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joyce vance is always here, thanks, i don't know how you do it. prosecution, i can barely write up a grocery list, joyce, but thank you for doing the things that none of us can actually do. let's dig into this a little bit, if we can, walk us through the case in which you and your colleagues have put together. how do you do it? >> well, first i should say it's almost as easy as riding a shopping list, when your federal prosecutor. we do this for every single case that we indict. and what across memo does is it compiles the admissible evidence that prosecutors believe they have. it takes a look at the law and legal charges that will be brought. and also any potential defenses that a defendant might have. and evaluates whether the government can reasonably believe that it would obtain a conviction and sustained it on appeal, if they decide to perceive it with the case. it's a formalistic view that they engage in. this one obviously is a little bit more weighty. this is a bit of a cross memo on steroids. it's extensively footnoted, and an exhaustive

joyce vance is back as well.agine the committee members and staff have been chomping at the bit to see these returns. that said they have only six weeks, obviously, that's when the republicans take over. what can they get done? >> they will have the opportunity to excavate the tax returns in great detail in only six weeks, given how complicated they probably are, but i think we can preview what they will see because my colleagues a couple years ago actually managed to get a lot of these tax returns themselves and "the new york times" published and the tax returns show how little donald trump has paid in taxes. even in the first years of the presidency, paid $750 in the first year and second year of his presidency and any number of years leading up to that he paid as little as $0 in federal income taxes. that's one thing we'll continue to, you know, captivate i think the committee and other americans about how the tax system works. in some cases it may be a result of abuse of process and some cases the way the sys

>> so, look, i agree with joyce. one of the big insurances is timing but on the other side of the coin, these aren't rocket science investigations, and i don't think it's going to take a lot to catch up. but on the other hand, i think that one of the bigger concerns is while i praise the attorney general for trying to be transparent and completely above board, i don't think this appointment really adds value when you look at the regulations under which he appointed the special counsel. which means that at the end of the day, the person who ultimately has say over whether or not an indictment is issued or how the investigation concludes, is the very person who appointed the special counsel, which is attorney general garland. so, look, if you're looking back in time, you know, look, the independent counsel law extinguished, and that gave people too much leeway, and the special counsel rules maybe narrowed it too much. when you look back into the bush administration, you saw the acting attorney general at the time sitti

joining us now is paul butler a lob are faster -- and back with us is joyce vance.of the show. good evening both of you. joyce vance, our member you telling me at the beginning of this thing that seditious conspiracy is a complicated and difficult, difficult thing to prove and get a conviction on. hence, you thought that they must have lots of good evidence and have a good case because it is not the kind of thing that you want to bring in and not succeed. and >> yes, that is exactly right there is an example in michigan during the obama era where the doj car charged seditious conspiracy was not able to get a conviction. that example even fresh on everyone's mind as they consider whether or not to indict this case. when you think about whether -- with the statues seditious conspiracy is meant for, it is as you say ali, it comes out of the civil war. it is literally meant for people who become traitors to their country. that is how it was used in this case, and that is what makes this pair of convictions on seditious conspiracy charge so very important. it is the inve

i think joyce is right.g they do issued by the end of the year was broader. when we say january 6th, it wasn't the insurrection on january six alone that i worry about. i worry about all the other parts of his attempt to overturn the election and to undo democracy. pressure on the vice president, the elector scheme, the pressure on state legislatures. i think there's a lot more to it than what we have talked about. we shouldn't be focused only on the insurrection and violence of january 6th. i think there's the department of justice continue for the two years. it doesn't need a special prosecutor. something that's being talked about. that is a waste of time and money and will accomplish nothing. no special prosecutor is going to be any more viewed as independent in the department of justice. it does a disservice to the department of justice. in my mind, it is and should always be something that focuses on the law and the facts and can act independent of any political pressure. it should continue to do the in

