harrison floyd is charged with being essentially a pawn in donald trump's larger alleged plot to overturn the results of the 2020 election. and floyd's social media reach is puny compared to trump's massive bully pulpit. nonetheless, jail was on the table and could very much still be on the table in the future for harrison floyd. jail time is not even really being considered for mr. trump either in fulton county, georgia, where his own bond conditions are more specific than harrison floyd's were or in federal court in d.c. where a little over a month ago trump was given a narrow gag order in jack smith's federal election interference case. the gag strokes of that order barred strump from doing anything that could intimidate witnesses, threaten court staff, or threaten prosecutors in that case. trump's legal team has managed to get that gag order frozen twice now as it appeals to higher courts. and you night think that given the fact trump is actively appealing gag order he would somehow try to show it wasn't needed asked wouldn't be doing something seen as intimidating witnesses or jack s

cnn's evan perez joins us, evan, walk us through what happened in court today for harrison floyd. >> the judge, scott mcafee, had reluctance about enforcing or doing what the prosecutors were saying he should do which is revoke his bail conditions, because harrison floyd has made a number of inflammatory comments on social media, things, attacking potential witnesses, obviously for this case in georgia, including people who helped certify the election in 2020, so one of the things that fani willis was saying is that it was clear that these were things that harrison floyd mayweather should not be doing and that the judge needed to essentially bring it down on him because of that. listen to her arguments today in court. >> he was given an opportunity to cooperate with the rules of this case and what he really did was spit on the court and refuse to oblige by three of the seven conditions of this order. what we're here to decide is does this mean something or not? he doesn't get an, oh, i'm sorry after i'm already intimidated the witnesses in this case. it's too late. >> as you can see,

admittedly harrison floyd took it on the chin yesterday.e for fani willis to do this hearing herself? >> i think it was very significant that madam d.a. showed up to do the hearing herself. you know, it kind of sets the tone. it was the first offensive motion that the district attorney's office has mounted. the other hearings to date has been whether it's removal or kind of motions to dismiss that they have had to grapple with. so i think it set the tone. with harrison floyd in particular it was quite interesting, because his tweets essentially adding these potential trial witnesses, and then the rico case against trump in georgia. the question was whether or not that was, you know, direct communication with witnesses or whether that was witness intimidation, and i think the judge kind of passed a pretty fine line, and it was quite a smart way he proceeded with this, which was to say, yes, harrison floyd did violate some conditions of release, but not all the tweets were of the same kind of extreme. and he left himself the opportunity, i th

brad raffensperger in what the district attorney has laid out in this courtroom is that harrison floydd over the last few weeks different messages in which he tagged the likes of gabe sterling and the chief investigator from the d.a.'s office is testifying he talked with sterling who said yes, i saw that and took it as a threat. he also tagged jenna ellis after she entered a plea agreement and those videos came out and ellis in a message this morning said she took it as intimidation and a threat. it was more than just those messages that willis says amounts to intimidation. it's also the responses on x from individuals that should be included. take a listen. >> comes from underneath this post and the comment comes from at full ford leonard. and the statement is bury this b-i-t-c-h under the jail. >> we don't know who that was in reference to. fani willis or ruby freeman, the worker who is at the heart of why he is included because it was him who applied pressure on freeman to make false allegations. there's a lot on the line here for this hearing for harrison floyd. >> i think he poste

he's someone that's been targeted by harrison floyd.have these witnesses on the stand. the fact we have the d.a. in the courtroom herself shows not only does she take this very seriously, but she's trying to use this to send a strong message about the other codefendants who are thinking about violating the terms of their bond agreement. >> thank you so much. i think there's no doubt what the message is, barbara, that she is trying to send, but in that same line of thinking, is that what will happen with whatever the judge decides? does it send a message to others involved including donald trump about whether or not there will be consequences? >> i think so. i think one of the reasons that willis is taking this matter so seriously is that she needs to be seen as treating each defendant equally and that the law applies to each of them equally. so think about that. you know, he is making intimidating remarks on social media claiming it is his first amendment right to do so. what willis is saying is you are not an ordinary person who get to

fani willis made her case against harrison floyd one of donald trump's 18 codefendants in the georgiaction interference case. if you remember floyd as the head of black voices for trump, orchestrated the strategy of harassing and intimidating election worker ruby freeman in an attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election. today what was at issue in front of judge scott mcafee is whether floyd violated his bond agreement posting inflammatory media posts directed asps withes in the case including ms. freeman. floyd the perpetual troll that he is began the hearing by reading from "how to think like a roman emperor, the stoic philosophy of marcus arillious." the. >> he knew what he was doing, signed this order, they agreed to it. there was a good reason to have this order with these conditions and what we're here to decide today is does this order mean something or not. he doesn't get oh, i'm sorry after i've already intimidated the witnesses in this case. it's too late. you should not have done this. you knew it was against the rules. you put someone ipdanger as a result of doing

