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cupp on the right. >> and i'm van jones on the left.ight, obama care supporter tom pirielo and one of its opponents, nick gillespie. do you remember the fail whale? i do. do you remember back? back during the early days of twitter you would go on the site and this is what would come up. it's called the fail whale. it meant the site once again was down. i used to hate that thing. but you know what? nobody talks about it anymore. nobody even remembers it. because twitter works. they fixed the site. it's the same thing with the obama care web site. now true, it is embarrassing to have the fail whale hanging over the white house. but it will not be there forever. and when it's gone, millions of people are going to have much-needed health care. and that's something that everybody is going to remember. >> well van, the problem isn't just with the web site. older, sick people who desperately want health insurance will log on 25 times. they will call a toll-free number and sit and wait on a hotline. they will meet with navigators in person. but

cupp on the right.t a pair of freshmen congressmen who have just got an crash course in how things get done here in washington. the president took an opportunity today not to bring two political parties together or to assure the country that he will get us back on course. instead, he took swipes at republicans, lectured us about how government should work, and of course criticized washington. >> we know that the american people's frustration with what goes on in this town has never been higher. that's not a surprise. that the american people are completely fed up with washington. >> you know, van, the way the president always sniffs at washington dysfunction, you'd think he'd been living in duluth for the last six years. like he left for the weekend and came home and the kids had trashed the apartment. i mean, it really is sort of mind boggling. mr. president, this is your town. this is your congress. this is your mess! >> well, listen. no matter what this president does, you guys are going to knock him

cupp on the right. >> and i'm van jones on the left.in congress met with president obama for about an hour tonight. if i had been in the room, my message to the president would have been this. stand firm. we've already compromised enough. we precompromised our compromises. we gave away single payer already. that's a compromise. we gave away public option. and even with this c.r., we are rolling over and giving republicans 100% of the budget cuts that they want. $70 billion worth. that is a compromise. mr. president, don't cave and don't start giving away any more stuff. stick to what you told cnbc this afternoon. >> during the course of my presidency, i have bent over backwards to work with the republican party. and one thing that i know the american people are tired of, and i have to assume the vast majority of businesses are tired of, is this constant governing from crisis to crisis. so in that sense do we need to break that fever? absolutely. >> amen. >> so van, i get it. you want the president to stand his ground. i think you've got

cupp.omorrow for another edition of "crossfire." >>> welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. a glimmer of hope. word that republicans in congress may be considering a short term debt deal. and there's no time to waste. as you can sigh, the clock at the bottom of your screen shows we're counting down to that deadline pretty fast. it doesn't sound like president obama and speaker john boehner are quite ready to sing kumbaya yet. >> we can't make extortion part of our routine. democracy doesn't function this way.

cupp. join us tomorrow on "crossfire." erin burnett starts right now. >> outfront, news.se votes on three bill that they say could ease the shutdown pain. plus a deadly rock slide in colorado claims five members of the same family. in the midst of the tragedy, there was a heroic choice that saved one person's life. we are there live with that story. and who is to blame for this violent confrontation? this violent confrontation between a driver and a motorcycle gang. we'll show you the entire tape. let's go "outfront." >> good evening. i'm erin burn a

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on the right, se cupp.ross fire, edward mark where who blames republicans for the shutdown and john thune who criticizes president obama for not negotiating. guessing past stuck on stubborn tonight on cross fire. >> welcome to cross fire i'm s.e. cupp on the right. and i'm stuffstephanie cutter o right. speaker boehner didn't want to attach ted cruz's crazy commands to the budget but then he did. now he is denying there are enough votes in the house to reopen the government without those crazy ideological demands on obama care. listen to what he said on abc's "this week." >> you're not prepared to schedule a clean vote on government funding right now. >> there are not the votes in the house to pass a clean cr. >> well, there are. there are enough votes. every democratic member of the house plus 24 republicans have come out in favor of passing a clean cr and ending this shutdown. we could reopen the government today if speaker boehner would reopen the business of leadership in the house. we could end this ri

