and capitol police officer harry dunn joins me live after receiving a presidential award for protectingourage for institution and our people. >> i'm jonathan. capehart a brand-new hour of the sunday show starts now. >> president biden is in the air right now, heading to the u.s. next mexico border. he'll be meeting with local officials, managing the historic number of migrants seeking refuge in the united states. then the president will travel to mexico city for the north american leader summit. we will continue to cover the presidents trip to the border throughout the day on msnbc. now, on to our top story after the 15th round interparty fight over the speakers gavel. the republican house majority under the leadership of kevin mccarthy is the undisputed chaos caucus. and in a twist on conventional wisdom, the democrats want derided as being divided and in a disarray, stood united and for. and they did so around one person. >> house democrats will always put american values over autocracy. -- over bigotry. the constitution over the cold. democracy over demagogues. economic opportunity o

[applause] >> harry dunn. (applause.)is protective instincts to a higher purpose as a u.s. capitol police officer. on january 6th, 2021, he rushed to protect injured fellow officers fighting back insurrectionists. his powerful testimony describing violence and stinging racism laid bare the days facts for history, and his advocacy on behalf of officers battling lasting trauma is helping to ease the stigma around mental health in our nation. for defending the citadel of our democracy and for seeking truth and healing, we the people honor u.s. capitol police private first class harry a. dunn. (applause.) caroline edwards. (applause.) the granddaughter of proud military veterans, caroline edwards left a corporate career to follow in their footsteps serving our nation. on january 6th, 2021, she helped stop advancing insurrectionists, even after being knocked unconscious in the mobs first brutal surge. she has also fought for colleagues as a police union board member and peer counselor, and her congressional testimony will help

private first class harry dunn, from the united states capitol police. 14 years on the force. on that day, he was outside speaker pelosi's office, he stood guard protecting fellow officers who were already injured. he was fighting back insurrectionists across the capitol while being called the vialist racist names. his own congressman, a true constitutional scholar jamie ras kiln couldn't be here today as he recovers from cancer treatments but he called and wanted me to say the following and i wrote it down. officer harry dunn acted with remarkable courage and valor to defend both our institutions and our people. he went on to say, generations to come will think of him and these officers and thank them for their service. end of quote. officer edwards. five years on the force. u.s. capitol police. on the front lines of the mob's first surge. she stood there. she says, and i'm hope i'm correctly quoting you, you said it looked like a movie, it looked like a movie. sometimes in crisis, things look surreal. it looked like a movie. knocked unconscious, with traumatic brain injury.

fighting back insurrectionists across the capitol while being called the violent racist names. >>> harry dunnon. pierre thomas spoke with dunn about that day. >> january 6th. give me some words that come to mind. >> horror. dark. anger. betrayal. >> when the dark moments come how do they manifest, do you have flashbacks? >> i never lost sight of those visions that you had the flash bangs, the smoke, the calls on the radio. >> you posted something on twitter, back in september, that stopped me in my tracks, quote, i've been struggling the last few days. this weekend i had ptsd flareup it us scary i share this with the hope that someone who might read this who has been struggling. >> that moment in time hit me so hard because i made such good progress to heal and to be able to deal with these emotions and these feelings, i could walk in and not be phased by seeing somebody in a maga hat or a confederate flag but it was just like out of nowhere ripped away from me and it broke me. you know, it broke me. >> how did you find enough strength in a moment like that to tweet and think about other peop

harry dunn.out he was outside speaker pelosi's office, he stood guard protecting fellow officers who were already injured. he was fighting back insurrectionist across the capitol while being called the vilest racist names -- officer dunn acted with remarkable courage and valor to defend our people picky went on to say that generations to come will think of him and these officers, and thank them for their mac service but >> the president joe biden today is one of 14 recipients that were honored in our work of preventing the 2020 election from being overturned by disgraced president x pres. and his allies. including officer caroline edwards come the first edwardà mike injured byÃmedical washington bubble officer he was injured in the attack. -- the sergeant with the capitol bubble who was injured in the attack >> who led a pro-trump mob away from the entrance to the senate chamber. the got really close during the attack. daniel hodges, in washington bubble officer injured in the attack, his first t

