let's listen to john kelly. jim mattis believes the president is too quick to use the military after the protest. the president should respect the constitution, listen to the point john kelly makes. >> he's quite a man jonah mattis, for him to do that tells him where he is relative to the concerns he has for our country. >> do you agree with him, john? >> i agree with him. i think we need to step back from the politics and look harder at who we elect and we need to start all of us regardless of what our views are in politics and look for people who are running for office. what is their character like and what are their ethics? >> remarkable words but to come from a general who served in the west wing with the president of the united states questioning his ethics and character. >> we have all --s can you hear me? >> you are good. >> we can hear you. >> hello? >> can you hear me? >> i can hear you now, julie. >> as you mentioned there has been so many of these moments whether there is going to be a breaking point

john kelly said he agreed and we need to look harder at who we elect. and gop senator lisa murkowski said it is time to speak out and she is struggling with who to support in november. joining me now with their reporting and insights on all of this is maggie haberman of "the new york times," cnn's abby phillip and cnn's jeff zeleny. abby, to you, you were, you know in the streets reporting, you covered the white house for a long time. i'm guessing you're not surprised by what you're seeing and hearing from this president. >> no, not at all. and this is a president who has instinctively tried to make almost everything about himself and he did it in such a dramatic fashion when he decided essentially to do that photo-op in front of st. john's episcopal, clearing the streets with tear gas. i think what we have seen as a result is that that move has really galvanized people all over this country to take it upon themselves to speak out. yesterday in washington, you know, those crowds were as much a kind of anti-trump crowd as they were an anti-racism and ant

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former trump white house chief of staff, retired marine general john kelly today adding his voice to the chorus of former top trump officials not just dismayed with president trump's handling of the current crisis but worried. kelly agreeing with former defense secretary james mattis' withering assessment of trump as someone who seeks to divide the american people, someone not mature enough to run the country, saying, quote, i think we need to look harder at who we elect. what is their character like? what are their ethics, unquote.

he was backed up by john kelly in remarkable q and a with anthonyscaramucci. >> he's quite a man. >> agree with him john in. >> i agree with him. i think we need to look harder at who we elect. i think we should start, all of us, regardless of what our views on politics. i think we should look at people that are running for office. >> the president at odds with former military leaders, including some that worked for him, is where we start today. john kelly, former white house chief of staff, saying one, he agrees with secretary mattis, who among other things compared donald trump's pension for division with the nazis, saying he agrees with them and it matters who we elect. how is that going over today at the white house? >> the president is interested in doubling down on the way that he wants to handle the protesters. he's doubling down on the idea that the u.s. law enforcement including the national guard and people in military gear should be the ones policing people who are peacefully protesting. there are current and former generals say they are worried america is turning into an a

don't respond to lisa murkowski, don't respond to john kelly.know this president can't do that. what about around the country? what about the president's base? he counts on the support of people who respect -- i'm sorry, i need to go to the governor of new york, andrew cuomo. ladies, thank you. >> melissa de rosa, secretary to the governor to her left, robert mecum, budget director. it was another long and ugly night in the united states of america last night. as it was in new york state. day 97 of the coronavirus crisis, day 12 of the civil unrest dealing with the aftermath of mr. floyd's murder. and this, my friends, is a dangerous combination. colliding crises compounding each other. but our job is to address what is presented, and this is the reality that is presented, and this is what we will deal with. on the coronavirus situation, there is a lot to learn from what we just went through, and i believe it's a transformative situation in society and something we can learn from going forward. it was a public issue, it was a medical issue, but

featuring several powerful speeches. >>> also, president trump goes after his former chief of staff, john kelly, after kelly suggested that trump forgot the circumstances around mattis' white house departure. >>> and attorney general bill barr is defending the forceful removal of peaceful protesters ahead of the president's photo op in front of a church on monday. ♪ >>> good friday morning,

