6, president trump instructed his chief of staff, mark meadows, to contact both ger stone and michael flynn regarding what would play out the next day. this hutchison, is it your understanding that president trump asked mark middle speak with roger stone and general flynn january 5? ms. hutchinson: that is my understanding. i am under the impression that mr. meadows completed both called to them on the evening of the fifth. rep. cney: do you know what they talked about that evening? ms. hutchinson: not sure. rep. cheney: -- war room at the willard hotel? ms. hutchinson: i was aware of that. rep. cheney: do you know mr. meadows ever intended to go to the hotel on that night? ms. hutchinson: he had a conversation with me where he wanted to work with the secret service -- with mr. giuliani in the associates in the war room. rep. cheney: what was your view on that on whether mr. meadows should go or not? . hutchinson: i made it clear to him that i don't thk it was a smart idea for himo go to the hotel. i was unsure on everything that wagoing on their although i knew enough that -- on everything

talk -- general michael flynn has also taken the bit before this committe mr. stone previously had been convicted of other federal clients --rimes related to januy 6. general flynn h pleaded guilty to a federal charge also related to january 6. president trump writing general flynn weeks after the presidential election and on julyf 2020, he commuted the sentence roger sne was to serve. the night before january 6, president truminstructed his chief of staff, mark meadows, to contact both roger stone and michael flynn regding what would play out the next day. this hutchison, is it your understanding that president trump asked mark middle speak with roger stone and general flynjanuary 5? ms. tchinson: that is my understanding. i am under the impression that mr. meadows completed both called to them on the evening of the fift rep. cheney: do you know what they talked about that evening? ms. hutchinson:ot sure. rep. cheney: -- war room at the willard hotel? ms. hutchinson: i was aware of that. rep. cheney: do you know mr. meadows ever intended to go to the hotel on

interested to know what would happen on january 6 and he asked mark med des to call his close allies michael flynn and roger stone to see what they knew. both flynn and stone testified before the committee. here is a look at part of flynn's deposition. >> general flynn, do you believe the violence on january 6 was justified? >> can i get a clarification? is that horl qumoral question o deeper question? >> i'm asking both. do you believe the violence on january 6 was justified morally? >> i take the fifth. >> do you believe the violence on january 6 was justified legally? >> no. >> do you believe in the peaceful transition of power in the united states of america? >> the fifth. >> most legal experts say the simple answer to all those questions is no, but michael flynn wasn't the only one doing trump's bidding. cassidy hutchinson revealed how much mark meadows knew about trump's actions. brian todd reports. >> reporter: cassidy hutchinson's testimony before the january 6 committee painting then chief of staff mark meadows as donald trump's enabler. at one point describing concern inside the white ho

testimony from michael flynn, one of trump's former national security advisers.ly invoked the fifth amendment, his right to self-incrimination when asked about january 6th and the peaceful transfer of power. listen. >> do you believe the violence on january 6th was justified normally? >> take the fifth. >> do you believe the violence on january 6th was justified legally? >> fifth. >> general flynn, do you believe in the peaceful transition of power in the united states of america? >> the fifth. >> let's discuss now, cnn national security analyst james clapper, the former director of national intelligence. director, thank you. i appreciate you joining us. i mean this is coming from someone who served in the military for more than 30 years. he was trump's first national security advisor. he swore an oath to the constitution. he couldn't say he believes in a peaceful transfer of power? >> you know, don, it's -- under normal times, under normal circumstances this would be a pretty stunning thing for an officer that achieved a rank of lieutenant general, served in the

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that includes michael flynn, mark meadows and pat cipallone, who have a duty to the american people to explain all these things they said in the presence of cassidy hutchinson. >> it really does speak to the twisted nature of his loyalty, loyalty that doesn't run to doing what's right, loyalty that doesn't run to the oath that he once took, doesn't run even to the constitution of the united states or to this country. it runs to a want to be tyrant. it is really extraordinary. i agree completely with barbara. we never want to criticize someone for exercising their constitutional rights. but isn't it fascinating that it was donald trump who attacked hillary clinton and her people by saying only the mob takes the fifth. it was general flynn himself who attacked hillary clinton's i.t. worker for taking the fifth. and here he is taking the fifth when asked whether he believes in a peaceful transfer of power in the united states government. >> i can't wait to find out. the committee really left us hanging when they read these text messages or messages that were sent to people about to be dep