cupp on the right.dent obama and the democrats spent the day trying to paint the republicans as extremists. i think it's the other way around. insisting he won't negotiate on the debt ceiling? something that's routinely been negotiated is worse than political posturing. it's threatening to bring the company to the brink of default. >> i'm not budging when it comes to the full faith and credit of the united states. that has to be dealt with that you don't -- you don't pay a ransom you, don't provide concessions for congress doing its job. >> it is n't intellectually honest to say i will negotiate when i get everything i want. the american people support spending cuts. >> i think that's a really good try. [ laughter ] >> okay. >> however, for the president to get everything he wants, let's be clear about what we're talking about here. we're talking about congress doing its job, paying the bills that it's already racked up and turning the lights back on on the government. that's congress doing its job. we'

cupp, one of the big problems and dr.ser talked about this as well, one of the differences from medicare, this time around, you need young people to sign up. >> exactly. exactly right. there are two problems. one is the technological problems. millennials have never bought health insurance in the past. buy something that they don't think they need. in some cases, can't afford. that mechanical issue remains to be seen, the website rollout has affected that. but, culturally, it also reads, i have talked to a lot of millennials. an inability to speak their language. donna you might call an 800-number and sit on the phone. millennials aren't used to that. they don't meet in-person with insurance brokers or travel agents or anyone. they need a website that works, that gets them, that is easy, that is young-person approved and they're not going to be patient as the president and the administration tweaks all of that. >> i will have to disagree with s.e. it's not true that if young people don't sign up the program doesn't work.

cupp. erin burnett "outfront" right now. >> who should take the fall for the disastrous rollout?ebelius should be the one fired. plus, a doctor accused of killing his wife. was it murder or an accident? and a 14-year-old girl said she was raped by an older stoonl. the charges dropped but the girl's mother made secret recordings of the prosecutor. we'll play that for you. let's go "outfront." good evening. i'm erin burnett "outfront." we have some news. an official from the darrel o

cupp. in the crossfire.debbie stabinau, an obama care supporter and republican senator tom coburn who opposes it. obama care and the shutdown blame game tonight on "crossfire." >>> welcome to "crossfire." i'm van jones on the left. s.e. cupp on the right. day one of the government shutdown. and the world has not ended. tonight house republicans are offering a handful of bills aimed at funding portions of the government including military veterans. and once again president obama and congressional democrats are refusing to deal. only time will tell who will suffer adverse political consequences here, but republicans who vowed to do everything they could to stop or slow obama care have been true to their word. and since when is keeping an promise grandstanding? as speaker john boehner said, it's just an issue of fairness. >> the bill we passed on the house last night would have funded the government through december the 15th. and provide fairness to the american people under obama care. no exemptions, no except

cupp. >> and from the left i'm allen schweitzer. >> erin burnett starts right now. >>> america spyings closest friends. more questions about which world leaders are targeted by the nsa, and why the president claims he knew nothing about it. >>> plus a massive man hunt under wray tonight. prisoners off the run after taking an unusual escape

cupp. join us monday for another edition of "crossfire."rnett "outfront" starts right now. >> outfront, the government shutdown. speaker john boehner says this isn't, quote, some damn game. has president obama won or not? and the woman who charged the barricade at the white house. we have new clues as to why she did it. we have new video and also crucial new information about what was going on in her head. and deadly hornets coming to america. yes. those are deadly. they're here. let's go "outfront."

cupp. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. >>> "outfront," a bloody battle shut down the government. wait, the deal is full of pork? plus the onset of terror. never before seen video of the horrific shooting in the mall. >>> and wrongly accused? >> there is a lot on the line. >> incredibly scary. let's go "outfront." >> good evening, everyone.