>> and john kelly also said if he had stilled him to white house chief of staff he would've advised presidentrump against making that walk to st. john's church on monday night. bret. >> bret: kristin fisher live on the north lawn, kristin, thanks, let's get analysis on the economy from susan li fox business in new york, good evening, susan. >> good evening, bret, the stock rally the biggest surprise and labor market history and instead of losing a million jobs, they added over 2.5 million and that helped with the nasdaq with a record high and s&p 500 within 1% of going positive on the air with that dow to cross 27,000. >> so we will be asking for a payroll tax cut. we will ask for additional stimulus money because once we get this going it will be far bigger and far better than we've ever seen in this country. we are looking at doing something in terms of incentive with taxes, deductions or something else. we will be announcing pretty soon. >> americans because company apple hit record highs friday with shares of home depot being down like airlines rarely do. american airlines up 75% over the

trump versus the generals: tonight, what the president's former chief of staff, general john kelly, is saying about the blistering critique of former defense secretary general james mattis. open for business: crowds hitting the casinos as las vegas reopens in a big way, even as cases rise in 19 states. a mural for justice: steps away from where george floyd died, we speak to the artists who brought hope to a community in need. and a conversation with community leaders here about a moment they say has already changed us as a country. >> this is the "cbs evening news" with norah o'donnell, reporting tonight from minneapolis. >> o'donnell: good evening. and thank you for joining us. it has been a day of raw emotion here in minneapolis as this city and the country mowrnd a man whose death has inspired a movement. we are witnessing it right now. tonight, we are just steps away from where george floyd died 10 nights ago, as minneapolis police officers pressed their knees do into his neck and body. and as we visited with members of the community today, we were struck by how many people now co

i had this discussion with john kelly and i said, this is a staff problem. he said, no, it's not. i say in the book and i believe it. kelly was right and i was wrong. the confusion, the lack of systematic analysis and study on the part of the president makes it very hard to have a successful, long term, sustained policy. so the united states suffers damage from that whether you agrow with the policy or not because we get a reputation for people being fickle and inconsistent. that harms the united states no matter what direction the policy is in. >> there's a long list in your book of white house officials who clearly failed to impose any order, specific influence on the president, i got a list h.r. mcmaster, reince priebus, steve bannon, rex tillerson among them. why do you think they failed in their effort to have some serious discipline over there? >> i think there were a lot of different reasons. i don't think it was necessarily inevitable we're in the chaos that we are now. other people tell me that even today that is a fatuous idea. trump will be trump and nothing can correct

of staff john kelly said he agreed entirely with jim mattis, that the president represents a threat to the constitution. he went further. said, i think we need to look harder what who we elect. their ethics. are they willing to represent all their constituents, not just their base. >> jonathan karl with us all week long. thank you. >>> so many of the rallies in this country they're shouting another name as well, including breonna taylor, who would have turned 27 today. back in march she was shot eight times as she slept in louisville. the protesters demanding, say her name. here's deborah roberts. >> reporter: tonight, demands for justice, as the fbi investigate breonna taylor's killing at the hands of police. >> say her name! >> breonna taylor! >> say her name! >> breonna taylor! >> reporter: today she would have turned 27. the young emt, had dreams of being a nurse. >> breonna was full of life. she loved life. she'd light up a room. >> for courtney riley, this feels personal. she also turns 27 this year, too. >> it's really hard. i do see myself in her. people talk about it could

chris: but it's not just john bolton, he joins a list including rex tillerson, jim mattis and john kellye top officials not only breaking with the president but questioning his fitness for office? mercedes: look, i worked with john bolton while at the white house -- >> chris: i'm asking you about all four of them, mercedes. mercedes: look, at the end of the day john bolton is disgruntled because of the fact that president trump did not follow his direction. john bolton lacks credibility just like president george bush -- >> chris: what about john kelly? mercedes: these are individuals that didn't agree with the president's policy when it came to foreign policy in general. so at the end to have day it's not rex tillerson or john kelly or secretary mattis who make these decisions, it's president trump and president trump is going to listen to his advisers at the end of the day, but he's the ultimate decision-maker when it comes to foreign policy. guess what, because of president trump we have ended the endless wars. he's the one that's been able to work on trade deals with china. you talke

president's former defense secretary. >> i think we need to look harder as who we elect. >> reporter: john kelly said if he was still chief of staff he would have argued against clearing the street of proert protesters for the president's photo op at st. john's church. >> i would have argued that the end result that have was predictable. >> reporter: "the wall street journal" editorial board wrote that trump's demand for personal loyalty and his thin skin clashed with people who care about larger causes. that breaking point could have consequences for the president's support within the republican party. the gop only has a three-seat majority in the senate but after senator lisa murkowski said he was struggling with whether to support trump in november, he vowed to campaign against her and support any candidate with a pulse. and another feud may be brewing for the president. today d.c. mayor muriel browser wrote a letter requesting that he remove all extraordinary federal law enforcement and military presence from washington, d.c. trump responded by calling her up incompetent and said if she does

