first, just let's talk about elon musk's role in all of this.sting the notion of elon musk as speaker of the house. >> yes. [ laughter ] >> can you just talk to me about -- first of all, i assume you're joking, but maybe not. can you talk a little bit more about the concept of elon musk running the house of representatives, either officially or unofficially? >> you and i, we have gone through years and years of this where the republican caucus, when they come into power, they cannot govern, they cannot keep a faction together. it happened with john weiner, paul ryan, kevin mccarty, it was inevitable. that mike johnson was heading in this direction. take that is the premise, now who is going to replace him? it is comical and farcical that the direction of this republican party would obviously suggest that elon musk, who doesn't know much about governing, but is a billionaire and has bought the last election cycle, spent $250 million plus to elect a donald trump, that they would just say, hey, you take it over. and the way in which the republican

what was elon musk's design? we don't fully know, but i have a theory. >> i'd love to hear it. >> that theory is the debt ceiling. so mike johnson comes forward the one missing link in there was the debt ceiling was not included, and the debt ceiling has been used, as you know, i a lengths, for the better part of a decade, since barack obama was president in 2011, republicans have used that as a hostage taking to compel democrats not to do things for working-class people. but when they come into power it becomes a problem for them because they need to raise the debt ceiling so that they can do -- elon musk and donald trump have a lot of plans to spend trillions of dollars not only on tax cuts but to do a bunch of stuff on immigration including building a wall and hiring a bunch of deportation agents. they can't do that if the democrats are going to apply the same logic back at them that says, hey, where is your cuts? how are you going to generate revenue into this government to pay for the things you are doing. t

elon musk can't control them.at takes place with what crazy fandango we'll have starting on january 3rd when the new congress convenes and when, as you have said, they're going to be down to 217 votes to 215 democrats, they're not going to be able to legislate in any effective way and they have a whole lot of people who don't care and a lot of people now who think that shutting down the government is going to be great because people will see that hey, there's no government, our lives are wonderful. that's not how it works. >> e.j. dionne, the president-elect doesn't normally get to demonstrate weakness until at least after inauguration day. >> 100%. and a president-elect doesn't usually farm out his authority to a billionaire who happens to own a big social media company. i mean, this is what you get when you farm out the hard work of democratic government to a billionaire who has no political experience but is absolutely convinced that he understands everything. i think the other lesson here is that republicans i

elon musk.eign-born billionaire that uses ex-twitter to leverage his agenda threaten any republican that voted for the bill with primary challenges, funded by him. meaning, in his view he does not just own trump he owns every single elected republican in washington. sweet deal for a government contractor who is ineligible to be president himself and no one elected. this bill, this bill that elon hated so much would of extend it through march and give $100 billion for disaster relieve. and assistance for farmers and extension of the farm bill and pay ridge for the most unproductive congress in decades. musk's 150 tweets. triggering mass he's -- hysteria. >> does musk have too much influence? >> i don't think so there is what the american people voted for. >> elon who came a couple weeks ago and treated like rock stars welcome to the party, we are glad to have them. >> what happened was plane ways dog did its job [ laughter ] >> trump frankly was mia or sunning himself on the patio at mar-a-lago h

elon musk.o one of your earlier guests to talk about how he had taken out the pediatric cancer research. and was able to get that back and hot lined over in the senate. to have donald trump say he wants the debt limit raised beyond his presidential term is really very telling in terms of what they want to do. they want to pass this irresponsible tax scam as leader jeffreys called it. something that if you make under $100,000 a year, i guarantee you, it is not going to help your feeling of financial insecurity. you know. 52% of americans said they voted for donald trump because they felt insecure. i can guarantee you putting $4.6 trillion onto the credit card with their passing this tax scam and eliminateing the debt ceiling so that maybe donald trump could lower these corporate tax rates down from 21% for god's sake down to 15% and add another $8 trillion to it for wealthiest people is not going to help you at all. you are sitting out there. and you need a crown. cost you $1,800. it will go on y

