drip drip of stories continues. it's 5:30 on the east coast, 2:30 out west, this is "way too early." ♪ good morning. it's monday september 28th. i'm jonathan capehart. the slow drip of reports on hillary clinton's i mails continues. new string of e-mails emerged between the secretary of state and general petraeus. here's what she told chuck todd over the weekend on "meet the press." >> everything we had access to you was out there. the e-mail train was on a government server. from my perspective, we have a very thorough review process that we conducted, and my attorneys supervised it they went through everything and what we had available at the time was turned over. there was a transition period. i went that he focused on my e-mail account to be clear here. >> let me stop you there. >> yes. >> you say you weren't focused on it. >> right. >> this seemed to be to put an e-mail server at your house is a complicated thing. >> but it was already there. it had been there for years, it is the system that my husband's perso

whole sort of drip, drip, drip. in the beginning she said i only had had one device for convenience. it turned out she had two. she had an ipad. maybe she didn't think that was a device. then she deletes some of the pages. she has got to know that is going to cause all sorts of trouble. >> the drip, drip, drip you think about that's all other own creation. back in the beginning when they turned over the emails in december they turned them over for paper format. first five months redij advertising them back into a digital format. we could have been five months more advance. they could have taken care of it before hot political summer if she had turned over the electronic copies that we know she has because they are on that flash drive now. they this is all a problem of her own making. several federal judges saying look the entire problem here is hillary clinton use of this private servinger, the arrange. she she did. the drip, drip is going to continue because you have those federal judges out there prodding the 17 f

. >> this is the drip, drip, drip, that is never going to stop dripping.a lot of democrats who are now sort of resigned with the fact they will live with this low to high level anxiety for the foreseeable future, maybe forever. there is some hope that the benghazi hearings will determine when she goes to testify in front of the benghazi committee whether this is truly fatal and there is still time for somebody else to get in, namely joe biden, this happens at the end of september, but if not, the anxiety just sits there and becomes a problem. >> and the senator put out this statement, the justice department gave us less information when they should give us more. it is getting absurd when somebody at the justice department is leaking information that the department refuses to admit that it is conducting. in light of the details the committee will seek more information about the state department's attempts to gain possession about the e-mail records that should have remained at the fbi in the first place. they will give clarity on how to handle the e-mails n

instead, drip, drip, drip. >> with respect to personal services that he provided to me and my family, we obviously paid for those services, and did so, because during a period of time, we continued to need his technical assistance, and i think that's in the public record. >> jeff zeleny, help me out. she said in the end after she testifies in congress, after reporters keep asking and asking. we see a conclusion, bad judgment call. she should have had two e-mail accounts but did nothing wrong. why not months ago say, my last name is clinton, congress is investigating this. congress is investigating this. i'm running for president. put out a 10, 15, 20-page report. here's the day it was installed. here's the guy who did it. we paid him on the side. why not put it out in the beginning? >> because she's hillary clinton and she's in a lawyerly-like position. every answer she's givenen whether press conference or interview friday. she sounds like hillary clinton, the lawyer. she's technicalliy right on all of these things. it was a partisan witch hunt. remember in march the conversation, it

, drip, drip. that is why i said there is only so much i can control. i will provide more transparency. i'm happy to do that. i want these questions to be answered. i can't predict to you what the republicans will come up with or what kind of charges or claims they might make. i have no control over that. i can only do the best i can to try to respond. >> clinton called the republican suggestions she used the private e-mail server for information for requests totally ridiculous. >>> and john boehner blasting conservatives as false prophets. boehner speaking on "face the nation" two days after his shocking announcement he is stepping down at the end of october. he lashed out at conservative groups and lawmakers who quote whip people into a frenzy and promising things they know are never going to happen. >> the bible says be aware of false prophets. there are people out there spreading noise about how much can get done. this idea we will shutdown the government to get rid of obamacare in 2013. this p