we look forward to more of pierre's interview with officer harry dunn with george on abc. >>> we turn overseas tonight to the war in ukraine. air raid sirens sounding. the pentagon confirming russian forces are fighting despite vladimir putin saying he would enforce a 36-hour cease-fire for orthodox christmas. some children dress in the holiday costumes, singing carols to pass the time. ukrainian soldiers on the eastern front lines reporting artillery fire, saying nothing has changed. >>> and to london tonight, prince harry and the backlash from some of the military about what he allegedly reveals in his book about time on the battlefield. what he writes about his father and what charles allegedly said about meghan and money in the family. james longman from london tonight. >> reporter: tonight, more fallout from prince harry's memoir, "spare," as british media transle res afr the book miske on sale early in spain. the prince writing about his two deployments to afghanistan, and the number of taliban fighters he killed, saying, "i could always tell exactly how many enemy combatants i

for protecting citadel, we honor harry a. dunn. caroline edwards. [ applause ] the granddaughter of proud military veterans, caroline edwards left a corporate career to follow in their footsteps serving our nation. on january 6, 2021, she helped stop advancing insurrectionists even after being knocked unconscious in the mob's first brutal surge. she has also fought for colleagues as a police union board member and peer counselor, and her congressional testimony will help ensure their valor is never forgotten. for her courageous defense of our democracy and service to fellow officers, we the people honor u.s. capitol police officer caroline edwards. [ applause ] michael fanone. [ applause ] the grandison of a police officer, michael fanone was born to protect and seven. he took an off-duty call to the capitol on january 6, 2021, helping to drive insurrectionists away from a key tunnel and facing vicious attack. he immediately became one of the day's most outspoken truth seekers. for his absolute courage in protecting the capitol and

capitol police private first class harry a. dunn. [ applause ] >> caroline edwards. [ applause ] >> the grand daughter of proud military veterans, caroline edwards left a corporate career to follow in their footsteps serving our nation. on january 6th, 2021, she helped stop advancing insurrectionists even after being knocked unconscious in the mob's first brutal surge. she has also sought for colleagues as a police union board member and peer counselor and her congressional testimony will help ensure their valor is never forgotten. for her courageous defense of our democracy, and service to fellow officers, we the people honor u.s. capitol police officer caroline edwards. [ applause ] >> michael fanone. [ applause ] >> the grandson of a police officer, michael fanone was born to protect and serve. a decorated narcotics investigator, he took an off-duty call to the capitol on january 6th, 2021, helping to drive insurrectionists away from a key tunnel and facing vicious attack. he immediately became one of the day's most outspoken tru

. >> in the severity of their crimes -- >> reporter: capitol police officer harry dunn helped rappelhe attack that day and testified at trials and before congress. >> everybody needs to be held accountable. that can't happen. until there is accountability, it's a possibility that this could happen again. >> reporter: a grand jury investigating efforts to overturn the 2021 election is sitting and investigating at the federal courthouse in washington with key trump advisors as witnesses raising the prospect members of the trump inner circle could face future charges or even the former president himself. scott mcfarland, cbs news, washington. >>> still ahead on the "cbs weekend news," an arizona city leaves a neighboring community high and dry ending its water supply. >>> tonight 20 million as across 14 states are under winter storm warnings and advisories. an arctic front is set to drop snow from the rockies across the midwest and into the northeast on sunday. a sharp trop in temperatures also expected to follow. >>> and in the desantis soutwater is a precious commodity:for a rural tow

private first class harry dunn from the united states capitol police, 14 years on the force, on thatay he was outside speaker pelosi's office. he stood guard protecting fellow officers who were already injured. he was fighting back insurrectionists across the capitol while being called the vialist, racist names. his own congressman, a true constitutional scholar, jamie raskin, couldn't be here today as he recovers from cancer treatments, but he called and want med he to say the following, i wrote it down, officer harry dunn acted with remarkable courage and valor to defend both our institutions and our people. he went on to say, generations to come will think of him and these officers and thank them for their service. end of quote. officer carol edwards, five years on the force, u.s. capitol police, on the front lines of the mob's first surge, she stood there and she said -- i hope i'm correctly quoting you -- said, it looked like a movie. looked like a movie. sometimes in crisis things look surreal. looked like a movie. knocked unconscious with traumatic brain injury, she got back u

by the way, i also want to point out that harry dunn and daniel hodges were also getting the civilian medals today. interestingly, two women from georgia, who suffered so terribly, the two volunteers who were election volunteers and without any blame to themselves where there wasn't any fraud became vilified by their entire community with all kinds of threats against them. so that list that the president is going to be going through today of civilian honors is their way, the white house way of kmem rating january 6th, even as this is going on. the counterpoint is extraordinary. michael steele, we want to bring you back this to talk about what this means about the republican party, the factionalism is not shotgun that's going to be easily healed. >> it's not. and i think it's going to be important while republicans are standing up and cheering, the folks that are being flipped, it's probably mccarthy will survive this. but he will be a woefully weakened speaker leading a caucus where good 20 some are not soully and wholly behind him. there's going to be a lot of pressure from outside t

