luke messer is a republican from indiana and congressman chaka fattah is a democrat.et's start with speaker john boehner. they put on a show after a continuing resolution that would kill obama care in its crib. it's a bill they know has no chance of becoming law and every chance of shutting down the u.s. government. >> the american people don't want the government shut down. and they don't want obama care. the house has listened to the american people. now it's time for the united states senate to listen to them as well. thank you. >> there's also high drama on the house floor as democrats pleaded with republicans to abandon their kamikaze mission, they call it, to defund the affordable care act. >> what is brought to the floor today is without a doubt -- without a doubt a measure designed to shut down government. it could have no other intent. its purpose is clear. >> it is a blatant act of hostage taking. the republican cr also lays the groundwork for a default on our debt. an unthinkable act. >> and just hours later president obama himself delivered a fiery campaig

i want to start with you, congressman messer, because essentially we're seeing from the house to thee and we expect it comes right back to the house, and we believe that the version that comes back to the house will not be obama care piece in it that you wanted, so what happens from there? >> well, listen. i think there's two things that you said in the introduction there that i would take a little bit of issue with. one is that the republican party is divided. we had over 230 votes for the resolution yesterday and 2 democrat votes. and secondly, we are not trying to shut down government. i mean, there is a third way here and that is for the president to compromise on his health care law. he's already signed seven bills that change obama care. he's delayed the employer mandate in recent months and reports that the exchanges aren't ready and if the president comes to the table, there's an opportunity to get this done. >> congressman, i feel like i actually think on the house side you're very much -- you're very much all on the same page. i think that where there does seem to be some d

congressman messer, let me start with you. you support, you're republican, i should reiterate here, you support the president's proposal to strike on syria. what convinced you? >> listen, i'm no fan of this president. i'm certainly no fan of this president's foreign policy. i think his mismanagement in the region has compounded our problems there. but i believe that we can't stop being america just because we have an ineffective commander in chief and when you look at the facts and the evidence here, there are several things that are clear. it is clear that assad gassed his own people. it's clear that that gas was used to murder hundreds of innocent women and children. it's clear that our allies in the region like israel are asking us to intervene and it's clear that evil dictators in places like iran and north korea are watching and will be emboldened if we don't act. i think under those situations -- under those circumstances, we must act. and if i had to vote today, i would vote yes. >> congressman grayson, you also have be

congressman messer, let me start with you. you support, you're republican, i should reiterate here, you support the president's proposal to strike on syria. what convinced you? >> listen, i'm no fan of this president. i'm certainly no fan of this president's foreign policy. i think his mismanagement in the region has compounded our problems there. but i believe that we can't stop being america just because we have an ineffective commander in chief and when you look at the facts and the evidence here, there are several things that are clear. it is clear that assad gassed his own people. it's clear that that gas was used to murder hundreds of innocent women and children. it's clear that our allies in the region like israel are asking us to intervene and it's clear that evil dictators in places like iran and north korea are watching and will be emboldened if we don't act. i think under those situations -- under those circumstances, we must act. and if i had to vote today, i would vote yes. >> congressman grayson, you also have be

>> congressman messer. >> i think it's important that you pay your bills.hat i reject is just the premise of the last two minutes, chris. listen, we passed a bill today that will fund government and would protect the american people from obama care. the people that are talking about shutting down president are you, the president and nancy pelosi. >> let's get the press in here. the government has to pay its bills. you have a continuing resolution because you haven't passed the appropriations because among other reasons, ted cruz insisted that the two budget committees never meet in conference this year. there never was a chance to pass bills or resolutions. that's a fact on the record, sir. that's not an argument. my question is list all the programs you've seen -- that you've tried to kill on a continuing resolution on budget deadline. the end of the year deadline. give me the other ones besides obama care congress has ever tried to kill using the continuing resolution. just list them for me. >> listen, the -- owe. >> no. listen to me. what time in the his

