jim jordan, maybe kevin hern. are any of those names more palatable to you as speaker than kevin mccarthy? >> we are clear who our leader should be. hakeem jeffries. >> i am asking about the reality of these three. >> we want them to put forward a speaker who wants to do the job, not just hold the job -- >> let's play this out. if steve scalise wants to do it, making calls now, if that is -- is that someone you think is more palatable than a mccarthy? >> we stand ready to work with the speaker who is going to put the american people first. look what we did in the 117th with the exact same thin majority. infrastructure bill with bipartisan support. bringing manufacturing back. lowering the cost of health care. gun safety legislation. protecting the freedom and right to an abortion. that's what we were able to do. so where is that leadership? and this catering to extremism, we'll see who they put up. but we know that hakeem jeffries embodies, what the american people are looking for from us. >> do you really believe

byron donalds, mike johnson, kevin hern. caller: there should be a litmus test to help out one way or the other and that test is no one who voted to dessert file the 2020 election should be anywhere near the speaker's house. they are trying to ensure that we have an autocracy instead of democracy. i have no problem with democrats working across the aisle or the republicans working across the aisle. but those who dessert filed, they are antidemocratic and violated their oath by voting against who won a free and fair election. and that's my opinion. host: new york is where tina is joining us on our independent line. caller: i pride myself on listening to both sides. when this kevin mccarthy back tracking on how he felt about the 2020 election and everything goes back to this. the speaker issue is just one of them. the republicans need to take back their party and stop being afraid of whatever they are afraid of and start serving the american people. we are watching. they sit up there we are trying to work for you and point fin

i know kevin hern well. all very capable people. at this stage of the game, neil, the republican conference needs somebody to step up to the plate and lead. i think the guy that is in the best position right now to do what needs to happen to the republican conference is steve scalise. >> neil: were you surprised that donald trump did weigh-in and say that he thinks otherwise? he thinks jim jordan? >> not really. mr. trump likes to get involved in all things political. as chad said, look, this -- that could be zero sum. could be helpful to jim. could be detrimental in some respects. all i can tell you is this decision will be made by our conference in a secret ballot on a tuesday night. hopefully we will be able to rally and coalesce around one individual and with the clock ticking on a continuing resolution that ends in november, we need to get about the business of our country. >> neil: much has been said about who becomes the next speaker, he or she, will still have the same narrow majority for republicans. that -- an easier way t

and i also caught up with kevin hern who is a chairman of that largest republican group, conservative group, within the large hst house gop conference. he is open to running as well. jordan an hern both made their pitch about why they think that they could be the next speaker. >> what do you say to moderates who are concerned about your politics, your conservative politics? >> i think we're a conservative center right party. i think i'm the guy who can help unite that. my politics are consistent with where conservatives are across the country. >> what i'm listening from people, they want a different face, they want somebody to put policies over personalities. and in looking to see what we can do about listening a lot and seeing how we will move forward. >> reporter: kevin hern did not say that he was definitely running for speaker. he is simply listening to his members. he may run for other leadership positions as well. a number of members are looking to get into different spots within the leadership. and it is not just a game of musical chairs. this is so significant because it deter

kevin hern is also someone who could go for that position. he was considering a run for speaker. he's head of the republican study committee. more perhaps of a fresh face. more recent member of congress. there could be a very big race for majority leader. there are a number of positions such as deputy. controls the calendar. play as major role in deciding the direction of the conference. host: what is the mood of the republican party after emerge interesting that closed door meeting today? eric: i think they are still divided. jim jordan himself coming out of steve scalise's office. divided conference. there are people who certainly felt that rushing to the floor today for a speaker vote was inappropriate. they want to get their bearings and see what their move s scalise is looking to that and decide the not to quickly rush for a vote. there is a lot of scrambling. a lot of sense of can they finally come together? we have a big test for the new speaker whoever it is in november we have the funding deadline. continued inability to finish the fiscal 2024 bill which were due on octo

kevin hern, the leader of the republican study committee.e said right now he's just looking at this, that no, he is not officially a candidate. but obviously it's still early. but you want to start making those asks. you want to start making those moves if you're really serious about trying to get this top job in the house. boris? >> yeah, a busy week for these potential next speakers before the full vote, potentially as soon as next wednesday. lauren fox, thank you so much. pamela? >> i'll take it from here. i want to talk more about this with republican strategist alice stewart and democratic strategist maria cardona. they co-host the podcast "hot mics from left to right." so i want to game this out. alice, would jim jordan, a hard right strong ally of donald trump, have enough votes for moderates to be speaker in your view? >> many of the republicans i'm talking with feel as though he would not. and the reason being look, he is very strong and committed on issues that he fights hard for. he's fought really hard for this impeachment not ag

