going to make a decision until after the first of the year, we won't have a final decision until after the first of the year regardless of whether he did a leadership pac today. >> this is what he had to say that he won't change his views if he's going to run for the primary. >> if i was to run, i would try to persuade people -- i won't change what i believe. my beliefs, i think, are good, solid, mainstream conservative thought. winning with purpose, winning w

signed, george bush. [laughter] [applause] i understand president bush is watching so i know from everybody in this room today we send greetings, respect and salutations. that, gentlemen, the letter i just read from 41 mentions the uniqueness of having these four presidential centers come together. in fact, i think this is the first collaboration ever among presidential centers in an ongoing initiative. why did you decide to do this as a collaboration and why did you pick leadership as the theme? president bush? >> because. [laughter] he said keep it short, right? [laughter] hi, mom. anyway -- [laughter] because we have a lot of to offer. bill and i have become friends in the post-presidency. i admire his ability to communicate and lead. i know he wants his library to be relevant heading into the future as do i. i know 41 will. i have always admired president john johnson's leadership and i know these centers are tremendous assets that need to be used properly. i felt, and i know bill feels -- well i will

clinton versus bush again? we had a bush, defeated by a clinton, followed by another bush. and after obama, there's a clinton almost certainly running and now jeb bush, the son of that president, the brother of this one, is the first republican to formally say he's exploring a run. >> i have no clue if i would be a good candidate, i hope i would be. i think i could serve well as president, to be honest with you, but i don't know that, either. >> reporter: jeb bush has three big things going for him -- hispanics. he's fluent in spanish and married to a mexican-american. florida. he's the popular former governor of a must-win swing state. money. he's got support from the biggest republican donors. >> he knows i want him to run. if i need to reiterate it, i will. run, jeb. i think he'd be a great president. >> reporter: the bushes and clintons have actually become friends. but jeb's mother, the former first lady, has said, when it comes to running for president, there have been too many clintons and too many bushes. >> it just seemed to me ridiculous in a country this size tha

we know jeb bush is not afraid of chris christie. his chris christie intimidated by jeb bush?honestly have no idea. they exist in the same lane and bracket of the republican primary. mainstream, center-right candidates. christie was the biggest player in that lane. jeb is possibly entering it. it is definitely a challenge. >> paul ryan might run, yes or no? >> might run? yes. that is not exactly news. >> dan senor, thank you. tribute to stephen colbert. ♪ >> 110th street is considered the beginning of the end. stephen colbert, the most successful parody in television history, is dying. there is a week-long obituary being written on bloomberg.com. >> i'm standing outside the 54th street studio of the colbert report, where it will go to dark this week to prepare for stephen colbert to take over for david letterman. colbert has been more of a whimsical satirist than an angry activist. truthiness. his ability to explain orwellian language from the beginning first episode. >> anyone can read the news to you. i promise to feel the news at you. >> the correspondent dinner. colbert be

jed bush can use those to his advantage.egardless of that, you'll see and hear a lot about susanna martinez, the governor of new mexico. ted cruz, his second, george pae bush, land commissioner in texas that can help to mobilize, with his uncle george w. bush texas, which is a red state. a lot of interesting dynamics. ethnicity and spanish and latino vote will be front and center. >> what about the democrats and the reaction to bush running, given he was a popular governor in a state where if the republicans don't win, they election. >> he was a popular governor. calling him a centerist government is something that people have to be cautious about it. his record will come out probably as being something more conservative. compared to some running it is centerist. it's not typically centerist. what it is doing, what could happen in the primary, if his record of immigration is a problem, the democrats will be able to capitalize on that. there'll be a lot of fighting and republicans saying that he's too loose on immigration. if

coming up, samuel alito and jeb bush discussed the bill of rights. discussinglebrities health and social issues. [applause] >> i am so glad to welcome you tonight. bush,e alito, governor governor and mrs. corbett. david rubenstein, honored guests. i am jeffrey rosen. i'm the president of this institution, the national center, the only institution in america chartered by congress to disseminate information about the u.s. constitution on a nonpartisan basis. it is hard to imagine a more exciting milestone in the fulfillment of that inspiring mission than the one we celebrate tonight. 1789,ars ago, october george washington sent to the states 13 copies of the bill of rights and one to the federal government. 12 of those copies survived. today, one of them is returning to philadelphia. it will be displayed in the george h.w. bush gallery, which we are unveiling and previewing today in a beautiful exhibit. it will open to the public later this year. this display is made possible thanks to a historic agreement between the commonwealth of pennsylvania and t

