, and republican voters in the race already decided they're not listening to mitt romney and mitt romneythese are people that lost the gop electorate, the elite. >> my question is are you okay saying to speaker ryan, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell and paul ryan, keep it up, keep saying these things, at a certain point it has to hurt. >> he made comments people disagree with and they have a right to their opinion. end of the day, i think you'll see the republican party unite around trump, especially at the convention. all of the things romney put out, there will be a white knight candidate hasn't materialized, he failed even in that. >> tara, mitt romney says these things and says them strongly yet he is not running, says he is not going to try to cause some revolt at the convention with someone else, he is not going to vote for hillary clinton, he is going to write in someone else's name. if his goal is to stop donald trump, is that short of doing everything he can? >> yes. i happen to agree with mitt romney's assessment of what's going on here but it would have been nice then fo

mitt romney.ave donald trump still going after some of his party statesmen. i want to play the sound bite and get your reaction on the back end of it. take a listen. >> i've had moropposition from the republican party than i do from the democrats. it's crazy. with that being said, i think it's coming together. the republican party has to be tough, has to be smart. and if they're not tough and smart, i'm going to win, but a lot of other people won't. >> i mean, he's saying, like, we're going to come together. like it's almost like, you know, very -- >> oh. >> exactly. >> no fun. >> i feel like -- i feel like he -- i want to get your reaction to whether or not you think comments like those are going to divide the party further or not. >> the -- the goal we all seek is to have the right kind of policy to liberate the american people from a lot of burdens that we face now that we really could find much less so if we had the right kind of leadership. and donald trump has said some very compatible, cong

fresh attacks on the gop coming from mitt romney. our cnn politics reporter teddy schleiffer is there. what is mitt romney saying today. >> he's talking to about 300 of his business friends, donors, previous republican candidates. he had serious words both for republicans who failed to stop trump in the past. he lamented, ted cruz and john kasich who he said did not take on donald trump sufficiently. but the most emotional moment came when governor romney talked about the state of affairs today. he said seeing this is breaking my heart. obviously we know governor romney is not a fan of donald trump. we know he feels pretty strongly about this. at times he appeared to be beating back tears as he gave what he saw as the status of the party. it was not very hopeful. you know, he kind of talked about other republican candidates who he might have been more willing to support, he said, had there been a president bush referring to jeb bush, president walker or president rubio, he might have been willing to serve on their administration. he

>> well, looks like history is repeating itself. 1964, mitt romney's father george romney, from michigano work against which ultimately gave the democrats the white house and looks like mitt is trying to fill his daddy's shoes. you can't sit there and tell me that the guy that made the 47% comment that made damage to his campaign, with the whole argument has any basis whatsoever to call donald trump racist. and the fact is, he just needs to go away. he had his chance. all his comments are doing are being used against donald trump just like his dad's comments were being used against barry goldwater in 1964. >> the 47 comment do you think that's a racist thing by mitt romney? >> well, basically, if it's not being a snob, it's top level. what it is the wealth inequality that existed between the different wealthy in this country. middle class, upper class. and how the upper class felt like they were so much more economically off than the middle and lower class. you could sit there and try to move it around. he has no criteria whatsoever to criticize donald trump in this area. >> lanhee, do y

you heard about how donald trump is really giving it back to mitt romney pretty hard after what mitt romney said about donald trump today. but what is the political value of that? is he going to continue to lash out at every single critic, given he now has hey clear opponent in clinton? >> mitt romney is a pretty prominent one and i do think this goes to reinforcing his image as the antiestablishment candidate ic candidate. i mean, i have no idea what mtt romney is doing here. to be perfectly candid, every time he does something like this, in truth i think it only helps donald trump. and the best thing for him to do would just go dark as it were and not say anything. but he keeps doing this and frankly i think that that helps. you heard the crowd boo him when donald trump mentioned his name. that's just -- if you're from mitt romney's point of view i don't think that's productive. >> and trump says that the republican party right now is not strong enough and not smart enough and this is after he was really going after mitt romney. ben, what is your response to that? >> look, i think m

fred barnes is trying to convince mitt romney to run as the head of a third party. we have a lot to discuss including what the establishment is playing at. not only ryan and romney. but knew senator majority leader mitch mcconnell joining in to an apparent resistance movement to the republican party's elected standard-bearer. he said the remarks about the trump university judge were beyond the pale. ryan in his typical fashion took no note at all of the judge's potential political organizations. what could be better than two women leftists on the democratic ticket. hillary clinton stoking speculation she may choose senator elizabeth warren as her running-mate. clinton met with warren at her home in washington. trump tweeted pocahontas is at it again. goofy elizabeth warren has a nasty mouth. hope she is vp choice. warren called trump a thin-skinned fraud. the race already heated. i'll be talking about it with a number of tonight toes and a haven'ts -- a number of politicos and a savants. another social media giant is accused of cyber ask kren orship. news that google