is it donald trump or is it elon musk? is donald trump just elon musk's puppet? elon musk has been down at mar-a-lago the entire time, obviously put $300 million into donald trump's campaign, stands to benefit tremendously from donald trump's tax cuts and from all of the various government contracts that musk has as well. i think we need to have a real evaluation, and i think it is incumbent upon house republicans, senate republicans who will be in the majority to stand up for the american people, not to just do the bidding of donald trump. and right now, the american people are going to suffer because of donald trump's incompetence and elon musk's inexperience and dangerousness. >> congressman dave goldman, thank you very much for joining us in this breaking news environment on capitol hill tonight. really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> and the chairman of the senate budget committee, rhode island democratic senator sheldon whitehouse, will join us next with the senate perspective on this ongoing budget crisis now on capitol hill. that's next. crisi now on capi

the story of elon musk, this week on "firing line." -where is he? come on up here, elon. -elon musk spent more than $100 million to help re-elect donald trump and will serve as a close advisor in his administration, including leading an unofficial department of government efficiency. but musk's impact on the world started long before he stepped into the political arena. -liftoff of the falcon 9 and crew dragon. go, nasa! go, spacex! -from revolutionizing space exploration with spacex to leading the electric vehicle revolution with tesla... -there was a time when electric cars seemed very stupid, and it wasn't that long ago. -...to ventures in solar panels, ai, even chips in human brains. -he's not actually using a keyboard. he's moving the cursor with his mind. -his controversial takeover of twitter, now x, cemented his role as both a visionary disruptor and polarizing figure. -he's pushing the bounds. there's something slightly unnerving about that, but also i think we need a little bit of an injection of that in the american psyche. -best-selling biographer walter isaac

you have elon musk, jd vance.y don't understand what it is like to not get a paycheck during the holidays. they don't understand what it is like to fly commercial airlines. and deal with tsa agents who are not being paid and the chaos that ensues when you have the infrastructure derailed by a non-functioning government and these are the people who ultimately hold the levers of power in terms of deciding whether the government shuts down or not in less than 36 hours. >> they have also begun to smoke their own kind of whatever they smoke. they believe wrongly. >> ketamine? no, you can't smoke that. go ahead. >> they believe wrongly and have come to believe that when you cut government spending, there are no real world impacts because government is loaded. it does all kinds of stuff. so to all the things you listed, those are correct. however, they live in this wielder word that says you can do these things without tangible real world impacts. they are wrong about that and we have to suffer through the moments where

we're seeing reaction from elon musk.atedly posted on x, essentially encouraging republicans to read every word of whatever bill is put on the table. the reaction from the president-elect has been a spin on these events. he posted on truth social this morning, quote, if there's going to be a shutdown of government, let it begin now under the biden administration. this is a biden problem to solve. if republicans can help solve it, they will. ana, what's making this job more difficult for republicans is what the president-elect called for in another post on truth social, calling for the debt ceiling to be extended through his presidency or eliminated altogether and that is an idea that's very popular among democrats, but that is opposed by republicans. the big question now is what role the president-elect has incoming to a solution. it's unlikely he'll head to capitol hill as we see j.d. vance meet with lawmakers. you can be sure he's working the phones behind the scenes trying to twist arms of republicans and get to an agr

. >> a lot of democrats, myself included, feel like we beat elon musk and donald trump. >> how elon musk imposed his will on the republican party >> we had a great conversation, totally understands what we are doing. >> how the world richest man killed cancer funding for kids. >> they would rather enact massive tax cuts for the billionaire donor than fund cancer research for children. >> from his travel transition to failure in the house, donald trump's weakened state when he returns to office. "all in" starts now. good evening from new york, i'm chris hayes. here we are, with the holidays looming, republicans treated a massive crisis out of nothing and begged democrats to bail them out, which the democrats did tonight and a costly d shutdown appears to be averted at the 11th hour. the passage of a bill to fund the government in march in the house things to near unanimous support from democrats hours before the federal government was set to run out of funding, we are waiting on the senate, that is expected. this absurd rotation with disaster was completely preventable but became necessar