the bush tax cuts have caused , s country a massive debt it's directly related to the bush tax cuts.ost: john with his feelings on the upcoming primary battle and where he's going to fall as an independent. how important are going to be the independent voters like john in this race? guest: they're always important, john, but in the primary, not as much. come the general election, it could be very important. guest: is that jeb bush's strategy here to not alienate the independent voters over the course of a republican primary? guest: absolutely. he said recently actually that republicans should be willing to lose the primary to win the general election. obviously practically speaking, that wouldn't quite work. but he means, of course, that republicans shouldn't pander so these at they alienate independents in the general election. a lot of republicans are unhappy with the way mitt romney did go a little bit to the right in 2012. they're kind of using that as their frame of reference for trying to be a little more moderate this time around. you can look at jeb bush to be that sort of ca

from 1980 on almost every election, there's been a bush. i think there's going to be a bush.'s going to come in second. i think he's going to lose to hillary. >> all right, bob sclump always great to visit. that's "the ed show." "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. good evening, rev. >> good evening, ed and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead speaker boehner is standing by a powerful house republican who spoke at a white soup remist convention in 2002. today, louisiana congressman, steve scalise, the third ranking republican in the house, confirmed that he spoke before the european american unity and rights

bush presidency that well. republicans who are pragmatic and say maybe we're not smart by nominating another bush and it's also republicans, don't forget, on the tea party right who explained away the election of 2008 who said george w. bush gave conservatism a bad name. that laid the ground work for barack obama. i think that's the real story. not even any commanding lead for jeb bush. at least not right now. latte or au lait? cozy or cool? exactly the way you want it ... until boom, it's bedtime! your mattress is a battleground of thwarted desire. enter the sleep number bed. save $300 on the final close-out of the c3 queen mattress set. he's the softy. his sleep number setting is 35. you're the rock, at 60. and snoring? sleep number's even got an adjustment for that. only at a sleep number store, find the lowest prices of the season, with the c3 queen mattress set only $1199.98. plus 24 month special financing on all beds. know better sleep with sleep number. introducing dance-all-you want new always discreet

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they are now racing to bush. i wonder, given all the questions about chris christie's temperament, how he will play in iowa and new hampshire, if you don't have wall street behind you, what is the christie candidacy rest on? >> exactly. >> it is a huge question. when we come back, more questions about the north korean hack attack. should we watch "team america" instead? and is anyone still listening to aaron sorkin? the editor in chief of "the wrap" will be with us, next. ♪ >> our guest tonight will not be able to watch "the interview," so she will give us an interview. sharon waxman, thank you for coming on the show. >> happy to be here. >> i was just asking, you just got a new peace online that talks about how sony bungled this from start to finish. do the anatomy of this moment, how sony has screwed this up. >> well, actually, both within hollywood and outside of hollywood, just the brunt of the most brutal criticism right now. it is not just the analysis i'm making. it is a pure observation. they have gone fr

mom. >> we've had enough bushes.s the best qualified person in the country. i would hope that someone else would run. >> reporter: whether his mother is into it or not, if the establishment lines up and the tea party is as divided as it was in 2012, the man some call a rino could also be called something else, the front-runner. >> jeb bush. >> reporter: for "this week," jonathan karl, abc news, washington. >> okay, let's talk about that now with our roundtable joined by cokie roberts, bill kristol, editor of "the weekly standard." democrat howard dean, former presidential candidate, governor of vermont and republican strategy ana navarro. i'll start with you. you're close to jeb bush and close to marco rubio. neither one getting out yet putting in a little bit of a tough position but did it surprise you that jeb got into this so early? >> actually it didn't and the reason it didn't is because he has been telling us for the longest time that he set a time line for himself for the end of the year, and this is one of th

president bush issuing 291. when you look at the memoranda as you are talking about, president obama 198, president bush 131. if you add them up president obama done more than president bush did, your thoughts. >> he is issuing executive memoranda at 20% rate higher than president bush and putting him on track to use combined executive order and executive memoranda using those more than any president since jimmy carter per year. this is example of how the president, president always gives bad news for example, on friday nights when the media is not paying much attention. heather: any politician shun does? >> the same minutes pill applies here he issues executive memoranda which typically get less attention, published in the congressional record, register, federal register and typically not as visible to the public and press as executive orders. immigration action was neural. it was high-profile. everybody knew what it was, the president put it out in form of not an executive order but memoranda. two of them in f