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. >>> let me bring in joyce nance, former u.s.m the university of alabama school of law. i'm looking at the charges. to ryan's point, kelly meggs and i think jessica watkins, this jury found them guilty -- no, kelly meggs, one, two, three, four, five charges for which meggs was found guilty, stewart rhodes -- a huge pileup of guilty convictions for doj today from this jury. >> this is an enormous win for the government. there are some plight verdicts. as a prosecutor, nicolle, you hate seeing a jury go out for a holiday while they're in the middle of deliberations. that always slows things down. maybe that impacted the verdict here, maybe it didn't. this was a very solid result for the government. the last time seditious conspiracy was charged the case resulted in the judge dismissing the indictment because it's such a difficult, such an unusual sort of charge to bring. it involves an agreement, and that's the essence of a conspiracy indictment. it's an incoate crime. that means they didn't get it across the finish line. because c

also with us, joyce vance, former u.s. attorney, professor at the university of alabama school of law, and co-host of the sisters in law podcast. they are both msnbc legal analyst. and we are lucky that they are. andrew weissmann, that final note by the public defender, a just and equitable outcome. what i was hearing and i hope it is what we are hearing, and what we will continue to hear, is a responsible public defender, who is staying within his, so far, limited knowledge of the case. everything he said is completely accurate. e he's not protesting his cliens innocence, not throwing around lies like donald trump, about, this was someone trying to break out of the house. and a just and equitable outcome could eventually involve a guilty plea, could involve, ultimately, and agreement here, between defense and prosecution on this case. it is so striking, to compare what he had to say today, beginning with that decency, about his expression of sympathy for paul pelosi, to what we heard from donald trump, who is out there ac

attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. now a law professor at the university of alabama. and pulitzer prize-winning journalist. associate editor at the washington post. lucky yes, his anchor of the sunday show right here on msnbc. i have not seen you in ages. i would love for you to go first tonight. here we go, republicans have the slim majority in the house. democrats controlling the senate. what is this going to mean the biden agenda have got a lot done so far. but now we are dealing with a new dick. >> entirely, it's good to see you steph. it's going to be a very different next two years and we've seen for the first years of the biden ministration. president issued a statement tonight saying he wants to work with republicans to get things done for the american people. says that that is what the results said to the american people. this white house is under no illusions. that a whole lot is going to get done. they know what is coming, they are anticipating the house oversight committee. fighting to investigate hunter bi

attorney joyce vance, who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor.s now a law professor at the university of alabama. yamiche, biden's message tonight, our country must have an overwhelming unified voice against violence. there cannot be violence against democrats or republicans. why this speech, why tonight? >> in talking to white house officials and people close to president biden, my understanding is that he really wanted to have a closing message to the american people. politics, aside our democracy cannot be put at risk by election deniers and lies. you heard the president begin this speech in a very poignant way, talking about paul pelosi and the attack on him, an 82 -year-old with his head bashed in with a hammer by somebody, who police say and reports show was someone who wanted to hurt nancy pelosi and was asking where is nancy. this is really president biden saying this should be a step too far. this political violence needs to stop. and we heard him say that a number of times. i also think the president wanted to really hammer home the ide

and, joyce, if the former president ever speaks with the committee, how detrimental would that be to? >> well, it's an interesting situation, right. you have these different versions of reality. i think ultimately it's not the committee that will end up resolving these different versions of the facts. it will be the justice department. and it will fend on whether doj believes that there's sufficient evidence that they need to forge ahead and interview these two very central players, the former vice president and the former vice president. it would be unprecedented. it's the thing you want to be careful about doing if you're doj. you don't want to set a precedent that makes you look political. but if the evidence suggests there is reason to prosecute, you've got to get the version of events from each of those principals if they will testify, keeping in mind doj off does not try to subpoena targets of an investigation to a grand jury. but mike pence's views are important. because in addition to his reaction to the tweet, he had a series of conversations with the former president. and i

attorney joyce vance, who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. she's now a law professor at the university of ana bahama and -- associate editor at the washington post, unluckiest, he's anchor of the sunday show, right here on msnbc. eli, i've not seen you in ages, so i would love for you to go for us tonight. here we go. republicans have the slim majority in the house. democrats are controlling the senate. what is this gonna mean for the biden agenda? we've gotten a lot done so far, but now we're dealing with the new track. >> entirely. it's good to see you, steph. it's gonna be a very different two years from what we've seen. the president issued a statement tonight saying he wants to work with republicans to get things done for the american people. he says that's what the results from the election last weeks and that the american people wanted. this white house is under no illusions that a whole lot is gonna get done. they know what's happening, they're anticipating a whole lot of heat from the house oversight committee that plans to investiga