>> well, it is like a drip-drip-drip and that's why i said there's only so much i can control. but what i have tried to do in explaining this is to provide more transparency and more information than anybody i that i'm aware of has ever served in the government and i'm happy to do that. i can't predict to you what the republicans will come up with, what kind of charges or claims they might make. i have no control over that. i can only do the best i can to try to respond. the justice department has the e-mails, they have the server. they're conducting a security inquiry. they will take whatever necessary steps are required to get this matter resolved? >> can you say with 100% certain they the deleted e-mails that the fbi won't find anything there that will cause you to have to explain again? >> all i can tell you is that when my attorneys conducted this exhaustive process i do not participate. >> why? >> i didn't look at them. >> i would want to know what e-mails. why wouldn't you want to know? >> i wanted them the to be as clear in their process as possible. i didn't want to be

, drip, drip. >> reporter: that drip, drip, drip is leaving an opening for new drama in the democraticrimary fight. a new poll shows clinton still leading the race but far from comfortably. she runs ahead of bernie sanders by only seven points in a new "the wall street journal"/nbc news poll. joe biden is trailing both potential rivals by double digits. if biden stays out of the race, clinton climbs to 15 points over sanders. but that remains the $10,000 question hanging over the race, what is biden going to do? his end of summer deadline has come and gone. his aides say he's still weighing his decision. today in chicago sanders drew cheers for his call for change. >> american democracy is not supposed to be about billionaires buying elections. not supposed to be about super pacs collecting huge amounts of money from the wealthiest people in this country having more power over candidates' campaign than the candidate himself or herself. >> reporter: that of course was a not so veiled reference to clinton. >> thank you. >> reporter: who's on a three-day fund raising tour in california. a

tariq, take it from the top. >> tariq: drip dribbity drip drip drip. dribbity drip drop. my man chris christie threw his hat into the ring he wants to be president i guess that's his thing yeah, 2016 is his holy grail it's also what he sees when he looks at the bathroom scale damn. [ cheers ] >> steve: ha-ha-ha, now that's some higgie pudding! that's exactly why i deserve 50% of this show. questlove saved that joke. >> jimmy: he might have saved the joke, but what about his little secret? >> steve: oh, what's the matter, juicy? you afraid to get jiggy with the higgie? [ laughter ] >> jimmy: higgie, you're being an ass. >> steve: oh, oh, i'm not an ass. this is an ass. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: oh, hey, terrance. >> hey, jim. [ cheers and applause ] how you doing? >> jimmy: great. >> good, good, good. look, i want to talk to you about something serious. i know y'all do these parodies on your show. >> jimmy: oh, thank you. >> well, no, thank you. no. don't do one of "empire." >> jimmy: no. [ laughter ] no. we wouldn't. yeah. >> you sure? >> jimmy: i wouldn't. do --

so it is a drip, drip, drip problem, but the stocks, they got slammed it. wasn't a drip of a decline. >> no. and that makes for opportunity. and again you have to focus on the guys that have a lot of content within the cable mechanism. i think twx is the most interesting play because you have hbo and the turner element of this that i think is very undervalued. i like it. >> netflix, the move down on august 24th was concerned. but the subsequent move to 118 and this move to 95 is worse. kudos to tim who has been on this. i think there is tremendous value in netflix but the stock is clearly telling you something over the last week and a half or so. disney, steve levels 96.5, 97 and stabilized there and trading at that level. >> and when you talk about the skinny bundle, disney will be part of it. and time warner will be part of the skinny bundle. to think it is all or nothing is a bad way to analyze it. they have great seats at the table. i personally own disney and i'm looking to the bounce back at $110 level. >> and i want to buy around $100. and i might us

drip, drip, drip. doesn't go away. new revelations coming out every week.voters what the first word they associate with her. >> they said liar. >> dishonest. liar. untrustworthy. it's a problem already. not in the future. it is now. >> paul what about the poll, first word people are using to describe hillary clinton, liar. >> the only other politician whose numbers on trust worthiness are as high is donald trump. he hasn't had months and months of congressional attacks. i want what is fair is fair. >> untrustworthy numbers have radically changed? >> they have among republicans. i don't believe they have. i will check. check on it. you may be entirely right. my point though is i want fair treatment across the board. why haven't jeb's taken a dive. nobody points out for example that jeb bush had a private e-mail account as governor as well as well as governmental one. 280,000 e-mails. >> he doesn't have classified information? >> classified -- he helped rig and steal the 2000 election. he hasn't released one e-mail from that one. a lot more important. than wh