>> google mitt romney and racism.r things when he was running. >> he got skewered for it. but he is not running this time. do you take issue at all with your boss, you say you know him personally, with comments he made especially about the judge? >> no. mr. trump clarified his remarks, he issued a statement. his remarks were misconstrued. there's a double standard in the media. it was unfairly played out. again, he doesn't have a racist bone in his body. he is an amazing person with a huge heart, he employed african-americans, hispanics and minorities by the thousands. it should be left there. >> jason, he said trump can read off a teleprompter and pretend to be someone he is not, but do you think voters will forget the things he said in the past year? >> no. as governor romney said, he would like to move on from the comments, but the problem is you can't put the jeannie back in the bottle. it is one thing after another. every week we have new controversy and every other week he is offending some other group that we n

quite a sight there. >>> a war of words erupting between mitt romney and donald trump over the currentp nominee's comments on race. here's former governor romney. >> i simply can't put my name down as someone who voted for principles that suggest racism or misogyny, bigotry, who has been vulgar time and time again. >> and then donald trump waste nothing time hitting back on twitter. writing, quote, mitt romney had his chance to be the failed president but he choked like a dog. now he calls me racist, but i am the least racist person there is. joining us now monica crow by, editor for the washington times and wonderful fox news contributor. >> hi. >> here we have romney under a big spotlight, talking about his disgust of donald trump. what impact is that going to have on this race? >> i am a firm believer that if you don't have nothing nice to say about somebody you should not say anything at all. the republican party has the nominee. donald trump is not going anywhere. everybody already knows that governor romney has serious problems as donald trump as a candidate. he made that crystal

>> yes, mitt romney here was speaking to his yearly conference of about 300 fund-raisers, donors, allies, people who have been in the romney fold for a while. and romney pretty much not only tore into donald trump but also people who he kind of thought enabled his rise. he said of the current republican party, seeing this is breaking my heart. at times pretty emotional, he seemed to be beating back tears as he spoke on a stage before people who admire the man. he also had sharp words for fellow republican candidate, who mitt romney said did not adequately challenge trump during the primary season calling out ted cruz and john kasich in particular. this is a very emotional moment for governor romney. at times he seemed to be trying to implore them to change their mind, maybe act differently. this conference is not a, quote, unquote, never trump retreat. there are several people who are prominent fund-raisers, prominent supporters of the trump campaign. if they were looking for a signal from the man they respect tremendously, mitt romney today, he was pretty clear that he is obviously not

not between donald trump and hillary clinton but between trump and mitt romney. aign trail today in florida and pennsylvania, counterpunching against romney's line about trickle downed racism. peter doocy. >> reporter: donald trump ditched his teleprompter, two days after making headlines for an election night address. it created a lot of

mitt romney slams donald trump for what he calls a bigoted, vulgar campaign. romney wishes trump supporters would reject him now and worries a vote for trump could lead to, quote, trickle down racism. third choice. romney says he won't vote for trump or hillary clinton but is open to voting for a third option. who will romney back in november? >>> sticking to the script. donald trump's second speech this week using a teleprompter shows he may be yielding to pressure from gop leaders to act more presidential. can he stay on message? >>> democrats unite. hillary clinton huddles with elizabeth warren while bernie sanders vows to work together to defeat donald trump, but are they ready for trump's latest attacks? we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i am wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> breaking news, the former gop stand bearer mitt romney slams this year's presumptive republican presidential nominee, donald trump, saying trump is promoting bigotry. in my exclusive interview, romney says trump should not repres