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but today news there were scathing words from his former chief of staff as well, general john kelly. >> reporter: former chief of staff john kelly said he agreed entirely with jim mattis that the president represents a threat to the constitution. then he went a little further. he said, i think we need to look harder at who we elect. what is their character like? what are their ethics? are they willing to represent all of their constituents, not just the base? a clear shot at his former boss. david? >> jon karl, thank you. >>> at so many of the rallies in this country they're shouting another name as well, breonna taylor, who would have turned 27 today. back in march she was shot eight times while she slept in her bed in louisville. the protesters across this country demanding, say her name. here's deborah roberts. >> reporter: tonight, demands for justice as the fbi investigate breonna taylor's killing at the hands of police. >> say her name! >> breonna taylor! >> say her name! >> breonna taylor! >> reporter: today she would have turned 27. a young emt who had dreams of being a nurse

king's march on washington. >>> also president trump's former chief of staff john kelly is speaking outn support of former defense secretary jim mattis after jim mass criticized the president's handling of nationwide protests this week. in an interview with the "washington post" kelly dismissed trump's claim that he had fired mattis from his post in 2018. kelly told the paper this, quote, the president did not fire him. he did not ask for his resignation. the president has cleared forgotten how it actually happened or is confused. he went on to say the president tweeted a very positive tweet about jim until he started to see on fox news their interpretation of his letter, then he got nasty. jim mattis is an honorable man. so trump of course later hit back on twitter writing this, john kelly didn't know i was going to fire jim mattis, nor did he have any knowledge of my asking for a letter of resignation. why would i tell him? he was not in my inner circle, was totally exhausted by the job, and in the end just slinked away into obscurity. they all want to come back for a piece of the lim

that seems to be an indication that john kelly from inside the white house is one of those people who is on his way, as i expected most of them to be, to getting into that space where they will be publicly turning against donald trump and saying, you know, every day i was in there, i was trying to save the country from him doing something horrible. but john kelly has an awful lot of time where he spent trying to enable donald trump. >> that is the critique of general kelly, that he didn't speak up when there were things that people, especially critics telephone president have found to be appalling and to be not constitutional. and against international law. that being said, i think the idea that this is at least beginning to be a revolution of the generals is really key and really remarkable, because president trump is someone who likes to talk about my generals. he likes to talk about the fact that he has these kind of people around him who have gravitas and who are steeped in this military armor and this military background to in some ways beef himself up, people would say. that bei

. >>> the president's former chief of staff john kelly agrees with jim mattis that trump is a threatthe u.s. constitution. mattis delivered a harsh rebuke and stark warning as nationwide protests have intensified over the death of george floyd. mattis says that president trump is, quote, the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the american people. today, john kelly not only defended mattis but said that he agrees with him. >> he's quite a man, general jim mattis for for him to do that tells you where he is relative to the concern he has for our country. >> do you agree with him? >> i agree with him. i think we need to step back on the politics. i think we need to look harder at who we elect. i think we should start, all of us, regardless of what our views are in politics, i think we should look at people that are running for office and put them through the filter. what is their character like? what are their ethics? >> carl burnstein is a cnn political analyst. carl, i wonder what you're thinking when you hear john kelly say that, especially considering, he worke

he joins a list including rex tillerson, jim mattis and john kelly. lain this list of top officials, all of those in the national security area, not only breaking with the president, but questioning his fitness for office? >> mercedes: i worked with john bolton while i was at the white house and he never shared with me -- >> chris: i'm asking you about all of them. >> mercedes: i can tell you -- look, at the end of the day, john bolton is disgruntled because of the fact that president trump did not follow his direction. john bolton lacks credibility just like president george bush -- >> chris: what about rex tillerson and jim mattis and john kelly? >> mercedes: these are individuals who did not agree with the president's policies when it came to foreign policy in general. at some of the end of the day, it's not rex tillerson or john kelly or secretary mattis who make these decisions. president trump and president trump is going to listen to his advisors at the end of the day, but he's the ultimate decision-maker when it comes to foreign policy, and gue