after the inauguration, elon is going to go back to what elon is doing and trump is going to go backg. >> i don't nope know if i believe that. >> think what's remarkable that has been happening last week. you have elon musk in support. which is the far right. the german political spectrum. you also had him cozying up to people like ferrard who is the person that many people would see as a key flash point for a far right movement in the uk. the british conservatives that just got beaten very badly in elections are extremely concerned about this. because if musk did indeed win trump the election through his ground game and his money and his communication styles, if he starts unleashing that in europe, you could see, extraordinary consequences. and remember, right now both fronts and germany are in political turmoil. i mean, it's like trump is treating this like a kind of sport by threatening them all one by one to see what happens. just to show how powerful he is. and we had this bizarre situation. that italy remember italy is now emerging adds a bastian under maloni. who would have th

elon musk doesn't care. so to me it demonstrates and i think it gives democrats a great messaging opportunity to underscore how donald trump, elon musk, vivek and again, the whole oligarch class, the billionaires who are now going to run the government don't care about governing, are clueless about how to do it. and that is not in the best interest of the american people. >> jonah, what is your reaction when you hear the republicans who are out there, who are looking at this and saying, okay, we'll shut the government down, like there is kind of a cavalier attitude from some corners, not from the mike lawlor's of the world who was just here. he's always to his credit. we've had him on at these moments said, you know, we shouldn't shut down the government. but there are some who say, okay, do it. it doesn't actually make that big of a difference. i think elon musk himself actually articulated that argument. yeah. >> i mean, there's a long tradition of some republicans thinking this time it will work for us, a

elon musk.diatric cancer research and because of the activism of nancy goodman, was able to get that back and sort of hot lined in the senate. and to have donald trump say that he wants the debt limit raised beyond his presidential term is really very telling in terms of what they want to do. they want to pass this irresponsible tax scam, as leader jeffries called it, something that you make under $100,000 a year, i guarantee you, it is not going to help your feeling of financial insecurity. 52% of americans said that they voted for donald, they voted for donald trump because they felt insecure. i can guarantee you that putting $4.6 trillion more onto the credit card with passing this tax scam and eliminating the debt ceiling so that maybe donald trump could lower these corporate tax rates down from 21%, for god sake, down to 15 and adding another $8 trillion for the wealthiest people is not going to help you at all. you are sitting out there, you need a crown, it will cost you $1800, it will ha

we know elon musk was calling the shots.knocked that down. >> i think elon musk and, um, a few others look at this as some kind of a game they want to play. we are playing with peoples lives here. we, as elected officials, ought not be giving up our responsibilities to someone that has never been elected to anything. >> reporter: alex, the trump transition team is downplaying the level of influence elon musk had in this whole process, saying all of his comments and commentary throughout this process were at the blessing of president-elect trump. this is definitely something to watch over the next four years, especially in this critical transition process, as we see elon musk visiting mar-a- lago more and more frequently and as he is leading that effort to cut government spending, alex. >> allie raffa, thank you very much from a very noisy balcony around there, a lot of people around you. >>> joining me now we have democratic congresswoman from pennsylvania madeline dean sitting in her kitchen,, as usual, i believe. that's fi

elon musk spent a ton of money on electing trump. elon musk has the biggest platform in political communications. elon musk has the money to threaten other republicans with primary challenges. all those are incredibly important factors. but you know, for trump he's not running again and he might tire on this if it does result in bad publicity. >> i want to talk about those important factors because david, people have been saying to me for the last few weeks elon musk doesn't have that much power, doge, it's not even an agency, it's sitting off here in left field. but doesn't he have all the power? he's got this massive, massive megaphone in twitter and he has made it clear he will primary and/or humiliate anyone who stands in the way of his priorities. to me that's massive power. >> yeah, i think we have to distinguish between an advisory committee without any statutory power or really any political base and between that and the fact that elon musk doesn't just have influence with donald trump as we've seen over the last 24 to 48 hou

elon doing this for elon? we have seen him talk about how he's already the world's richest man. why would he do this to make more money, right? this is about saving the government and the country and all these other things. without a doubt, it is part of the background conversation and oreground conversation about what government is doing and what elon is doing. it happens to help some of the companies. you have to remember tesla, spacex, these are companies that operate in heavily regulated environments. having the ability to shape those government regulations or what isn't regulated or what isn't enforced is very powerful and that could make having trump in the white house very beneficial to elon. >> speaking of powerful before we let you go, we have seen a consortium of tech companies trying to put their abilities together to get government contracts. would you imagine that spacex might be part of that. how does that work that potential conflict of interest with the incoming administration and elon musk try