and my next guest is running, oklahoma congressman kevin hern. heard mark green make your case that you're the guy. >> mark is a dear friend of mine. we came in together and he's a great leader himself. david: can you make the case that you can unite the various factions that have been come having trouble coming up with a speaker? >> every person running can say they'll do it. the question, can they do it and have they done it. before coming to congress i spent my entire career working alongside other franchisees from mcdonald's, 3,000, coast to coast and border to border and bringing them together to have a functioning organization and now the last 10 months in the majority i've chaired the republican study committee, the conservative conscience of the congress. 8 80 who i've had on the policies and politics of what's going on and plus, on top of that, i served on the five families, five caucus leadership group with speaker mccarthy almost the last year working through the policies so i know all of the similar interests, what needs to be done al

kevin hern, thank you for your time.ous, powerful majority leader we hope you come back on the show but we appreciate you today pitching in. great information. >> thank you, coming up here on "kudlow," joe biden's iran appeasement put at least an extra $60 billion in iran's pockets, now folks, exactly what do you think iran is doing with that money? take a guess anyway. we'll talk about it with distinguished senator from missouri eric schmitt. got a real bad wholesale price inflation report today. former federal reserve governor stick with "kudlow," we'll be a right backnd straight with voya, considering all your financial choices ahead. voya. well planned. well invested. well protected. your best defense against erosion and cavities is strong enamel- nothing beats it. new pronamel active shield actively shields the enamel to defend against erosion and cavities. i think that this product is a gamechanger for my patients- it really works. this is a special alert. israel is under attack and israel's enemies seek our destru

conference vice chair me johnson, along with representatives austin scott, jack bergman, byron donalds, kevin hern, and pete sessions, gary palmer of alabama dropped out of the race in the last hour. at this morning's meeting set for 9 a.m. eastern, membe vote in multiple rounds until a

. >> let me interrupt you because while you were speaking, kevin hern from oklahoma told nbc news hisin. tell us about him. tell us about, as you were saying, other possibilities. >> reporter: yeah, so kevin hern who actually had floated his name a couple of other opportunities as potentially a candidate for speaker when he was pitching himself as a consensus candidate, he's a conservative. he would definitely be in line with some of the hard right members of the party at this point. the other name being floated. he's confirmed to julie tsirkin he's in the race, austin scott, the back bencher from georgia who surprised everyone by putting his name against jim jordan a couple of days ago, and was able to collect more than 80 votes. there's jack bergman, a senior member of the caucus who has pitched himself as a candidate that would only serve until the end of this particular congress as kind of a bridge builder, someone to just get them to the next stage of this conversation. not somebody that's interested in the job long term. those are three names we have right now. there's a whole h

we are hearing names like people like steve scalise, jim jordan, kevin hern. do you like any of? those -- have you heard from them? >> i have not, but i have been on the media trail pretty hot and heavy. i think elise stefanik could be one, you can figure, maybe. maybe mark green out of tennessee. there's a lot of people that we have a very deep -- i don't think that's going to be the problem. i think once we elect this person -- i think we can probably do it in the first round. i think, also, people will rally around them and we will see just like when you put in a new quarterback in and -- and the -- >> we have seen that in alabama a lot this season. and -- >> alabama -- tennessee boy -- y'all play football in alabama? >> we will get back to that in a moment. but when it comes to what the rules for the next house speaker actually look like, will you insist on keeping that one vote motion to vacate for whoever is actually the -- >> i have thought about that a lot. but i have -- that doubt in my mind. i don't know if it's important. i think it served its purpose. and honestly i d

mike johnson and kevin hern both did a fantastic job today.ing their name in that maybe haven't been on the radar yet. whether or not we go back to a candidate forum or we can figure out how to start voting again, that is up to the conference. it would take a unanimous concept motion to everybody go without objecting and go straight in to forum. we're trying to sort that out right now. >> neil: what about kevin mccarthy? >> you know what? he did a great job. there's a lot of us in the conference that want that. he's not signals to anyone that that's anywhere where he is at. he was behind tom emmer. before that he was firmly behind jim jordan. i was behind jim jordan. he presented our conference a unique opportunity to come together as a party. i'm not just talking about the house of representatives, i'm talking about the schism and every state party for the gop in the nation. i felt like jim jordan could put this two sides together. >> neil: are you worried about how this makes your party look, congressman? not that this is your fault. the way

again, as kevin hern said, these are family conversations. not to be aired in public. and further, what would they negotiate away on fox news? were they going to make commitments on ukraine, is that condition of becoming speaker or what kind of idiotic things might they have thrown away on television that -- these conversations have to happen among the members, not in this wider audience. so i'm glad they scrapped it. but it was absolutely boneheaded idea to think that this was good. in fact i wonder if some of the guys really have a sense of the conference if they are willing to go on television to talk about this. just shows the influence of these outside groups that they have on the inside of how the republican conference works. that is a major -- >> congressman upton, you served in the house for 36 years. and when you left you called congress more toxic than ever before. as you look at the way mccarthy was ousted, is it even more toxic than since you left? >> you know, it really is. i mean, it is amazing. even look at the public -- charlie and adam kinzinger are go