, drip, drip of stories continues.on the east coast, 2:30 out west, this is "way too early." ♪ good morning. it's monday, september 28th. i'm jonathan capehart. the slow drip of reports on hillary clinton's i mails continues. new string of e-mails emerged between the secretary of state and general petraeus. here's what she told

because of the drip drip drip. but that is the process now. at the end of the dripping, like the fake stand down order in benghazi, this will be a fake scandal. that will have done its job. >> benghazi is a fake scandal? >> benghazi in terms of stand down. >> tell that to the families of the -- >> don't give me that family stuff. >> don't give me that? >> we know there was no stand down order in benghazi ever given. we know that. she was battered over the head for months with that. >> she went to the families -- >> very specific. we basically allege that this woman and the man she was working for, barack obama, stood by idly when these four people were murdered, did nothing which was a lie. we never apologized to her for that. >> the lie is the video. >> we would still love to hear from general hamm. so jedediah, these e-mails will likely be released into these primaries. is this time thing that eventually she says enough is enough? >> i think the democrats are most worried about the way she's handled the issue. that the way she's handled it.

well, it is like a drip, drip, drip. >> reporter: now explaining again why e-mails surfaced dated twoonths earlier than clinton initially said she set up the personal account. >> explain that. >> there was a transition period. you know, i wasn't that focused on my e-mail account. >> reporter: clinton has turned over 55,000 pages of emails from her personal account dating back to march, 2009. today her campaign acknowledged she sent emails as early as january of that year. the explanation -- she started using the account before the server was officially set up at her home. >> every phrase and every sentence that she utters is examined minutely by the press, by her critics, by everyone, and that makes it hard for her to kind of tamp down on the controversy. >> reporter: her new weapon -- her husband, who's set to play a bigger role in the campaign. >> it really is similar to the strategy that the republicans employed against me with whitewater. it's -- they look at the field and say who do we not want to run against. >> reporter: for her part, clinton is also focusing on policy and poin

, drip, drip.y so much i can control. what i have tried to do and explaining this is to provide more transparency and more information than anybody i'm aware of who has serve in the government and i'm happy to do that. i want these questions to be answered. i can't predict to you what the republicans will come up with and what kind of charges or claims they might make. i have no control. i can only do the best i can to try to respond. >> clinton called republican suggestions she used the private e-mail server to avoid the freedom of information requests or subpoenas ridiculous. >>> house majority leader john boehner blasting right wing republicans in congress as false prophets who press for doomed strategies. john boehner speaking on "face the nation" two days after his announcement he is stepping down at the end of october. he lashed out at conservative groups and lawmakers who quote whip people into a frenzy promising things they know will never happen. >> the bible says be aware of false prophet

every day it's like a drip, drip, drip. it's like you got sentenced.ere tomorrow, i know i would not come back. i honestly say if i got there tomorrow i know i would not come back. i don't deserve to come back tomorrow. i can honestly tell you, unless i go to the parole board and i'm 43, i would tell them, i don't deserve to be back out there because i took a life. karma really has something to give me, i'm going to take it. >> armstrong may be killing time behind bars, but he hasn't lost his passion for current events. >> i read newspapers, magazines. i get "tv guide," "xxl," "rolling stone," "newsweek," "blender." i get nine periodicals. i was going to major in english and political science. if i didn't make it in basketball, i wanted to be a political columnist. like george will -- not necessarily his politics. sorry george. i watch abc news, i see george stephanopoulos talking. i see that dude on fox, the a-hole. >> bill o'reilly? >> yeah. bill o'reilly. and i see your colleague, tom brokaw. that's what i wanted to get into. i love politics. you kn

