governor john kasich earns almost $150,000 a year.t's $10,000 more than what ted strickland was earning when he was governor. kasich is still eligible for an automatic 3% annual raises which senate bill 5 eliminated for public union workers. republicans in ohio are no different than any of the other republicans across this country. they think shared sacrifice means sacrificing middle class americans, need to do more than the top 1% or 2%. joining me now is sue taylor, she is the president of the ohio federation of teachers. jack real is the president of the columbus firefighters union local 67. jim gilbert, president of the fraternal order of police, capital city, lodge number 9. sean grayson, the general counsel for afscme number 8. sue, to you think the republican legislators earn their pay as opposed to you folks? >> i don't know one teacher or one children's service worker who went into our job to get rich. and if merit pay and pay for performance is based on whether i believe i'm doing my job like it is for governor kasich, then

this isn't just about kasich, this isn't about ohio. this is about whether typical people can change this economy for the better so that we can all make a decent living. that's what this is all about. and that bill 5 was to try to stop that, prevent us from having power, break our back so they could have the playing field all to themselves. they got a surprise. >> is it the most egregious thing about this, it ends arbitration? >> i think there are several things. it ends collective bargaining. without collective bargaining, you don't have a ladder into the middle class. yes, it doesn't culminate at arbitration. once you take bargaining away and give a guy like kasich absolute right to control firefighters, to control nurses, to control police officers, you end up with a system that doesn't work. middle class america gets hurt and gets hurt badly. this bill will hurt public safety, it will hurt public education and it will hurt the middle class. >> talking about safety. what are the safety concerns here connected in this bill? >> first o

john kasich made his intentions clear. he said we need to break the back of organized labor in the schools. he also made clear what he thinks of public safety workers like police officers. >> have you ever been stopped by a policeman who was an idiot? i have this idiot pull me over on 315, goes back to the car, comes back and gives me a ticket and says you must report to court. if you don't we're putting a warrant out for your arrest. he's an idiot. >> kasich came pained on economic development, but when he took office early this year, ohio republicans basically staged an attack on organized labor. senate bill 5 was signed into law by governor kasich on march 31st. it limits collective bargaining for public employees in the state of ohio. kasiched it was needed to fill an $8 billion budget gap, but the savings weren't specified. he didn't skip any opportunities to brag about what he did. >> froeprobably nobody in this thought it could be done. you heard it before, campaign rhetoric. baloney. the members of the legislature

kasich. right here.ou know, i mean, governor kasich, i understand, i understand it's easy for you to stand up in front of the microphone and give a conciliatory speech because you've had a lot of training over on fox news. i understand how you sit down with sean hannity and talk it over about how you've got this grand plan how you're going to do the budget. you have to come talk to other americans. and i know you want to be president of the united states. i know what this is all about. this was all about you going after the unions, this was all about you being the hero. this is all about you going back to washington, not as a congressional member anymore, but as somebody who is going to do the job from the oval office. you're not going to do it if you're going to go with this kind of a power grab. people do matter. the rest of the republican governors out there who think that you can't go a bridge too far, i hope you learned a lesson here tonight, that these 99%ers who are in the street, they have a mess

john kasich personally at every turn.oing to be voted on in ohio tomorrow. kasich and the republicans and out of state conservative groups dumping money into ohio right now to help kasich, they want ohioans to vote tomorrow to keep the law stripping union rights. they want people to vote yes on issue 2 to keep the law. their campaign is not working. mr. unpopular's signature policy turns out is very unpopular. this is the polling on the repeal effort over time for john kasich's union stripping bill. this is how public policy polling, as you can see there, as polled on it over time. this is between 50% and 60% there. people who want to repeal john kasich's union stripping law. here's how it looks in the quinnipiac polling. again, the repeal kasich's anti-union rights law side appears to be doing well and doing better over time. heading into tomorrow's voting. so now at the end, alongside the tide of outside money from every conservative group you've ever heard from and some you haven't, the conservative groups are switchin

what's kasich's next move?er here and sit down and talk to the lovable me, big eddie, and talk about the future of ohio. can we get that done? we've got this chair right here for you, john. but we're waiting for the governor. i'm not holding my breath. let's bring in state senator nina turner and brian hester. great to have both of you with us. senator, i mean, if these numbers hold up tonight, and if it is a resounding defeat, is it not somewhat of a mandate to the governor, don't ever overreach again? what do you think? >> absolutely it's a mandate. he should respect the wishes of the people and the people of ohio are speaking loudly tonight saying they are standing up to public sector workers. our sheroes and heroes who bring it every single day on our behalves. >> will he politically change in your opinion if it's a big number tonight? >> i'm not sure, ed. it's up to the people and everybody here tonight, everybody that's voted to make him keep the commitment and uphold what the voters are voting on tonight

