jon huntsman didn't go along with everyone else on that. he said what he believed.s is to say that any of these politicians is not wrong or cowardly in some other way. i'm not saying that these guys are paragons on virtue in their entire careers. but in a sea of bad news and really radical, political trending on the right, that sometimes makes you feel like there's no hope for something constructive or civic minded coming from the republican side right now. it is worth noting that there can be mark hatfield moments, even among today's most ambitious republican politicians, even in this environment, sometimes you see a little mark hatfield in an unexpected spot. every once in a while courage sticks out of the soil. for the country's sake, when that happens, we ought to water it and hope it grows. [ male announcer ] before you take it on your road trip... we take it on ours. this summer put your family in an exceptionally engineered mercedes-benz now for an exceptional price during the summer event. but hurry, this offer ends august 31st. there's another way to minimi

alone, jeb bush had very nice thing those say about jon huntsman.ant to play one more piece of sound here. this is jon huntsman talking about electability, and, lois, we'll come back and get your thoughts. >> i think when you find yourself at the extreme end of the republican party, you make yourself unelectable. >> you know, i've been saying on the show the democrats favor this republican because he says stuff like that. is there concern within the republican party if they nominate michele bachmann or rick perry or sarah palin throw her name in there that they're foreclosing an opportunity, a really golden opportunity, to win? >> i think so. i think among the mainstream establishment politicians, i think there's definitely -- and you said it in your opening -- the beltway. there's definitely a concern that the extreme wing of the party cannot -- cannot go up against obama, and that's what huntsman's trying to appeal to. >> brian, i think lois is exactly right, that there is a concern, whether it's voiced publicly or privately, there's some worry wi

, both apparently concerned about the level of organizational disarray that are surrounding jon huntsmanyou been in touch with the huntsman camp about some of these reports? >> i'm in constant touch with all campaigns, as you know. >> i know that. but the huntsman folks are denying the reports of all the disarray, correct? >> well, they are. they are certainly playing it down. the guy who is the source for -- primary source for jonathan martin's piece in politico who gave a bunch of internal e-mails, including e-mails from jon huntsman to politico, they are trying to paint that person as someone who is an outlyel, someone who was forced out of the campaign and is trying to extract retribution. they are trying to say this is not a symptom of a systematic problem. it is true there has been some organizational difficulty, the question is exactly how much and whether they can move on now. they've had a very slow start, the huntsman campaign. lot of people thought they were stalled even before this. it's hard for him because he's a guy who is not that well known in the republican party, let a

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coming in thing i believe in evolution you know what we actually have jon huntsman what he tweeted there and shoot i totally didn't write it down but let's put it on the screen to be clear i believe in evolution and trust scientists on global warming call me crazy and that to me is what really i mean i understand all this playing to your base but it's actually scary to me that he's the crazy one of the guns because he actually believes in evolution and believe scientists on global warming i mean look the world i mean there's been i was so at the debate talked about how being in favor of civil unions obviously he is a voice that is not playing you know to the ultra right wing but it's an important voice i think he says hold it jon huntsman is trying to be the grown up in the room when you'll bachmann screaming that you know rick perry saying these things he is trying to be the grown up republican that they can win the general election the problem is that is not what the base the people that give money and vote want to hear from their candidates they want to hear the most harsh red meat. r

is there a wild ask crazy jon huntsman in there somewhere?you're calling me quixotic again, i take it. i think i'm a person full of life. most importantly, i'm a farther of seven kids, and i think i see the world very realistically through their eyes, and the country that they're about to inherit, being less good, less productive, and less competitive than any other that we've handed down in history. for the first time we're not handing upward in terms of our standards. we're handing downward. it is totally unnatural in this country to be as divided as we are. we're a blue sky, optimistic bunch of people. we like to pull together in times of needs and we're divided today. that hurtsz. that pains a lot of people and we have to figure out how to unite as a nation. >> brown: jon huntsman, thank you very much. all might have conversation with jon huntsman is on our web site as is judy woodruff's interview with texas congressman john paul can we'll talk with other g.o.p. contenders in the coming months. >> suarez: again, the major developments of

former governor jon huntsman. i spoke with him earlier. joining me from san diego, former governor of utah and former u.s. ambassador to china, jon huntsman, thank you for joining us. >> thank you, jake, glad to be here. >> last week, tim pawlenty drop out of the race. this is what he said, quote, what i brought forward what i thought was a rationale -- >> -- established credible strong record of results, based on experience governing a two-term governors of blue state, i think the audience, so to speak, was looking for something different. >> isn't governor pawlenty describing the same problem you're having on the campaign trail right now? >> right now the country is crying out for a sensible middle ground. this is the center right country. i am a center right candidate. right now we've got people on the fringes. president obama is too far to the left. we have people on the republican side too far to the right. we have zero substance. we have no good ideas that are being circulated or talking about that allow the country to get back on it