no one elected elon musk. >> good point.our role on foreign affairs, i do want to head overseas for a moment because you know in the first time for over a decade u.s. diplomats visited damascus yesterday to meet with the leader of the rebel group that overthrew bashar al assad. members of the delegation said he came across as pragmatic and they removed him from the terror list. how carefully does the u.s. need to proceed in this relationship, and do you really believe that iran is going to have no role to play in syria going forward as the diplomats suggest? >> i think that this is such a crucial moment for the syrian people who have finally overthrown the brutal assad regime and have a real opportunity now to build a more inclusive, prosperous syria. and i think it's incumbent on us as americans to be doing everything we can to help push and help, you know, create that inclusive, democratic, peaceful syria that i know so many syrian people want. it's why i collated a resolution with ranking member meeks that says the u.s. s

how many votes has elon musk? he has zero. >> unfortunately the house republicans seem to be listening to him. >>> coming up what does the chaos mean for the speaker of the house mike johnson and why are some republicans saying the guy that started it all should take his job? that is next. . jen b asks, "how can i get fast download speeds while out and about?" jen, we've engineered xfinity mobile with wifi speeds up to a gig, so you can download and do much more all at once. it's an idea that's quite attractive. or... another word... -fashionable? i was gonna say- "popular! you're gonna be pop-uuuu-larrr!" can you do defying gravity?! yeah, get my harness. buy one line of unlimited, get one free for a year with xfinity mobile. and see “wicked,” in theaters now. >>> it seems to me new leadership in the house is inevitable if that is the case we need to go outside the box. a couple of weeks ago i was in a meeting and there was fawning praise from everybody. every point along the continuum especially in the house rep

he did not dare, but elon musk foolishly did. elon musk picked florida senator rick scott publicly endorsed him, and rick scott came in last among the group of three candidates for majority leader. everyone knew he was going to come in last. only two of those candidates were serious candidates, and only one of them had a real chance, senator john thune of south dakota won on the first ballot. even though elon musk publicly opposed john thune and announced publicly, and he thought this was really condemning, that john thune was the favorite choice of democrats. and that is actually true. they want chuck schumer to stay as majority leader, but off republican has to be majority leader, they would prefer john thune to the alternatives. elon musk foolishly believed that identifying that simple fact, that democrats would prefer john thune, would kill john thune's candidacy for majority leader with republican senator, but everyone in the senate already knew that the democrats preferred john thune. and so elon musk's public humiliation t

why would elon musk need to be speaker of the house?ight now with no responsibilities he does not like. if he doesn't like what is happening here tomorrow he can get on his rocketship and leave. but speaker of the house, you have work to do. >> you would also be fairly powerful, third in line for the presidency. he wouldn't be very good at it. >> right now i think he is closer in line to the presidency than mike johnson is. not in name but in influence. >> this is a guy who believes that his car charging style focuses on process, it can do anything. this is really fundamentally cultural clashing. someone who believes if you are aggressive enough as an entrepreneur, you move off, break things and do whatever it takes to build a company, he thinks he can transfer that to the political world. >> but it does not work like that. >> there is a fantastically dynamite private sector driven by entrepreneurs like elon musk and has been the envy of the world. you have this really contrasting story right now and somehow we just kind of carry on wit

so having elon musk so having elon musk way in, creating the chaos, if that begins to wear on people,its at the axis of trump, musk, donald junior, the senate and the house. how he operates, going to the speaker's office, he as the powerbroker will be one of the key angles in terms of how members feel about the outside influence going forward. >> that is a good point, are you hearing concern from congress, specifically republicans about elon musk and his power and influence and the potential of a billionaire to shape policy to his own financial benefit? >> absolutely. even in the days after president-elect trump won the election, republicans, especially those who live to the first trifecta in washington member how trump himself would pressure them to fall in line, so they were expecting that. the fact that we have someone else who has a very big platform, who can just go and as we saw, ramp up a lot of the frustration that the far right flank of the house republican conference date, musk did that and amplified it which seems to have gotten to trump which led to the moment of breaking