john kasich has been the best community organizer in the state for democrats.emocrats who have decided they're voting no. we've seen so many republicans come out against this, we stee independent voters. in my own neighbors yards with mccain signs in 2008 have vote no on issue 2 signs. everybody knows a schoolteacher or a police officer or firefighter or a nurse, for me this is personal. my sister toni is a public schoolteacher and my sister leslie is a nurse. the man who came earlier this week last week to our home to install our new microwave had a son who is a firefighter. he said he's never seen his son participate in a grassroots effort like he has with this one. he's going door to door. this is what kasich and the republicans did not anticipate, is when you go after public workers, you're going after family members of tens of thousands of ohioans. >> why do you think they made it such a priority? last year we saw republicans take over in ohio and wisconsin and michigan and other places, too, but we watch these new republican governors and legislatures mak

that is directly about governor kasich.h this certainly reflects on the state's feelings about him. why do you think the governor and state republicans in the legislature where you serve made going after union rights such a top priority? i mean, they could read the polls, themselves. they knew this would be dramatically unpopular among ohio voters. >> it's a power grab, rachel, in ohio. and around the country. the fact is that the republicans are doing everything they can to consolidate the power that they currently have. so they're changing the election laws, you've talked about it on your show, with photo i.d.s and getting rid of early voting. they're attacking labor, because labor is a powerful counterforce to the big corporate interests. >> mr. minority leader -- >> they're doing everything they can to tilt the player field. >> i never like to interrupt people on the show for any reason. i have news you'd like to hear. the "associated press" has just called issue 2 in ohio, issue 2 has been defeated. >> very good. >> wo

governor case kasich's ratings continue to drop.ident obama. a new mailer says, this november, stop their momentum before it begins. this is why we're going to ohio. it's the country. it's collective bargaining. it's the middle class. all focus, all eyes on hohio. we'll be there on monday and tuesday. joining me, chairman of the ohio democratic pa iic party and joh nichols of "the nation" magazine. chris, how do you fight back when early voting gets shut down like this? what's the recourse? >> you work harder than your opponent. we realize this election is not about whether or not the secretary of state is going to close the polls on saturday or sunday but whether or not we're going to work harder than they are. in this case, the polls are speaking loudd dly but on tuesd the people will speak loudly. this has never been about republican versus democrat but those of us who care deeply about the middle class and the fundamental right for firefighters, police officers, teachers and custodians to speak about open transparent meetings. o

"cleveland rally assails kasich in senate bill 5. "i like that one.rnor kasich is trying to cut too much from local government too quickly." that's a dandy. "poll shows that ohioans see senate bill 5 as egregious overreach." that's my favorite. if kasich glanced at some of the articles, maybe he realized how completely out of touch he was. the one paper i wish he would have picked up is this one from the morning after senate bill 5 was defeated by over 20 points. unions get revenge. does it get better than that? if kasich wants to avoid more headlines like that, he should learn a liessen from the sarah palin school of journalism. >> what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read? >> i've read most of them, again, with a great appreciation for the press, for the media. >> what ones specifically? i'm curious. >> all of them. any of them that have been in front of me over all these years. >> oh, yeah. sarah reads all of the newspapers. we can tell by her interviews. maybe john kasich can actually learn from something from the half term former gover

but i do wonder about kasich, whether he can come back in that critical state of ohio.ernor being unpopular a year out can bring down his party when the presidential race occurs next november? >> well, that might not be -- there may not be the exact connection between the governor and the presidential race here, but i think these governors are symbolic of a republican party that has overreached that has overreached drastically since 2010. and what they've done in overreaching is tipped their hand. people who voted for scott walker for governor in wisconsin weren't voting for an end to collective bargaining rights. they got that, though, with scott walker. and think about the fact that walker and kasich, they've been in office for only ten months. it's one thing to have buyer's remorse after three years thinking, the guy isn't doing what i thought he was going to do, but ten months in, to want a recall. and the wisconsin recall looks like it might really happen, they've really got a chance there. there must be some awfully unhappy people in wisconsin thinking, this isn't

most closely watched race in the nation, not even two hours after the polls closed, voters ve rej kasich's union busting laws, 61% of ohio voters voted to reject that law. 39% of ohio voters voted to keep that law. much more on that in just a moment. on issue three in ohio, a largely symbolic vote against national health reform president obama signed into law last year, so far with 89% of precincts reporting, 64% of ohio voters have voted yes to amend the state constitution against health reform and 36% ohio voters voted no. in maine, where polls closed earlier this evening, voters have decided to reinstate a four decades old state law that allows you to register to vote on election day. republicans changed that law this year and got rid of it after 38 years in maine. with 79% of precincts reporting, 61% have voted yes on issue one to restore same day voter registration and 39% voted no. and in mississippi, they decided a fertilized egg is not a full blown person. initiative 26 would have banned abortions no exceptions and the most popular forms of birth control, hormonal and types of fert