a novel by james joyce has a reputation for being a challenging read.tion of poetry and prose, to celebrate ulysses" being released, there is a company producing a stage play. to find out how it translates to the stage, the bbc sat down with the producer. >> i wanted to make something new kid i wanted to look at what it meant, you know, today, so definitely not to make an adaptation of "ulysses". i am a choreographer working in dublin, ireland. we have been commissioned to create a new work that marks the 100-year anniversary of james joyce's "ulysses." if i said to, you know, colleagues or friends that i am a little bit worried, you know, because i was just firing through ideas, and anything i didn't like, somebody told me of the book, if you don't like something or if you get lost, just skip ahead. so i said i would do that when making the place -- the piece. i would skip ahead. it was almost like if anything was going to stay in the piece, it had to fight to be there. i'm always quite amazed by the energy in "ulysses" and how it feels very modern. ye

so republicans were voting for joyce. it shows that there is a part of the republican party is out there that is more malleable to these middle issues. kristen: that's a great point. i wonder if that is something that played out on a national level as well. what you think, paul? >> there were five states where there were abortion measures on the ballot. three affirming voting rights and two restricting abortion rights. in those cases, the pro-choice -- most of those cases, the pro-choice side won. there will be analysis on how effective having these ballot measures were in two important ways, one is how much was a candidate like a gubernatorial or legislative candidate able to use this as a method of kind of positioning themselves and rallying volunteers and getting their campaign going, and secondly, when you have something on the ballot, what happens? every news outlet, every report on the election has to talk about that issue. so when nate silver was reviewing the national landscape the last hours of election reporting

we were watching that interview with congressman joyce with some interest.ug, i have to say it gave me some flashbacks. you worked for eric cantor who of course was one of the first kind of signs that this is the way his loss, which obviously took so much of us -- >> thanks for the reminder. >> i'm sorry. i apologize. but it really was in some ways the canary in the coalmine for kind of the situation we now find ourselves in. so i'm just kind of curious what did you make of what he had to say and what's next for mccarthy? >> well, i think he highlighted where republicans want to go or at least the big large majority of republicans want to go, but you can't get there if you can't get to 218. and that's always been the challenge. you and margaret both would chase eric captor and john boehner and other members down the corridors in congress when we couldn't get to 218. you would ask us are you going to be able to get to 218 and we'd be very confident we would and then privately we don't know. this is the job that kevin has now. and he's dressing for the role by

that was joyce. she was the type of girl, yeah. i get emotional at poppy time.so you could do be what you are today. and me. i'm lucky. because i got 70—odd years of freedom. i've enjoyed my freedom. i hope they remember all the lads my age at the time who are laying in these cemeteries all over the bloody world. i sit back now and thank god for our crew, yeah. couldn't go to war again, i don't think. chuckles. i'd know all of the dodgers! chuckles. the anonymous street artist, banksy, has confirmed that he's been at work in parts of ukraine that have been ravaged by the war. he's posted images on his instagram account of a mural on a building damaged by shelling in the town of borodyanka, west of kyiv. it features a gymnast doing a handstand. various murals in banksy�*s signature spray—painted style have been spotted around the capital in recent days. now on bbc news the weather with susan powell. hello. it is unusually warm across the united kingdom at the moment. yesterday was the warmest armistice day on record and in fact tomorrow for remembrance sunday, we

that was joyce. she was the type of girl, yeah. i get emotional at poppy time.hat you are today. and me. i'm lucky. because i got 70—odd years of freedom. i've enjoyed my freedom. i hope they remember all the lads my age at the time who are laying in these cemeteries all over the bloody world. i sit back now and thank god for our crew, yeah. couldn't go to war again, i don't think. chuckles. i'd know all of the dodgers! chuckles. time for a look at the weather with susan powell. hello. it is unusually warm across the united kingdom at the moment. yesterday was the warmest armistice day on record and for tomorrow for remembrance sunday, we may see very similar temperatures yet again. 0vernight, with the southerly when is continuing, our temperatures will hold up. we may well see some cloud returning across eastern england and mist and fog drifting in from the north sea down some of our eastern coast. 0ur overnight temperatures they will look rather more like the figures we would expect by day at this point in november. for remembrance sunday, a lot of fine and dr