capitol police officer harry dunn. officer dunn will be among the 12 people president biden will today award the presidential citizens medal for exemplary contributions to our democracy surrounding january 6th. officer dunn, it's good to see you today. i'm curious what your thoughts are this morning, two years on from that terrible day? >> good morning, willie. thanks for having me on. you know, the first thing i thought about, you know, ironically with what's going on in the house right now, whatever anybody wants to call it, the irony of it is two years ago that's what my coworkers and i defended those members to have the right to do. no matter what anybody's thoughts about, you know, which way it's going. the fact that they have the right to be able to do that in a safe environment. is kind of what we provided them two years ago. it's ironic what's going on now. >> it's certainly ironic what's going on right now, and many of those people, by the way, who are standing in the well, and won't support kevin mccarthy, and

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and i thought about one of my favorite officers on the hill, officer harry dunn, who i talk to every time i see him. i thought about him and his story. and so i was there. but the fact that they couldn't show up, what type of leadership is that? they have said, joy, for two years that i have heard because i was there only for two years, we're going to lead. you know, when we take over, we're going to govern, we're going to show the democrats. democrats are also in disarray. we're going to show them how to govern. well, they have not done that. they have been there since tuesday and had two years to figure it out, and they had since november really since november to really, really figure it out and hone in on how to lead. this was not leadership because people lost their lives. people who showed up to work, you know, people who should be with us today. people who took their lives, you know, after this happened. people who lost so much after this. children who had to give a name on a microphone as i just heard madeleine speak about, and they could not show up. it's not leadership. >> a

officer harry dunn acted with courage and valor to defend our institutions and our people. he went on to say generations to come will think of him and these officers and thank them for their service. officer carroll edwards, five years on the force. u.s. capitol police. on the front lines of the mop's first surge, she stood there. she said, and i hope i'm correctly quoting you, you said it looked like a movie. sometimes in crisis things like surreal. looked like a movie. knocked unconscious with traumatic brain injury. she got back up to help hold the line. the granddaughter of two proud military veterans. she said it was her job to protect america's symbol of democracy. that building. akino. thank you, pal. glad you know your name. [laughter] he can called me president biden from now on if he wants. a proud immigrant from the dominican republic. 16 years in the force. like my son, an iraqi war veteran with the united states military, the united states army who described january since as something from a med evil battle. trying to keep insurrectionists from entering the tun

showing the dignity and grace of we, the people >> reporter: also honored, capitol police officer harry dunn, the target of racial slurs and harassment as he stood his ground that day. what do you hope the americans take away from this anniversary? >> how everybody has a job to do to protect this democracy everybody has a role to play. we can't just take this for granted >> reporter: two years later the fbi and justice department's investigation is still ongoing. more than 900 arrests and nearly 500 guilty pleas. authorities have not arrested an additional 250 rioters. wanted for assaulting officers on january 6. lester >> peter, thank you. >>> in 60 seconds, tributes pouring in for a surfer, a pioneer of the sport that conquered the world's biggest waves. his triumphs and this week's tragedy next. >>> and later, my conversation with our own al roker as he returns to work. what he says he learned from his health scare >>> back now with tragedy on the water a legendary surfer killed while catchin the giant waves off portugal's coast gabe gutierrez with the tributes pouring in for him tonight

officer harry dunne acted with courage to defend our institutions and our people.generations to come will think of him and these officers and thank them for their service. end of quote. officer carol edwards, 5 years on the force, us capitol police. on the front lines of a mob's first surge as he stood there, i hope i'm correctly quoting, you said it looked like a movie. looked like a movie. sometimes in crisis things look surreal. looked like a movie. knocked unconscious with traumatic brain injury, she got back up to hold the line. granddaughter of two proud military veterans, she says it was her job to, quote, protect america's symbol of democracy, that building. excuse me. acadinoglad you know your name. laughter and applause] >> president biden: he can calmly president bidden from now on. a proud immigrant from the dominican republic, 16 years on the force. like my son, and iraqi war veteran with the united states military, united states army. he described january 6th as something from a medieval battle. trying to creep -- keep insurrectionist from the tunnel