messer. but let me ask you this.f you look back at the history and we all know the history, social security passed under roosevelt. it was opposed by the republican party. and since then the republican party has accepted the social contract including for retirees. and medicare was fought over and republicans opposed that. now they know one of the most popular programs ever created is medicare. is it your biggest fear that down the road once people get used to the affordable care act they're going to like it. isn't that your biggest fear? because if they're not going to like it, you guys win the argument. but if they like it, you lose again. three strikes, you're out. social security, medicare, and health care. you've been wrong three times in a row. your thoughts. >> i'm not aware of any part with social security and medicare where you had these transition problems you've had with obama care. contrary to the president's promises, rates are going up. contrary to the president's promises, folks are losing the insurance

joining us now is republican congressman luke messer of indiana. he's a member of the budget committee. congressman, thanks for being here. you know, you've seen the math, you've done the math and all the math shows here that it's basically dead on arrival in the senate. all the math also showing you and others who want to defund and put that language into the bill here will be at the cause of the failure of this bill moving forward. this doesn't help you. i mean what do you get out of it? >> listen, i heard a lot of talk out of the other luke about a government shutdown. nobody wants a government shutdown. the bill weir about to pass today is a bill that will keep government open and protect the american people from obama care. obama care is not popular. and the president frankly is losing support within his own party. unions are now speaking out against the need for major changes. we believe we have an opportunity here to both fund government and protect the american people from obama care. >> congressman, you were also say defund the government

. >> good afternoon, my name is alissa messer and i'm president of aft 2121 which represents the state college of san francisco, i'm also vice-president of political affairs for the san francisco labor college, at city college of san francisco, we have about 1600 faculty these days and about half of those are part time, half of those have access through city college of san francisco to benefit, others access healthy san francisco now because they don't make enough and there are some of those who would fall through the cracks if we didn't have healthy san francisco. one of the unintended consequences of the aca is the fact that employers are going to appear to be driving down hours for many workers so that they don't need to provide insurance and that's something that is happening all over the country to part time adjunct contingent faculty members all over the country. there are teachers, professors who are not getting the same number of classes or the same number of hours. we're already seeing health care access diminished as city college of san francisco for our part time faculty and

first, i want to put a card up forward that's alyssa messer with aft 21, 21 and might need a little extra time to present that. we need help getting that set up as well. and then what is the length of time for -- two minutes per person. okay. tell us when you're ready. >> so, sfgov-tv, can we have the -- thank you. >>> [speaker not understood] aft 21 21, we represent the counselors, librarians and instructors of the college. and i want to thank the supervisors today for providing us this space and for your concern and your curiosity and especially for your vigilance. it's very important and we all thank you. i'll try to move quickly. i have a very brief presentation. in keeping with supervisor campos' concern about what it is we stand to lose, that's something we've really been looking at and thinking about. so, hopefully i can make this work. city college is -- and i don't need to tell you this, but sometimes we need to step back and just see it again -- an extremely valuable publicly owned resource that is in imminent danger at the moment. we are widely supported by the electorate, and

joining me from the other side of the aisle, republican congressman messer.s the big question. if the vote was held today, would you approve air strikes against syria? >> i'm about to go into a classified briefing within an hour and i want to withhold information until i get additional information. i would say based on facts as i know them, i could support an attack on syria. murdering more than 1,000 people is terrible. i think the president has to continue to make the case. it's not enough to just call a press conference at the rose garden and run off to a golf match and dump it in the lap of congress. i believe we ought to be back here debating this issue now. i think the time that we take in the next few days is time that the president needs to take to sell the american people. >> okay. so you have about 45 minutes until you have that classified meeting. you heard charlie rangel that sound bite from my show an hour ago in which he said he has yet to hear anything that makes it a connection between what's happening in syria and how this is affecting the am

he's a republican congressman, his name is luke messer and he's nomindiana.morning, sir. >> good morning. >> what are you hearing from your constituents? >> i'm hearing a lot of concern. what i'm hearing from my constituents is the same thing that i believe. i'm no fan of this president's foreign policy, but the bottom line to me after seeing the facts and the evidence is this. we don't have the luxury of taking a 3 1/2 year break on being america just because we have a commander in chief. when you look at the facts and evidence presented, it is clear that a strong, targeted military action is warranted. and that's how i intend to vote. >> so, i know you hold town halls and i know that you held a town hall, but this was before the president spoke out about syria. will you hold a town hall in the next few days? >> i think it's important that we continue to receive impact or to receive information and feedback from our constituents. i actually sent out an e-mail survey yesterday. i participated in multiple town halls through august that included conversations a