that seems to be an indication that john kelly from inside the white house is one of those people whos on his way, as i expected most of them to be, to getting into that space where they will be publicly turning against donald trump and saying, you know, every day i was in there, i was trying to save the country from him doing something horrible. but john kelly has an awful lot of time where he spent trying to enable donald trump. >> that is the critique of general kelly, that he didn't speak up when there were things that people, especially critics of the president, found to be appalling and to be not constitutional and against international law. that being said, i think the idea that this is at least beginning to be a revolution of the generals is really key and really remarkable because president trump is someone who likes to talk about "my generals." he likes to talk about the fact he has these kind of people around him who have gravitas and who are steeped in its military armor and this military background to in some ways beef himself up, people would say. that being said, what y

john kelly former chief of staff basically supporting mr madison in this assessment so i think what's missing here for many many people former administration members politicians democrats anyway but also even republicans and for the people here in washington and everywhere else is that this straw man added to this law in order president. the president tries to portray or tries to inject inject into what's going on in america it's not really working not at all nobody sees any leadership here. to war it's what is really happening in this country and what needs to happen many say in this country and this is dialogue dialogue and real change against systemic racism in this country. in the light of that assessment that there's no real leadership right now will put protesters be able to maintain the momentum of this protest movement in the u.s. maybe leading up also to the president in the presidential elections later this year. that's there's a key question in a many levels actually but to keep this fairly simple i think for the next 2 days until george floyd will be actually burry it on.

imagine, president trump's former homeland security and chief of staff former marine general john kelly with mattis and is now saying we need to look harder at who we elect. kelli refused to acknowledge the demonstrations were filled with violence. the arsonist had ran the streets and so many businesses were destroyed and those peaceful protest. in which the mayors handcuffed law enforcement forcing them to stand down which allows looters and thieves and arsonist and in some cases killers to run rampant. both mattis and kelli served under president trump, the law and order president. and they have chosen this moment to try to undercut the president of the united states. including by the way the defense secretary who decided that he knows better than the president about whether or not it is necessary to invoke the act -- it is just amazing to me what we witnessed over this week. our adversaries around the world are surely cheering their subversion and undercutting the president of the united states raking with the chain of command in their insubordination does not end with the former cab

john kelly said that in that clip that we need to think harder about who we elect. shortly after donald trump was elected, he agreed to join the president's cabinet as homeland security secretary and as chief of staff. there is a little bit of a why didn't this occur to him at the time. i don't think trump has changed all that much in terms of character. secondly, mattis and kelly when they were both in this administration were fairly close. i it should not be a surprise they agree on this. i watched a lot of this conversation he had. this is still a man, he's criticizing the president in a strong language we have seen anybody criticizing someone they used to work for. he still does not want to go too far in this criticism which goes to show people like him who has a military background, the bar is very high for them to agree to come out and criticize the president of the united states which i think tells you a lot about how far we have come and what the president did this week and how that affected people in the military world. >> yeah, they're breaking norms and t

. >> you say in the book trump asked general john kelly finland was part of russia. lten wanted to get this information out for reasons other than his own personal profit, he should have testified before the house and senate. >> trump campaign released a statement saying botten is disgracefully ending his career by putting his own selfish financial interest through lies over the interest of the country. >> the trump administration wanted a federal judge to put a halt to it. streamincbs,ans ecy impact and the new hope the lock down is lifting. >>> and let's take a live lookout side before we head to break. this is from our cram on treasure island looking out at san francisco on this monday morning. it's 4:42. we'll be right back. >>> the san jose hurricanes are training this week. they'll basically be in a bubble and all be tested every other day and anyone who test positive will be quarantined. no guests or family members will be allowed to visit. the earthquakes are training for a world cup style tournament. >>> meanwhile, the nba is to trap the virus. smart some do