but thank god for elon musk and vivek ramaswamy. >> thankfully, elon and vivek got on social media andtarted raising hell, and they reduced this bill tremendously. >> welcome back to state of the union. my panel joins me now to discuss. scott, i'll start with you. just broadly about the kind of buzzsaw of reality that donald trump ran into with his fellow republicans in the house even before he took office. >> yeah, it is interesting. he his style of politics and style of republicanism does run a little bit headlong into the old sort of tea party dna of the republican party from time to time that happened on this legislation. >> i suspect it's going to happen again. and with very close margins in the house, he's going to have to figure out a way to corral these folks and to convince them that teamwork matters. and i think this was a message of speaker johnson. you know, we have protracted battles about the leadership. >> we have protracted infighting all the time. >> all we're ultimately going to do is delay or even deny donald trump the chance to implement his agenda. so if i were in

>> i'm not sure, i'm not sure anybody thought that elon musk and would have this much power, elon muskorsed donald trump, but a lot of rich guys endorsed donald trump. why is elon musk all of a sudden in charge? donald trump signed off on the original continuing resolution and reversed course only when elon musk came out in opposition. so i'm not sure the american public voted for donald trump thinking he would outsource all of the key governance decisions to a handful of billionaires. >> can you get rid of the debt ceiling and cut over misspending? if you're going to cut spending as much as elon musk and want to do, why would you need to get of the debt ceiling? >> a good question and you have to understand that the billionaires want to cut government in a way that hurts when the people, they don't want to cut the parts that help them. i don't think you will hear elon musk proposing to cut subsidies for his company's. apparently what was agreed to in the last six hours were cut to the mandatory spending and that is mainly medicare, the program that takes care of the elderly and medica

was elon in the room? did elon hold his fire until it was, you know, kind of too late. and elon musk doesn't really listen. he's a very smart gentleman, but i don't know if he knows how to to to to run the government. right. making sausage in legislation is an ugly process. right. so it is it's not an auspicious start. um, uh, the trump administration hasn't even started yet, so i would, you know, congressman kinzinger is exactly correct that cr is a continuing resolution kicks the can down the road till march, and they're gonna have to deal with this again at some point. so, uh, as congressman kinzinger points out, that hard that hard stop of christmas break may actually make people focus and get things done sooner than they normally would do. and maybe that's the only way they get something done is with a hard backstop of having to get out of here at some point, maybe they have a shutdown and then they force negotiate. otherwise, if you kick the can down the road to march, you're going to be dealing with the exact same issues just in the first quarter. >> s. e. cupp i

elon musk. elon musk is everywhere in china. look into some of the provisions of the bill that were defeated by elon musk coming out against it were, in fact, trying to stop the off loading of technology to china. hello. and then you've got him over promising to write checks in the u.k. to the right wing party over there. then you've got him endorsing what many call the neonazi party in germany right now. who is this guy? who does he think he is? why is everyone so afraid of him? who put him in the position? the american people didn't vote for this guy. he names his children after mathematical formulas. he's not somebody who understands common sense and the needs of the american people. so i just -- i am beside myself that he has this kind of power, and it is making donald trump look tiny. i mean teeny weenie tiny. >> claire, you just masterfully connected all of the dots. what can democrats do? >> here's where the train wreck is going to come. today in the republican caucus they put up a slide and they said in the first reconci