mitt romney is very thoughtful. we don't want trickled down racism. this is a battle for the heart and soul of america. it's nice to see speaker paul ryan called him a racist. republicans are starting to see this man for what he is. the usa today article, an economic predator, harming, a snake oil salesman, basically not paying his bill. 3500 lawsuits. people are just getting to know donald trump t. more they know, the more they don't like. >> sean do you agree gree, a high water mark? some are saying mitt romney is speaking out against him. we're not seeing a lot of action. it may not be a bad thing for donald trump that the establishment is playing out? >> i would clearly not the high water mark. this election will be one of the nastiest we have seen the ebb and flow, the polling will be up and down to election day. no one will break out. this is going to become a race to the bottom and with hillary's challenges, with all of the negatives that she has, clearly trump has a lot of negatives as well. this is just going to be a constant barrage of who c

so he went hard at mitt romney, of course, mitt romney just yesterday talked about, again, how he couldn'tupport donald trump as the nominee, saying he was worried about trickle down racism and trickle down bigotry. here's trump's response. >> i watched this poor, sad mitt romney this morning. he suffers from massagenist. i don't think had know what's massage massagenist is pt sitting like a real stiff. he let us down. he's a stone cold loser and when you're a choker you can never give a choker a second chance. >> reporter: proving he is a counterpuncher and went again after elizabeth warren, calling her again pocahontas saying he knows he shouldn't say that, and not to the senator, to pocahontas, of course. this is really one of the worst weeks in his campaign where he had very heavy criticism not just from gop insiders in the never trump movement, but from top republicans like the speaker, like mitch mcconnell. even one republican senate unendorsing trump but doesn't seem at his rails to be changing anything. again, sounding about the same as he did several months ago. now, he has more t

donald trump firing off on twitter responding to cnn's exclusive interview with mitt romney, romney vowing dangerous. >> presidents have an impact on the nature of our nation and trickle down racism, trickle down bigotry, all these things are dangerous to the heart and character of america. >> and here's what donald trump had to say just a short time ago on twitter. mitt romney had a chance to beat a failed president but he choked like a dog. now he calls me racist but am least racist person there is. we're live from tampa, florida, where that trump rally is scheduled to start in just about three hours. jeremy, donald trump didn't mention romney last night but we see he is starting the day at least mentioning him on twitter. i guess we should expect to see that at the rallies today in florida as well. >> reporter: it doesn't take mitt romney to fire at donald trump for donald trump to hit back at him. he's been accusing him of choking like a dog for the last weeks. but despite mitt romney hitting him yesterday with this racial accusation, donald trump in the whole last week has been, you k

mitt romney has to make that calculus. he's 100% committed to helping some of our folks who are in down ballot races, senate races, house races. the open seat we have in the florida. he's absolutely committed to doing those things and i think regardless of what he does at the top of the ticket he'll be very involved in helping house and senate candidates. >> thank you so much for the conversation in that beautiful part of the world. get back to those meetings. >>> bernie sanders next move. when could the presidential candidate bow out of the race and what future role could he play on the campaign trail? (vo) on the trane test range, you learn what makes our heating and cooling systems so reliable. if there's a breaking point, we'll find it. it's hard to stop a trane. really hard. trane. the most reliable for a reason. and i quit smoking with chantix. i have smoked for 30 years and by taking chantix, i was able to quit in 3 months and that was amazing. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit

mitt romney raised 23 million dlin may. and $45,000 of that for donald trump was from himself. we know that the trump campaign has been preparing everybody to be very impressed by how shoe

dangerous. >> the rnc chairman, reince priebus, now tweeting his disapproval of that attack by mitt romney writing quote, respect mitt and differences, but couldn't disagree more. scotus too important to lose for generations. let's stop this and unify and trump, too, taking several jabs at mitt romney today. >> he doesn't like trump because i said, you can't give him a third chance. he lost the first time. he really lost the second time. second time was erased, that was an easy one. we had a failed president. >> trump also is asked the crowd here in florida for some help shouting out the names of running mates they would like to see and the three names that he repeated at the podium were newt gingrich and condi rice. >> about ten minutes, we'll have judy miller here angalyzing thi latest in the feud. thanks. >> we'll look forward to this. hillary clinton now setting her sights squarely on donald trump. attacking the nominee in a speech yesterday to planned parenthood. secretary clinton picking up some key high profile endorsements this week and the latest fox news poll shows her taking a n