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on december 18th 2020, a group including general michael flynn, city pow, rudy giuliani and others visited the white house. they stayed late into the evening. we know that the group discussed a number of dramatic steps, including having the military seize voting machines and potentially rerun elections. you will also hear the president trump met with that group alone for a period of time. the 4 white house lawyers and other staff discovered the group was there and rushed to intervene. a little more than an hour after ms pao mister giuliani, general flynn and the others finally left the white house. president trump cent the tweet on the screen now. telling people to come to washington on january 6. be there. he instructed them. we'll be wild. as you will see. this was a pivotal moment. this tweet initiated a chain of events. the tweet led to the planning for what occurred on january 6th, including by the proud boys who ultimately led the invasion of the capitol and the violence on that day. the indictment of a group of proud boys alleges that they planned, quote to oppose by force the autho

it is a remarkable piece of video of michael flynn. taking the fifth. to the most unimaginable questions, let's watch. >> general flynn, do you believe the violence on january 6th was justified? >> [inaudible] all right i'm back. >> congresswoman cheney, could you repeat the question please? >> yes, general flynn, do you believe the violence on january 6th was a justified? >> can i get a clarification? is that a legal question? >> i'm asking both. >> i said [inaudible] -- >> do you believe the violence on january 6th was justified morally? >> take the fifth. >> you believe the violence on january 6th was justified legally? >> fifth. >> general flynn, do you believe the peaceful transition of power in the united states of america? >> the fifth. the fifth (woman) oh. oh! hi there. you're jonathan, right? the 995 plan! yes, from colonial penn. your 995 plan fits my budget just right. excuse me? aren't you jonathan from tv, that 995 plan? yes, from colonial penn. i love your lifetime rate lock. that's what sold me. she thinks you're jonathan, with the 995 pl

the committee played testimony of former three star general michael flynn. trumps first national security adviser. being asked when whether he believed in the peaceful transfer of power. mr. flynn interestingly took the fifth. the hearing ended with vice chair describing potential instances of alleged witness tampering. better known in certain part of south philly as friendly advice. >> our committee commonly asks witnesses connected to mr. trump's administration or campaign, whether they have been contact td by any of their former colleagues or anyone else who attempted to influence or impact their testimony. without identifying any of the individuals involved, let me show you a couple of samples of answers we received to this question. first, here's how one witness described phone calls from people interested in that witnesses testimony. quote, what they said to me is as long as i continue to to be a team player, they know i'm on the right team. i'm doing the right thing. i'm protecting who i need to protect. you know i'll continue to stay in good graces i

on december 18th, 2020, a group including general michael flynn, sydney pal, rudy giuliani and others visited the white house. they stayed late in the evening. we know that the group discussed a number of dramatic steps including having the military seas voting machines and potentially re run elections. you will also hear the president trump met with that group alone for a period of time before whitehouse lawyers and other staff discovered the group was there and rushed to intervene. a little more than an hour after miss pal, mr. juliani, general flynn and the others. finally left the white house president trump sent the tweet on the screen. now telling people to come to washington on january 6. be there, he instructed them. will be wild. as you will see, this was a pivotal moment. this tweet initiated a chain of events. the tweet led to the planning for what occurred on january 6th, including by the proud boys who ultimately led the invasion of the capital and the violence on that day. the indictment of a group of proud boys alleges, as they planned, quote, to oppose by force the aut

it is a remarkable piece of video of michael flynn. taking the fifth. to the most unimaginable questions, let's watch. >> general flynn, do you believe the violence on january 6th was justified? >> [inaudible] all right i'm back. >> congresswoman cheney, could you repeat the question please? >> yes, general flynn, do you believe the violence on january 6th was a justified? >> can i get a clarification? is that a legal question? >> i'm asking both. >> i said [inaudible] -- >> do you believe the violence on january 6th was justified morally? >> take the fifth. >> you believe the violence on january 6th was justified legally? >> fifth. >> general flynn, do you believe the peaceful transition of power in the united states of america? >> the fifth. the fifth ♪ i want to rock and roll all night ♪ ♪ and party every day. ♪ ♪ i want to rock and roll all night ♪ applebee's late night. because half off is just more fun. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. new poligrip power hold and seal. clinically proven to give strongest hold, plus seals out 5x more food