. >> reporter: also honored, capitol police officer harry dunn, the target of racial slurs and harassment as he stood his ground that day. what do you hope the americans take away from this anniversary? >> how everybody has a job to do to protect the democracy. everybody has a role to play. we can't just take this for granted. >> reporter: two years later the fbi and justice department's investigation is still on going. more than 900 arrests and nearly 500 guilty pleas. authorities have not arrest an additional 250 rioters. >>> tributes pouring in for a surfer, a pioneer of the sport that conquered the world's biggest waves. you his triumphs and this week's tragedy next. >>> later, my conversation with our own al roker as he returns to work. what he learned from his health scare. emergege tremfyantnt®. withth tremfya®®, most p peoplw 9090% clearer r skin at 1616 w. the majojority of pepeople sa% clearer skskin even atat 5 ye. serious s allergic reactions s may occur.r. trememfya® m may increasase your r risk of infnfectis serious s allergic reactions s may occur.r. anand lower yoyour abil

so i think what we have here is harry dunn is exactly right.at those levels of the giulianis, the pouls, the lynn woods, the roger stones, the alex jones, the patrick burns, mike flynns, all those individuals that were around president trump feeding him things that, you know, were just on this side of qanon. and you almost have to wonder, president trump talks -- former president trump talks about his big iq but he was so credulous to believe things that were deranged. and i think finding out how those were coordinated, how the money was coordinated especially on january 6th which the committee did a great job on that part, is fantastic but we never really got to who the coordinating elements at that second and third level beneath the president and what did he know about it. it was just very difficult to get that last line of data. >> difficult for congress. quite achievable for doj if they're so inclined. denver riggleman, claire mccaskill, thank you very much for being part of our coverage today. it's wonderful to see both of you. the persist

. >> harry dunn has been a capitol police officer for 13 years. i had a rifle that day, a long gun. and we were told that they wanted us to stay away from the crowds. so we took a position of advantage. we were overseeing the crowd. >> you had a military salt rifle, you show up, and you show up on the upper tier, looking down on this riot? what do you see? >> just seeing thousands and thousands and thousands of people. and they're continuing to come. these waves of them. and they are fighting with the officers down there. once on the frontline, you see the rioters down there, they have their weapons. they have hand grenades and smoke grenades. they had bare spray, they had gas masks on. they were prepared. they knew that this was going to happen. >> one officer, brian sicknick, died. about 150 police were injured. they were calling out the whole time, traders! join us! we are the good guys. we like -- >> they had a good way of showing that. >> how did it sound to you when they were like, where the blue lives matter guys, we love the cops, we are o

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capitol police officers, including harry dunn, showing their support, of their fallen colleague, and his family. and we're expected to hear six victim impact statements from his family, all striking a similar tone to the passage you just read from his mother, who spoke before the judge just moments ago. she directly asked khater, quote, how does it feel to be headed to jail because of a bold-faced lie? his mother asked for the maximum sentence who is facing one of the longest possible sentences of any january 6th defendant, for two counts of assaulting law enforcement officers. now, it's important to note that neither defendant is being charged with causing sicknick's death. the officer's family members say khater's actions, assaulting him with chemical spray, played a direct role. his brother craig said, quote, i wish i were not in the same room as you, as you make me physically sick. your actions that day led to the death of my kid brother who is by any measure more of a man than you will ever hope to be. so truly a heart-breaking day in the courtroom for officer sicknick's family,

again, i had that conversation with myself and officer harry dunn and gladys sicknick, the mother ofld us, i can't control the fringe members of my party. and so here we are. aubt year and a half out from that meeting, and kevin mccarthy is desperately seeking the speaker's gavel and cannot control the fringe members of his party. by definition, a leader should have a firm grasp on all the members of his party. he doesn't. he's not a leader. >> what does it say to you about that infamous trip he made down to mar-a-lago in the days after what happened here two years ago? >> i mean, that just goes to show you the type of person that kevin mccarthy is. you know, kevin mccarthy cares about kevin mccarthy. and his concerns lie in his professional future. he's the type of person who would in the immediate aftermath of this, you know, historic event, the attack on our capitol, would lay the blame at the foot of the president, former president donald trump, and then when he saw it as not being politically advantageous, not leading to the speaker's gavel, he goes down to mar-a-lago, kisses do