she wants harrison floyd to be thrown back in jail. in a legal filing yesterday she seemed to wring up more than a dozen social media posts and conservative talk radio conversations. saying the defendant poses a significant threat of intimidating witnesses and otherwise obstructing the administration of justice in the future, making him ineligible for bond. she's calling this a violation of the bond concerns. harrison floyd is accused of trying to harass and intimidation election workers here. he's an election denier, one of many still out there in the united states and what has been said by his defense attorneys in open court it appears a strategy is relitigate the results here in georgia of the 2020 election. it goes without saying there have been three recounts done by the republican secretary of state's office. and all found that president biden won the election here in georgia. sara? >> it has been three years and we're still talking about this, even though all of the evidence shows that joe biden won the 2020 election. nick valen

harrison floyd was the last to get out of jail, because he currently has a federal criminal cases forlting a federal officer, so he has a history of contact with the judicial system. second context is the judge weighing the totality of the circumstances in front of him. floyd is being accused in this indictment of intimidation. that's exactly what the state is saying now, he's now intimidating the very witness who is the victim in the indictment that he's accused or alleged of intimidating. if you're judge mcafear, you have a few optioning, but it's mading how we're seeing these parallel issues, and now we have harrison floyd saying the first thing, this is my first amendment rights. there are limitations, you cannot impede the judicial sim by intimidating a witness or victim into not participating in the legal system. mcafee will truly operate in a vacuum in this instance. he's only going to look at what's going on with harrison floyd, the facts and circumstances of what's alleged. >>> blayne and katie, thank to see you on set. you are the queen of everything here. >> you are so kind

offices, definitely did not come from us, and then, harrison floyd, it came from harrison floyd's teamiming it's a typo. i am not sure, but why harrison floyd benefits from this, not good to me. he's an agent of chaos, we should stay focused on him. >> he was the pr rep involved in one of the more bizarre subplots in all this, which was the menacing nbc center, ruby freeman, shea moss, tried to convince them to lie about their involvement, cop to some big election, the from police officer. truly a bizarre -- >> bizarre and tragic. he is also one of the indicted codefendants here, as always, pleasure. >> that's rather me. >> still to come, as american politicians from both parties show support for israel, and during a losses by gaza and israel next. only $41 on dealdash. dealdash.com, online auctions since 2009. this playstation 5 sold for only 50 cents. this ipad pro sold for less than $34. and this nintendo switch, sold for less than $20. i got this kitchenaid stand mixer for only $56. i got this bbq smoker for 26 bucks. and shipping is always free. go to dealdash.com right now and se

unfolding county judge scott mcafee sides with the dea on this, harrison floyd will have to go back torial. meanwhile, floyd's alleged coconspirators here have remained remarkably defiant. trayvon kutti, again, publicist, according to the washington post, talks openly on social media about the headline making experience, taunting detractors and memes and suggesting that she should be trump's next press secretary. be careful of what you suggest. and then there is pastor stephen cliffgard lee. you can see him here in police body cam footage, after ruby freeman called the police on him and december of 2020. mr. li who calls himself america's chaplain reportedly appeared at a recent event to raise funds for his defense. saying, quote, i am not going to put out to a lie. i am not going to cooperate with evil. this is the lords battle and we have got to fight it. we are going to have more on the upcoming and ongoing battles down in fulton county, as the attorney for yet another codefendant issued a big mea culpa in court today. former fulton county assistant d. a. melissa redmon joins me to

offices, definitely did not come from us, and then, harrison floyd, it came from harrison floyd's teamharrison floyd benefits from this, not good to me. he's an agent of chaos, we should stay focused on him. >> he was the pr rep involved in one of the more bizarre subplots in all this, which was the menacing nbc center, ruby freeman, shea moss, tried to convince them to lie about their involvement, cop to some big election, the from police officer. truly a bizarre -- >> bizarre and tragic. he is also one of the indicted codefendants here, as always, pleasure. >> that's rather me. >> still to come, as american politicians from both parties show support for israel, and during a losses by gaza and israel next. israel next. ♪i'm hearing different ways for me to screen for colon cancer.♪ ♪it's time to use my voice,♪ ♪i've got a choice, more than one answer.♪ ♪i sat down with my doc.♪ we had a talk. ♪knew just what to say.♪ ♪i asked for cologuard and did it my way.♪ cologuard is a one-of-a kind way to screen for colon cancer that's effective and non-invasive. it's for people 45 plus at avera