we know that he said after meeting with people like michael flynn who was saying seize the voting machines met with people like roger stop. he's meeting with the sidney powells of the world, he met with sean hannity saying don't let him be alone and within hours tweet come to the capitol, it's going to be wild and then he tweets that over and over and over again. january 6th was not at thing most people know b.most americans don't know all the civics that january 6th is significant. he made it significant. draws the crowd there and then you see down the street, those poem are taking your right. let's march over there. i'll walk with you and the proud boys and oath keepers were already there. does that not suggest to you that donald trump must have known that the proud boys and oath keepers would be his enforcers in staying in power. >> joy, this was a plot. this was a plan, a scheme. this was not a riot or a crowd that got overenthusiastic and sort of spun out of control, and i can't wait to see more information in the coming public hearings about the meeting in the oval office between tru

michael flynn lost a legal challenge one day after filing it and then pled the fifth.s of congress, gop leader kevin mccarthy who is set ago tough precedent if he is ever speaker to the congressman linked to white house efforts to overturn the election and the stop the steal rally, including jim jordan, andy biggs, paul gosar, mo brooks and scott perry. some of these folks allegedly asked for preemptive presidential pardons while others have faced trump's wrath for not focusing enough on his election lies. for the hundreds of witnesses and thousand of hours of testimony it's important to remember who has been trying to hide from the truth and what other information they may have about the ex-president's attempted coupe. don't let obstruction blur into the background because accountability is the only way to ensure that this never happens to our country again. and that's your reality check. ♪ ♪ >>> good morning to viewers here in the united states and all around the world, it is wednesday, june 22nd. i'm john berma

on december 18th she says met with former national security adviser michael flynn, attorney sidney powell and advi tt nt it was directly caused by donald trump's actions in the weeks and months before january 6th. that is what this committee is trying to establish. >> reporter: cheney also confirmed previous reports that as members of the mob yelled "hang mike pence," trump was privately endorsing the crowd's chants. >> the president responded with this sentiment, quote, maybe our supporters have the right idea. mike pence, quote, deserves it. >> reporter: and cheney says multiple republican members of congress asked trump for presidential pardons after the riot. >> breach the line. this crowd is a riot. >> reporter: the hearing featured never before seen video from the attack. along with witness testimony, caroline edwards was the first u.s. capitol officer injured. >> i couldn't believe my eyes. there were officers on the ground, you know, they were bleeding, they were throwing up. it was carnage, it was chaos. >> reporter: the committee also played a taped deposition from trump's daugh

, president trump instructed his chief of staff, mark meadows, to contact both roger stone and michael flynn regarding what would play out the next day. miss hutchinson, is it your understanding that president trump asked mark meadows to speak with roger stone and general flynn on january 5th? >> that's correct. that is my understanding. >> and miss hutchinson, it is your understanding that mr. meadows called mr. stone on the 5th? >> i'm under the impression that mr. meadows did complete the calls to mr. stone and general flynn the evening of the 5th. >> and do you know what they talked about? >> i'm not sure. >> is it your understanding that mr. giuliani, mr. eastman and others set up what has been called a quote, war room, at the willard hotel on the nigh of the 5th? >> i was aware of that. >> and do you know if mr. meadows intended to go to the willard hotel on the night of the 5th. >> mr. meadows had a conversation with me where he wanted me to work with secret service on a movement from the white house to the willard hotel so he could attend the meeting or meetings with mr. giuliani and

there are also remaining questions about the days leading up to the sixth, about players like michael flynn, the former national security adviser. >> general flynn, do you believe the violence on january 6th was justified? >> is that -- can i get clarification? is that a moral question or are you -- you're asking me? >> i'm asking both. >> i take the fifth. >> do you believe the violence of january 6th was just if ied morally? >> i take the fifth. >> do you believe the violence on january 6th was justified legally? >> fifth. >> general flynn, do you believe in the peaceful transition of power in the united states of america? >> the fifth. >> reporter: the former president now calls hutchinson a phony, saying he hardly knows her. even though she worked just paces from the oval office. the committee is urging others in the trump white house to come forward. they want to hear from white house counsel pat cipollone, who hutchinson says was fiercely opposed to trump going to the capitol that day. >> mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, "please make sure we don't go up to the capitol. w

