katie couric got exposed. telemi telemundo got exposed. it's as relevant as it's ever been. he took them on hard over the vets issues. let me give you one example. i actually think the election is going to be about are you better off than you were eight years ago? >> right. >> has liberalism failed again? i think the answer's yes. does donald trump offer a better vision for the country? but let's take "the new york times." carrie prejean and this woman, rowanne brewer lane, you know, featured in "the new york times." a hit piece against trump. they didn't expose kathleen willey, interview her or juanita broaddrick. >> of course not. >> or paula jones. but they tried to smear and besmirch trump and it backfired and it backfired because the women, themselves, smopoke out d here's part of what they said. >> i basically, you know, wouldn't give them a story and now they came out with their own version of it and took, you know, something out of my book and just totally twisted it and made it so negative and i have nothing but positive things to say about donald trump. >> they wer

katie couric got exposed. telemi telemundo got exposed. it's as relevant as it's ever been. he took them on hard over the vets issues. let me give you one example. i actually think the election is going to be about are you better off than you were eight years ago? >> right. >> has liberalism failed again? i think the answer's yes. does donald trump offer a better vision for the country? but let's take "the new york times." carrie prejean and this woman, rowanne brewer lane, you know, featured in "the new york times." a hit piece against trump. they didn't expose kathleen willey, interview her or juanita broaddrick. >> of course not. >> or paula jones. but they tried to smear and besmirch trump and it backfired and it backfired because the women, themselves, smopoke out d here's part of what they said. >> i basically, you know, wouldn't give them a story and now they came out with their own version of it and took, you know, something out of my book and just totally twisted it and made it so negative and i have nothing but positive things to say about donald trump. >> they wer

order your kit now at ancestrydna.com >>> i reported extensively last week on how katie couric's gun documentary engaged in deceptive editing, a story that generate nod segments on cnn, msnbc, nbc, cbs or abc. couric said she was proud of the film but this week she addressed the trickery in which members were made to look dumbfounded for eight long seconds even though the president told me that's not what happened and produced the audiotape showing they actually had answered the former anchor's questions about background checks. >> if there are no background checks for gun purchasers how do you prevent felons or terrorists from purchasing a gun? >> i think because of how it -- the light that it casts on our members and our organization and gun owners in general that katie couric does indeed owe us an apology for what she did. it's the least she could do. >> couric now says the executive professor of under the gun i take responsibility for a decision that misrepresented an exchange i had with members of the virginia citizens defense league. i questioned her, theand the ed and was told

for years we have known katie couric as a journalist, some of us.k to old school. >> she's always been a liberal. >> that doesn't mean you can't be. >> but a liberal. >> here's is thing. this documentary, i agree with gina completely. this is an out fit piece. this has a specific political agenda. >> this was a manipulation. this was a manipulated purposefully distorted purposefully to advance an agenda. >> that's what i'm saying. it's a political agenda at play. to be fair, the right has done it at time asks the left. >> what journt. >> i'm not saying a journalist. there are political advanced documentaries from the right and left, but you cannot do it under the guide of journalism. that's what makes it problem. the first week stood by the documenta documentary. >> she got some push back. you brought up a very, very important idea. that is i am a conservative. i say i'm a conservative. the difference between myself and say, katie couric, or brian williams or dan rather or any of these reporters is they claim they're something they're not. they clai

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the katie couric situation is one. that other tape that you played, that telemundo was trying to stage a shot in front of a trump rally because they want to spoon feed the hispanics and the mexican community that trump is bad for them. i get calls every day on my radio show from latinos, hispanics and mexicans who say they are supporting trump. >> yeah. >> the gig is up. they know what's going on. lastly, telemundo needs to get the memo. this is the united states of america. show some american flags sometimes. not flags that represent hatred and represent divisiveness that they're trying to do it. should be about assimilation and not isolation and they want a certain group of people to be isolated in this country. >> i said journalism was dead in 2008. it's dead. all right. we'll take a break. we'll come back. more with laura ingraham, herman cain right after the break. >>> and also later tonight, a gorilla was shot and killed over the holiday weekend at the cincinnati zoo. after a 4-year-old boy fell into animal's enc