on cnn's state of the union, collin powell added his voice to a group that includes jim mattis, john kelly, retired general john alan, among others. listen to this. >> look at what he has done to divide us. forget immigrants, let's put up a fence in mexico. he's insulting us throughout the world. he's being offensive to our allies. he's not taking into account what our foreign policy is and how it's been affected by his actions. yes, i agree with all of my former colleagues. and i've been out of the military for 25 years. and so i'm watching them closely because they were all junior officers when i left. i'm proud that they were willing to take the risk of speaking honesty and speaking truth to those who are not speaking the truth. >> all right, mr. secretary, these are all retired u.s. generals and admirals. let me give you a chance to respond to general powell. >> first of all, it misses the point about what's going on here. the insurrection act, which is what he's referring to being invoked, has been used 20 different times since it was drafted and the president made it very clear that

you know, john kelly wasn't just a chief of staff.esident's secretary of home land security. not to mention general in the marine corps. someone who is prominent in this administration and very close to the president. and also very close to james mattis, another fellow marine general of his who spoke out yesterday. he has taken over the past few days, katy. >> shannon pettypiece. thank you very much. we just saw the president leave air force one and what is a very windy bangor, maine, today. chuck? certainly not going to be happy about his former chief of staff continuing to go against him. he doesn't like any criticism whatsoever as we saw with the way he targeted lisa murkowski today. he may be -- maybe he will because he's in a better mood about the jobs report, he may leave john kelly alone for a little bit. who knows? >>> speaking of those -- that jobs report and those numbers, surprised every economist out there. unemployment rate fell to 13.3%. here to explain, jarrod bernstein. jarrod, i have a sunday show likes to say, man, h

quickly, his former chief of staff john kelly, also a former general said "the president did not firesk for his resignation, the present has clearly forgotten how it actually happened or is confused, jim mattis is an honorable man. clearly has a lot of supporters, mattis does, in both capitol hill and in the military, what's the fallout from all of this? >> i'm not sure how much fallout there is at all, mattis is clearly a better tactician than he is a politician and his tactics were also in dispute when it came to how he was handling the situation in syria and iran but thinking about the content of what he said, he was saying that donald trump is not unifying the country and this is something that pleased a lot of people who said yes, donald trump isn't unifying the country. i think the problem is that the grounds for unity right now are being set by a mob that is demanding subservience to a very far left wing position, jonah said that 95% of the country opposes rioting, unfortunately a poll came out and something like 17% of people think rioting and looting can be justified, it's da

that's the kind of thing mattis was talking about and the kind of thing john kelly, his former chief of staff who was very close with mattis, stood by in an interview today. >> he certainly did. let's not forget james mattis was not only president trump's first defense secretary but a retired four-star marine corps general as well. dana and van, guys, thanks very much. please be sure to join van and erica hill tomorrow morning as they team up with the cast of "sesame street" for an important conversation with kids about racism, the nationwide protests, and diversity. saturday morning, 10:00 a.m. eastern, right here on cnn. >>> up next, new details emerging about attorney general bill barr's role in the crackdown on protesters here in the nation's capital. >>> and we're also following the continuing protests across the united states over the death of george floyd. at carvana, no matter what car you buy from us, you get the freedom of a 7-day return policy. this isn't some dealership test drive around the block. it's better. this is seven days to put your carvana car to the test and se

then you've got john kelly who he dismissed.this is nasty stuff to watch former generals and a defense secretary make fools of themselves and trying to undercut the commander in chief. >> well, lou, we have seen the military industrial complex since the day donald trump won fight him every step of the way. they have made a lot of money having endless wars in afghanistan and iraq. this president said let's bring our troops home. we know that a mattis and kelly, if they had their way, they would keep trooped there in perpetuity. this president said let's bring our men and women home, they don't need to be there anymore and, look, the generals love war. this president loves peace. we've, by and large, seen peace over the last four years overseas. he wants to bring our men and women home, and they make a lot of money keeping them cover seas. lou: dave, should the president fire esper, fire milley? >> well, i think the president's probably had some very tough conversations with them, that you're onboard or you don't need to be part o