a lot of would-be candidates and rubio is waiting for bush.establishment waiting for him, both the fund-raising establishment, friends of the bush family, campaign aides and operatives. jeb bush was at a wall street journal conference this week and he sounded like a candidate but he says he's not quite there yet. >> i kind of know how a republican can win, whether it's me or someone else, and it has to be much more uplifting, much more positive, much more willing to, you know, to be practical now in a washington world, lose the primary to win the general without violating your principles. it's not an easy task, to be honest. >> i think what he meant there is lose the primary to win the general, meaning don't say things like self-deport. maybe stand up for jeb bush's views on immigration which is con temporary to the republican base, maybe stand up and stand up on the common core education standards. can you fight your party, stand up against your party on important issues like that and win? >> we have to take him although his word, it's imposs

it's now bush against the hard right. and a bush in the race ahead of a clinton.hael steele and joan walsh, both are msnbc political analysts. i want you both to talk about analysis first and then attitude. i'll start with joan now that you said yes. >> thanks, joan. >> when you look at this as a person who studies politics and has a view, what do you see happening because of this pretty much statement i'm running for president today out of nowhere it came? >> obviously he's trying to line up big donors behind him. there's been a lot of talk about the donors want to coalesce around someone. they don't want mitt to run against jeb against christie. he's stepped out, not waiting for someone to be anointed. so that's one thing. i this really does make it almost impossible for rubio to run, or certainly to win, or to run incredibly. jeb is leading him in florida. you know, he's more likely to beat hillary clinton even in the state of florida. so i think this really leaves rubio in the dust. i don't know what it does to the right-wing of the party. i believe that even

bush is resigning from the board of the tenant health care corporation.rmer florida governor announced last week that he's exploring a possible white house run. he also announced plans to release thousands of e-mails from his time ins office and some major newspapers have already gotten their hands on those e-mails an they shed some light on bush's political priorities. joining me now to talk about jeb bush and the 2016 presidential race, we have "time" magazine political reporter zeke miller and rebeccaburg, political correspondent for the washington examiner. the first question is how likely is it that jeb bush runs for president in 2016 and it kind of seems like it's gotten a lot more likely just in the last couple weeks? >> as you mentioned he resigned from the board of tenant. he has also resigned from the board of barclayss and as you said, he's actively exploring the idea. you can look back to 2010 when he was -- 2008 when thinking of running for senate in florida, and for a long time, there it also looked like he might consider running. he was tak

bush had, miss me yet?, because they showed true leadership and we have a president now -- >> you bring up immigration and that is a devicive issue, bush became a major advocate for immigration reform, his wife was mexican, lived in the state of florida, many cubans that live in the southern part of the state. kept getting re-elected. it's a republican state. that says a lot especially to those legal immigrants voting for him that clearly stand strong about illegal immigration in this country and they are here the way it should happen, they wait in line and get visas and become citizens if they choose or if they are granted that -- i don't necessarily think -- is going to be the issue that brings him down. >> here's the important distinction. it's one thing to be the governor of florida and have a position on comprehensive immigration reform. it's another thing to run for president and have to go through a very conservative set of primary states beginning with iowa, new hampshire, south carolina and have to

bush.aughter] >> my next question is -- [laughter] >> is there anything you wish somebody had taught you about leadership before you became a leader? i thought you were going to promote my book. >> you apsed that question. >> first of all, let me go back to the question you asked, oy agree. i don't think you can teach how mill ti or being secure or teach courage. i think you can get people two rules in their system. this program is aimed at people who have exhibited hep characteristics that you can't teach ap give them tools and confidence. i believe this is a confidence boost. go through this program. and other people, their age or in the same area of work and hey'll say, i think i can do more. i studied the presidents. they are going to discover, we are just normal people who got caught up through ambition, drive and circumstance who ended up being presidents and here are the tools. absolutely, you can teach leadership skills. eye you can teach leadership qualities. this program -- this c

colonel wilkerson, he is a bush administration official and you are a bush of administration official course, the menu worked for, colin powell, was a bush administration official, secretary of state. do you think that president bush , vice president cheney, george tenet, head of the cia him and others, should be held accountable for war crimes, should be actually charged? >> i have to say after all of my investigations, my students looking into the episodes through case studies and so forth, my own personal experience in that administration, i can only give think answer that is i utopian. i think it is far too optimistic. yes. but i don't think for a moment that it is going to happen. >> colonel, the senate report says 26 innocent people were caught up in the program. vice president cheney speaking , to nbc's "meet the press" last week, former vice president dick cheney was also asked about the report's finding that 26 of the 119 prisoners in the torture program were innocent. quick i'm more concerned with bad guys that got out and released than those who were in fact innocent. have%