meanwhile, fani willis sought to revoke the bond of another of trump's co-defendants, harrison floyd, former head of black voices of trump. citing a pattern of intimidation toward co-defendants and witnesses. noting that floyd engaged in numerous intentional and flagrant violations of his bond agreement. those violations include recent tweets tagging individuals like, georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger and former fulton county elections worker, ruby freeman. joining me now is barbara mcquaid, former u.s. attorney and law professor at the university of michigan. lisa ruben, msnbc legal analyst. thank you, ladies. lisa, i want to start with you because it strikes me that in this last case, the case of this attempt to revoke the bond of this defendant who was involved in the attempt to intimidate ruby freeman in the first place, harrison floyd, interesting that he is now looking at having his bond revoked and could wind up in jail. that is not something that donald trump has faced even though he, too, has intimidated witnesses. did that come up -- did his lawyers bring that up

willis filed a motion to revoke harrison floyd's bond agreement citing several interviews and social a posts that allegedly violate conditions of floyd's release. prosecutors cited an interview on a podcast as one example of that where mr. floyd trash talks one of his former codefendants who has now flipped, attorney jena ellis. and then there's the fate of mr. floyd's social media posts directed at ruby freeman, ones allegedly containing excerpts from down at that police station. as fulton county judge mcfae sides with the d.a. on this harrison floyd will have to go back to jail to await trial. meanwhile his alleged coconspirators here have remained markedly defiant. he talks openly on social media about the headline making experience and suggesting she would be trump's next press secretary. and then there's mr. stephen cliff guard lee. you can see him here in police body cam footage after ruby freeman called the police on him in december 22. mr. lee who calls himself america's chaplain saying, quote, i'm not going to plead out to a lie. i'm not going to cooperate with evil. this is

harrison floyd, the defendant whose lawyers initially claimed responsibility. this is the first time that the district attorney has asked someone to be essentially jailed so far in this case. now harrison floyd is interesting because he's also the only defendant who has spent time in jail so far in this case. he was in jail for about a week after he was charged until they were able to come to a bond agreement. now he is the leader of an organization called black voices for trump, and he's pleaded not guilty to three state felonies, and he has largely charged in connection to his alleged role to try to intimidate people, including some poll workers. now prosecutors point to statements that he's made, mostly on social media, that appear to intimidate election workers saying, look, this is a violation of your bond agreement and they are asking for him to be incarcerated. it's an important remind their in many ways this case is not only being tried in the courtroom that we see on tv but also in the court of public opinion. >> certainly is. good point, paula. stay w

fani willis is asking a judge to revoke the bond of the man you see here, harrison floyd. the defendants, and she wants to put him in jail. now, the y is interesting. they are saying that what he has done is that he has engaged in behavior to intimidate codefendants and witnesses. in one example, they laid out a social media post where floyd calls out of the georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger. and in another post, it shows floyd questioning why his legal team was accused of leaking materials and referring to false claims about election worker. and that election worker is ruby freeman, who once again is caught in the middle. she and her daughter were targeted by trump with bogus fraud, fraud allegations in the past. speaking of those leaks from the fulton county judge, blocking the release of sensitive evidence after key video statements when other defendants got out. and now, the attorney for a separate defendant -- i know it's a mess -- he's owning up to it. jonathan miller, representing former coffee county elections supervisor, misty hampton saying here sayin

his name, harrison floyd, over his alleged defendant to sway witnesses. he will bar the jenna ellis video that was leaked. >> he said the boss, and everyone understood the boss, that's what we called him. he said the boss is not going to leave under any circumstances. we're going to stay in power. we know who leaked that video and why. more on that later. there's the 2$250 million againt trump and his formally business. the former president wants a mistrial. he is alleging biased against him. the claim he has shouted from the rooftops or the reporters outside of the courtroom. >> this judge is a partisan judge, with a person who is bart san alongside him. >> wait, there's more. prosecutors were calling on the appeals court to uphold the gag order on donald trump, who some might argue made the case calling jack smith, what was that word? deranged. claiming his wife and family despise me much more than he does, unquote. but up in of those cases has derailed his candy. the constitution says no problem to all those. and the constitution does not bar anyone co