for marcia and joyce said, bob is economy isn't turning around fast enough. the groceries they bought have to lost them at least a month. and they not sure they, well, just like they are not sure about the countries economic future. harder matessa al jazeera holiday for you on peacekeeping mission and solve press has been criticized by both sides of the decades. long conflicts. un peacekeepers were deployed to the island in 1964 during vaughn as between talking and greek cypriots in 1974. the convict worsened with turkish forces. moving in today that the un ceasefire line and a 180 kilometer buffer zone across the on and separates the greek speaking cypress in the south from the turkish speaking self declared republic of northern cypress, under semen spent a day in nicosia with you and forces on patrol in the buffer zone, ah, an island cut in to look to the north and you can see the turkish cypriots side of a frozen conflict from 48 years ago. a self declared state only recognized by the turkish government in ankara. it's leaders say they want more influence

. >> joining us now, joyce vance and jeff masson. thank you both for being here.ce, can i ask you about this breaking news that we saw, that there was a note on the phone of the alleged shooter in walmart, and you heard cal describe various things that it had to say? we know it confirms some of the things or would seem to confirm some of the things that we have heard from folks there, that he seemed to be targeting specific people. how might that be used to maybe try to answer, first of all, the question that so many families have, which is, why? or can it at all? how would a note like that be used in this investigation? >> the tragedy in these cases is that very often there is no closure for families. when you have a note like this, sometimes you can assess, did the shooter suffer from mental illness? was it a crime that was motivated by hate? was he targeting certain types of people? was it workplace interactions? we know now that the shooter was a former employee and could that somehow enter into this calculus? for the families, it's a long and difficult road a

joining me now is joyce vance, msnbc legal analyst and former alabama u.s. attorney. secretive foreperson some due to handle outstanding issues regarding january six. congressman jamie raskin who's leading the subcommittee said that they are quote looking at criminal and civil referrals for people who have broken the law and who may have escaped scrutiny. what does this mean? why is it important? >> congress has done a great job through the subcommittee what highlighting some of the most important issues surrounding january 6th. and putting them out front and center in the public's mindset. in a way, i think we didn't fully expect they'd be able to do. so while these referrals particularly the criminal ones may not carry a lot of weight at doj which is notoriously independent and its decision-making process. i think this may well help focus americans on the conclusions that the committee reached. and perhaps more important the sheer volume of the body of support of those conclusions. >> the committee also needs to decide what the next steps are now that donald trump h

joyce, as a law professor, tell us about the constitutional points here. he says congress has no right to his testimony. there is precedent of presidents and vice presidents testifying. i think of ford on the pardon, for instance. bill clinton testifying, of course, under subpoena. the nixon tapes. is he saying there's no legal requirement that he do so? >> i think what he is saying is what carol was talking about, that from a practical point of view, the committee is out of time to force him to testify. this notion that he is not obligated or that he doesn't have a duty to testify is really something that makes no sense given his constitutional role in government. you know, even if that wasn't the case, even if it wasn't something the in the can force, it's something that pence could offer the american people. when you think about it as a prosecutor in a very common sense way, you can understand how essential his testimony is. if you have got a group that's planning a bank robbery and before they do it one of the guys talks to a friend and says, we would

joyce of pennsylvania, i inform the house that mr. joyce will vote yea on h.r. 5441. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from new jersey seek recognition? mr. pallone: mr. speaker, as the member designated by mrs. ann kirkpatrick, mr. donald payne, ms. mice sherrill, mr. albio sires, mr. peter defazio, i inform the house that these members will vote yes on h.r. 5441. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from california seek recognition? >> mr. speaker, as the member designated by mr. tom rice of south carolina, pursuant to house resolution 8, i inform the house that mr. rice will vote yes on h.r. 5441. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from colorado seek recognition? mr. neguse: mr. speaker, as the member designated by m mr. keating, mr. krishnamoorthi and ms. porter, i inform the house that these memthree membe will vote yea on h.r. 5441. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from colorado seek recognition? mr. perlmutter: thanks, mr. speaker. as the member designated b