that the president is dividing the country, support for that now from former chief of staff from john kelly kelly is disputing the fact that mattis was fired by president trump saying that the president clearly forgot how this happened president trump tweeting that kelly didn't know he was going to fire mattis and also saying that asking for mattis' resignation was more of a courtesy so the president pushing back on former secretary james mattis but others saying it's not the right course to bring in active military to deal with these demonstrations >>> the murder trial can proceed with the charge against ahmaud arbery travis mcmichael used a racial slur after shooting arbery >>> charged with murder, three men will now be standing trial for the death of ahmaud arbery and it comes after new details revealed in court. >> a shocking accusation of a racial epithet after arbery was shot. >>> before police arrival while mr. aubrey was on the ground >> reporter: the man who recorded the shooting accused of travis mcmichael saying the if egoin word >> it's difficult to hear. >> the family's attorne

the spectrum that runs from very reticent jim mattis, john kelly who were part of this administrationo people like me kind of in the center, to people like general john allen and bill mccraven who were quite critical that jumped and felt that shock to clear peaceful protesters. wrong answer. >> i am curious, it struck me today being nato supreme allied commander, you didn't live in the united states. you lived overseas. being an american diplomat overseas, say, in hungary, say in china, say in brazil, you get where i'm going here. are you concerned about our loss of international moral authority? >> ai am, chuck, and it often - before i was nato commander i spent four years, four stars in charge of all military south of the united states. it is called u.s. southern command. i spent a lot of time with the governments and militaries of latin american and caribbean who, let's face it, have a long history of dictatorships and oppression. they've come a long way since the '60s and '70s, but i've spent a lot of time talking to those leaders making sure that they continued on that path. i ne

have yet another senior administrative -- senior official from this administration, jon meacham, john kelly, mattis. they wrote letters which are not flattering to their former boss. how important is this book from john bolton? >> there is little mystery at this point about the true nature of the trump presidency from the inside. the mystery we have to confront is whether enough people on the outside will heed the lessons that are coming from those who have served with the president. and will people make an evidence-based decision in november in the right number of states that this was an experiment that has failed? so i think insofar as bolton is significant in the politics of 2020, it is going to be, can enough people take on board what he's saying and say, you know what, joe biden may be a conventional politician, he may be a figure out of the world that we wanted to shake up when we sent donald trump, but this didn't work. let's put the country in an oxygen tent for a couple of years. see if we can stabilize things again. >> you mention 2020 and the election. the president, of course, h

to demonize -- his attack on mattis got pushback from trump's own former chief of staff general john kellyf his former members have painted a consistent portrait who has been over his head since day one. rex tillerson said this. >> a man pretty undisciplinedun doesn't like to read, doesn't read briefing reports, doesn't like to get into the details of a lot of things. i have to say to him, mr. president, i understand what you want to do. but you can't do it that way. it violates the law. >> crowing about -- because those folks know the president far better than the hardcore supporters have raised. our country is in crisis. when so many respected members of the military warn us about the danger to our democracy, it's an urgent reminder that the phony -- is small compared to the broader responsibility we all have to defend our democratic republican. as mattis said, we can unite without him. drawing on the strengthen hernt in our civil society. this will not be easy as the past few days have shown. we owe it to fellow citizens to past generations at that bled to defend our promise and to our

john kelly, we need to look harder at who we elect.attis, rex tillerson, someone who is undisciplined. we can't help but wonder if this is having an impact and this pile-on, questioning the president's leadership. >> i think what you saw last night and what you see going forward is a president who is playing defense, who is trying to really put out this message that he is a strong leader and he's someone who has the virus under control and someone who has his re-election under control. what we see in the john bolton book -- and it's really a 500-page bombshell of detail after detail. john bolton's thesis is that the president is unfit to be president and that he is someone who tries to curry favor with strong men and authoritarian leaders, and what makes the john bolton book so dammanning is what you laid out. you think of general mattis saying he would ignore commands by president trump because he had a stream of consciousness with a meeting and he was undisciplined and senator bob corker who talked about the fact that the white house

and john kelly, of course, the president's former white house chief of staff.fense secretary, mark's e per, seeming to reverse himself a couple times on whether or not active military should be brought into washington to help quell the protests? he said at a press conference they shouldn't, and then he reversed himself, and he also said he didn't know he was accompanying the president on that walk to st. john's church, and later he said, well, i did know, but i didn't know what we were going to do this. >> again, much of this has to do with the incredible backlash that both defense secretary esper and mark milley, the chairman of the joint chiefs, received from those former four-star generals. the backlash was immediate. but we didn't know until the end of the week some of the dethat tails of how they ended -- details of how they ended up at the white house, how general millie ended up in battle fatigues that night. this was a very heated discussion in the white house about using active troops. that is not illegal in terms of the constitution. that is something