after that rep kevin hern of oklahoma. we are seeing a khruftering at the -- khr*usering of the -- includessering of the top contenders. how those votes gets distributed as more and more members are eliminated. and whether or not people, i guess, congressman emmer, can get to a majority kphreurbl or if this goes -- sphreurbgsly or if it -- expeditiously or goes down to the wire. host: if a candidate does emerge, what is expected to play out for the remainder of the day? guest: i think as with everything the last couple weeks, things are very much fluid. and in changing my the moment. i think it's entirely possible we can see a floor vote. one certainly has not been forecast. i think we'll have to see how the mat plays out. this is something where congressman emmer is able to convincingly get a majority that may bolster the chances of folks having a floor vote today. i think it's going to go down to the mass and whether or not we hear any signs of internal discontent. with republicans having such a narrow majority, you can

kevin hern, chairman of the republican committee, the largest group of conservatives is open to the idea of running. he is floating his name according to sources that we have spoken to. also, we'll see what tom emmer, the republican whip decides to do, or if he gets behind steve scalise, a current number two of the house majority leader, whether he decides to run for speaker. so a lot of questions in this tumultuous moment for the gop. can they pick up the pieces? and k they get their agenda going? can they avoid a government shutdown? all huge questions after kevin mccarthy becomes the first speaker to meet his fate on the f floor of the house. manu raju, cnn, capitol hill. >> joining know maine now is larry sabato, director at the center for politics at the university of virginia. thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you, rosemary. >> kevin mccarthy ousted as house speaker by his own party after a vote led by hard-right republicans, the first such removal in congressional history. how significant is this? and what does it reveal about the inner turmoil of the gop at this time?

byron donalds of florida, tom emmer of minnesota, kevin hern of oklahoma, and mike johnson of louisiana the fourth round is now underway. so will this whittle its way down to one person? that would be the goal. it's taken awhile to get to four. senior capitol hill correspondent chat pergram on where things stand right now, chad. reporter: good morning, harris. they started with eight candidates and down to 7 and now down to four candidates in the fourth round and i'll redo the totals from the room and closed door secret ballots since 9:00 this morning. tom elmoreer, ma majority whipm hernandez and three voted presen this fourth round of voting. tom emmer far and away is scoring the most ballots and looks to have a cluster between johnson, donalds and kevin hern there. he's lot a bit of support and if they get to three person race, what happens, are they able to coalesce around a candidate and move to the floor? i was told by somebody earlier this morning that probably easy to get to 200 votes on the floor if they were to go to a floor vote, but closing that last mile getting to 217, tha

you have jim jordan, kevin hern and steve scalise. three great leaders.thanks, congressman. good seeing you. >> thanks. god bless. >> neil: there's eight republicans that didn't feel the same way about some of the establishment players, particularly kevin mccarthy, including south carolina's nancy mace who has gotten a lot of criticism off of funding of that strategy to take out the speak ir. why she doesn't run away from that despite what ron desantis is saying. she's embracing that. ♪ hit it ♪ ♪ it takes two to make a thing go right ♪ ♪ it takes two to make it outta sight ♪ ♪ one, two, get loose now ♪ ♪ it takes two to make a... ♪ stay two nights and get 5k bonus points. book direct at bestwestern.com. we planned well for retirement, but i wish we had more cash. you think those two have any idea? that they can sell their life insurance policy for cash? so they're basically sitting on a goldmine? i don't think they have a clue. that's crazy! well, not everyone knows coventry's helped thousands of people sell their policies for cash. even term policies. i

they all have good relationships with everyone from tom emmer to steve scalise to kevin hern and even jim jordan. so i think that it is tough to say that just because these eight assumed removing kevin mccarthy that they are going to have a similar line of thinking going into the next congress. >> much of it was very personal, but i keep going back to the previous two republican speakers that i covered, i remember waking up one day and we all suddenly realized that speaker boehner was going to up and leave. which we were all extraordinarily surprised by. and then of course paul ryan who announced hey, you know what, i don't want to do this anymore. this one involuntary. even though we're focused on the eight hardliners, i fail to see how the bigger problem is going anywhere for the republicans in the house. >> another name we haven't mentioned, donald trump is also being floated for speaker. >> probably unrealistic, but it does say a lot about the climate. >> he says that he is open to the job, he is dealing with a lot of legal challenges. he is traveling around the country running fo

the votes is oklahoma's kevin hern, who believes he has what it takes because he used to run a fast food franchise. >> i think what the members of our conference are looking for is somebody that's got a broader depth of leadership. something different. you know, i spent 35 years in business working with probably with one of the largest brands in the world in mcdonald's. >> stephen: running a mcdonald's qualifies you to be second in line to the presidency? ♪ ba da ba ba ba ♪ i'm doubtin' that! i could go... i could go for some fries. there's more good news out there. two of trump's co-defendants have flipped on him. [cheers and applause] the first is trump lawyer and aunt leaving a scathing yelp review about the family barbecue, sydney powell. you may remember sydney powell. she pushed crazy conspiracy theories about how the ghost of hugo chavez rigged the 2020 election, and promised to publish non-existent evidence of widespread fraud, vowing to release the "kraken." turns out, it was less "release the kraken" and more "i think she might be smoking the kraken." powell wasn't known just f