. >> there is a drip drip drip, and like i said, there's only so much i can control. >> reporter: new signs that the drips are hurting. the latest poll of democratic primary voters shows clinton has lost ground to bernie sanders. she leads him by just seven points, 43 to 35%, a big drop from previous polls. >> i have done all that i can to, you know, take responsibility. >> reporter: but today clinton struggled to explain the discoveries of a string of work e-mails sent on her personal account, earlier than she said she had used the address. >> you said in march that the e-mail system began in march of '09, yet we have the same e-mail address in january. explain that discrepancy. >> there was a transition period. i wasn't that focused on my e-mail account, to be clear. >> reporter: she brushed aside the notion that she set up the account to esaid oversight, calling that story ridiculous. she said it was done out of convenience. >> it is the system that my husband's personal office used when he got out of the white house, so it was sitting there in the basement. >> reporter: meanwhile,

. >> it's a drip, drip, drip. there's only so much i can control. but what i've tried to do is provide more transparency and information than anyone else. >> reporter: and she says tax cuts will keep jobs in america. david? >> tom llamas on the campaign trail for us tonight. thank you. >>> and after his bombshell announcement that he's leaving congress, john boehner back in this news. declaring there will be no government shutdown over defunding planned parenthood. passing a short-term funding bill with the help of democrats. and something else he's said getting a lot of attention. >> the bible says beware of false prophets. we have groups, members of the house and senate in town, whipping people into a frenzy promising things they know will never happen. >>> from baltimore, a major development in the case of freddie gray. six baltimore police officers now charged in connection with his death. now, the baltimore sun reporting, gray asked for medical help in the van, and some suspected he was faking his injuries to avoid going to jail. >>> and in ari

but nevertheless, this continues the drip drip drip of a phenomenon of a story that has plagued hillarynton and seen the trust in her as reflected in the publicle proking really waning on the democratic side. >> a lot of it day-to-day, and prosaic kind of messages. there's some conversations in a serious vain transition awaying from that, looking for a read out about efforts to pursue talks with iran over it's nuclear program, of course those just coming to a conclusion, but they are also kind of more mundane or silly or odd as much has been noted. messages coming from hillary clinton of a personal nature, back and forth with many of her close aids. ten no major political damage here, but 150 of them have been redacted as you pointed out because they are deemed to be confidential, and of course the controversy continues over the fact that she used her private email server to conduct any kind of official business whatsoever. while secretary of state. >> all right. let's just leave it there. until there's something that stands out for you. mike, thank you. >>> president obama will hike a

(laughter) chuck asked her at some point is this just a drip, drip, drip? said, yeah, there is going to be another release to the state department rate there are week on wednesday and come october 22, there will be the big ben ghazi committee hearing, and there is no telling whether that's really going to be the end of it. >> woodruff: but does her campaign, amy, think they just have to slog through this no matter what? >> yes, it's her body language when she acknowledged the drip, drip, drip, there is a resignation to her fate. the i didn't control this, i don't know what's going to come of it. she can hope two things -- one, it doesn't go in the legal program, stays in the political realm. and, two, that eventually the media and the voters and the public get bored with this story and it goes away but that's not anytime soon and certainly not before the first of october. >> woodruff: house speaker pgh john boehner is stepping down. he did an interview with john dickerson on "face the nation." we heard boehner spell out who some of the don servets are who l

the campaign has not done that you have had this drip drip drip. now we are in this scenario of the monthlily release of emails reminds us of that she has lost control of the story. >> all right. there is breaking news. the a.p. is now reporting emails russian hackers tried to break five times into her email -- into her private server. that's a.p. is reporting. breaking news just crossing seconds ago that russian hackers tried five times. >> wow she has held out the security of her own email. >> tried is a little different than accomplish in one sense. if there? i good news for us the a.p. breaking news is that they tried five times. >> and didn't get it i don't know what else. certainly shows the vulnerability. certainly shows she is a target and the reasonable why you need to have a secure email server. >> that is going to raise the questions from critics of this all along. had you this private server opening up potentially to jurent vulnerabilities from foreign governments trying to hack into it without the security of the federal government mon