trump's national security advisor michael flynn chose to plead the fifth. >> what a disgrace. >> it's first, russia's invasion of ukraine is a central focus as nato leaders gather in spain. we'll go live with admiral john kirby in madrid in just a moment. first, an update on the war from molly hunter. >> reporter: this morning, new video showing the moment of impact when a russian missile struck a busy mall in central ukraine in week. it was packed with people. russia saying they were targeting a nearby weapons depot. on the edge of kharkiv, we meet nina. she's distraught. she tells us her only remaining daughter was forced to russia. nobody needs her except for me, she says. how did you find out? did she call you? two weeks earlier, she says, her daughter called saying the russians got me. forcible transfers to russia is a war crime. where the warring party comes and removes a segment of the population and they have no choice where they end up going. we spoke with her. she's safe and she's on her way right now. now. >> from her village near the russian border, natalia was taken mosco

that's lieutenant general michael flynn's case, to his linked in account. the article was a september 3, 2020, opinion piece from "the washington post" entitled, why the michael flynn case still matters, which was about, quote, the trump administration's abuses of the justice system, end of quote. he also liked other politically charged articles relating to then-president trump and his superior, then-attorney general barr. thibault's public political association doesn't even end with those examples. according to his twitter feed, which is also under his name, he mocked the election of one of our new colleagues, senator tuberville and the state of mississippi at the same time. he said, quote, thank god for mississippi state model of alabama, end of quote. i'm not sure exactly what that means, but it's pretty clear that he's making fun. when representative liz cheney tweeted, quote, dick cheney says wear a mask, end of quote, thibault replied this, quote, your dad was a disgrace, end of quote. he recently tweeted, quote, can we give kentucky to the russian fe

it's this group, but roger stone and michael flynn were also involved in these efforts. kind of coming back to what does feel like trying to rerun that old play book. >> certainly. and the cast of characters that materialized at the willard is a really interesting mix both of people who certainly had notable roles and historic episodes in the past as this video of eastman i had not seen before highlights but also people who very much are still part of trump's inner circle. boris epstein, one of the folks at the willard hotel works closely with former president trump. he's not somebody who has been, you know, marginalized or diminished whatsoever in the wake of january 6th. rather he plays an important role in president trump's current circumstance -- former president trump's current circle of advisers. we would expect that if trump does run again in 2024, boris epstein would very much be in the trenches with him based on everything that i know right now. bernie karik is also somebody whose testimony has flown under the radar but brought interesting information to the com

consider that to mueller's scorecard, senior trump figures like paul manafort, michael flynn, roger stonether pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial. six people served time in prison. the former president pardoned four of them before he left office. >>> and from the gridiron to the green, some of the best quarterbacks in the nfl are set to compete tonight in the latest version of the match. andy scholes is in las vegas with a preview. >> sixth edition of the match will once again take place on the las vegas strip and this time it is all about the quarterbacks. you've got tom brady and aaron rodgers taking on two of the game's brightest young stars in patrick mahomes and josh allen. >> we're not just doing this to do it. we want to win. >> we want to win. especially those two guys. >> i'm not going to let my partner down. he knows i'm a gamer. >> it will be really fun, it will be really challenging. >> and this will be challenging because for the first time ever in the match, no pro golfers are involved and fans will be in attendance. >> i said are there caddies out there, anyone that c

revelation of this meeting on december 18 in which donald trump, rudy giuliani, sidney powell and michael flynne all in the room prompting between inviting people to come to washington on january 6 when he said it is going to be wild. they say that was the beginning of what was the coordination. tom: to look forward again, what is the legal outcome of what you just said? what is the next one week out, one month out after the election in november of what those people set in the room or is it just theater? >> a lot of this is going to be theater and a lot of people may not believe what they are hearing. a lot of people have prejudge this. whether or not they accomplished their goals is a question as we start these hearings. they have conducted over 1000 interviews and so it is difficult to tell exactly what they are going to roll out and what they will demonstrate as a present threat against the electoral system here. liz cheney, who we heard from extensively along with a couple of witnesses were giving us a taste. the question you are asking brings us to the department of justice. will they refe