thank you. >> thank you, sir. >> charles: tomorrow on "cavuto live", we'll have kevin hern running forhe house speaker. that's tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. eastern. more after this. with the freestyle libre 2 system, know your glucose level and where it's headed. no fingersticks needed. manage your diabetes with more confidence. freestyle libre 2. try it for free at freestylelibre.us every day, more dog people are deciding it's time for a fresh approach to pet food. developed with vets. made from real meat and veggies. portioned for your dog. and delivered right to your door. it's smarter, healthier pet food. this is a special alert. israel is under attack and israel's enemies seek our destruction. the people of israel need immediate help. rockets have us squarely in the crosshairs. our people are targets in their own homes. many have lost everything and fear for their lives. the international fellowship of christians and jews has launched an urgent response to rescue those affected by this violent attack. our teams are on the ground across israel delivering lifesaving aid. your urgently nee

i think kevin hern would be good. i think that there are a few people, but we were focusing on what the american people wanted, we were focusing and giving representative jordan the respect that he deserved. again, we are going to have to go back to the drawing board and i do think that it's important to note that, remember, we have a cr that's ending in less than, i think, 27 days now. we have a war in the middle east. we just had president biden try to lump israel and ukraine funding into a request that we're clearing not going to even be able to address. so we have a lot of issues right now and, again, going back to what just happened, you saw people puttyin ego before the american people. >> what's your message to the eight gop members who voted to oust mccarthy. >> i'm not going to go back and address that. let me remind the american people and my own conference that they voted on that historical thomas jefferson rule motion to vacate the chair, that was something that predated the 118th congress, something that

there is kevin hern, the republican from oklahoma and patrick mchenry who is the interim speaker rightow. speaker pro tem and tom cole the house rules committee chair. >> steve: speaking of rules, one thing the republican main street caucus which has 68 members, they made it very clear before anybody votes for speaker, they have got to change that rule that allows one person vote on vacating the chair. >> ainsley: smart. >> steve: that's how matt gaetz was able to lead this capital coup on tuesday night. it's interesting how many people have suggested have suggested donald trump as speaker. donald trump himself was asked a little bit about it. he said this yesterday here in new york city. >> a lot of people have been calling me about speaker. all i can say is look at whatever is best for the country and for the republican party. >> would you take the job? a lot of people have asked me about it. i'm focused. i'm sure you don't read too much in papers. i'm leading by like 50 points for president. you know, my focus is totally on that. if i can help them during the process, i would do it.

i agree that tom emmer is the leading candidate probably followed by kevin hern but the next speaker of the house is going to have the same problem that mccarthy had. they're going to have to cut a deal before november 17th, keep the government open and i suspect the hardliners who tanked mccarthy would tank any other republican speaker who is going to have to make the same kind of compromises. >> i want to get your reaction to the former speaker, mccarthy, again, blaming democrats on "meet the press" for the speaker -- for all the chaos and i think incorrectly talking about what they did with the government shutdown. >> eight republicans led by gaetz have created this chaos by joining every single democrat. what hakeem jeffries has just done changed the institution itself to say it's okay to always make a motion to try to shut down one branch of government. no democrat would vote, they all voted just like they did to shut this -- to throw me out. >> it does seem that blaming the democrats is a bridge too far. >> it is a bridge too far. i mean, that's their campaign message so they c

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i'm told, it's unclear if kevin hern or anybody else can get the votes to win as speaker, that they would have to burn through one more person before they might try to put into effect this plan to vote to give patrick mchenry the speaker pro-tem full powers to run the house of representatives. they at least have to go one more round and see where they stand, but the thing staring down the pike at them, trying to fund the government in a month's time and also trying to deal with this aid package that president biden announced last night for taiwan and ukraine and israel. that's something they want to address, the senate probably considering if you compare to the house will be able to move that rather expeditiously in the next couple weeks and something i was told very early on in this process when they kicked out kevin mccarthy, the former speaker, i said when will this process be over, when will they tap a speaker, and one learned hand here on capitol hill said chad, the deadline is really when they have to fund the government come mid november and that might be the deadline to get a spea