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harrison floyd is a former aider of the group called black voices for trump.he state said floyd violated the terms of his bond order 17 times through the release of videos and tweets. they argue each one constitutes an act to intimidate known witnesses and direct communication with known witnesses violating conditions of his release. i want to bring in nbc's blayne alexander who's following this all from atlanta, danny se van danny cevallos is with me on set. what's the latest on these two issues facing the judge? >> what's so interesting about this and the way you laid it out is that d.a. fani willis has essentially put them under the same umbrella, even though they are two very different seeming issues, these two protections are necessary because she's trying to push back against what she is calling witness intimidation. let's start with that protective order, in response to those videos coming out and being made available to news media. she says that was witness intimidation. judge scott mcafee issued an order saying okay, this is a protective order. it was

>> reporter: harrison floyd is one of the 19 original co-defendants.wer profile of the co-defendants that's been charged in this case. but, you know, many people have described him as somebody who as a kind of problem child from the very beginning. he is the only one of the 19 co-defendants who spent any significant time in jail. head kind of a skirmish when he went to turn himself in with law enforcement. and so now the d.a.'s office is saying that he is violating and has violated multiple times the terms of his bond agreement. they pointed to his twitter feed, saying he tweeted a number of times, even mentioning the secretary of state, members of his office, other georgia officials, and the d.a.'s office said that amounts to witness intimidation. they want to shut that down. the other thing is that, you know, all of the people here are certainly being asked not to discuss this case. he went on a podcast at one point and talked about the plea deal with jenna ellis. the d.a. is pointing to a number of things she says violate the terms of the bond agree

even if harrison floyd's team did leak it, they did not break a law, but it's created enough of a headachee district attorney's office wants the judge to make a decision today. that will happen at 1:30. meanwhile, all of this is happening while we're getting predictions from fani willis who said that a trial for donald trump in georgia, she predicts will be under way during the 2024 presidential election and will take months, likely wrapping up in early 2025. sara? >> some of those revelations about the e-mail that went out and they said oh, that was an accident. this is putting witnesses in danger. i'm sure the judge will be looking at this very closely. thank you very much, nick valencia, for your reporting there. >>> this morning police in las vegas are calling the murder of a teenager just outside his high school, quote, void of humanity. 17-year-old jonathan lewis was beat tone death, and eight suspects ages 13 to 17 are now in custody. josh campbell is following this for us this morning. what are you learning? >> quite a description by police, a void of humanity. eight juveniles are

harrison floyd is the head of black voices for trump. he's accused of intimidating codefendants and witnesses with his social media post. sound familiar? of course it does, and fulton county district attorney fanny willis is appearing in court. here's an investigator reading in court, a tweet from floyd, this is what floyd wrote about the georgia secretary of state and a top election official. both are republicans who stood up against trump's election lies. >> the content is as follows, black american democrats want the black trump guy to tell on the racist white republicans but only if it's president trump lol, look, the truth is that, at gabriel stirling, are the pieces of and it's a -- >> can you spell the word. >> yes, it's an emoji of or fecal matter emoji. they are the pieces of that emoji, that you should be mad at. >> all right, i want to go to evan perez, he's been following this all day. and i'm saying, go straight after these pieces of you know what, the similarities cannot be overstated but it appears that the bar now is very

it surprises me harrison floyd would be so brazen as to continue to attack ruby freeman.ome of the tweets he's put up, but he seems to be repeat tweeting at her, despite the fact he's charged with trying to intimidate her. make it make sense. is he on his way perhaps back to lock-up? >> i think that there's a good chance that he is. the judge will certainly ask him to explain why these social media posts shouldn't be viewed as an effort to intimidate witnesses. in context of this case and the charges against him directly attacking this witness, tweeting at brad raffensperger, it's very difficult to view this as conduct that does not violate his pretrial release order. >> his response to it, in addition to that, is one part comical and seemingly not helpful. if i was his attorney, and i'm not an attorney, i don't know that i would be happy about it. here's what he tweeted in response to the motion to revoke his bond. clarence thomas was right. this is a circus. it is a national disgrace. it is a high-tech lynching for an uppity black. and he included video of clarence thom

the prosecution included 15 pages of harrison floyd's social media postings and interviews he has done outlets. an order to be released on bail, all the defendants agreed to, quote, not intimidate any person known to him to be a codefendant or witness in this case, and to, quote, not communicate in any way, directly or indirectly, about the facts of this case with any person known to him or her to be a codefendant, or, quote, any person known to him or her to be a witness in this case. the prosecution included 17 examples of defendant floyd publicly communicating directly to georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger, who is a witness in this case, and ruby freeman, a georgia election worker who is a witness in the case, as well as several public communications with codefendant jenna alice, who is pleaded guilty, and codefendant sidney powell, who is pleaded guilty. the prosecution's motion says, quote, because of an in response to the defendants intimidating communications, witness ruby freeman has been the subject of renewed threats of violence from third parties. joining us now i