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elon fits that bill nicely. >> despite what senator cramer just said, we'll note that elon musk was, of course, not on the ballot and was not elected to any position in the government. eugene robinson, though, elon musk wasn't elected, but he sure holds a perch of power, at least for the moment. i mean, it was already -- we've spent a lot of time on this show talking about just this unprecedented influence he had on the election with his money, with his time, with his social media site. now, he gets this doge quasi government agency. yesterday, let's be clear, this week, when this bill, the original bill went down to defeat, that started soon after, it was musk, not trump, starting to go after it on social media. seems like he's got the president's ear, and it seems like he is wielding a lot of power. >> yeah, he definitely is wielding a lot of power. he definitely has the president's ear. i don't think -- or the president-elect's ear. i don't think donald trump is, for very long, going to like people talking about president musk and how elon musk is really running the show. but if w

i was going to say elon musk was the winner. he killed the initial bill, had super visions in there that he did not like from a personal level being a businessman. killed the bill that had outbound investments that restricted investments he, himself, tesla has investments in china. there are questions raised if there is a conflict of interest there. i would say mike johnson is perhaps the biggest loser in all of this. he managed to pises off donald trump, he managed to embarrass himself in front of his own republican conference and showed to democrats he is not a reliable negotiating partner. not only that he has a debt ceiling in this fight. it will be a fight. hanging over him. i know he did make some commitment they will address it in exchange for $2.5 trillion in cuts. i make a commitment to eat more vegetables and drink less wine in the new year and workout more. that is just a commitment. actually implementing it will be so much harder and just seeing what a mess passing a cr stopgap funding bill was this week is just a pr

elon musk's part. he accomplished basically three-day delay. this doesn't reduce spending from the original bill. it may be more expensive. most of the top line items that were important to people, there are some bells and whistles that got dropped. most are still in that bill, which sis why the house democrs and the white house and it looks like the senate democrats have come around to support it. they did not get the one demand that president trump -- president-elect trump had. he didn't get anything out of this doe lay either. all they got was aggravation. i think a wake-up call for republicans that it's not going to be easy to govern with the tiny margins they have next year. there's going to be a lot of this chaos as there was during the first trump presidentsy. i am certainly having episodes of deja vu remembering how chaotic it was. this time with the addition of musk, it may be more so. >> right. elon musk has proved him sto se be effective at certain things. we reported on that. he was very in

one of the things i talked about a bit here, leader jeffries, is that elon musk -- we saw elon musk taked of a powerful role in his power over the republican caucus. that surprised me i guess. maybe it shouldn't have. did anything about how he wielded his power surprise you? >> well, many people throughout the capitol are saying that he has perhaps mergesed as the -- emerged as the leader of the republican party moving forward. we'll have to see how that plays itself out over the next few weeks, next few months, and next few years. as house democrats, our position is simple -- there are three things that we should all be focused on in connection with the american people. first, lowering cost. second, bigger paychecks for hard-working american taxpayers. and third, securing safer communities. that's going to be our north star moving forward, and we'll see whether the incoming administration is prepared to join us on behalf of the american people. >> i note there were some -- i listed a number of them, pieces that were in this bipartisan agreement that were stripped out of the bill before

you are mad at elon musk.'t been mad at the man who has been supposedly running our country for the last four years. it feels like trump is already president, but he's not. the one signing all these pardons and commutations for all these folks, is it joe biden who has this sudden shift of forgiveness for these folks, or something being put in front of him and he signing off of it? you can do a lot of damage as the leader of the free world in the next few weeks. that is really concerning to me. >> there is more wretchedness to come in terms of pardons. the last name will start with a b. >> that's a good point. we are seeing that and seeing student loan forgiveness. i'm laughing at all these democrats are even republicans who are saying, where is joe biden? they should have been asking that question for the last four years. we have seen no and reporting from "the wall street journal" that this man needed help and needed organized naps and organized meetings. we saw this with our own eyes. kamala harris is an emp

elon musk pulling his strings. >>> u.s. diplomats holding their first meeting with syria's new de facto government. pressing the leader of a terror group to help find the missing american journalist. >>> suspect accused of killing a healthcare ceo back in new york after returning in handcuffs. federal charges mean that he could face the death penalty. >>> good day, everyone. house speaker johnson says he has a new plan. third plan to avoid a partial government shutdown 12 hours from now. republicans are huddling in a half hour as they discuss a possible temporary relief deal today. paychecks for millions of federal workers are on the line right now in the middle of the holidays but this would be the republicans third plan in a week, but it's not clear if that is what it is or if the speaker has the votes for it. it was tanked yesterday by nearly 40 republicans and almost all democrats after the original bipartisan stopgap funding bill was killed by a tweet storm from elon musk followed by a statement from president elect do