but you were talking, kevin h hern, johnson, mike johnson and quite a few have thrown their hat in they, the heat of exchanges between them are happening all over the place, including social media. here is congressman greg murphy with a tweet for an next post nancy mace, "how about apologizing for this mess and she said we should not go home and two we have a speaker." >> jeff: it is emblematic of the implosion, really in the house. republican party in the caucus right now. it is an example of inability to govern or am i guaranteed the democrats will use against them and the next election. it is a gift in some way for the democrats. the white house and president biden's campaign, criticizing republicans for not being able to get their act together. they are wanting to have, perhaps, a policy debate about funding. they can't even engage in one because republican house doesn't have a speaker and isn't able to proceed with even a debate about that funding until they do. it is really, really tricky for that party and for the situation in the house. i'm glad you didn't ask me what is next b

conference vice chair me johnson, along with representatives austin scott, jack bergman, byron donalds, kevin hern, and pete sessions, gary palmer of alabama dropped out of the race in the last hour. at this morning's meeting set for 9 a.m. eastern, membe vote in multiple rounds until a candidate win as majority of all votes cast. the u.s. house has bn scheduled to meet at 11 a.m. eastern with a flo vote on elect agnew speaker possible. as always watch live coverage of the house here on c-span. -- "w" continues. host: henry olson serves as the senior fellow and columnist for the washington post. thank you for joining us. guest: thank you for having me. host: back to the speaker race. what is the lesson most are getting? guest: cast, disarray. a more extreme version of what they have come to expect. the americans show great distrust for congress and it has been going down and if you are the average american, you just toss your hands up and safe these people can't get it together. i suspect right now they are saying it is just dysfunction in more of the same. host: are there common themes a wide pub

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listen to what kevin hern said earlier today. >> all of this is going on up here right now is one more further distraction to the american people. they want real results, and i believe i could deliver those if the people up here want to put me in that place. >> would you take the job with one person being able to pull the plug on you? >> absolutely. you know, i have never been one to shy away from the accountability of the leaders. i've had accountability as a leader my entire life. i don't think the rule is the problem. i think that we have to perform going forward. >> reporter: now, there is the problem that the speaker's office is currently vacant, and that is definitely something that these house members are going to have to deal with. but it really seems in many ways that they're going to have to just throw the entire playbook out and start from scratch. many members are concerned about this idea that any one member can pull a motion to vacate at any period of time and that that cloud is hanging over the speaker's office at any particular time. many members calling for a full sail

host: because we have heard from conservative republicans, ralph norman, marjorie taylor greene, kevin hern from john bresnahan's reporting, says he's the republican study chair committee, he opposes this idea of gettingatrick mchenry. temporary 30uers -- powers until january. that would, some arc, give jim jordan more time to get the votes. 217 he needs. getting those republicans' opponents onboard. do you agree with that? caller: i have mixed feelings about it. honestly i would like -- i would rather have jim jordan. i don't want the government to shut down. i want stuff to get through. we have to get back to work eventually. maybe just give him temporary powers until we finally have somebody elected. what i don't like about what they are doing this time is that when kevin mccarthy was getting elected, 15 times, they would do multiple times a day. until somebody was elected. or until three or four votes a day. they are doing one. take ago break. that's why i'm starting to get annoyed. you are not trying to get somebody elected. you are just goofing off at that point. you are taking four d

oklahoma republican kevin hern also says he's considering a bid but says he will let his republican colleagues decide his fate next week. i didn't volunteer to do. that something that came in washington do that. when you have people asking about taking a different direction. but we've done doctor casey berg it from the george washington university says whoever republicans choose will become one of the most powerful positions in washington. the speaker is is 3rd in line of succession. >> and with an aging and on popular a vice president at the time. and kamala harris, the speaker is incredibly important position. and president biden really saw eye to eye with former speaker mccarthy says he's prepared to work with his replacement some people. i imagine could be easy to work with others. >> speakers trying to workers. >> house republicans are scheduled to return to capitol hill on monday for a closed door meeting for now in washington. i'm anna wiernicki. back to you. >> today, kaiser health care workers were on the picket lines for the final day of a three-day strike. this week's demonstration

congressman jim jordan also not ruling out a bid and another name being floated, oklahoma congressman kevin hern, the head of the republican study committee. but even some republicans who voted to oust mccarthy admit they don't have a replacement in mind yet. >> any idea on who you would support to be the next speaker of the house? >> anybody but ken buck? >> republicans will huddle behind closed doors on tuesday day, meaning that a vote for the next speaker won't come until at least next wednesday. rhiannon. all right, liz, thank you for that. >> the speaker does not need to be a current member of the house, so some republicans have floated a familiar name for the job. donald trump. stay with abc news for more coverage of the chaos at the capitol with in-depth analysis on the abc news app. >> speaking of former president trump, he's expected back in court this morning for the third day of his new york fraud trial after the judge yesterday imposed a partial gag order. the judge made trump delete a social media post that criticized his law clerk. the judge is now forbidding all parties from posti