jon huntsman is at 1%. is it about the fact that he's trying to be a moderate voice?terribly well known, what do you make of it? >> a friend of mine that works for huntsman, the word moderate, they are terrified about it, it's a death knell, and they are trying to stress and you saw it in the comments he made about the one-child policy in china, he's trying to stress, like, his views on, you know, right to life and all of those things. i think what it means is, in the republican primary, the people who are the most bombastic seem to be getting the most attention. even though michele bachmann seems to be slipping a little bit in the polls, she's still getting, you know, the attention as are ron paul, as is rick perry, and m/ had a comment on mitt romney, i'm going to read it. he said, governor romney seems to be vacant from the playing field and maybe that's going to you got to win the primary first before you go to the big dance. i always appreciate the implicit reference. is this a strategy by the romney campaign to not involve themselves? what do you make of it? >>

plus jon huntsman tickles the ivory on the campaign trail in. in that. he did the tickling right after he was asked the question who are you? it's a can't miss clip. coming up later in the show. but first let's get to the news. with the debt deal out of the way now, president obama shifting his focus to getting reelected. in his home down of chicago last night the president celebrated his 50th birthday which is today with an elaborate campaign crowd raiser. the crowd sang happy birthday with the help of jennifer hudson and herbie hancock. spking to the crowd, the president expressed his frustration with the debt ceiling stalemate and vowed a renewed focus on job growth. >> i hope we can avoid another self-inflicted wound like we just saw over the last couple of weeks. we don't have time to play these partisan games. we've got too much work to do. over the next several months, i hope congress is focused on what the american people are focused on. making sure that the economy is growing. making sure that businesses are getting financing. making sure that y

jon huntsman sort of advertises himself there as a center right candidate. this is not a center right party, this is the party that nominated sharon engle, christine o'donnell, joe miller, people like that for the united states senate last year, willingly lost seats because it's so dedicated to purity right now. he's got a shot at the democratic nomination, but i don't think the republican one. >> michael, steve makes a good point here. is huntsman by seeming to be, to my eyes, at least, the most reasonable candidate among the republican nominees, has he disqualified himself by that? >> look, he has no other choice at this point. he's just, you know, one of the problems here is that he set out promising to run a positive campaign and saying you don't have to run other people down when you run for president. i think what he found pretty quickly was that was the only way he could get attention, and now the only way anyone is noticing him is through his negative comments about the other candidates. everyone knew john mccain when he ran for president in 2000, he

i don't think jon huntsman is breaking through.ho could win each of those brackets in the tournament? i think that's the best way to do it. if bachmann can, you know, bump off perry, i mean, that's where south carolina would be really, really important. >> could be a member since 1980. no one has won it without winning south carolina. charlie cook, thank you for hiring me and thank you for coming on today. >> thank you, chris. >>> up next, while the fighting rages in libya, all is quiet on the candidate front. our super tuesday panel is here to break down how the breaking news in libya is playing out on the campaign trail. >>> we're getting out our score card to track who's in, who's out and who is still fence sitting when it comes to higher office. >>> the white house "soup of the day," gazpacho. you're watching "the daily rundown" on msnbc. just one phillips' colon health probiotic cap a day helps defends against occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas and bloating. with three strains of good bacteria to help balance your colon. y

because jon huntsman gets it.ent obama's favorable personal rate beings are much hire than his job performance. people like him. jon huntsman recognizes that and the last part of that ad where he says he's a good man with you but he's failed us, that he another art that resonates. te they like him, but they're beginning on to think he can't lead. if you go after him in a vicious way, that will turn voters off. but jon huntsman will be an awful tough candidate. >> is it going to work in the republican primary? because when they hear he's a good man, he's a nice man -- >> but they're never voting for jon huntsman anyway. >> those moderates, independent minded republicans who tend to wait up the general and leave the general course of the primary to more conservative members of the party. >> and the point he made on rachel maddow is he's going to get into states because he has the financial where with all to stand in there, he'll get into states where there are crossovers, where democrat s an independents can move. >