on december 18th, 2020, a group, including general michael flynn, anthony powell, rudy giuliani, and others, visited the white house. they stayed late into the evening. we know that the group discussed a number of dramatic steps, including having the military sees voting machines and potentially rerun elections. you will also hear the president met with that group alone for a period of time before white house lawyers and other staff discovered the group was there and rushed to intervene. a little more than an hour after ms. powell, mr. giuliani, general flynn, and the others finally left the white house, president trump sent the tweet on the screen now, telling people to come to washington on january 6th. be there, he instructed them. it will be wild. as you will see, this was a pivotal moment. this tweet initiated a chain of events. the tweet led to the planning for what occurred on january 6th, including by the proud boys who ultimately led the invasion of the capitol and the violence on that day. the indictment of a group of proud boys alleges that they planned, quote, deposed by

you bring up the point, and it is so important, michael flynn, there was no obama efforts to unmask michael was on the up and our. then we get the trump outlets and the headlines saying that it is true, it is true, clinton spied on trump. we find out that, too, is a lie. then as you said, barr accidentally tells the truth, commits that washington gaffe by saying, "oh, we don't want -- we don't need convictions. we're just virtue signaling." taken all in all, what a damning record for barr. what a damning record for all of these people who have been reporting these lies. >> yeah. joe, it actually has worked. you know, as you lay it out that way, you know the old saying, a lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still lacing up its shoes. think about what happened here. you know, we finally have this admission after the fact that, okay, it wasn't about a legal matter. it wasn't really about wrongdoing. it was just about trying to put political cases out there. but they did get that political case out there unchallenged because this was the justice department with the author

describing how a month after trump lost the 2020 election is former national security advisor, michael flynn, rudy giuliani, and sidney powell met at the white house on how to use the military to seize voting machines. even though testimony by those in trump's inner circle, then attorney general bill barr, and jason miller made clear trump was told he lost the election. >> he was saying the election was stolen and putting out this stuff which i told the president was [expletive]. reporter: capitol police officer carolyn edwards, seen on this video, knocked down by rioters testifying it was a worsening. >> i could not believe my eyes. i was slipping in people's blood. it was carnage and chaos. >> aware of the writer -- rioters' chants to hang the vice president, president trump said "maybe they have the right idea." reporter: trump and republicans are slamming the hearing calling it a political attack. faith abubey, abc7news. reggie: thank you. drew: -- liz: a hearing watch party meant to get the community engaged. fremont community members came together at a pizza shop. organizers say this i

for example, if a third party was present, michael flynn or roger stone or anyone else who is not protected by the privileges, then there's no privilege. with regard to executive privilege, as we learned in the nixon days, that is a qualified privilege. it's not absolute. it must yield when there's another interest that outweighs it. of course, they found the january 6 investigation does outweigh that interest. the committee has a lot of good ammunition to negotiate with. my guess is that they will reach some middle ground where he doesn't answer every question but gives them what they need. >> to robert, talk about the political fallout from the hearing. the former president and his allies immediately jumping on and in fairness the secret service -- the two secret service members questioning aspects of her testimony, but liz cheney saying at the reagan library that everything she said, that cassidy said, was accurate. >> liz cheney feels confident in the testimony given. i think broadly, the hearing itself and what we heard from cassidy hutchinson was astonishing, shocking and devastating.

one of them michael flynn's responses to the following simple questions. >> do you believe the violencejanuary 6 was justified? >> can i get a clarification? is that a real yes youquestion asking or a leading one? >> i'm asking both. >> i said i pled the fifth. >> do you believe the violence on january 6 was justified morally? >> i take the fifth. >> do you believe the violence on january 6 was justified legally? >> fifth. >> general flynn, do you believe in the peaceful transition of power in the united states of america? >> the fifth. >> those are not hard questions to answer, but flynn wouldn't do so. violence is never justified in a presidential transition of power. i'm sure historian doug agrees. doug, where does this stack up in history, do you think? >> watergate is on everybody's lips, and in a way, cassidy hutchinson is the john dean of the moment. this is just devastating testimony we heard today. donald trump has to be cringing in disbelief. she delivered all the goods. there is nothing like this since the civil war. i mean, if watergate was less than this, we never had a pre