with biden's campaign pending, hillary clinton calls it the drip-drip-drip of her e-mail controversy. >> reporter: hillary clinton said it was her lawyers who reviewed the 63,000 e-mails on her private server and deleted 30,000 of them. >> when my attorneys conducted this exhaustive process, i did not participate. when the process was finished, my attorney said, what do you want to do with all these personal e-mails? i said, i don't need to keep them. >> can you respond to an alternative explanation -- >> another conspiracy theory? >> well, you want to make it a little more difficult for congressional investigators to subpoena your government e-mails and a little more freedom of request. is that fair or no? >> it's totally ridiculous. that never crossed my mind. >> reporter: former president clinton called the e-mail an act of harassment. >> in the beginning of the year, she was the most admired person in public life and she earned it. why, because she was being covered by people who reported on what she was doing. >> reporter: vermont senator bernie sanders returned to his alma mater

there will be a release of these e-mails every month, drip, drip, drip.s coming across stiff, awkward, defensive and i think joe biden is like george c. scott and patton. he looks at the smoldering battlefield and says, god help me i love it so. i think he wants to do this. i think he wants to get in and i predict he will get in. >> look at the "washington post" post poll. they released a favorable and unfavorable on the candidates. hillary clinton among registered voters 46, 56% unfavorable. joe biden 46% favorable. 49 unfavorable. donald trump 40 favorable, 58 unfavorable. jeb bush, virtually identical to trump, 38 favorable, 57 unfavorable. joy reid, it is hard to read in to that who has what kind of good news in those numbers. they don't look great for anybody. >> they are not great for anybody. i'm sitting here in a state where the most unpopular governor in the country, rick scott, who you can't find anyone who says they are a fan of just got re-elected. i think what the clinton would tell you, no matter what her favorables look like she is in a com

. >> it's a drip, drip, drip. and as i said, there's only so much i can control. but what i've tried to do is provide more transparency and more information than anybody that i'm aware of that's ever served in the government. >> reporter: tomorrow, donald trump will introduce his tax plan, saying it will benefit the middle class and also the corporations that keep jobs in america. >> tom, thank you. >>> and after his bombshell announcement that he's leaving congress, john boehner back in the news because of what he's now saying. just days after his surprise announcement, he's now declaring there will be no government shutdown over defunding planned parenthood. passing a short-term funding bill with the help of democrats. and something else he's said getting a lot of attention. aimed at the majority he tried to lead. >> the bible says beware of false prophets. we have groups here in town, members of the house and senate in town, whipping people into a frenzy believing they will accomplish they know will never happen. >> saying they're unrealistic about how much a r

, drip, drip.t of the reason it is is because every month through the end of the year, there will be another batch of e-mails. we don't know ahead of time what's in them and, really, neither fully does she. it generates a few days of stories, and it's a bit of a wild card. it sort of prolongs the time at the point at which she could maybe put some of this behind her. >> i want to ask you about the poll. one of the people rising in the poll is marco rubio. does he become the de facto establishment republican candidate if the party believes jeb bush cannot really campaign aggressively enough? >> i was going to say jeb bush hopes not, but yes. what jeb bush has had going for him always was, okay, fiorina, carson, trump, sure, but at some point, it's going to be one of the outsider candidates, maybe ted cruz, against an establishment candidate and i'm the establishment candidate that can last because of the money i've raised. he still have the money. $100 million in it. they're on tv right now, new ham

something she acknowledged for the first time on "meet the press." >> it is like a drip, drip, drip. that's why i said there's only so much i can control. >> reporter: clinton again said she regrets using a personal account while serving as secretary of state but struggled to explain the discovery of several work e-mails sent on her personal account earlier than she had said she used the address. >> you said in march that the e-mail system began in march of '09. yet we have this same e-mail address popping up in january. >> i wasn't focused on my e-mail account. >> reporter: the republican national committee said sunday clinton continues to mislead the american people. it's all taking a toll. the latest nbc news/"wall street journal" poll of democratic primary voters nationwide says clinton has lost ground to vermont senator bernie sanders. a big drop from previous polls. the controversy also overshadowing the clinton family charity's annual meeting in new york where former president bill clinton blamed republicans and the media. >> i actually am amazed that she has borne up under it