cupp on the right. >> do you remember the fail whale? i do. do you remember that? back during twitter, the early days of twitter, and this would come up, it's called the fail whale and admit that once again the site was down. used to hate that thing. but you know what? nobody talks about it anymore. nobody remembers it, because twitter works. they fixed the site. it's the same thing with the obama care web site. truly it is embarrassing to have the fail whale hanging over the white house, but it will not be there forever. and when it's gone, millions of people are going to have much needed health care. and that's something that everybody's going to remember. >> well, the problem isn't just with the website. older sick people who desperately want health insurance will log on 25 times. they will call a toll frenum and sit and wait on a hotline. they will meet with navigators in person. but the young, healthy people required to make obama care work will not. they require immediacy. they require brilliance. and they're not going to tolerate a series of glitches for ver

cupp on the right.epublicans as extremists. i think it's other way around, insisting he won't negotiate on the debt ceiling? something that's routinely been negotiated is worse than posturing. it's threatening to

cupp on the right.epublicans as extremists. i think it's other way around, insisting he won't negotiate on the debt ceiling? something that's routinely been negotiated is worse than posturing. it's threatening to bring the country to the brink of default. >> i'm not budging when it comes to the full faith and credit of the united states, that that has to be dealt with, that you don't, you don't pay a ransom, you don't provide concessions for congress doing its job. >> it isn't intellectually honest or productive to say i'm willing to negotiate but not until i get everything i want. republicans are right to insist on negotiations. they're right to insist on spending cuts. and the american people support them. >> i think that's a really good try. >> okay. >> however, for the president to get everything he wants, let's be clear about what we're talking about here. we're talking about congress doing its job, paying the bills that it's already wracked up and turning the lights back on in the government. that

cupp. join us tomorrow for another edition of "crossfire." >> occasionally chop it off but i usually belief in sticking by people, particularly when they are in trouble. in balance you develop a lot of loyalty with people that way and there is some people that where it goes beyond the point you can stick with them but try to stick with them. >> you judge a man, many people say, by his family, by his sons, his grandchildren, when you look down the line here, what do you feel about these two guys? >> i would love to be judged by the two howards. i feel very good about that. fortunately, they got their mother's genes. >> for viewers tuning in, they know you warren but may not be familiar with hw. give me an assessment. >> it started slow. [ laughter ] >> i think for the first two or three years we thought about putting him up for adoption. but he has developed into a terrific human being and i love backing him in charitable work and he's done the same with his son. >> there is a reason i feel

cupp. >>> if i may with your reaction to this whole obamacare business in a particular, kathleen sebelius, a business decision. should the president sticks with someone who has presided over a business failure in terms of the implementation of obamacare? >> i am a friend of hers and when she is in trouble, speaking on behalf of this team, i like her. i feel sorry for her and the position she is in. it is a huge screwup it will get worked out. >> do you prefer historical we with your people to stick by somebody when they have had a rocky. believing they will be even more determined to succeed or sometimes you just have >> occasionally chop it off but to chop it off. i usually belief in sticking by people, particularly when they are in trouble. in balance you develop a lot of loyalty with people that way and there is some people that where it goes beyond the point you can stick with them but try to stick with them. >> you judge a man, many people say, by his family, by his sons, his grandchildren, when you look down the line here, what do you feel about these two guys? >> i would love to be

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cupp. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. >>> "outfront," a bloody battle shut down the government. wait, the deal is full of pork? plus the onset of terror. never before seen video of the horrific shooting in the mall. >>> and wrongly accused? >> there is a lot on the line. >> incredibly scary. let's go "outfront." >> good evening, everyone. markets celebrate while ted cruz quadruples down. the s&p 500 hit a new high thanks to the deal with the debt ceiling but this fight isn't over. all the country got last night was another short term deal and an aide to senator ted cruz has just told cnn and dana bash that they have not ruled out another shutdown in another couple months. that came after president obama took to the lectern to slam, remind congress of what they did. >> let's be clear. there are no winners here. these last few weeks have inflicted completely unnecessary damage on our economy. to all my friends in congress, understand that how business is done in this town has to cha