officer harry dunn worked with officer sicknick. the attack was vicious and he was called racial slurs and the former president is responsible for what happened. >> he needs to be held accountable. they are the forth accountability. jobina: today, officer dunn will be at the white house to receive the presidential civilian award from president biden. the second highest civilian award in the country. president biden will also present the award to state and local officials who resisted former president trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election, including a former speaker of the arizona house. kumasi: abc news will have a special report at 11:00 a.m. when president biden gives out the awards. you can watch it right here on abc 7 and wherever you stream. reggie: gavin newsom will be inaugurated to his second and final term in the office. there will be a march through sacramento to the state capitol. today was intentionally chosen to mark the second anniversary of the violent attack on the u.s. capitol. their ceremony is meant to "st

harry dunn worked with officer sicknick. he says the attack was vicious. he was called racist slurs and says that former president trump is responsible for what happened that day. >> he needs to be held accountable. and that is why if all eyes are on the -- that is why all eyes are on the justice department right now. they are the ones who can bring forth account ability. >> today, officer done will be at the white house to receive the presidential civilian award from president biden. it is the second highest civilian award in the country. officer sicknick will receive the award, posthumously. president biden will present the award to state and local officials who resisted trump's efforts to resist the 2020 election, including rusty bauer, speaker of the arizona house. reggie: abc news will have a special rapport at 11:00 a.m. where president biden gives out those rewards. you can watch it on abc seven wherever you stream. kumasi: the nfl canceled the bills-bengals game. that was canceled after damar hamlin suffered cardiac arrest on the field. this mornin

capitol police officer harry dunn speaking out earlier today. >> it is really important to me that the and people responsible for what happened on that day are held accountable because, like, we were not just police officers that day, we were also victims of an attack and assault. as a people and as a country. >> this week, the estate of capital police officer brian -- allowed a lawsuit -- the wrongful death suit seeks $10 million each from trump and two riders who injured him. around another dozen police officers have sued the former president in his role in the former president. joining me now is the president and executive director for the lawyers committee for civil rights under law -- let's start with an update on the case. what progress have you made in court? >> we have fully briefed what we call -- trump and some of the other defendants want to get the case kicked out of court and we have vigorously defended that and we are waiting on the court to decide. meanwhile, some of the criminal prosecutions happened and their offensive delays in the case as oath keepers and proud boys

several of officer sicknick's colleagues will receive at medal includes officers eugene goodman, harry dunnor and nbc news presidential historian, michael beschloss. thanks for joining us. >> of course. >> it is hard to believe it is the second anniversary of the january 6th assault and it's such a huge, traumatic, dark day that sometimes it's hard to keep things like this in historical perspective. give us your thoughts now as we are two years from that moment. >> well, jonathan, just as you say, been two years, let's go back two years, what if that insurrection, that attack on the capitol, on congress had succeeded? you know, let's say that the rioters were a little bit faster and put the lives of nancy pelosi, the then speaker and the vice president at the time mike pence in danger, they could have been killed. there could have been a hostage situation. there could have been more violence, there are signs donald trump might have declared martial law. there's some people who think that donald trump as president might have even talked about suspending the inauguration of joe biden in 2021.

. >> and by the way, there are police officers who are utterly heroic, i think of harry dunn, michael fanone. where is the national support for them? from what i understand, michael fanone gets screamed at, spat on, and called a traitor for telling the truth about the brutality that was meted on him. when you come out and you try to tell the truth, if you're that good officer, that good guy that wants to be a hero in your community, you are taking a risk by speaking out, and there is no support out there for you that if you go along and get along, you hang with the crowd and in a way that's how you keep yourself safe. that is not policing. that's something that i don't think we should be paying for with our tax dollars. black folks pay tax dollars too. thank you both very much. >> up next on "the reidout," the release of footage of the brutal beating of tyre nichols actually raises more questions than it answers. "the reidout" continues after this. lomita feed is 101 years old. when covid hit, we had some challenges. i heard about the payroll tax refund that allowed us to keep the peo