, drip, drip.ou're political opponents want to try to make you look bad every single day. but enough is enough, andrea. every single e-mail she sent or received did not have classified material in it at the time she sent or received it. the policy was allowed by the state department. no one has given out more personal information or e-mails than hillary clinton under the same circumstances. and frankly, it is outrageous that we are not spending more time talking about the things that hillary clinton wants to champion. increasing the minimum wage, making student loans affordable -- >> senator, with all due respect, isn't this a self-inflicted wound? it was a mistake. she acknowledges that. she should have had a government and a private system. she was doing national security communications, whether classified or not, at the time. on a private system that could be hacked with a server in her basement. and she's made herself vulnerable to these attacks. >> that's why i give her credit for acknowledgin

it is like a drip drip drip. >> now she's explaining why why e-mails surfaced dating two months earlier than clinton saying she set up the account. >> there was a transition period. i wasn't that focused on my e-mail account. >> her campaign acknowledged she sent e-mails as early as january that year. the explanation, she started using the account before the server was officially sed up at her hope. >> every phrase and sentence she utters is examined minutely by press, critics, by everyone. and that makes it hard for her to kind of tamp down on the controversy. >> her new weapon, her husband. >> it really is similar to the strategy that the republicans employed against me with white water. they look at the field and say what do we not want to run against. >> and he's a pretty busy guy. i don't know anything like that. but i'm not looking -- i'm not counting my chickens before they hatch. >> lawmakers on capitol hill have just two days left to come one a spending plan that would avert a government shut down. meanwhile house republicans will meet behind closed doors to discuss their futur

>> well, this has been a drip, drip, drip and that's another pretty large drip.ing "i'm taking the fifth" when people hear that they say "they're hiding something." the larger sense that hillary clinton is hiding something, even as i can knonnocuous as mo these e-mails were, she said she didn't think about it but they were paying someone out of their own pockets to make sure they didn't cross lines with the taxpayer dollars, they thought about a little bit in terms of that. so it's difficult. you hear hillary clinton say "i'm sorry if people were confused." when i tell my girlfriend i'm sorry that your feelings are hurt she says "no, apologize for what you did, not for my feelings." well, if hillary clinton could say i'm sorry once and for all. i don't know that that would end the republican attacks but it might help move on. >> i hope, eli, then that you do then apologize to your girlfriend. i'm going on record. just own up to it. >> i get it right in the end. >> thank you guys so much, olivia and eli, see you again. >>> let's head to the developing tragedy over

the recovery of her additional mails continues a drip, drip, drip from this issue. and a new poll today has and joe biden who has yet to decide if he is running and bernie sanders closing in on clinton. clinton is at 33% and biden at 25% and sanders at 24%. biden advisers say he will likely make a decision in time to be on the stage for the first democratic debate next month. >> andrea, thank you. >>> and a follow up tonight on the big commuter hacking attack in which fingerprint images of government employees were stolen. the office of personal management said today 5.6 million prints were stolen. not 1.1 million as first reported. the u.s. believes it was part of a chinese espionage operation and the president intends to discuss cyber security when he meets with the chinese president this week. >>> the humanitarian crisis in europe continues to grow, and increasingly exposed fault lines has western european countries force a deal on the eastern counter parts to accommodate the hundreds of thousands of refugees coming in from syria and elsewhere. but as the arguing

with biden's campaign pending, hillary clinton calls it the drip-drip-drip of her e-mail controversy. >> reporter: hillary clinton said it was her lawyers who reviewed the 63,000 e-mails on her private server and deleted 30,000 of them. >> when my attorneys conducted this exhaustive process, i did not participate. when the process was finished, my attorney said, what do you want to do with all these personal e-mails? i said, i don't need to keep them. >> can you respond to an alternative explanation -- >> another conspiracy theory? >> well, you want to make it a little more difficult for congressional investigators to subpoena your government e-mails and a little more freedom of request. is that fair or no? >> it's totally ridiculous. that never crossed my mind. >> reporter: former president clinton called the e-mail an act of harassment. >> in the beginning of the year, she was the most admired person in public life and she earned it. why, because she was being covered by people who reported on what she was doing. >> reporter: vermont senator bernie sanders returned to his alma mater