the new with uncalled the new documentary "under the gun" produced by katie couric. k couric said she took responsibility. let me show you the scene. this is couric interviewing a group of gun rights activists. notice what happens after she asks her question. >> let me ask you another question. if there are no background checks for gun purchasers, how do you prevent felons or terrorists from purchasing a gun? >> eight seconds of silence, making the activists look ignorant, like they didn't have an answer. the truth is they responded to her question right away. now the nra wants katie couric fired. you can see the tweet right there. meanwhile, gun control groups are rallying to her defense. here's the head of the bray did i campaign thanking her for standing up to bullies and telling the truth. let me bring back elizabeth harrington and david zurwick. elizabeth, "the free beacon" has led the way on this story. she said she was trying to add that pause in order to let are you satisfied by what the director and what the executive producer have said? >> i don't think so.

katie couric apologizes for her apparent film editing to make gunk activists -- to make gun kennedy:ouric apologized for a clip in her controversial gun documentary. >> let me ask you another question, if there are no background checks for gun purchasers, how do you prevent felons or terrorists from purchasing a gun? kennedy: we don't have an answer. but an audio recording and transcript show those interviews actually responded immediately and the director inserted that pause for dramatic effect. so she obviously failed to make some sort of point that she had to use dramatic for. what did she fail to say? >> she needed something to help her own narrative. this is a biased documentary. issue is with this editing, this is not a reality tv show. so you can paint the characters in a certain light. this is real people who are trying to make a point about begun rights. and they are not dumb. and they are being edited in a way that make it look that way. people have been on her for days and she wasn't giving an apology. kennedy: the story has grown outside of the gun rights community. >> sh

katie couric has had a very successful career.he did the right thing and accept the responsibility as executive producer of this. >> katie didn't do it. she said in her statement, i saw the screening and i asked the director about that. the director said she had only added a beat for, quote, dramatic effect. and then, you know, it was called to katie's attention what happened. she said, look, i regret it. we misrepresented this exchange. she got there. >> yes, she did question it, and not vigorously enough. here's a classic case of media bias. involving one of the world's most famous journalists and no coverage at all, not a single segment by cnn, msnbc, on nbc, on abc, on cbs. new york times has written about it. "the washington post" has written about it. imagine, it was a right-leading film and gun control activists were made to look deceptively stupid, i think that would have been the story. >> i think we would have seen it elsewhere. i will say there was a mention on cnn. so they -- >> by a guest but not by a host. >> oh, wow

and katie couric co-hosted it with me. >> seth: so you reached out to katie couric and just explainedry game and very charming and she said she hosted the real parade for 12 years. and so there was no one better to do it. and it was so strange for her. >> seth: and we have a clip. and she was fantastic. >> yes she is. >> seth: and you were fantastic, too. let's take a look at a clip. >> now here it is. >> i'm excited. >> nothing signals the arrival of the holiday season like a balloon of maggie gyllenhaal. >> yep, you're gonna want to make sure your kids are in the room for this because maggie gyllenhaal is coming to town. [ laughter ] and of course many of you out there know maggie's brother jake gyllenhaal who once [ bleep ] my friend liz. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: fantastic. congratulations on both your shows. >> thank you. >> seth: and everything else. it's always such a pleasure to see you. give it up for billy eichner everybody. >> i love you. >> seth: i love you too buddy. [ cheers and applause ] season two of "difficult people" premiers july 12th on hulu. w

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>> well, the katie couric piece is not that unusual. i'll be honest, i've given interviews and i said, wait a minute, they're not covering me that way. the best thing you can do is put down a tape recorder next to you because they make things up. i mean, the press is really dishonest, okay? i don't mean everybody, but a big portion of them especially the political press. they're the most dishonest people. they're bad people. >> yeah. all right. let me go to where the election is right now. you got a number of polls. you're up, for example, in the abc/"washington post" poll up. by a couple points. couple have you tied. it's going back and forth a little bit. the most interesting poll, though, i saw today was the state of new jersey where it's 38%-34% within the margin of error. could you win new jersey? >> i think so. i mean, i love new jersey. i am new jersey. like a second home. i have property there. i have a lot of employees there. it's, you know, i love new jersey. and frankly, i think we're going do well. everyone was shocked to se