kasich, you see, i don't blame the guy. i mean, he's trying to come across as a joe lunchpail, joy lunch bucket kind of guy. but the former lehman brothers manager and fox news host is about as blue collar as the queen of england. even kasich's spokesman acknowledges the governor's, well, not a very good -- blown play here. "every once in a while you hook one wide left." he should have put on there, no pun intended with left. but issue 2 supporters are still fighting despite kasich's blunder. the "washington post" reports, "right wing groups are pouring more than $2 million into tv ads in the final days." issue 2 opponents are responding with an ad featuring apollo astronaut and former united states senator from ohio john glenn. >> here in ohio we don't turn our backs on those who watch ours. that's why i'm joining millions of ohioans who are voting no on issue 2. >> and of course "the ed show" will be live in ohio next week, monday and tuesday, bringing you the latest developments in the final vote on one of the biggest la

if john kasich -- >> fairness. >> if scott walk around john kasich and everybody else says, listen, the right. the numbers don't add up. people working for the government shouldn't pay 0% into retirement and we pay 5, 6, 10, 15%. when you take it a step further and say we'll use this opportunity to crush unions and collective bargaining you're right, harold. we said it in real time. that's when you bring in ideology. that's what happened. >> the number of people unionized in the country, the number continues to fall. it shows a lot of republicans you can't trample the rights of working people. you have talked about the occupy effort. all of these efforts played into the people saying it's not fair to treat working people that way. john kasich got the message and in due respect to john he said, i hear, i will abide by it. >> he said, quote, it was too much, too soon. i think he realizes that. one other interesting element to the story, a dry run for the obama campaign. obama for america has grassroots support in ohio for weeks to get it repealed. they did in a big margin. 62-38 was the v

romney saying at the time, "i stand with john kasich." then just a couple of weeks before the big vote on john kasich's union-stripping law, mr. romney scheduled a campaign event, an event at a phone bank in ohio to fire up republicans fighting to save john kasich's bill. at that campaign appearance, mitt romney refused to say that he supported the measure. even while he was there. cnn's peter handly tweeting at the time, "incredible moments in politics. romney visits ohio gop phone bank to rally troops opposing sb-5 repeal, but refuses to take a position on sb-5." after getting just flogged on the right -- flogged in the press -- for refusing to say he supported this thing, even while supposedly rallying its supporters in ohio, a day later, the romney campaign came out and said, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, he's 110% behind it, we guess. so mitt romney's last known position on the ohio union-busting issue is that he's 110% for the union-stripping bill. now that that thing has lost by 22 points in the polls in ohio, stay tuned! maybe we'

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does kasich take on any of the blame for how this went down or factors beyond his control?> well, he has to take some of the blame. he did. he was very honest about it. look, he was forth right and direct but he also was a bowl in a china shop in organizing what he did right after he got in on a narrow 51% victory. governor mcdonnell, by contrast, got 59% of the vote. he has been very cautious and careful. very methodical about how he has gone about reorganizing virginia and trying to change its direction. i think it's obvious which method works better. so as you note, they are very different states. >> laura: kys. know your state. that's my view. know how far you can push it. dr. sabato. great to see you. >> thanks, laura. >> laura: plenty more ahead as the factor moves along this evening. republic presidential candidate sick santorum in uphill battle. he will be here. how long will the occupiers hang on? we will have the latest and we hope you stay tuned to those reports. >> laura: in the personal story segment tonight, with the iowa caucuses less than two months away, th

. >> that's right, governor kasich, don't ignore the public. 61% of voters rejected kasich's union-busting law. they saved collective bargaining for public workers and showed the country how to fight back. voters across america, from maine to mississippi, to arizona, sent a message to republicans -- their radical agenda will not be tolerated. don't ignore the public, because eventually they'll make themselves heard, just like they did in ohio. where they collected more than 1 million signatures to put this on the ballot. the afl-cio knocked on more than 1 million endorse to get the message out. and in the process, they let the world know the middle class won't back down. so, yes, governor kasich, you were right when you want this last night. >> the people have spoken clearly. you don't ignore the public. >>> joining me now is ohio senator sherrod brown, who's been a leading voice in this fight. senator, in your mind, what does this message from last night of this victory, what does is it send to america? >> well, the middle class and those who aspire to be in the middle class puv back. it