. >>> and to another republican candidate tonight, former governor jon huntsman at the back of the pack after the iowa straw poll. he boldly took aim at the other candidates. in an interview with abc's jake tapper, jake tapper asked him about the fact that he's only republican candidate supported the deal to raise the debt ceiling and what he said about another candidate's approach. >> you called congresswoman bachmann's position, a quote, crash and burn approach. would you trust a president bachmann to do the right thing with the economy? >> i wouldn't necessarily trust any of my opponents right now who are on a recent debate stage with me when every single one of them would have allowed this country to default. if we had defaulted, jake, this marketplace would be an absolute turmoil. people who are already losing enough as it is on their 401(k)s and retirement plans, it wouldld have been catastrophic. >> so let's bring in jake tapper. hosting "this week" tomorrow morning, and jake, jon huntsman clearly coming out swinging in his interview with you, is this what he needs to do now to m

jon huntsman sort of advertises himself there as a center right candidate.s is not a sent are right party. this is the party that nominated share on angle. christine o'donnell. joe miller. people like that for the united states senate last year. willingly lost winnable elections for the united states senate. because it is so dedicated it purity right now. so i look at huntsman's rhetoric and i say, he's got a shot at the democratic nom nangs but i don't think the republican one. >> a good point here. is huntsman, by seeming to be, by my eyes, at least the reasonable candidate among the republican nominees? has he essentially diskwulfide himself by that? >> well, look, i think that he has no other choice at this point. he's just, you know, i mean, one of the problems here is that he set out promising to run a positive campaign and saying you don't have to run other people down when you run for president. i think what he found quickly was, that was the only way he could get attention. and now the only way anyone is noticing him is through his negative comments

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and i mean jon huntsman is reasonable. he's thoughtful. i mean and i don't know if there is a constituency outside there for him to win. >> i agree with that i sat down this week trying to write a column that jon huntsman would have his moment because the voters were out there waiting for them and i looked at the polling data of the republican electorate, turns out those voters aren't there. maybe 15% of the electorate. so i think it's the wrong year, the wrong time for him. i do think he might as well be more aggressive. on the show with jeffrey, he tiptoed up to staking out different positions. i think he's really got to make it clear. why not. and then if the people look back on this era as an unfortunate era in republican politics in 2016 whatever, they will think okay, that was the guy who was different. >> lehrer: okay, leff it there, good to he sue. >> good to see you, jim. >> brown: finally tonight, a new memorial honoring martin luther king. hurricane irene may have postponed this weekend's dedication ceremony for the new memorial

jon huntsman says i'd happily serve under michele bachmann. that it could happen. you may not be the guy. >> this is a hypothetical conversation and i give you more or less, a hypothetical answer. that's okay. we're going to win and i have no doubt about that. i think we have the background and i think we have the temperament and we're right on the issues and i think we're at the center right of the political scale which is where 24 country is so i don't worry about that. >> if you win the way you may end up getting the nomination is if you said -- you know what? i would take someone like michele bachmann as my running mate because the tea party needs to be recognized for all the work they have done for this party in the last two or three years. >> the tea party has framed the issues. they framed it well. >> shouldn't they be rewarded? >> everybody knows -- i think they're rewarded by people who they elect and put into congress. >> you wouldn't rule out michele bachmann? >> i'm not playing the name game at all. i'll do what's right for my coun

from olay. >>> jon huntsman has had enough. as the republican party continues to be chased to the right by the tea party, one republican presidential candidate has decided to directly confront the extremism in his own party. huntsman's campaign hasn't jumped out of the single digits in the polls, unlike mitt romney and michele bachmann. in spite of or perhaps because of rhetoric like this. >> printing more money to play politics at this particular time in american history is treasonous in my opinion. >> first rule of war is know your enemy, so i went to the inside to learn how they work, because i want to defeat them. >> we need to be free from this country from overregulation and free in this country from overtaxation, from overlitigation. >> the best thing that we can do is shut down and close the federal department of education. >> in texas we teach both creationism and evolution. >> i guarantee you the e.p.a. will have doors locked and the lights turned off. >> i'll work every day to try to make washington, d.c. as inconsequ

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here's jon huntsman's reply, to be clear, i believe in evolution, truces scientists on global warmingll me crazy. it's a big splash, you don't often seen conservative candidates running for office who will willingly embrace science? >> this is a very smart tactic in any kind of race. if you're the person who's behind and you get an opening to go after one of the people who's perceived to be ahead, you go for it. that's what he did. he did it in a way that got some message out there. it wasn't just an attack. i think it's also an appeal obviously to moderates and independents. a couple of the primaries coming up they're open primaries where independents can vote. that's part of the strategy. that's part of romney's strategy. some of the backlash that perry got although i actually tend to think it may have helped him being attacked by the establishment helps him with the far right, at the same time do donors didn't like it. remember that. they saw this as maybe this guy is going to speak too much off the cuff. he's going to be able to be taken seriously. ultimately at the end of the day