of the threat, but fani willis had some trouble yesterday in a similar hearing with respect to harrison floyd his bond replication. he is one of the codefendants in that georgia r.i.c.o. case. he's a publicist associated with that weird episode in which a woman went down to try to get the two election coworkers to falsely confess. >> correct, and she had trouble demonstrating us today that harrison floyd's point -- post about this woman, ruby freeman, an election worker, were in fact threats. why, because there's nobody appointed by the government was writing them down or transcribing them. it should not be the case that you have to report to police to get the police involved for a judge to believe that is a credible threat that violates conditions of release or a gag order that is in place. >> look, the first one is really important. there are novel first amendment issues here, for the person running for president. there is something insidious here, catherine, that it's like when trump tweets mike pence did not have the courage while the mob is overflowing the capital, he knows what he is do

the criminal defense lawyers appearing for defendant harrison floyd, accused of trying to intimidatenesses in the case, did not find a way to object when just attorney willis called them liars. >> the absurdity of the defendant's argument, the defendant falsely claims that he does not know the witnesses. this is just a lie. there's no other thing to call it. >> the defendant didn't speak in the courtroom today. so it was the lawyers he was calling liars. and they all knew that. just between district attorney willis started off smoothly enough, methodically laying in the evidence that defendant harrison ford communicated directly and indirectly with witnesses and codefendants in the case, but the more she had to listen to what she called the lies of the defense attorneys, she became increasingly forceful, i guess you could call it, in her denunciation of those lies. >> my team asked me to tone it down because they referred to it as lunacy unasked i refer to it -- so no, he does not have the right to communicate about facts of this case with witnesses, which he did with jen ellis, whic

>> the judge found the defendant harrison floyd did indeed violate his bond agreement, but the judgeid not revoke his bail and put him in jail. instead the judge supervised a rewrite of the bond agreement to an even more strict ban on the defendant publicly mentioning any of the witnesses or codefendants in the case. joining us now, gwen keyes, for indigent tourney of dekalb county, georgia, and harry litman, former senior leader of legal affairs columnist for the los angeles times. glenn query keys, your experience working in that area, what did you make of that hearing today? >> first and foremost, the fact the d.a. willis handled it herself demonstrates to me that she is taking the protection of her witnesses, the protection of her team, and the integrity of this case very seriously and wants to ensure that the judge does as well. >> harry litman, this is two days in a row this week where we are in hearings about what criminal defendants, whether be donald trump or a codefendant of his, can say about witnesses and prosecutors and codefendants in the case. >> i think that's right.

harrison floyd served as the executive director of black voices for trump.s accused ofaking part in a plot to coerce a false confession from an election worker that donald trump had accused of trying to rig the vote against him. let's bring in nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian. and ken, floyd is the only co-defendant some may recall to spend some extended time in jail after he surrendered. he's now challenging the basis for his inclusion in this case and his attorneys are trying to get their hands on documents. what can we expect today? >> yeah, that's right, ana, and you know, "the atlanta journal-constitution" reported that floyd spent that time in jail because he refused an offer of bonds made in the lobby of the jail and basically begged to be booked in. that's according to a recording they obtained. he's a former marine who is charged in this case over allegations that he tried to intimidate election worker ruby freeman. floyd was also arrested in maryland on a federal warrant that accuses him of aggressively confronting two f

what more can you tell us about this harrison floyd situation?, ana, you said it right there. he was the only co-defendant to spend any amount of time in jail. some would call him essentially labeled as a problem child from the very start. he had a skirmish with law enforcement when he went to surrender initially, so he is certainly one of the lower profile of the 19 original co-defendants, but, yes, fulton county d.a. fani willis said in a motion that she signed herself yesterday that because he has been violating the terms of his bond agreement, she wants to put him back in jail. basically he has been tweeting, according to the d.a.'s office mentioning the secretary of state, brad raffensperger, things that the d.a.'s office says amount to witness intimidation. speakingutn a number of ways that are not allowed under the terms of his bond agreement. it's also certainly the d.a. sending a larger message to the other 14 remaining co-defendants that if they do violate the terms of this agreement that she won't hesitate to take some sort of action,

there's news about one of the codefendants, harrison floyd, what's going on with him? >> floyd is a former marine, charged over allegations he tried to intimidate election worker ruby freeman. this was over whether he can subpoena ball lots and other election records for his defense from the georgia secretary of state. he wants this material because he says president trump did not lose, and expects to present evidence. and should have been excluded from the final vote tally. these government agencies say, wait a second, this material is very personal and sensitive, and not relevant to harrison floyd's case. the judge seems skeptical, but he didn't make a ruling today, katy. >> ken dilanian, thank you very much. lisa rubin, suzanne craig, it's good to see all of you and have you here on set, ladies, i appreciate it. >>> up next, what hezbollah's leader said about october 7th and what he is threatened israel with. >>> is it free speech or intimidation, three students from three major universities join me to discuss the rise of hate on campus. we are back in 60 seconds. h