mine was michael flynn not pleading fifth to questions like do you agree with the peaceful transfer of in america. >> by the way, that's a guy who's sworn oath os of allegeance to the united states of america any number of times. >> this is what it's about fundamentally. everything you hear at home about the hearing, think of how would this disrupt or delay the formal, peaceful transfer of power? and at every point, choose your own adventure. a lawyer says we probably shouldn't do this. it seems illegal and they gei'm going to talk to someone else. i think at home, you need to think how would this have disrd disrupted or delayed the peaceful transfer of power? and is there a candidate who agrees with the actions happening on that day. >> we're getting to the other side of the panel in a second. perspective from donald trump's niece, who has characterized her uncle as the world's most dangerous man. well see if mary trump was surprised by anything she heard. and much more. that's next. by a backedup gut" miralax is different. it works naturally with the water in your body to unblock you

but i do think that michael flynn did have a valid fifth amendment, in other words, if for instance, that would be something they would tend to incriminate him. so it really depends on what he was planning on answering. it obviously was very painful to listen to. this is a former general and government official at high positions in various administrations. and to be able to not answer those questions was really shocking. >> what were the key moments of the hearing for you, from a legal standpoint? >> so, i think there's sort of two things that stood up for me. one is, to go out on a limb here, i think that the issue for merrick garland, in light of today's hearing, is not gonna be can he indict the former president? it's going to be, the second question that all prosecutors need to ask, which is, should he? and, it seems very clear that a thorough and comprehensive investigation by the department justice is only going to strengthen. and in light of what we heard today. let me give you an example. everyone has been talking about pat cipollone, and how he is not appeared, or how michae

after taking office, trump pressured then fbi director james comey to drop an investigation into michael flynnersonal demand of him. >> i got the sense my job would be contingent upon how he felt i conducted myself and whether i demonstrated loyalty. >> reporter: trump denied asking for comey's loyalty but ended up firing comey, later saying he was frustrated over the on going russia probe. later, after then attorney general bill barr who had been a loyalest finally said he saw no evidence of wide spread election fraud in 2020 trump called barr quote stupid, a coward, a swamp creature. according to the mueller report, trump once asked why the department of justyjustice didn fight for him the way robert kennedy fought for his brother while john ken nedy was president. he said that's not the way a relationship between a president and attorney general should be. >> there is a long practice the president and the attorney general should not communicate about cases. president trump violated that pretty repeatedly throughout his administration. >> the analyst we spoke to are worried about the imprint

on december 18th, 2020, a group including general michael flynn, sidney powell, rudy giuliani and others visited the white house. they stayed late into the evening. we know that the group discussed a number of dramatic steps, including having the military seize voting machines and potentially re-run elections. you will also hear that president trump met with that group alone for a period of time before white house lawyers and other staff discovered the group was there and rushed to intervene. a little more than an hour after ms. powell, mr. giuliani, general flynn, and the others finally left the white house, president trump sent the tweet on the screen now. telling people to come to washington on january 6th. be there, he instructed them. will be wild. as you will see, this was a pivotal moment. this tweet initiated a chain of events. the tweet led to the planning for what occurred on january 6th including by the proud boys, who ultimately led the invasion of the capitol. and the violence on that day. the indictment of a group of proud boys alleges that they planned, quote, to oppose by

there's one more moment i want to play where the committee played part of the video testimony from michael flynn. this was congresswoman cheney questioning him. take a look. >> do you believe the violence on january 6th was justified morally? do you believe the violence on january 6th was justified legally? >> no. >> general flynn, do you believe in the peaceful of transition of power in the united states of america? >> the fifth. >> so the fifth, i guess it's just -- michael, what were your thoughts when you saw that. >> you don't want to incriminate yourself to answering the question about a peaceful transfer of power. that tells me how corrupt you are. the fact that you can't answer. i get the constitutional right to plead the 5th and i appreciate all of that, but some questions are just so damn easy and so with respect to the constitutional value of transfer of power, peaceful transfer of power that we have seen executed in this country for over 240 yards, i have no opinion on that. i don't want to incriminate myself. how dumb do you sound and how guilty do you sound with respect to a larger

then we also saw consistent discussions during hutchinson's testimony on michael flynn. when you look at those people who are at the rally, those that were connected to these praetorian guard type troops groups, guarding and leading them into trump rallies into an around the white house and into an around the capitol, those are the key linkages around this point because they had not been flushed out in the indictments that we had seen in the doj. i thought one of those things from the hearing that is probably the most important are these connections between the white house and these militia groups. i think that will get fleshed out in the coming weeks and that's really where the ties are. we are talking about an insurrection, we are talking about violence. i'm much more interested in that and whether there were some sort of argument in a sedan with the president. >> also, part of where the continued threat is. carol leonnig and clint watts, thank you both so much. coming up, the debate over democrats response to voter expectations. what it could all mean for november, wh