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joining me now, maura barrett, clint watts and joyce vance. those powerful comments from him and the details from local officials, they are filling in the blanks. what more can you tell us? >> reporter: you can see the memorial behind me growing. tributes pouring in for the victims and those injured in the shooting over the weekend. you named the victims we learned yesterday from local officials. they shared photos shared by families that want to remember the legacies of their loved ones they lost. daniel aston was a 28-year-old trans man who was a bartender and entertainer here at club q. he felt most liberated. derrick rump was sassy and honest in the best way, his friends say. that's why they loved him. kelly loving is a 40-year-old trans woman. she was a caring person. ashley paugh is a mother and wife. capping off a day trip with her friend. she had gone to the club with her friend to see a comedy show. she leaves behind a devastated 11-year-old daughter. raymond green is a 22-year-old with his girlfriend and family to celebrate a birthda

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host: here is joyce in portland, independent line. caller: hello. host: you were on the air. that sure on the air. -- are on the air. caller: i agree with the first caller, you have the right to live your life as you see fit. but the republican party, they decided they wanted to change the course. they did. they waited 40 to 60 years to put the court as the conservative court, the overturned roe v. wade, they plan on overturning a lot of things. they've gutted the voting rights act, they did not want that. i agree with what she is saying, i agree with what he is trying to say. but that is not going to stop. they are not going to stop until they take every right away. host: peter coleman, do you agree? the justice system, the changes we have made over the years, has been a driver of this polarization? guest: yeah. again, that has become a politicized issue, unfortunately. who was on the supreme court, is it waited left or right? it has always been an issue and a concern. a focus, a political focus for a long time in mobilizing voters, mobilizing partisans in service of packing

joyce, what do you think of that?would agree with my former colleague john michigan just about everything, but on this case i disagree. we have one president who is the elected official for the entire country. at some point we have to be willing to come back together and say that we invest our officials with the authorities to fulfill their legal obligations and enforce the laws and that we trust them to do that without reference to political party. there are some people in the former presidents among his supporters who will never believe that any prosecution or investigation into him will be objective. we don't need to stamp the rules in this country on their head to suit donald trump. instead, we should restore the rule of law this country into them like anyone else. >> final word, barb? >> yeah. it really feeds into this notion that there are obama judges and trump judges and that there are trump u.s. attorney and biden u.s. attorneys. in fact, we want to depoliticizing all of that. it is not bipartisanship, it's n

do you think they're likely, joyce? >> it's a tough call.enator whitehouse says is absolute common sense. if you're a member of the supreme court, if you've risen to that high office, wouldn't you want the public to hold that court in high confidence? wouldn't you want to have the public's confidence in your integrity? by refusing to have an ethical code, a code that every other judge in the country lives with, the justices hold themselves out for the situation they find themselves in, where public respect has plummeted. here's the problem, there's not really a stick in that area because the separation of powers would make it very difficult for congress to come in and write an ethics code that they would force on to the court. unless the justices themselves agree to adopt an ethics code, there's not anyone who can force them to do it. it's tough to believe the chief justice has not broached these conversations with his colleagues. it must be that there are one or more justices unwilling to adopt a code. it would be difficult for a court to h

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joyce vance it's always a great pleasure.ith the midterms looming, democrats bring in the closer. can president obama give his party a boost until election day? pretty good. that's next. heroin overdoses are surging, and meth overdoses in nevada, nevada. and you know what i said? you know what i said? i said, when i came out here, i said, nobody says it the other way. it has to be nevada. right? and if you don't say it correctly, and it didn't happen to, me but it happened to a friend of mine. he was killed. >> okay, he got exactly backwards there and i know because i'm a broadcaster natives to that i know -- why it's in his head. republicans would sooner change their beloved pronunciation of nevada before they would contradict the one and only donald trump. and while he eventually lost the state of nevada in 2016 and 2020, it remains one of the quintessential states in every election, which is why former president barack obama was there this week. part of his tour around the country, strobing for democrats in very close race

