they have fewer stores than macy's with this whole macy's idea, how do you spin off an idea you mighte business how many stores do they have they must have 600, 700 stores the distribution for the ecommerce business is the stores people go pick them up at the stores they send them out from the stores if you sever that link, what do you have you have got to build up another distribution chain for a different company. i don't see how it particularly makes sense. at least with the other one, some of the other ones out there with sachs, you have fewer stores they had like gilt, right, courtney, that gilt, that hoity-toity that they've got >> i totally agree, bob. i'm curious to hear your tack, courtney >> i have spent a lot of the day talking to people on the phone and i'm starting to understand the argument for separating the businesses i started out in bob's camp, and i'm not saying bob doesn't have a good argument, but i do think it is interesting if you think about as an investor that once a high-growth company, you are going to look at some of the online-only stores if you invest in

here's the details. >> reporter: broadway and 34th street, home to harold square, macy's.lboard and thousands of people walking by every day. ♪ even more company on thanksgiving, millions check out the sign during the parade. but the billboard is now caught in a legal back and forth with amazon. >> that's pretty amazing, isn't it? that it's gotten so big that it's going to be bad to see that leave. >> reporter: you see, macy's doesn't own the billboard. they lease it and the lease expired in august. according to the lawsuit, the landlord, talked to amazon about replacing the space. >> one can only imagine, if you're amazon, how much of an appetite there would be to have this massive billboard space on top of your brick and mortar retail rival store. >> reporter: but macy's, saying in a statement, we expect to realize the benefits of these rights and have asked the court to protect them. >> i do think this area, harold square, as macy's, right? >> reporter: and meanwhile, remains a destination. >> it's iconic to go to empire state and i'm going to take them to lunch. but th

macy's has real estate we have quantified that at $2 billion.eve this e-comm without this happening. >> what's puzzling to me is you have part of the business, e-commercewhich is worth more and the bricks and mortar which is like a shrinking iceberg without any e-commerce unit. you have two moving parts and i don't understand how in the end value is much more than now? are markets that inefficient that we are not recognizing the extreme valuation gap between the bricks and mortar and e-commerce >> it's an attractive idea the market is skeptical. the multiple of macy's being 7 to 8 times de is low so it is tbd in terms of conviction and what the company can do our overall called for digitization and calling as an e-commerce retailer. part is time horizon, part is execution and part is understanding what kind of decisions you would have to make which would be quite complex in splitting businesses the future of retail in our opinion is physical versus digital. can you separate them? >> thank you, oliver tim, i will go to you. it seems like an extre

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>>> welcome back taking aim at macy an investor urging them to spin off, to make them double macy's playbookhave seen this before with sach's karen, what do you think >> i think janus is a great investor they have a number of activist investment i don't see them having owned any stock in june. they could have bought positions since then if you do use sach's which has a value about 2.24 times revenue when they did that deal which is not a public deal. i am not sure the split of macy's online versus instore it is not a crazy multiple i always wonder when you do the e-commerce split how do you allocate a sale that starts in a store where they say we don't have it in the store but we can send it to you. whether it was mon adveetizing. i am surprised the stock didn't react more >> that's a good point so many e-commerce success stories involve multichannel which is that the sale originates online or in store and you can return it any way you want to. >> it sounds alchemy to me at the end i am certain -- if they are shareholders, to karen's point -- is to make the stock go higher. the stock didn't

>> macy's has trimmed a lot. as you know. they are down into the 600-store range. i remember when they were way up at 850 on the other hand, kohl's hasn't trimmed. they are still up over 1,100 stores i think we will continue to see store trim asking down sizing. everybody has too many stores and too much square footage. in some cases you can put other stuff inside your store and fill your store with other things kohl's just put sephora in there. they are learning thousand do that it also makes the scores more interesting to the consumer. that's another thing they have done right in terms of macy's and kohl's. >> people are scratching their head about mays audio's potential spinout of e-commerce business do you think it makes strategic sense? >> no. but sometimes it is a good financial decision i didn't think it was a good idea to spin out sak's on line business do i think it is good for the fundamental business no because i think the on line business and the in store businesses support each other. macy's in particular have been very good at getting the surrounding

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all of its competitors are doing well you don't go department stores macy's is up 132%. that was taken out with the pandemic and thought not to survive. people are saying, all right, are they going to survive, be just as good i don't know i would be a seller of macy's with both hands. urban outfitters, that's a name no one mentioned that looks to me like it will break out. the last thing is that people have been hunkered down for two years. they haven't been spending they have a ton of moneyto deploy on their families i believe the consumer will be strong straight through next year forget about christmas, straight through next year. >> i think the aspect of luxury that jeff mentioned, if you want to take a look at luxury, i think you would have to take a hard look where they are getting their sales because a lot of european luxuries have gotten hit because of evergrande and china as well as spiking prices. >> it is not necessarily a one size fits all story relative to the consumer you have to understand where consumers are coming from. people being willing to spend here