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let's discuss michael flynn's taped testimony where he repeatedly pleaded fifth. here is just a short portion of that. >> ms. hutchinson, did rudy giuliani suggest he was interested in receiving a presidential pardon related to january 6th? >> he did. >> ms. hutchinson, did white house chief of staff mark meadows ever indicate that he was interested in receiving a presidential pardon related to january 6th? >> mr. meadows did seek that pardon, yes, ma'am. >> that was not general flynn. that was talking about pardons there. but another explosive moment from the testimony. what did you read into that, grace? >> well, this is just -- adds to the number of people we know from the committee's hearings who are believed to have sought pardons including multiple members of congress, john eastman and now meadows and giuliani. the question is why? why do they believe they needed to be pardoned for what happened on january 6th and especially given meadow's refusal to cooperate with the committee on many respects definitely raises flags for future hearings and investigation.

chief of staff mark meadows was talking about going to the willard hotel on january 5th, where michael flynn roger stone, john eastman, rudy giuliani and others had been in and out, setting up what was called a makeshift war room. joining us now is former senior technical adviser to the january 6th committee and former congressman denver riggleman. great to see you. as much as we heard yesterday, as many big revelations as there were, you say it doesn't even get to some of the bigger issues the operational planning for what happened on january 6th. what about that meeting or what was going on at the willard hotel, mark meadows' plans to go to the meeting and dial in, what does that tell us about the operational planning? >> well, john, good morning. and there is a few things that you know might be a little bit different than you heard from other people. i think what the hearing did yesterday and why it was so important is that it established the individuals that were part of the planning, that were actually supportive of president trump and also established the people that weren't and establ

. >> the nsa forwarded all surveillance reports that included michael flynn's name to the white house where flynn 's name was promptly unmasked. >> the names of the people who unmasked general flynn have been publicized. joe biden, john brennan, jim comey. your reaction? >> it was the greatest political crime in the history of our country. >> why has there been such limited coverage of the flynn unmasking when this is what the president of the united states has referred to as the biggest political scandal in history of the united states of america? >> none of that was true. but imagine being a fox news viewer and having a cast of characters pushing that line on you over and over four years. a supposed grave crime is that trump's first national security adviser, mike flynn, a guy who pled guilty to lying to the fbi about lying having meetings with the russian official, before trump took office, was somehow improperly targeted by the obama administration, and had his identity unasked for political reasons. well, now we are seeing that this is nonsense as well. according to a 2020 depart

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boris epshteyn, trump's sort of acolyte, it's this group, but roger stone and michael flynn were also these efforts. these same characters kind of coming back to what does feel like trying to rerun that old playbook. >> certainly. and the cast of characters that materialized at the willard is a really interesting mix, both of people who certainly had notable roles in historic episodes in the past as this video of eastman i had not seen before highlights, but also people who very much are still part of trump's inner circle. boris epshteyn, one of the folks who was at the willard hotel, works closely with former president trump. he's not somebody who has been, you know, marginalized or diminished whatsoever in the wake of january 6th. rather, he plays an important role in president trump's current -- former president trump's current circle of advisers. we would expect if trump does run again in 2024, boris epshteyn would very much be in the trenches with him, at least based on everything i know right now. bernie carrick, of course, is also somebody whose testimony has flown under the ra

. >> on december 18th, 2020, a group including general michael flynn, sydney powell, rudy giuliani and others visited the white house. they stayed late into the evening. we know that the group discussed a number of dramatic steps, including having the military seize voting machines and potentially re-run elections. you will also hear the president met with that group alone for a period of time, before white house lawyers and other staff discovered the group was there and rushed to intervene. a little more than an hour after miss powell, mr. giuliani, general flynn, and the others finally left the white house, president trump sent a tweet on the screen now, telling people to come to washington on january 6th. be there, he instructed them, will be wild. as you will see, this was a pivotal moment. this tweet initiated a chain of events. the tweet led to the planning for what occurred on january 6th, including by the proud boys, who will led the invasion of the capitol and the violence on that day. the indictment of a group of bad boys alleges that they plan to quote oppose by force the au