>> yeah, the fulton county district attorney's office has asked to revoke harrison floyd's bond.at legal motion just a few minutes ago for allegedly sending tweets that would violate the order of his bond. the outlines of his bond that were harassing to potential witnesses. we're not sure exactly the scope of the tweets yet. the order just came in. he has been very active on his twitter account. he has about 25,000 or so followers on x, and he's been very active on it. there's a lot of social media posts to go through right now. i expect some back and forth from the attorneys and the d.a. identifies and harrison floyd's attorneys on that very shortly. >> greg bluestein, as always, thank you for spending time with us. lisa rubin, your rare day off from being inside the trump courtroom, thank you for choosing to spend it here. when we come back, the director of the fbi today warning of a rogue's gallery of terror threats here in the united states, ever since the october 7th attack on israel. that hearing and the unusual turn it took from some of the house gop. that's next. that's n

so he is indicating he is likely not to throw harrison floyd in prison. he is asking the state and the defense for recommendations on how to be more explicit in the terms of his bond agreement, perhaps to have more restrict rules on what he can and cannot say on social media. fani willis objected to that saying look, harrison floyd can publicly criticize me all he wants. i don't care about his opinion. but he shouldn't criticize potential witnesses in this case. >> andrew weissman, are you surprised by what we just heard from the judge? >> i'm not. i think one area where fani willis did a very good job and one area where she needed to be tighter in her arguments is she did a really good presentation on how there was a violation here and laid out a lot of proof about either communicating directly or indirectly with a witness or co-defendant. and she had very good proof of that. she also had good proof respect to intimidation. the court of course was very interested in whether it was intentional, how direct or indirect it was. where i think that the parties

in this case he said that he believes that they can change the terms of harrison floyd's release conditions to specify that certain things, like these inflammatory statements that he has been making on social media, that those things are prohibited. in other words, giving him another chance to try to abide by the restrictions. of course, the prosecutor there who was personally involved today, she gave a very fiery presentation and she wanted him sent back to jail saying, this is beyond the pale. she was arguing that, you know, this is the kind of thing that does affect the way that you can see the jury and it intimidates witnesses. so, in the end, the judge decided that he deserves another chance and, you know, it's one of those things, the judge is always trying to make sure that they do not go beyond what they should do to allow witnesses -- i'm sorry, to allow defendants. >> the bottom line is it could have wide ranging implications not just for harrison ford but other defendants moving forward. donald trump. >> especially donald trump. >> thank you so much. coming up, as we await for th

they say harrison floyd's bond should be revoked. prosecutors tell the court, quote, the defendant's actions demonstrate he poses a significant threat of intimidating witnesses and obstructing the administration of justice in the future making him ineligible for bond. they declined cnn's request for comment he pleaded guilty to three charges. joining us now is a former federal prosecutor and current district attorney for westchester county in new york. and former district attorney in fulton county, georgia. i want to start with you. when you talk about what is being laid out here, there are more than a dozen public statements that violate the terms of the bond agreement. pull up some sweets, including one citing jenna ellis that they have also cited here. the judge in this case, what will they be weighing as they consider the request? >> the judge will be weighing, fist of all, the fact that the bond terms did specifically say that he was not to contact witnesses directly or indirect ly. so he doesn't have the excuse that this was a

lawyers for harrison floyd, they're suggesting their defense will include the accusation that the 2020lection was stolen. they are requesting thousands of documents related to the election. they want voting machine records and absentee ballots. is it likely they will get it? >> i think the judge has to hear the argument. there's one hand that says, listen, we're not having a trial within a trial about whether or not the earth is flat. the earth isn't flat. we're not going to litigate that. there's that argument. the other argument is the magnitude of materials to get and review and examine could be an extreme burr der. not only that, extreme time consumption. there's real issues, and i think the judge will give it a fair shake. if i'm the defense attorney, also, i don't want to be bu burdened with now saying, making this an election case in and of itself and relitigating that matter and basically taking that responsibility on my own to disprove. there's a lot of moving pieces, a lot of juggling, like all the other cases combined. the judge has to hear it. i think it's a very difficult