>> i think macy's and saks are two things and stripping macy's of the e-commerce business it is worthd mortar how is that a growing concern without the e-commerce business if you are left with the shares without the e-commerce business how do you feel about that i'm not so sure. it remind me ofsears talking about the real estate value worth more than the decht store chain itself and didn't pan out well maybe this is different. i'm not sure i'm sold. >> sounds like you're not a fan if you compare it to sears we have two minutes left to go what are you seeing in the market internals >> very mixed. a negative slant for volume mix and more lows on the nasdaq than new highs. basically even slightly more declining volume i would say a neutral set-up with tech stock of the overall s&p 500. take a look at home builders and autos. month to date. upbeat story there well outperforming in october. we got that survey number today for supporting the home builder move there the vix giving way around 16. basically saying the market's on much more stable footing with this nice big peak from september,

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. >>> macy's topping the tape today and soaring. 17.5%.ago activist investor took a stake in macy's urging it to spin off the e-commerce unit. the unit of sacks is preparing for an ipo roughly triple pegged this year. i don't know how you figure out a valuation of a company of a unit that is so tightly connected to the parent company. >> yeah, i don't know how you figure out where it happens to sales that are done in the store and then go online for returns or vice versa. i am not, i guess, i can us a the sachs model. macy's has dealt i wonder where that goes i think it stays with the sort of old line company. all of that having been said, what a year for macy's i don't own it, but clearly -- maybe jana knew that sachs was considering this ipo good for them. >> 17.5% today i mean, it's gone up at least a few times on the same news day what do you do with the stock? do you hold it >> well, i mean, look again at the 15% short interest and imagine what you're feeling now if you are short, as we talked about earlier in the show. i just think t

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in a lawsuit against the owner of the sign, macy's says the damages to macy's customer goodwill imagenline retailer, especially amazon, advertise on the billboard are impossible to calculate. kurt the cyberguy joins us now live from that billboard outside macy's in harold square. great to see you, kurt. iconic billboard but it's not owned by macy's. they use it to advertise. now it looks like they have some competition? >> for every 60 years, pete. good morning to you. standing right here where, you know, thanksgiving morning we turn on the tv and this is where that iconic macy's day thanksgiving parade starts off and that's the sign in question. a 2200 square foot sign for 60 years turned on our tvs and walked into this iconic area right smack in front of the macy's department store for 60 years. a big tech retailer we know wants to unseat macy's from their own name in front of the store. also potentially changing an iconic american tradition for the hollywood. turning on the tv and seeing, i don't know, a floating blimp of mark zuckerberg's head going through the streets of manhatta

let's get to leslie picker who has a news alert on macy's. >> i want to show you, shares of macy's now up almost 4% on this "wall street journal" report about an ongoing activist situations regarding johna partners they report the company -- firm took a stake in macys and are urging the spin-off offis e-commerce business. i confirmed with one source familiar with the situation that that is true it was nope last week that johna at a conference in new york gave a presentation about how it believes how the company could gain value from spinning to have e-commerce unit. however, through this article i can confirm that that e-commerce business has drawn attention from potential suitors as an acquisition. it's what happened with sacks if i havate avenue. essentially the way this works, the back end of the e-commerce business will be run by a different company, whoever purchases it for the consumer it is the same. shares of macy's up almost 4% on this report today about activist johna partners taking a stake as well as sending a letter to the company yesterday. >> leslie picker reporting. >>>

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there's one remaining one called the webster apartments which was built in the 1930s for employees of macy's, by one of the founders of macy's, and you can still get a room there as a woman, and it's still relatively affordable and quite [inaudible], i have to say, in terms of the rules, regulations, which of course is not that appealing to many young women today. >> you alluded to this a moment ago, and i'm curious about how you -- what about locating your sources and speaking with them, what did that feel like? what was that experience like? >> it was actually a wonderful experience once i located them. it was an experience of meeting women in their 80s and 90s who were incredibly funny, with remarkable memories, better than i've ever had, and also storytellers. when they were at the barbizon, this was a moment in their lives where precisely as we have talked about, this short little window of real independence and excitement and singledom, and so they recalled it very very well. i have to say that was probably my greatest delight. in terms of locating the sources, really the connection be

i send them to compare the cosmetics department at macy's, pennies and nordstrom.now that those are critically important. most customers never look at them. it is very subtle. the powers of observation, 45 countriesdi, 2 million digital pictures i've taken, i have three video channels all over the world. i am always just watching. said there and people watch. how are they walking? how fast are they walking? how do they treat their kids. as a retailer, applying social soscience. i studied under a couple of other great economics people at the university of chicago. i love sociology. even more important in financing and marketing. sometimes it is even more rare. you are applying geography. youu are applying sociology, anthropology, economics and to really grasp the world and understand the human aspect of the world which is an important aspect. if you go into any reasonably well-run supermarket, you should be able to come out of there and say the ethnicity of the customers, the average family size, the incomes, just the way a good grocery store is merchandised, especi