we've also heard kevin hern, i believe he is from oklahoma talk about rung. what other names have you heard? and is there anybody in particular that you like at this point? >> i like all of them. and that's not just a political answer as i smoke a few cigars with tom cole, a great guy. he says he is not runnings. >> he is not. okay. >> that's what he told us. and i think on another network he made that statement as well. jim jordan, a great guy. when i was coming up here, the people in my district said don't vote for kevin mccarthy. vote for jim jordan. i said well, jim jordan is not rung. he is voting for kevin mccarthy. now that he is running, i think he deserves a close look. tom emmer, our majority whip is also a great individual, a man of integrity. there are quite a few names. jodey arrington, our budget chair. no one has a better grasp on the budget. that is a singular thing, that and border security, two things we really need to correct in america if we can move forward. >> very interesting. congressman alford, and for the people out there wondering h

we saw kevin hern, big conservative chairman of the republican study committee was also getting votes going to have to get back in the room to see who is willing to run and be a candidate for speaker but i also hope there are 8 republicans that joined the democrats, against kevin mccarthy, they need to apologize and heal our conference to move forward. larry: marjorie, i'm so old, now that you remind me i remember the 1855 thing. i was around, i was a bit young at the time but i was a researcher for abe lincoln in those days but you know, in all seriousness, what you say is important. i'm not going to pick winners and losers. that's not my job. we rely on you and a, just a handful of others to help us on this but, you know, i don't know that we can go two months. i think two weeks might be even, we just need, israel needs our help. i think you would agree with that. we got to move ahead on the budget. the treasury is borrowing too much money. interest rates are going up. mortgage rates are now above 8%. housing market is getting killed. ordinary middle class working folks can't afford

to gain the support of colleagues, any means are used, so the republican candidate, kevin hern, senteseburgers with an appeal to vote for him. let me remind you that the election of the speaker of the house of representatives is carried out in due to the resignation of kevin macarthy. usa. are installing most of the aid to gabon, the country’s state department announced this. according to the department, there has been a military coup in the republic and washington is not ready to sponsor the new government, while noting that humanitarian aid will not stop yet, it is possible to return the support of the states, but on the condition that gabon fulfills all the necessary requirements. let me remind you that the government in gabbone changed 2 months ago, and since then the country has been led by military groups. russian industrialists announce a decrease... profitability, due to new fur fish in the kalininsk region, all fish exports were completely stopped. konstantin churikov found out how the budget support measure affected specific industries. since the beginning of the month , ru

another contender, rep kevin hern of oklahoma is reportedly a popular choice amongst the hard—line houseto democratic congressman raja krishnamoorthi of illinois for a wide—ranging interview — including the race for house speaker. congressman, great to have you back on bbc news. it is not yet clear when there will be a vote for the speaker of the house, possibly wednesday, but from what you're hearing and seeing from your republican colleagues across the aisle what do you expect to see next week? i don't know, sumi. i'm expect to see next week? i don't know, sumi. i'm always surprised when things unfold the way they do. on wednesday i expect we will actually see the balloting and elections, and as some of your viewers might recall, it was a very interesting affair. the last time this happened injanuary, i hope it's not as chaotic and it's not the circus that it was back then. so what do you make of the former president reportedly visiting the capital on tuesday? i honestly don't know. some people say he is merely going to help unify people ahead of their elections on wednesday, other peo

already half a dozen republicans have jumped into the race, including tom emmer, byron donalds and kevin hern who leads the largest conservative caucus in the house. it is shaping up to be a messy race. these candidates have not had a head start, so it's going to be a while before anyone is able to unify around a candidate in the party. as of now, no speaker, no consensus and no ability to govern. >>> the humanitarian crisis in gaza grows more dire. ahead, what's next for the region. and could there ever be a path to peace? that's next as our coverage of the war involving israel and hamas continues. you're probably not easily persuaded to switch mobile providers for your business. but what if we told you it's possible that comcast business mobile can save you up to 75% a year on your wireless bill versus the big three carriers? it's true. plus, when you buy your first line of mobile, you get a second line free. there are no term contracts or line activation fees. and you can bring your own device. oh, and all on the most reliable 5g mobile network nationwide. wireless that works for you. it's

another contender, rep kevin hern of oklahoma is reportedly a popular choice amongst the hard—line houseed auto workers says it will not expand its walk—out against the detroit auto—makers this week. the union president said that general motors had agreed that electric battery manufacturing will be covered in the next contract between gm and the union. however, uaw president shawn fain said the parties haven't reached a full resolution yet. the uaw went on strike with detroit auto—makers back in september, calling for better wages, pensions, work hours and retiree benefits. meanwhile, kaiser permanente health care workers entered the third day of their strike on friday. workers are demanding better wages and safe staffing levels. the strike is due to conclude on saturday, but union officials now say it could be extended by ten days — raising concerns about delays to patient care. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. a man has appeared in court charged with plotting to kidnap and murder the british tv presenter holly willoughb