harrison floyd, that's his name.ay declined to trail him but set his bond agreement should be modified now to include more specific restrictions. which did not sit well with dea fani willis. >> it was given an opportunity to cooperate with the rules of his. case and what he'll be doing -- and refused to oblige by that conditions. we are really here to decide today, does this order mean something or not. but he doesn't give and, oh i'm sorry, after i'm already intimidated the witnesses in this case. it's too late. >> the judge called it a technical violation, going on to say, quote, not every violation compels verification. we'll be watching that case. and thank you all for watching. our live coverage continues in just a moment. >>> hello, and welcome. i'm paula newton in new york with our coverage of the war between israel and hamas. we begin this hour with breaking news out of israel. we were at the cabinet has approved a deal to release at least 50 hostages held by hamas in gaza. the government overwhelmingly back

she wants to send is harrison floyd back to jail because of his alleged actions to intimidate witnesses potential -- she's pointed to more than a dozen social media posts where he names georgia election officials likely going to be called as witnesses in this case. it's worth noting that floyd is alleged to try to intimidate one of the election work appears fr said in open court from his defense attorneys that his defense strategy is to relitigate the election results of the 2020 election. >> nick valencia, thank you. >>> senator jo manchin saying he's absolutely considering running for president next year. why he says he won't be a spoiler if he does choose to run. that's next. >>> top house democrats evacuated from dnc headquarters after police clash with protesters calling for a cease-fire in gaza. that reporting, ahead. the power goes out and we still have wifi to do our homework. and that's a good thing? great in my book! who are you? no power? no problem. introducing storm-ready wifi. now you can stay reliably connected through power outages with unlimited cellular data and up to

ha harrison floyd will not be sent to jail for his posts. >>> and appealing the state's 14th amendment ruling to keep trump's name on the ballot, the issue is whether its ban on insurrectionists applies to the presidency. >>> and the house judiciary committee has subpoenaed an assistant u.s. attorney in its hint hunter biden investigation. a whistleblower claimed that they stymied warrants and subpoenas. >>> and now to the weather. wind and heavy rain on the busiest travel day ahead of thanksgiving. and the weather is not done yet. allison chinchar is tracking all of it. and good morning. what should people heading out the door day be looking for? >> a little bit of everything. biggest problems are actually most and down the east coast on this southern side, the main concern here is the rain. some thunderstorms at times and even some gusty winds stretching from florida up through virginia. and on the northern side, the concern is rain that is heavy at times, but also some of that snow really starting to filter in across upstate new york, portions of vermont, new hampshire and even main

hear arguments that bond should be revoked for trump's codefendants the district attorney said harrison floyd violated bond conditions by trying to intimidate witnesses through posts on x floyd's attorneys say he was simply exercising his right to free speech. >>> the rolling stones are hitting the road they announced a north american stadium tour today that kicks off next april in houston. it comes after the band released its first original album in 18 years last month tickets go on sale december 1st. my guess is you are marking your calendar now. >> sponsored by the aarp, for those who love them. >>> coming up after the break, the ceo of abercrombie & fitch, up 200% for the year we'll break down the quarter and the state of the consumer when we're back in a minute >>> amid a slew of retail misses, there was a big upside surprise ak the stock is still down, the move doesn't detract from a more than 260% climb over the past year joining me now is abercrombie & fitch ceo fran horowitz. good to see you. >> good to see you, too, sara. thanks for having me. >> where is the momentum coming from in

mcafee ruled against a motion by district attorney fani willis to revoke the bond agreement of harrison floyday. willis argued that floyd's tweets about the case amounted to witness intimidation. as part of his agreement he was barred from communicating directly or indirectly with any witness. >> here the bond conditions are not arbitrary and capricious because the conditions are a reasonable response to the trial court's functioning of balancing the defendant's rights with the public safety interest while avoiding the intimidation of prosecution witnesses which was the exact purpose here. you can say you know what calling witnesses pieces of -- it don't even malter. i don't find that to be intimidating. do you find they communicated with codefendants? do you find they communicated with witnesses? if you find that, then you find he violated the bond order, and you have to decide do we have an interest as a society in keeping witnesses in this case safe? do we have an interest in ts case of keeping the other defendants from having a fair trial? >> but as nbc news reports, judge mcafee said the

meanwhile harrison floyd may become the first codefendant to have his bond revoked. floyd, a former leader of black voices for trump, is accused of harassing ruby freeman, who you'll recall was one of the fulton county election workers who had been falsely accused of election fraud by trump and his supporters. district attorney fani willis' office has submitted a filing asking to pull his bond agreement over his continued use of social media to attack witnesses and codefendants. the d.a.'s filing says the posts amount to witness intimidation. >>> elsewhere, newly revealed footage from the alec baldwin movie "rust" shows the actor firing and handing a gun before the shooting of a scene before that deadly shooting on set. it comes as baldwin is potentially facing new charges. nbc news has more. >> reporter: never before seen footage from the set of "rust" taken in the days before the fatal shooting of cinematographer helena hutchins. the clips obtained cleeks ussively by nbc news, show the actor preparing for scenes, firing weapons and interacting with crew members. >>