cupp. >> and from the left i'm allen schweitzer. >> erin burnett starts right now. >>> america spying on its closest friends. more questions about which world leaders are targeted by the nsa, and why the president claims he knew nothing about it. >>> plus a massive man hunt under wray tonight. prisoners off the run after taking an unusual escape route. >>> let's go out front. >>> and good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. out front tonight. breaking news under pressure. the obama administration has just authorized the release of more details about the american government's collection of telephone data. the director of national intelligence, james clapper just said this in a statement. their declassification is not done lightly. i have determined, however, that the harm to national security from the release of these documents is outweighed by the public interest. now clapper and other officials are all going to be testifying in detail about this program on capitol hill tomorrow. the white house, though, so far has begged ignorance. but what exactly is the president's role? here's wh

cupp. join us tomorrow for another edition of "crossfire." >>> welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. a glimmer of hope. word that republicans in congress may be considering a short term debt deal. and there's no time to waste. as you can sigh, the clock at the bottom of your screen shows we're counting down to that deadline pretty fast. it doesn't sound like president obama and speaker john boehner are quite ready to sing kumbaya yet. >> we can't make extortion part of our routine. democracy doesn't function this way. >> what the president said today if there is unconditional surrenderer he'll talk to us. that's not the way it works. >> tonight i'll talk to the real people who are paying the pretty awful price for that lack of work. also, two congress women go led to head on capitol hill. plus my power panel of experts and i mean surging power tonight, josh bower, kelly an and more and democrats may not be talking yet but we most certainly are. hopefully, we can

cupp. join us tomorrow for another edition of "crossfire." >>> this is "piers morgan live." welcome to the viewers in the quite and around the world. tonight, back in business. >> it highly unfortunate that it happened in the first place, but it's good to be back. >> parks to memorials and yes, panda cameras, the government finally reopens but the cost of consequences and all that anger were lost. let's listen to the president today. >> you don't like a particular policy, or a particular president, then argue for your position. go out there and win an election. push to change it but don't break it. >> so what is the say and who is in charge of the gop anyway? i'll take that up with anthony weiner, ben ferguson and ralph and more fireworks later with star jones and edie hill and where is avonte. the search for the teen that disappeared from his school. avonte's mother joins me live. >>> the big story, the reopening of the government. senator, welcome. are you exhausted? how are you feeling after all of this? >> i drove to west virginia today, piers, so i'm feeling very good r

cupp. join us monday for another edition of "crossfire." erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. >> outfront, the government shutdown. speaker john boehner says this isn't, quote, some damn game. has president obama won or not? and the woman who charged the barricade at the white house. we have new clues as to why she did it. we have new video and also crucial new information about what was going on in her head. and deadly hornets coming to america. yes. those are deadly. they're here. let's go "outfront." good evening, everyone. washington gives up. absolutely nothing worthwhile seem to be going on in our nation's capital. there were theatrics in washington today. name calling but no progress toward ending a new four-day old government shutdown. dana bash is on capitol hill. jim acosta is at the white house. i'll start with you. the only real question at this point, name calling, sure, name calling galore. is there any end in sight to this? >> reporter: no, there really does not look like there is an end in sight any time soon. this gove

cupp. erin burnett "outfront" right now. >> who should take the fall for the disastrous rollout? some say kathleen sebelius should be the one fired. plus, a doctor accused of killing his wife. was it murder or an accident? and a 14-year-old girl said she was raped by an older stoonl. the charges dropped but the girl's mother made secret recordings of the prosecutor. we'll play that for you. let's go "outfront." good evening. i'm erin burnett "outfront." we have some news. an official from the darrel of health and human services confirming to cnn that the glitch filled website will be coming down for maintenance. this comes on the same day new problems were expose asked the official from the health and human services said kathleen sebelius will not be available to answer questions at a congressional hearing next week on what went wrong. i can tell you at this moment, we have just found out that this health and high school services secretary. i'm here at my blackberry, has time on appear at the inaugural kennedy forum gala the night before in boston. so she'll be in boston at a gal