. >> also honored, capital police officer harry dunn, the target of racial slurs and harassment as he stood his ground that they. >> what do you hope the americans take away from this anniversary? >> how everybody has a job to do to protect this democracy. everybody has a role to play. we can't just take this for granted. >> two years later, the fbi and justice departments investigation is still ongoing. more than 900 arrests and nearly 500 guilty pleas. but authorities have not yet arrested 250 other rioters, wanted for assaulting officers on january six. >> our thanks to peter alexander for that report. still to come, president biden will visit the u.s. mexico border tomorrow, with title 42 issue. we are going to discuss that after the break. plus, could inflation be cooling off? what newly-released numbers show, next. show, next detect this: living with hiv, i learned i can stay undetectable with fewer medicines. that's why i switched to dovato. dovato is for some adults who are starting hiv-1 treatment or replacing their current hiv-1 regimen. detect this: no other complete hiv pi

i think that officer harry dunn, who many of us have gottenen to know well, he's been so vocal about this and was present at all the january 6th committee hearings as well, what he said today is that all of these members who are locked in these negotiations and holding this speakership from kevin mccarthy are able to do that safely ear in the capitol because of the work that the capitol police continue to do today, just as they did on january 6th. i think it's a parallel that we cannot let go unspoke about. the fact that today is that day. so many of the key players then are key players now. >> we have heard fwr people who were there that day, people who are police officers who never expected to be in a situation that they were in. their colleagues in some cases lost their lives say what we're seeing, the ability to have this meeting today, to have this vote is because of what we did. they are proud of that. they believe they fought for democracy here. and yet, you wonder, as you look forward, what can get done and we talked a lot about what's the motivation for some of these members

and you used testimony from harry dunn and officer ganell and officer hodges in the very first publicem on this program that they will not view this as complete or as accountability as having taken place in america until donald trump is held accountable by merrick garland's justice department. do you think they will see justice? >> again, i don't know what the department is going to do. i think if they base their decision on the facts and the law, there's a likely criminal charge. i know that the officers, as you have said, nicole, are very invested in this. they were at every hearing before them, the witnesses from our first hearing, mike fanone, daniel hodges, they were all sitting there in the front row. they brought sean penn one day, which was a little weird, surreal for us, so they're very invested. look, they put their lives on the line. there are a lot of men and women just like them. caroline edwards who testified blood on the -- these are heroic people who were put in a heroic position by their leadership, that fought valiantly to defend not only themselves but all of us. th

. >> harry dunn, stationed on the capitals each side, racist to help his comrades on the west, and is you see these officers come up the steps, being dragge up the steps. ofo i can't see, almost in te tears, "help me, help me," and they are walking with their arm for because you can't see. >> who had supervisors there on white shirts. they were orange stand, because of the orange of the pepper spray and they are just soaked with just orange spray if it is just like health, help! you and officers coming up the steps bloodied. and you are thinking to you yourself, oh, my god, what is happening? and just sitting there fearing some of these officers faces. and that shows presence of mind because i was scared. absolutely scared. just seeing that fear. it's something i don't think i'll ever forget. >> a full-scale riot is underwa outside the capitol. leading the rally down some and anthony, yvonne cyr has no idea wait for her. >> and i was excited to get to the capitol. oh six sided to see what was going to happen. sweat 1:11 we started marching. >> 1776. alex jones, the conspiracy profitee

. >> i spoke to officer harry dunn today, it isn't always about race, it's always about reform. it's always about the need nor police reform. the questions can sound shallow. the president's commitment for reform doesn't ebb and flow with individual tragedies but is there a greater momentum or an opportunity to try to restart talks, especially with the new republican leader? >> as you know, the president sent the george floyd police reform act to congress shortly after he arrived. he's been working on that. we haven't had success in getting it through the congress and when that got stopped, he did something no president had done, he issued an executive order, reforming the federal law enforcement aspects, and insisting on limits on the use of choke holds, body cameras, other aspects to try to minimize and reduce and eliminate ultimately this type of violence. we're going to renew that call. we're going to press congress to take that up. i'm not naive. i understand how hard this is, we have been working on this for two years, but i hope that the fact that we continue to have thes

police officers who responded to the january 6th insurrection pleaded with congress, his name is harry dunn to find the people who hired them and sent them. and it seems that your law enforcement and legal work so far, you've found the person who hired four people to go out and shoot at democratic election officials. i wonder what you think about getting to the root of what you're talking about, the lies about election denialism. this was an individual that didn't lose in a close election. it's my understanding he lost by 50 percentage points. do you think that someone who lost by 50 percentage points would resort to violence if the national conversation wasn't dominated in one party by conversations of rigged and stolen elections? >> i can't speak with any kind of certainty toward that, but i can tell you that what happens when we have this kind of of extremism, postings about politics and elections, unfortunately this may be the result of exactly that. you can see from his postings in the past that this is a man who walked up to literally the homes of some of these elected officials to co