willis argues one of the trump codefendants, this individual, harrison floyd, should actually have hisd in jail before trial because of online posts because she and her office alleges amount to illegal witness tampering and intimidation. >> look at the evidence. he violated his court order, and there are real consequences for allowing defendants to intimidate witnesses. your honor, we're asking his bond be revoked and he be remanlded today. >> remanded today. his lawyer for go to jail right now that is big ask. judges weigh these kind of things on a case by case basis. but willis says floyd already targeted one of the victims allegedly according to the indictment been through so much at the hands of donald trump and his hench people, election worker ruby freeman. we covered her story back on the january 6th committee hearing, she's named in the indictment, and the d.a. discussing how floyd's lawyer was discussing what floyd posted about her. >> the level of threats since all this began for ruby and shaye have been quite high. >> and in fact as a result of these comments made by floyd i

district attorney fani willis wants bond revoked for this man, harrison floyd, over alleged witness intimidationserved as head of black voices for trump and was the only co-defendant to be behind bars for an extended period of time following his surrender. nbc's blayne alexander joins you outside the courthouse in georgia and also with us, glen kirschner. talk about the allegations at the center of this bid to revoke floyd's bond and how his legal team is responding. >> the d.a. says floyd has repeatedly violates the terms of his bond agreement. through a series of posts on social media and through a series of podcast appearances he has done what she says in her words amounts to a pattern of intimidation. she called out several instances, she said on social media he mentioned the secretary of state brad raffensperger, and another official in his office, but also ruby freeman, the election worker that faced lots of harassment after being targeted for her role counting votes, falsely targeted. and she is saying basically that because he was tweeting at her, that amounts to witness intimidation. al

fulton county district attorney fani willis argued harrison floyd violated terms of his release withmedia posts. the judge gave more rules about what floyd can and cannot post but allowed him to stay out of jail as he awaits trial. msnbc legal analyst, lisa rubin joins us. great seeing you. what are the new rules for floyd, and was this a win for him? >> it was a win insofar as he stays out of court. it was a loss, however, for floyd in that the restrictions on him today are much greater and much clearer than they were yesterday. he cannot make a public statement or social media post of any kind and the order delineates specifically which social media apps, for example, or what constitutes a public statement about any co-defendant, witness, or person specifically named in the indictment, and i think that really addresses fani willis's concern in particular about georgia election worker ruby freeman whose attorney testified that they upped her security in light of floyd's posts. >> yeah, and i mean, willis herself, the d.a. argument in court yesterday, this is the first time he's seen

the other piece of witness intimidation we're watching is harrison floyd.ndants, being threated th being put back in jail, having his bond revoked. he's one of the lower profile of the original codefendants, but somebody according to the d.a. has repeatedly violated the terms of his bond agreement. he has been tweeting, mentioning the secretary of state, other state officials, the d.a. says similar to the video leak amounts to witness intimidation, and she's trying to put a stop to it. the judge has set a hearing next week to hear whether or not the bond will be revoked. >> blayne alexander, thank you very much. >>> and coming up next, botox, what else congressman george santos spent campaign money on. oh... stuffed up again? so congested! you need sinex saline from vicks. just sinex, breathe, ahhhh! what is — wow! sinex. breathe. ahhhhhh! (bridget) with thyroid eye disease i hid from the camera. and i wanted to hide from the world. for years, i thought my t.e.d. was beyond help... but then i asked my doctor about tepezza. (vo) tepezza is the only medicine

one thing we're also watching for is according to a motion filed by the attorney for harrison floyd,aining co-defendants, the attorneyelieves that the person or persons responsible for actually leaking those videos will fess up to it today in court. it's still not determined whether or not we're going to see some sort of courtroom confession. we also don't know what floyd's attorney is basing that prediction on, but certainly that would be a major development. it will be very interesting to see if that does in fact take place when this hearing gets underway. >> we know it's expected to start anytime. so carol, what will the parameters be? what does a judge look at when deciding whether to grant a protective order in a case like this? >> right. in this case there was no existing signed order by the judge presenting the disclosure of discovery. i have to tell you it is so unusual in a criminal case for anybody to disclose any discovery because you -- first, you don't want to irritate the court, but also the discovery tends to be discovery that is not going to farewell for the defendant