majority chip, byron donalds, a florida republican, who is also a member of the freedom caucus, and kevin hern, who leads the largest conservative caucus in the house. as of right now, it's shaping up to be a messy race. the candidates have not had a head start, so it's going to be awhile before anyone is able to unify around a candidate in the party. but as of right now, no speaker, no consensus and no ability to govern. melny zanona, cnn, capitol hill. >> that's just dizzying to follow. joining us to analyze what could happen next is former republican congressman charlie dent. i want to get your reaction. to you recognize this house of representatives? >> no, sadly, the house republican conference is deeply fractured. and with you're seeing play out in realtime is a real battle between what i would call the pragmatic and institutionalists versus i'll say the trump pop list wing of the party. and obviously, the trump pop list has great numbers, but it seems like for the first time they have been engaged. what i see happening now is that the two camps, the institutionists said no to jim jordan

representative kevin hern, representative austin scott, representative jack berman and representative emmer and byron donald. joining me is michael schnell, a congressional reporter for the hill. good to see you. so this long list, this growing list, i guess, who at this point seems to be the frontrunner? >> yeah, amara, look, the key question is who isn't running for speaker rear than who is? that field is just growing and growing by the day. right now it appears that tom emmer is going to emerge as the frontrunner. he is currently the majority whip. he previously served -- he served in leadership for a few years now. he will be the highest anking republican to be vying for this seat now and would essentially be third in line after mccarthy came scalise and then after scalise the highest resppublica in the conference is tom emmer. he received a large boost last week winning the endorsement from former speaker kevin mccarthy. so a significant boost there. we will have to see if he is able to, you know, get enough support from all different corners of the conference. as you mention, th

he is the type of person i could see myself supporting, supporting tom emmer, jody harrington, kevin hern, and people like lee zeldin are well thought of. >> griff: only thing certain, we are in for a lengthy and bitter battle with emotion raw. kelly armstrong on with you guys earlier talking about it. watch. >> the cost of my vote for a new speaker is rule change to our conference, i'm not interested in petty personal attack, i would like to have a position where one vote, particularly one of the most extreme votes becomes irrelevant, otherwise same car with different driver. >> griff: short list of names, you see steve scalise a front-runner, emmer, stefanik, patrick mchenry, johnson and of course jim jordan. one thing for sure, whoever it ends up being, you have another deadline six weeks away. november 16th, the government will run out of money, this environment is unclear what the plan will be. >> todd: are there any investigations going on? they can continue with the impeachment inquiry. yesterday they were moving ahead with one interview. anything else? >> great question, brian, la

so far, we have congressman mike johnson, kevin hern, austin scott, jack bergman, tom emmer and byrononald. cnn national political reporter daniel strauss is joining us from washington. good morning to you. the majority whip, tom emmer, he has the endorsement from former speaker mccarthy. he is the assumed frontrunner? tell us about him. >> no, he is a former nrcc chair. look, the pattern overall is that none of these -- there is no definitive frontrunner in this race to be speaker. and the feeling on capitol hill right now is that if you want to be speaker, if you have thought about it and you are in the republican caucus, why not give it a try right now? i have never seen anything like this. there is no real clear outcome coming out of this, and there is no real clear end to this. we don't know what's going to happen or how -- who could emerge in the end. there is no clear frontrunner or leader unlike in the past where you saw with, say, paul ryan, that even though he said he wasn't interested, there were forces pushing him and his ambition was also driving him. it's not the case he

they're facing potential challengers like house majority whip tom emmer and oklahoma representative kevin herno are known by the collective name, "huuuhh?" now, it might not be any of those guys. because, according to the constitution, the speaker of the house doesn't technically have to be a sitting member of congress. so, naturally, like a turd in a hot tub, one name has floated to the surface. according to fox news, house republicans are trying to draft trump as speaker. don't worry. but there's no way trump can be drafted. he's got the bone spurs. the former president himself weighed in today, and he's not ruling it out. >> a lot of people have been calling me about speaker. all i can say is we'll do whatever is best for the country. >> stephen: oh, well, then slather yourself in honey and let the fire ants have at you. [cheering] republicans aren't the only ones dealing with chaos. there's also a scandal brewing in the white house. because we just learned that biden's dog bit a secret service officer. that's right. we have breaking news. dog bites man! it's not the first time biden's dog,

we are talking about a couple of candidates, steve scalise, kevin hern, that work is beginning for steve scalise and his team. they have done this before. they know how to fundraise. kevin mccarthy likes that life, knows how to do it. there's a question about the other people in the race. do they know how to do that and can they put a team together to try to lock things down? that's why stepheve scalise has such an advantage. >> when the dog catches the car or the car stops and the dog runs into it breaking its muzzle and other bones. trump weighing in on this is not subtle. he holds enormous sway over a significant portion of the house republican conference, more so than he does in the senate. in the house he can control things. he can move things around. when does he get involved explicitly, do you think? >> my understanding from talking to sources the calculation was he didn't see anything in it one way or the other. gaetz heard what he thought he wanted to hear from the former president. mccarthy's team didn't seem to send any signals. on the campaign side, man, i think i'm going to