so i think do you think i mean, look, it's clear what trump gets from elon. >> what does elon getting from trump in your view in in my view i think he is passionate about his all of his businesses basically are based here, right. >> he's concerned about the future of his interests and the interests of the economy of the united states, and the best way to do it, to make sure america is a prospering place in the future, is to make sure we address the biggest, you know, internal threat that we have, which is our debt and deficit. >> but but to your earlier point, he his businesses, right. i mean, sure, but everybody has that right. >> a lot of families. >> well, not not everybody has a bunch of business before. >> no, no they don't, but they have interests in their life. you were very generous and very kind and diplomatic in how you talked about elon musk's intentions here. i'm going to be a little bit more blunt and direct, which is that he gets significant subsidies for his research programs from the federal government, and he's now been put in a position where he can oversee any of th

he joked after a vote he walked up to elon musk the wannabe speaker, and elon musk told him, this seems like the hardest job in the world. i asked him, do you even want this job given how chaotic the last 37 hours have been? trump on the other side of pennsylvania avenue -- and he told me, the speaker is a challenge in the modern era, those are his words. he said it's a great honor to serve, and it's not the most fun job in the world. he said it, yes, he is ready to be speaker again. they are going to come back in january, prepared to do the hardest work of their lives. and it will be the hardest work of their lives. >> he says he still wants a job. i apologize to the audience. it sounds like a lot of people are chatting around you. what are the signs for these can be speakers? >> its not. again, you have 34 republicans who voted against this plan, one that trump seemingly endorsed or seemed to stand in the way of. certainly because of this whole debacle, the bill wind 1600 pages to now under 200 pages, everything happened in the last 36 hours. a lot of people are pointing fingers, they

elon musk or donald trump? who's the president elect here? elon musk or donald trump? >> well, let's look at some people who were going on elon musk's very own platform, asking that same question. democrats. uh, president elect elon musk and former president donald trump want to shut down the government. uh, pramila jayapal, it's clear who who's in charge. it's not trump shadow president elon musk spent all day railing against republicans. cr succeeded in killing the bill. bernie sanders saying that we've spent much months negotiating this bipartisan agreement. the richest man on earth, president elon musk, doesn't like it. will republicans kiss his ring? the answer is yes. as we're talking, the actual president elect, donald trump, is working the phones. he's been talking to some of our brethren saying a couple of things. one is if the government shuts down, it's biden's fault. i don't know if that's going to sell. and also, this is a thing we haven't talked about. the debt ceiling. a big part of what donald trump is saying now is in order for any republican to suppor

who's in charge, elon musk or donald trump? >> i erinthink it's very clear donald trump is in charge, and again, that's why washington is responding to the president's concerns. i point out again, joe biden is the sitting president, and yet no one -- no one in the media, nor othe democrats are even asking joe biden -- >> oh, we're asking. >> what his thoughts are. >> we're asking, but not getting answers. >> nobody's getting an answer and that's part of the problem here. >> what do you think should happen now? who should step in? >> viously donald trump is going to inherit what is passed here, and so obviously his -- his opinion matters in this conversation. ultimately, we're going to need to pass the cr. we're not shutting the government down. i have ngnever supported that, d will not support that. we do need to pass the cr. i am waiting to see the details on what is being negotiated by the speaker, and leadership as are many of my colleagues, but we're going to have to pass a cr and get us into the new year. this does not wor

what do you make of elon musk's upcoming role in the white house.president as someone suggested. >> i don't see the shadow president but good to be with you as were leading into this christmas time. i do welcome his involvement he brings a level of transparency that frankly most people cannot. we are used to having outside folks influencing what were doing whether think tanks, whether individuals and whether constituents and obviously they weigh in different ways social media is a huge way of doing that. i saw a clip of senator hagerty talking about the transparency in elon musk's involvement brings and insignificant. i welcome it. >> next one. trump is reportedly not happy republicans cannot secure a suspension of the debt ceiling, he's worried the democrats will use it to get in his way, what are your thoughts on that. >> certainly, the debt ceiling about is something i've been a part of for the last 14 years. it came in prior to that with a good goal and objective it is to focus and have a real debate about where our country is with our debt and