then you got katie couric inserting eight seconds of dead air and including dramatic music to createomething that didn't happen. so it seems like when he says the media is scum and liars, that's resonating because most people don't trust them. >> yeah, look, i know lots of reporters as you do. most of them as individuals are decent human beings. but almost all of them are on the left. i think sometimes that trump overreaches when he doesn't need to. all he has to say is, look, these guys are our opponents. these reporters are on the other team. this is like having a bunch of referees in the ball game who are on the side of the other guys. you know, go in and actually block, tackle and carry the ball. i think he can do it without some of the nastiness. the truth is -- >> i don't think it's nasty, but they're writing things -- if "the new york times" writes a story that you abused women and all the women in the story come out and they defend you and say that "the new york times" purposely manipulated your words, i don't think there's -- i think they deserve what they get. >> well first

katie couric is here, everybody. we all know by now this is the creativity election americans have ever seen. attack ads have been replaced by twitter. saying terrible things now gets you more votes. and we watch aid man sleep walk through an entire presidential campaign. ( laughter ) but in all this chaos, thankfully, there is one pillar of consistency, and that is the national rifle association. ( laughter ) america's largest firearms lobby, and proud retailer of gun-shaped mailboxes for when you really want to shoot the messenger. every election, this organization remind us how powerful they are, and last friday they did it again by getting donald trump to fly to their national convention in louisville and pledge his support in exchange for their endorsement and that's really impressive. because donald trump doesn't care about the things republican leaders are supposed to care about. he supported planned parenthood. he doesn't support free trade. and he won't even wear those little reagan nipple clamps they're sup

. >> what are you katie couric now? is that your katie katie couric pause. >> they are up for robots, right? they say by then humanses will lose over half of the current jobs to ai. ai, of course, stands for alien illegal. marty suggests that machines will wipe out middle class jobs and further exacerbate income iny qult. inequality. some of the positions the robots will take over are bathroom attendants, stockbroker and lifeguards. plus judge jerry and eke constitutioner of -- and executioner of all mankind. he is fearful of the uprising saying, quote, i do not find this a promising future and i do not find the leisure only life appealing. i believe work is essential to the human we well being. >> thanks captain john smith. >> what do you think of the future filled with robots. >> i guess i am in the minority. i think the robot future is great. i high five them and celebrate that completely. this man is very dramatic and he is disgusted at the notion of all of us sitting around on lounge chairs siping pina cola dos as o

and try the micro-sculpting cream you love now with lightweight spf 30. >>> katie couric already under. in her new documentary "under the gun." making them look like they had blank stares and no answers to questions about background checks but newly leaked audiotapes tell a different story with activists actually providing answers. and it turns out this might not be the first time couric crossed the line. subjects from her 2014 documentary "fed up" now accusing couric of similar practices. one of those interview subjects is have david allison, the associate dean for science at the university of alabama at birmingham. and the director of the nutrition obesity research center. he joins us today from alabama. good morning to you, doctor. >> good morning. thank you for having me. >> okay. so this 2014 documentary that katie couric was behind called "fed up" it focused on obesity and the food industry. they asked you to be interviewed for it. why were they interested in your point of view? >> they had reached out to me before as they were planning the movie. and indicated to me that they we

coming up, the great katie couric is standing by. ♪ mark: as we said, today donald trump met with toprs to discuss fundraising efforts. here to tell us about that meeting and all things trump, our correspondent katie turner, who joins us from outside trump worn awhere she has groove into the ground because she stands there a lot. katie: it's cold. mark: cold in june. i have heard mixed things about the meeting, but one person who is pretty reliable suggested the donors were upbeat. they like to schedule coming together. they liked trump's seeming enthusiasm about raising money. same thingard the from two sources who were inside the meeting who felt donald trump had a pretty warm reception from those donors. certainly, the trump campaign was positive about it. they talked about how they are going to raise the amount of money they need to raise. they also told us how good the chicken was at the four seasons, but with a big smile on his face. they talked about the electoral map and what states they want to put them play. maryland is on it. that's a new state we have not heard. -- reincet

checking in on that with nbc's katie couric, who is here to lend a hand in this block.bc and politico both reported there is tension now between the national committee and the trump campaign. the chairman of the committee sent out this very trump-ian tw eet -- even included the exclamation point. the rnc announced haley barbour conventionp the organization committee next month, and utah, which was one statesp's first -- worst , their governor will chair the committee. what is the state of play between the republican party and the trump campaign? is there dissension above the norm or at the norm? weet washat rhince t very interesting. didn't it sound just like donald trump? that was certainly a public showing of support from the chairman to his nominee, but we had six different sources that interior what has been reading trust between the two sides and tensions that have been building, each one thinking that the other is only out or themselves. the rnc -- and we talked about this so many times -- encouraging and trying to get donald trump and his team to hire more people