leading candidate here to mike johnson of louisiana with 34 vote, and byron donalds with 29, and kevin hern with 27, and the rest in the teens. so they go out now on the second round of balloting, and the ultimate goal is for someone to be the majority vote to be the nominee of the speaker of the house, but there are warning signs for the top vote getter tom emmer, he needs 217 votes on the house floor to be elected and meaning that he cannot lose more than four republicans, but some are concerned about his votes including to codify same-sex marriage in the last congress. i asked one congress about that issue, and me made it clear that he would oppose tom emmer on the floor on that vote. >> how concerned are you about the vote on same-sex marriage? >> very concerned. >> reporter: could you vote against him? >> yes. >> reporter: any way you would vote for him? >> no. >> reporter: so that is the same warning sign that emmer has that other candidates before him have, is winning the republican nomination, but unable to get the votes on the house floor, and when we see if it comes to that, and w

. >> reporter: that last comment is from kevin hern. he's flirting with a possible bid for speaker as well, also taking a more measured approach on how he would deal with ukraine, saying he would review it first before going ahead. jordan's comments undoubtedly -- already i'm hearing concerns from the holloways from members, people who support ukraine aid, worried that if he becomes speaker, that could cut off the billions of dollars going to ukraine. he didn't go as far as to say he wouldn't allow any dollar to go to ukraine, but his comments certainly are a warning sign. there's a long way to go before any of these men could be elected speaker. they have to get nominated by the conference next week on a majority vote. then a majority of the full house, 218 members, need to vote to elect the speaker. if only five republicans break ranks, that could be enough to undercut it. just a lot of questions in this leadership vacuum as republicans grapple with what's next. >> one key question over the snowfallout from what we saw yesterday, and

. >> dana: kevin hern from home is not far behind. >> bill: they take a vote and those with the leastunt is out. >> that's like agetha christie behind closed doors. >> dana: this is not how the gop race works. >> bill: i would agree. if we get a winner from behind closed doors and they'd take it to the house and could happen this afternoon. >> dana: let's see and covering it all day. >> dana: israeli military firing into gaza and hitting hamas fighters as the war drags on. terror group releasing two more hostages yesterday and israel launches major ground a fencive, weighing that decision still. lest go to trey yingst live in israel on the front lines. reporter: dana, good morning. we have breaking news and learning from the israeli military at this hour that they've taken out three deputy commanders of hamas inside the gaza strip using precision strikes. this is significant because it's yet another indication the israelis are going for the top of hamas leadership ahead of what is expected to be a ground operation into the strip. you mentioned overnight 400 air strikes targeting both

one person that has been mentioned is kevin from oklahoma. herne is kevin from oklahoma. f the republican group and he is more of a business leader. so he offers something that is very different that what scalise and jordan offer, and we may find, when we eventually get to a nomination, we may find five or six names thrown into the hat. it is a very tricky scenario because we saw how difficult it was to get kevin mccarthy in this role initially. so many votes and a bit of an impasse for several days in congress. will one of these contenders be able to bring together the republican party, which is what is really required here?- is really required here? well, there is getting _ is really required here? well, there is getting a _ is really required here? well, there is getting a majority - is really required here? well, | there is getting a majority and there is getting a majority and there is getting a majority and there is bringing together of there is bringing together of the party. so somebody will eventually get a majority. the question is, for those individuals in the r

he's signalled to his allies he could be open to the possibility of running and, kevin hern, a memberf the republican study committee, the largest conservative group in the house. he has been talking to colleagues as well. others could emerge, patrick mchenry, the interim speaker, a possible candidate as well. i may have to figure out the other candidates down the line. something that the current republican whip could potentially go for. the big question is who could get 218 votes in the house. that will all take place next week. first, the house republican conference will nominate someone to be the next speaker. that requires only half of the house republican conference, but then someone needs to be elected speaker, and that requires half of the whole house, 218 members, and with republicans -- that means that their person will face the same issue that kevin mccarthy did, can only afford to lose four republican votes on any party line measure which means the new speaker candidate, kw whoever that person may be, will have to assure that the hard liners are appeased and moderate member

there's kevin hern, head of the republican study committee, another very large conservative caucus inouse, but al awl of these members are going to have to work it get 217 votes on the house floor if they become the nominee, and right now, there's an overwhelming feeling of exhaustion, but some members say that is going to drive them to try to unify hopefully by this week. let's take a listen.he largest folks, at least, recognizing that we have to get someone across the goal line, and i do think there's an appetite for a compromise candidate at this point. i think there's, maybe it's not my guy that got into the speakership, but filling the position is a priority. >> i have nothing against the other people. >> it used to be only kevin. >> kevin is now endorsed publicly now, and so, you know f he comes back on the ballot, i'll still be with kevin, but he's not going to be on the ballot, so i need to, you know, back the nominee. >> reporter: so that last member there was someone who was only backing kevin mccarthy before, now signaling that he would be willing to back another candidate,