host: here is joyce in portland, independent line. caller: hello. host: you were on the air. that sure on the air. -- are on the air. caller: i agree with the first caller, you have the right to live your life as you see fit. but the republican party, they decided they wanted to change the course. they did. they waited 40 to 60 years to put the court as the conservative court, the overturned roe v. wade, they plan on overturning a lot of things. they've gutted the voting rights act, they did not want that. i agree with what she is saying, i agree with what he is trying to say. but that is not going to stop. they are not going to stop until they take every right away. host: peter coleman, do you agree? the justice system, the changes we have made over the years, has been a driver of this polarization? guest: yeah. again, that has become a politicized issue, unfortunately. who was on the supreme court, is it waited left or right? it has always been an issue and a concern. a focus, a political focus for a long time in mobilizing voters, mobilizing partisans in service of packing

joyce chang, chair of global research at j.p. morgan chase.e in international markets are you seeing opportunity? i am seeing in your notes you think the dollar will continue to gain ground. >> i still think with the dollar we want to stay defensive. we are doing that more through options than through cash. looking at international equities, we have seen a d rating so big, it is really a wide discount to historical averages. 10 to 11 times forward pe's offering a significant cushion versus bond yields. i think the euro zone and the u.k. have cheapened. take a look at the u.k., and i know it is contrarian, you are at a record discount. very high dividend yield. recently -- is going to come from weaker sterling. international equities could have a moment, even in china we are looking at growth for the next couple of quarters at 5%. given the contraction that was underway and hitting rock bottom on china, there are more international opportunities that stand out right now from a pure pricing point of view. in the u.s., the fed is still the key ca

joining me now, former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst joyce vance. so what do you make here of pence's apparent willingness to cooperate with the doj's investigation but not with the house's january 6th committee? >> well, you'll forgive me for being a little amused when i saw the formulation of pence's thoughts in the reporting. the fact that he'll consider it is interesting given that a federal subpoena, if one is issued for him, has the force of law and can be enforced. and people who don't comply with federal grand jury subpoenas typically are brought in front of grand juries by u.s. marshals. they can be held in contempt. so it's not like pence has a whole lot of choice here. technically, he shouldn't have a choice when it comes to congress' efforts to subpoena him either. the problem is that the because they are running out of time to enforce the january 6th committee's subpoenas and to take testimony and issue their report, i suspect pence felt pretty safe flouting that one. doj is an entirely different story. >> in terms of what we could lear

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. >> joyce, i know you are familiar with the new special counsel, jack smith. i want to read -- i have some of the scope of the special counsel appointment from the actual order. it says the special counsel is authorized to conduct the ongoing investigation into whether any person or entity violated the law in connection with efforts to interfere with the lawful transfer of power following the 2020 presidential election or the certification of the electoral college vote held on or about january 6th 2021, as well as any matters that arose or might arise directly from this investigation. this authorization does not apply to prosecution of vigilance that they committed while physically present on the capitol grounds on january 6th, 2021. that's some of the actual order, but tell us what you know about mr. smith. >> well, he brings a very interesting background to this position that helps us understand why merrick garland chose him. i think mary does a great job of explaining it, and i completely agree with her about the importance of taking this decision out of th

the dark web and luke broadwater, a "new york times" congressional reporter covering the attack and joyce vance u.s. attorney professor at university of alabama law school and msnbc legal analyst. reading this, frankly, ken, is chilling. what are we expecting to happen today? >> reporter: this is an arraignment, chris, on the state charges. so the first thing we'll learn is whether this defendant is actually going to show up depending on his physical or mental health. if he does the judge will read the charges against him and give him an opportunity to have a lawyer appointed for him, assuming he can't afford one. he's living in a garage, after all. and we may learn a little bit more about the, how the state plans to handle this prosecution and juxtaposing and juggling it with the federal prosecution, totally separate, and he hasn't had a first appearance on the federal charges yet. as i talk to justice department officials why they decided to bring that federal case, even though, you mentioned, facing life in prison on the state charges, they emphasize they see this as an important case,