. >> so i think the spectrum that runs from very reticent, jim mattis, john kelly, who were part of thisdministration, to people like me in the center, to people like general john allen and bill mccraven who have been quite critical, that whole spectrum jumped and felt that shock of watching active duty troops clear peaceful protesters. wrong answer. >> admiral stavidis held the same position as dwight eisenhower. very conservative, very republican national security adviser john bolton says he'll go ahead and publish a book even though the white house doesn't want him to. bolton worked alongside the president. so did mattis and general john kelly. all republicans all appointed by trump or other republicans with insider knowledge of the day-to-day operations with inside the trump white house. president trump will meet with law enforcement officers today. that meeting closed to the public so far but we will continue to report on it. you can find me reporting on twitter. i'm @scottmcgrew. >> scott, thank you. >>> trending this morning the prince estate is late artist's the death of freddie

general john kelly has done the same. let's turn to scott mcgrew. sounds like the president has a general problem, scott. >> yeah, general problems, and also an admiral one, as well. good morning to you. chris, you know it's very unusual for retired military officers to speak out against the commander in chief. but that is what is happening here after president trump expressed his wish to have active military troops in american cities. on sunday, general colin powell spoke out and admiral james savius listed all the other generals opposed to the president's behavior. >> he lies all the time. he began lying the day of inauguration when we got into an argument about the size of the crowd that was there. people are writing books about his favorite thing of lying. and i don't think that's in our interest. i didn't vote for himn >> so i think the spectrum that kind of runs from very -- jim kelly, jim mattis, to me like people in the center, admiral bill mccraven, that whole spectrum jumped and felt that shock of watching active duty troops clear peaceful

have john kelly's fears been realized with the coronavirus pandemic? >> i think certainly in part. this is a very emotional conversation between the two of us. and we were -- we had different views on some things, but i think we were both in the government to try and serve the country. and discussing how difficult it was. i think the president already demonstrated his lack of attention to the threat in january and february. people on the nsc staff, from the centers for disease control, national institutes of health, in those early weeks were waving red flags that this could be a real problem. the president didn't want to hear anything about it. he didn't want to hear bad things about china, he didn't want to hear anything that could impede the trade deal or indicate the chinese were covering up flat out lying about what was actually happening with the coronavirus and china and he was worried about the impact on the economy. so it was a see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil approach that cost us a lot of time. and that cost the potential to mitigate some of the effects of the dis

he went after his former chief of staff john kelly, and he certainly went after joe biden. i think there is a sense of real concern in the trump campaign about his standing. now, look, we're still five months off. things can change. but they know right now they are losing, and they are down in the battleground states where they expected to have to contest, places like pennsylvania, wisconsin, florida. the fact that they're even concerned about ohio and iowa, that's trouble because if they have to spend a lot of time there, if they end up losing there, that means the race as a whole is probably already lost. >> jill colvin, i think that most americans of age, the first time people heard of it's an acronym-crazy town, so you'll forgive me, the peoc, the presidential emergency operations center, was on 9/11, when cheney and rice were first taken there and president bush and mrs. bush, even after his arrival back home, were taken there for at least one false alarm. the reporting is solid that the president, his wife, and son were indeed taken there. so he's in that house. the p

john kelly, a retired marine, four-star general, trump's former chief of staff -- okay.y, i'm sorry about that. we'll be going to that in just a moment. i want to take you right now, though, to washington and our own brian todd, who is there at the lincoln memorial where there are live protests going on right now. brian, what are you seeing? >> reporter: well, erin, we had a group of several hundred protesters here just a short time ago. they are now joined by several hundred others, marching from another part of town. i don't know if they're coming from lafayette square near the white house or coming from somewhere else, but this crowd is about to get a lot bigger. the narrative here tonight is, it's been very peaceful and that the confrontational attitude between the protesters and the police has really diminished tonight, to the point where there really hasn't been any confrontation. the police and the national guard have completely drawn back. the curfew here has been canceled, as it has in a couple of other cities, we know. i'll have our photojournalist, eddie gross