plus, 15% off fragrances, skincare, makeup and more... now at macy's.k after six delays. "no time to die" opened internationally on friday, taking in a pandemic box office record of nearly $120 million. so all week, we're going to count down to friday's u.s. premiere with the movie stars, and we're starting with none other than that man right there, rami malek, live in times square. that's coming up in our next hour. >> always great to have him here. >> mm-hmm. >>> now we're going to get to my exclusive interview with one of the ultimate trump insiders, stephanie grisham. she's out with a scathing new book, "i'll take your questions now: what i saw at the trump white house." she'll join us live in a moment after this report from juju chang. >> reporter: stephanie grisham was a close confidant for six years from campaign wrangler to white house press secretary, and melania's chief of staff, at times bringing her disturbing news. >> you were the one who had to tell melania about the former porn star stormy daniels' lawsuit. what was that moment like? >> t

plus, 15% off fragrances, skincare, makeup and more... now at macy's. >> 9.15 at the time right now. and before you head out the door. we want to take a look at the weather and it's october first. so like i'm wearing giants orange pumpkin orange. i don't know what else orange sunshine sunshine orange. i guess that would be fall for october. first and october. i think it is very fitting for the day all the way. as of yes, we're looking at giants game day. a nice sunshiny day. of course, the first day of october. so maybe you're getting into the fall spirit. >> mother nature is not really helping, though, because there's nothing fall feeling about it. it feels like the middle of summer. still san jose. looking beautiful in crystal clear little bit of haze out there on the horizon. but sunshine is going to be in no shortage today. whether you're inland or all the way out towards the coastline. you can see coastal areas are nice and clear. that's the way they're going to stay bayside areas much the same as we work our way through the weekend. it's only going to get hotter. this high-pres

think you need to have a five-minute high flier segment on your show every day my stock for today is macy'ss very much but it's not a high flier, jeff is doing a very good job, actually a phenomenal job. if we get anywhere near the immunization we should have, that stock should go to 30 i just feel it's had a nice move but it's not over. how about we go to rich in new jersey rich >> caller: how are you doing, jim? first time caller. i'm interested in noodle company. >> no. i know it's been around, maybe it's making a comeback, but it's been two steps forward, two steps back i'm not going there. daniel in new york daniel >> caller: booyah, jim, how are you? >> good, how are you >> caller: i'm doing great my question is chewy >> it's fallen out of favor when people realized amazon won't let them do anymore. it's a good stock. i'm not going to back away from chewy. let's go to mike in new york >> caller: booyah. evs and big auto companies, we're going to need a lot more charging stations on the road. >> yes, we are >> caller: a company called charge point holding >> i know it, it's out of favo

let's create your trademark style at macy's vip sale with an extra 30% off top designers.ff fragrances, skincare, makeup and more... now at macy's. ♪ skincare, mak♪up and more... ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> the bay area's local news station. you now with breaking news. >> good morning and happy friday. i'm darya folsom radar be in for james fletcher. and we've got some breaking news that we are following on the scene of a major water main break. take a peek. this is an alamo. it's causing a big mess. yeah. it's a lot of water out there at kron. 4 yulia sevices been out there on scene as water continues. >> to pour out and a lot of people you could look at that. you only in the middle of a drought. it's hard to see this. i'm. >> i know it. it looks quite insane. i got it looks. but when especially have that car right behind the water. you could really see the how high the waters just gushing out from out of that payment right there. you can even see help broken up. it says he's of the christ best buy. you can see how broken up the street when the water just first through, it just came gushi

at macy's to the list of retailers closing on thanksgiving.ond straight year it has closed on the holiday. stores will be back open the next day for black friday shopping, even though black friday deals starting next week. the macy's san francisco union bay square store, visits will be socially distance and reservations will be required. we will not be the same, but better than it was before. larry: it's great to see the pendulum has swung. for while all the retail stores were opening for thanksgiving and now at least the workers get to celebrate at home with their families. kristen: a couple from virginia has been sentenced to a combined 20 years in prison for a 31 million-dollar counterfeit coupon scheme. the fbi found thousands of counterfeit coupons and designs for more than 13,000 products in the couple's home. they say they created fake coupons and sold them to people on social media. spencer: i there is nothing fake or phony about the weather coming our way. mostly cloudy overnight with a few isolated showers but generally dry condition

revolve is so much cooler than macy's. >> very cool retailer, another relove the music festival it's, yes. >> what about target >> target is a great story in our view because it's very diversified. having a portfolio 20% food, 15% apparel. moment, electronics, beauty helps. the big story is digital a tremendous digital business that's been growing fast and what's been beneficial throughout the crisis is curbside pickup and drive-up that's a key aspect helping to fuel digital and reinventing the store. target stores help fulfill about 95%. valuation level also 18 times pe. walmart at 21 times. it positions target well for the long term. we like target and walmart and the scale they have in this environment. >> we were just talking about with mike tjx is acting weak who's vulnerable and not vulnerable to the inventory shortages as a result of the supply chain we saw it hurt as big and popular as nike in the last earnings quarter. >> more generally apparel and footwear are category which is have higher risk and a lot of fashion apparel is like produce. it expires the other issue is sout