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the other one is jon huntsman. [laughter] and obama's advisers are already planning their strategy against romney. >> wow, the obama re-election team sees mitt romney as the likeliest republican candidate, we're told right now. and plans strongly attack him personally as a phony. and here's the keyword, as weird. why that word, weird? >> well, it's pseudo to bring in to the whole mormonism issue. >> stephen: obama is going to use "weird" as code for "mormon." i am really starting to respect that urban rhythmic socialist kenyan secret muslim! [laughter] of course, he is right about romney being weird. look at that hair! dark, perfectly combed with a neat part? nice hair, weirdo! [laughter] plus, strong jaw, piercing gaze, you just know in high school he was the wrd kid who had lots of friends and led the football team to one of those weird state championships! the weirdest thing about him is that crazy religion. mormons believe joseph smith received gold plates from an angel on a hill. when everybody knows moses, go

rick perry says it is a scientific theory that has not been proven to jon holtzma -- jon huntsman told a capper that if republicans position themselves as the anti-size but, it will cost them 2012. >> it is what the national academy of sciences has said about what is causing climate change and man's contribution to it. i think we find ourselves on the wrong side of science and therefore in a losing position. >> do you agree, charles? >> well, global warming is somewhat problematic because a majority of scientists say it is so. i happen to believe that probably is. i am not sure i believe the models that predict what is going to hundred have been brit hume and the pumping co2 into the air does change something, but we do not know what the common aesthetic effects -- call me a static of facts, the cell- killing effects, the capacity earth has. i am perturbed when i hear republicans talk about evolution as a theory, like keynesian economics. that and a denial of the science is infinitely more troubling. >> mark? >> gov. perry takes it to a different level. instead of simply questioning sc

can jonathan -- can jon huntsman debt traction or is perry getting smarter playing to the voters he needs primary? >> depends. huntsman and perry have the reverse situation. huntsman is eminently reasonable, eminently rational, and is probably going to be the thing that prevents him from being the nominee of the republican party. he could win in a general election, because you can stand him next to president obama and they could have a spirited, knock down drag out civil debate as issues facing the country, and the country actually would be bet are off for it and be well served by it. rick perry on the other hand is saying a whole lot of things that's making conservative hearts beat faster, but i think probably scaring the middle, the middle of the country, the moderates and independents, who really want someone to run against president obama, to at least have a real rational conversation about the issues facing the country. yop think the electorate will have a whole lot of patience with a republican nominee in the general election who's going spend a lot of time questioning the president

let me ask you about this comment made by former utah governor jon huntsman yesterday. he tweeted quote, to be clear i believe in evolution and trust scientists on global warming. call me crazy. that's a sar kisic comment. is he is odd man out in your party now? >> i don't know m i'm not doing a poll of all the candidates. this is what's going to happen. we have a rigorous debate. we've got as you've pointed out, we've got a lot of different folks many the field. i happen to believe, chris, that having a lot of candidates in the field, having a big primary is good for our party. it gets a lot of people out there. it gets a lot of earned media, a lot of tv time. a lot of print media. all the horsepower i think is on our side of the aisle right now. >> aren't you worried in a world where we have to compete with science and science and technology we're competing in a world of science and technology. the country might be led by somebody who doesn't believe in evolution, climate change, who doesn't believe in the scientific community of his own country. wouldn't that be scar

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i'm here in san diego today having just interviewed jon huntsman. i asked both of those gentlemen about their view on gay marriage and had they made public statements on television shows about dabbling in satanic witchcraft or saying that masturbation is a sin and should be avoided, i think i would have asked them if they'd written this all in a new book and covered it again, i would have asked them the same questions. i mean, just to remind everybody, she was on this show to promote a new book, an autobiography in which she talks about all the issues i raised. i don't see how you can possibly promote a book and then simply refuse to answer questions about the content of the book, and more than that, accuse a host, who has the audacity to ask you, of being creepy, sexist and harassing you. what do you think, james? >> i -- i think that's probably -- i think it's probably true, that if you're going out to promote a book you should be willing to talk about the book. and i, you know, you know, i join the members of this panel that you have accepted in