. >> katie couric is caught selectively editing her anti-gun documentary. >> how do you prevent felonspurchasing a gun? [ silence

. >> to katie couric. and taking blame now saying she regrets this edit in her new documentary under the gun. >> there are no background checks for gun purchasers. how do you prevent felon or a terrorists from purchasing a gun? >> it turns out that long pause never really happened. it was added to make people think about the question. here's the gun activist's real response according to leaked audio. >> if there are no background checks for gun purchasers, how do you prevent felons or a terrorists from walking into say a licensed gun dealer and purchasing a gun? >> well, one if you are not in jail you should have your basic rights. >> couric says she should have done something about the miss leading scene. >> women crime discrimination over anti topless laws. activists in fort collins colorado calling for rules similar to new york city where women can go topless just like men. they are suing to reverse the city rule reinforced last year that criminalized bare chested women and issued a fines of 250 bucks.

don't discover -- i want to put it in context, this isn't just a little edit job for a story like katie couric when she got in trouble and had to apologize for documentary on guns for adding that eight seconds that made it look something like what it wasn't in her documentary, this is different. this is public records that have been scrubbed. >> i will not disagree with anything you said and he raised a great point. i don't know whether they taped conversations, whether they do the state department but at least they might have phone records of some sort and they should go through every single person there. there is no excuse and this is why people don't trust government. what else is missing? what else has been edited out? it is not a partisan issue. people are being paid for access to what they did. >> there were no rules against it. nobody did anything wrong so we are going to change the rules. now there is a will nobody can edit any of the briefing videos. that is a big toasty warm blanket. >> we will move on. tasty warm blanket sound so good. we will talk more about this controversy. overs

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it's katie couric. they wanted a dramatic pause. >> she's been after had he for years.een pursuing me. >> we'll be talking about this more tomorrow, i'm sure. >> bret baier will have more on this report coming up next after this show. >>> a gorilla was killed over the week at the cincinnati zoo, you heard plenty on that. not so much about the deadly shootings in chicago. we'll make sure that you hear about that when "the five" returns. . . . everything you're pretty good at now, you were once, well, pretty bad at. but you learned. and got better. at experian, we believe it's the same with managing your credit. you may not be good at it now. but that's okay. because credit isn't just a score. it's a skill. and you can get better. experian. be better at credit. ♪ ♪ >>> it was another deadly and violent week in chicago but it got scarce media coverage unlike the cincinnati zoo and the gorilla that got shot over the week. greg pointed out it is easier to protest an animal's killing than a human killing. news busters did a tal i didn't, abc, cbs and nbc had 54 times more cov

speaking of the press, katie couric, her documentary "under the gun," has been found to have had somective editing in it. she came out and said she regrets it now, that it was misleading and she didn't raise her concerns more vigorously. >> she waited so long. when you see what the documentary showed, which was a question posed by her to a group of the people she was doing this about, and they -- the gun rights advocates. and they sit there as far as the documentary showed in stoney silence. apparently stumped by her question. that didn't happen. this wasn't a matter of something being edited out. what was editing, edited in was the media silence. the documentary, that piece of the documentary was a falsehood. at first, she defended it. why or how she could defend it, i don't understand that. i've known her a long time. abc news, a million years ago. i can't understand it. but what that did was it fed the controversy, which then dragged on for days. until now, finally, she properly apologized for what happened, which was pretty blatant piece of editing. or insertion, i should say. >>