. >> the four horsemen of the apocalypses as you know are messers boehner, cantor and cruz., what does it profit these individuals to so injury and jeopardize the nation for the sake of a political play that will never, ever be realized, because the affordable care act is not, under this president's tenure, going anywhere? >> well, martin, you're right. this is really an ego trip. this is a celebrity trip for a lot of these folks who go around to speak to certain very radical and extreme audiences, tell those audiences what they want to hear, whip up a lot of, you know, energy on the far right, and then try and impose that will on the entire country. and what you're seeing here in the house of representatives is that speaker boehner is no longer in control of the house. he's not even in control of his own party. he is essentially handing the keys over to the tea party wing. and what you have as a result is a very small subsection of the country, essentially trying to call the shots and put the whole country at risk. so this is really a moment for americans of all political s

luke messer of indiana. >> thank you, mr. chairman. someone has to go last and today that is me. i certainly thank my colleagues for sitting on the front row with me and thank you for the chairman to calling us back for what i think is very important work. thank you for your service and stamina today. we are entering almost the fourth hour of this hearing. i appreciate and respect the president's decision to bring this matter of authorization before congress. i was one of a broad group of 150 who signed onto a letter who requested that. i appreciate the president heating that request and ii& understand the legal arguments about whether or not it was necessary for him to do that. i would associate myself with congressman fairey's comments that it is now been made and the president has brought this before congress. i believe it is very important that the president abide by that vote. i will not revisit all of the other questions that others have asked today. i make that comment does someone who, if i had to vote today on whether or not to authorize force against syria under the cir

messer: mr. speaker, i rise to honor the heroic efforts of a great hoosier, sergeant sammy l. davis of the united states army. sergeant davis, then private first class davis, distinguished himself while serving at a remote support base in vietnam. november 18, 1967, sergeant davis' support base came under enemy mortar attack. and he was also threatened with a ground assault from across the river. detecting a nearby enemy position, sergeant davis seized a machine gun and provided cover for his gun crew. . but the enemy managed a direct hit. ignoring warnings to seek cover, sergeant davis returned to the howitzer which was burning furiously. though he was painfully injured by enemy mortar, davis continued fire, disregarding his injuries and inability to swim, he crossed the river on an air mattress where he aided in returning three soldiers to the support base, refusing medical attention for his own wounds, he joined another gun crew, firing at the enemy until they fled. i am proud to honor and remember the extraordinary heroism of sergeant sammy l. davis. thank you. yield back.

luke messer of indiana. you, mr. chairman. someone has to go last and today that is me. thank my colleagues for sitting on the front row with me and thank you for the chairman to calling us back for what i think is very important work. thank you for your service and stamina today. we are entering almost the fourth hour of this hearing. i appreciate and respect the president's decision to bring this matter of authorization before congress. ofas one of a broad group 150 who signed onto a letter who requested that. the president heating that request and i understand the legal arguments about whether or not it was necessary for him to do that. i would associate myself with congressman fairey's comments that it is now been made and the brought this before congress. i believe it is very important that the president abide by that vote. i will not revisit all of the other questions that others have asked today. make that comment does someone who, if i had to vote today on whether or not to authorize force against syria under the circumstances presented before me, i would vote ye

messer: americans shouldn't have to suffer through this failed experiment any longer or have government operations held hostage by those unwilling to acknowledge that obamacare is not working. let's hope the president and his senate allies agree. thank you, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from california seek recognition? >> to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california is recognized for one minute. >> mr. speaker, house republicans are doubling down on the bad idea. mr. miller: these food stamp cuts will not only increase the incidents of hunger but the result in the loss of thousands of jobs throughout the food industry alone. because when poor families, children and the disabled andlederly cannot afford food, they simply must go without. this is not economic stimulus. this is a national outrage. it's outrageous that 26 anonymous individuals receive over $1 million each in farm subsidies but $1.40 per meal for a hungry child is considered government waste. it's o