elon musk. the world's richest man just tweeted this bill should not pass. >> well, i was communicating with elon last night. he and vivek ramaswamy and i were on a text chain. we talked until almost midnight. he said look i get it. you are in an impossible position. everybody knows that. >> midnight text chain with vivek. don't you hate it when your friends act nice in the group chat and start sub tweeting you? trump came out against john on's funding bill saying in a joint statement with actual president-president jd vance. we want to set our country up for success in 2025. the only way to do that is with a temporary funding bill without democratic give aways combined with an increase in the debt ceiling. anything else is a betrayal of our country. so donald trump is now officially against passing the funding bill that would avoid a government shutdown four days before christmas. trump wants johnson to throw out the deal that has been negotiated and come up with a new bill. a bill that will ma

elon musk wrote there. i will go to war on this issue the likes of which are cannot possibly comprehend. i believe steve bannon had lots of time in his jail cell to comprehend what war on behalf of trump looks like, but that is sort of the red flag that elon musk waved in front of maga figures who disagree on this. and again on the policies is when the democratic and republican presidents in the same position on for many years. it does put trump at cross pressure with his pace. your thoughts on the crude and brutal nature of this very public feud. why is that an element? >> you know, steve bannon might be officially more thuggish and went to jail, but this is completely that too you showed us completely thuggish rhetoric and behavior, threatening in that way. you know, at the core of this is nihilism about maga and putting musk -- when you're so transactional and so opportunistic that you don't believe in anything, as you were saying before and trump is in this category, you have no values. everything becom

he is essentially running in elon's wake, running in elon's shadow. operating under the rules and the terms elon musk wants him to operate under. and elon musk makes steve bannon look like a picture of modesty and goodwill. the thing about musk i think that is interesting is that he is capricious. he has a short attention span. he is given to long running benders on his social media platform in the middle of the night about whatever strikes his mind. at that moment. he will draw trump in with more and more radical things. elon endorsing the german neo- nazi party. even trump is not going to come out and hug a neo-nazi party in germany one hopes. but we have one with so much power over trump and the ai images of trump wearing a gimp suit and bending the knee. serving elon dinner. those will get to trump in a way that i think the policy will not affect trump as emotionally as those things will. >> it seems that you can kind of look across the board on so many issues that republicans have to get done or have done and it is just a complete chaotic scene.

trump bought into elon musk because elon musk put $177 million into helping him get elected. then thought he might kind of sideline ghhim along with vivek ramaswamy -- excuse me -- with this non-governmental department on government efficiency. well, it turns out you can't sideline elon musk. and elon musk is veering more and more into lunatic conspiracy and right-wing radical theoriesi look at his support for the neo-nazi party orin germany, whh he arsays is the only one that prevailed. i think this is going to be an ongoing toheadache for him and r congressional republicans. because he has this enormous bully pulpit. he has complete control over twitter, whatever he wants to call it now. he can mobilize tens of millions of people, unlimited funds in which to do it, and acting as a kind of rump president. i don't think trump had any idea what he was getting himself in for. and msmike johnson and the hous republicans, who are themselves divided -- remember, mike johnson deis a radical christia nationalist extremist, and he is not radical enough for 40 or more of his own membe

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elon musk believes he's president.m vice president and president because i don't know what jd is doing. >> he's the head dude in charge. >> unelected president. >> unelected oligarch governing by tweet. >> president elon musk exerting over the house republican conference than any president in the white house would. >> some republicans and former republicans are afraid of donald trump right now as vice president trump, that's not going to sit well. >> they'll have to get together and decide who the president s. liz: media watch dog say this is why msnbc ratings and cnn ratings are in a crash. now the democrat attack is not on stopping inflationary spending that raises your taxes and raises inflation, pork and waste. we understand the issues with elon musk and he is pointing it out on twitter and no, ma'am dating the spending area. let's bring in bob narro nardel. stopping that new interim bill and make of all the action in dc now and new democrat media attack lines and going for musk. >> when will they wake up that pass