. >> sounds a lot like the katie couric debacle and explanation that she gave. >> yes. >> for reallyher documentary. >> irony is not lost on me the obama administration espouses to be the most transparent administration possible. the iran deal of anything he has done past seven-and-a-half nears of anything will have the most horrific long-term effects. i think my grandchildren will feel effects of iran deal. i think with i will be dangerous and catastrophic long-term. it doesn't surprise me they're editing out facts. if americans really understood we were giving to our enemies, billions of dollars i think people -- >> talking about facts about lying and lying about it. harris: the meat of this deal, ben rhodes not long ago was bragging about the fact they spun out a different tale a narrative through friendly reporters. what is it about this deal that they want to scrub interviews, they want to spin? what is in it? >> we're giving $100 billion to a country that screams death to america, death to israel in the streets. harris: it is the side deals. >> it is, i can't talk about it so m

we've got katie couric's deceptive gun control documentary and she finally is blatantly taking responsibilityr that. finally, a few words about mohammed ali, who is being hailed as the greatest, but was often vilified by the press in his early days when he stood up against the vietnam draft. >> we'll see you in 20 minutes. >>> meanwhile, our panel is up next. donald trump and hillary clinton continuing to circle around each other. we will get into it. the political panel will break down the latest back and forth on foreign policy between the two front-runners. we're looking ahead right now on "sunday morning futures." back in a moment. ♪ ♪ (singing) you wouldn't haul a load without checking your clearance. so why would you invest without checking brokercheck? check your broker with brokercheck. and intellectual propertylines about bubeing stolen.g hacked that is cyber-crime. and it affects each and every one of us. microsoft created the digital crimes unit to fight cyber-crime. we use the microsoft cloud to visualize information so we can track down the criminals. when it comes to the cloud,

. >> katie couric is caught selectively editing her anti-gun documentary. >> how do you prevent felons? [ silence

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he blasted reporters for their questions on vets and on hannity, he singled out katie cure couric for he says deceptive reporting on guns. and tomorrow, there will be a major foreign policy speech, but she's not accessible to the media, very different from trump. who is winning? the latest national poll shows that trump is catching up, hillary is four points ahead and only 2 points ahead when third party candidates are included. a chilling headline in america, a woman gives birth to a child with microcephaly. she carried a child with the zika virus. "varney & company" is about to begin. ♪ >> happy birthday to you ♪ ♪ happy birthday ♪ >> look at the graphic. [laughter] >> very funny. do you know how much it costs to create fake balloons? happy birthday indeed. marks one year since the move to the 9 a.m. to noon slot from "varney & company." the entire new fbn lineup is the fastest growing network on cable, thanks to you. you're much appreciated, thank you very much, everyone. and let's get to our bread and butter, which is the stock market. i reget to say there will be a lower opening.

he blasted reporters for their questions on vets and on hannity, he singled out katie cure couric for foreign policy speech, but she's not accessible to the media, very different from trump.

we look at katie couric flipping her story and saying whoops, maybe that was a pretty bad edit and maybehould take responsibility for that. the media is in a different place. this is the cool thing for everybody, for all people. all consumers of political news. democrat or republican, independent, socialist or otherwise. that is that, donald trump has single-handedly changed the way that media operates and with his presence in the media, he has taken to task the establishment republicans, the establishment democrats and the establishment media. it's exciting times. >> ladies and gentlemen, quick last comment. very quick. >> it's also using the media as a foil as opposed to holding us in the media accountable. he knows what he's doing and knows how disliked the media is and can use it. >> jessica, i promise i'll start with you next time. >> i'll hold you to it. >> trump should be held responsible for violent protests at his rallies. that's what some people are saying. a democrat in particular is saying it and hillary supporter responding to it. that's coming next. [ bleep ] my experience

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. >> yeah katie couric initially said she stands by the movie. second pause where it's shots of the audience of gun rights advocates looking like they were stumped by the question. >> cut to a gun. >> unfortunately for the director of the film, the full tape was produced by this group that showed them giving long, thought out 10 minute response to the question. >> examples of how to prevent guns from falling into the hands of felons which was the initial question. >> the answers were about the rights of gun owners. if you served your time in society, you should have the same rights as everybody else. there are legitimate arguments in the debate over background checks and gun ownership. >> i didn't see the clip but i read about it. >> it's stunning. how about you guys? yeah, i've read about it, joe. i haven't seen the clip. it sounds like the kind of thing that you don't do journalistically. >> have you seen it? >> haven't seen it but i'll say this is exactly what we don't need. i mean, this is the exact kind of thing that convinces people who sup