cupp. join us >>> this is cnn breaking news. >>> >>> this is "piers morgan live." welcome to the viewers in the united states and around the world. tonight, breaking news, of course, shut down showdown or rather shut down stalemate. listen to john boehner and harry reid a while ago after the meeting with the president. >> we've asked to sit down and resolve our differences. they don't want -- they will not negotiate. >> i said fine, we'll go to conference. all we want you to do is open the government. >> the government of the united states of america, still closed. 800,000 americans out of work and millions more suffering the effects of the shut down. i'll talk to some on those including a cancer patient supposed to start a trial and a worker who has no idea when she'll see her next paycheck. and a new york a -- new yorker who has already lost 50% of his business. also, two congressman who couldn't disagree more go head-to-head and i'll get answers from one of america's top ceos, jack walsh. he is here to say why the leadership is sorely lacking on both sides. >>>

cupp. join us tomorrow on "crossfire." erin burnett starts right now. >> outfront, news. the house votes on three bill that they say could ease the shutdown pain. plus a deadly rock slide in colorado claims five members of the same family. in the midst of the tragedy, there was a heroic choice that saved one person's life. we are there live with that story. and who is to blame for this violent confrontation? this violent confrontation between a driver and a motorcycle gang. we'll show you the entire tape. let's go "outfront." >> good evening. i'm erin burnett and i want to begin with breaking news that we have out here. coming on cnn from florida. this is a live picture of the jacksonville international airport. we're not in control of this camera. this airport is completely evacuated. there are no active operations at this time. amidst reports of multiple suspicious packages, according to the airport spokesperson, debby jones. i want to emphasize this jacksonville airport is one of the busiest cargo airports in the entire united states of america. a very busy cargo cente

cupp is here as well. we'll bring in our correspondents as well. gloria, very quickly to you. i did not hear the president budge on the key issue right now as far as the speaker of the house john boehner is concerned. boehner says we have to negotiate the debt ceiling resolution. we have to negotiate raising -- ending the government shutdown. the president basically saying all that is up for negotiation, but not within the context of these two ransom demands as he calls them. >> this was not an olive branch kind of press conference. this was the president sort of hanging for a minute. if he were to do a word cloud about the words the president was using at this press conference, it would be hostage, ransom, nuclear bomb, insane, catastrophic, chaos. just a few of the words he was using. he did indicate that he thought john boehner ought to hold a vote today, pass a clean resolution, and then he said, look, i'm willing to talk to you about anything afterwards. there seem to be a little wiggle room on whether there could be a short-term continuing resolution and debt ceiling, wr

cupp and emmy award winning political analyst, my friend, jeff greenfield. welcome one and all. noonan writes about the possible forced resignation of sebelius. she writes quote, yes, a firing would be good democratic form and would acknowledge the idea of accountability, someone or some persons failed on a historic level and were removed, it would take some heat off the white house, look, we're doing something. so it's surprising they haven't done it and odd that republicans are clamoring for it. do you think the white house needs a sacrificial lamb for this or are we in a place in politics where that's not necessary anymore? >> i think we're almost at the point where even casual political observers understand the essentially phony nature of so much which passes for indignation in washington. the last time i can recall, one of the only times i can recall a cabinet member removed for policy failure was when george bush cashiered donald rumsfeld. most of the time this is a contest between mutual indignation. i guess the question you would want to ask is do we think that if kathle

cupp on the right.ring two political parties together or to assure the dun he will get us back on course, instead he lectured us about how government should work and of course, criticized washington.

cupp for the right. thank you both for being here. s.e., why are we are where we are?hat was done before we got here, we are here to fight to make it stop. >> yep. exactly. people like steve king, people like ted cruz, rand paul, marco rubio, mike lee, they didn't manifest out of thin air, they won elections based on these promises to end obama care, promises to fight over the debt ceiling, promises to cut spending and lower the deficit, and they really do believe, they are true believers they could believe they are merely fulfilling those promises. call them grand standers, you can discuss whether the strategy is smart or not, but they really do believe they're doing what they promised to voters and when they go home to their districts, when they go home to their states they are rewarded at town halls and at their offices by voters who say thank you for standing up for us. so there's really no political price for them to pay for doing what they're doing. there might be a political price for republicans at large, but not for them. >> so van jones how do you make the ca

cupp on the right. you probably have heard about it.etween democrats and republicans, it's over the flame of washington redskins. listen to what bob costas said