and if you haven't seen the interview, donald trump and mitt romney are locked into this rhetorical warcalling romney a, quote, choker as romney renews his calls for trump to release his tax returns and accusing the presumptive nominee of hiding a bombshell that's in this cnn exclusive with wolf blitzer, watch. >> there's no question in my mind he will never release his tax returns. he'll follow one excuse after another to say why he can't and he'll never release them because there's something in there that he feels is worse for him than shooting someone on fifth avenue. >> in addition to the concerns over the republican infighting, some in the party are worried that trump will not be able to just raise the money necessary to compete with the democrats this fall. cnn politics reporter is following this story for us. and we know that at this romney summit, this was i guess fair to say a decidedly anti-trump crowd. >> right, well this is not a never-trump conference per se, but it is, of course, a retreat for allies and associates and fund-raisers for governor romney who has been leading

mitt romney. the party's presumptive nominee donald trump and why he is having such a hard time getting the party behind him. >> it is going to be difficult for donald trump to unite the party. that's just a statement of fact and a statement of the obvious because you have somebody that's said some really out rages you things so i don't think we can expect everybody to fall in line but we have to look at this fall. >> joining us now is a former aid and former spokesman for george h.w. bush. he was at the meeting sitting in there. how to get out of this depression mode really. >> there were two topics discussed in that meeting. number one is how do we deal with the donald and number two is how do we preserve our majority in the house and senate. the two are intertwined. >> but if energy is low money might also be low and will that translate to the energy needed down ballot. >> that's one of the huge concerns. you need to have politics 101. a strong person at the top of the ticket otherwise the dete

he this he can drive up the support that mitt romney had among white voters. this is where things get interesting. because a lot of republicans assumed after 2012 that that number that romney got there, 59-39 he was basically maxing out what republicans could get from white voters. this is interesting. in our latest nbc news/"wall street journal" poll overall among white voters this is what you see. trump is basically on pace right here to hit what romney got. you know, some undecided voters here. look at this divide between college educated white voters and noncollege educated white voters. noncollege educated white voters trump leads by 27 points. this is actually better, better than mitt romney did among noncollege educated white voters in 2012. he won that group by 25 points. trump already up by 27 and you see that only adds up to 89. some undecided there trump is driving up support to levels that even mitt romney couldn't reach among white voters who don't have college degrees. but the flip side is a 44-44 tie among white voters with college degrees. the m

i'm talk about mitt romney, paul ryan and i'm talk about bill kristol. are these pals of yours? we need to talk. >> they are pals of mine and i have to say, i've been pretty clear with mitt romney and i think what mitt romney needs do in all can ul kall candor, he n a hobby, needs to take up golf. >> what about bill kristol? >> i said what he's essentially doing is trying to ensure hillary clinton gets to pick four supreme court justices. >> i don't think he cares. i think he's a knee owe con oig and nothing more than a residue of a time that is gone. >> they don't understand what is happening. >> it's like you said, step aside. this arena is trump's and the republican party's and they're no part of either as far as i can see. >> their time is then if not now. and they have to realize -- it's like they're in dem. and so many people are in denial about what is happening in this country. it's easy to be dismissive, but hard to come up -- >> meanwhile the latest polling shows trump has 86% support of republicans. >> that's right. >> he needs 90% according to all the savants. >> i d

newt gingrich beat mitt romney in south carolina that year by more than 10 points. and after that super-strong surprise showing in south carolina, there was this brief period of time in the 2012 race where newt gingrich really was the republican presidential front-runner. and of course it didn't last. but he did really beat romney by a lot in south carolina. and at the time he had this billionaire backing him who seemed ready to spend infinitely to promote newt gingrich as a candidate. the way that newt gingrich won south carolina so big was that he just brutalized mitt romney in the press and that just seemed like a very effective thing. that wasn't going to turn around any time soon. i remember covering it at the time. i remember it was a short period of time but i remember the beltway being absolutely captivated for a short period of time by this idea that newt gingrich had come back from disgrace, right? newt gingrich had come back from the '90s. he had dug himself out of his political grave. he was going to topple mitt romney for the republican presidential nom

i've been clear with mitt romney.t mitt romney needs to do in all candor, he needs to find a hobby, go away, take up golf. lou: what did you tell bill kristol? >> i said what he is essentially doing is trying to ensure that hillary clinton gets to pick four supreme court justices. lou: he doesn't care does, he? >> i think he does care. >> i think he's a neocon and nothing more than residue of a time that is gone. >> they don't understand what's happening. they don't understand the changes that people want. lou: to hell with them. step aside, this arena is trump's and the republican parties. >> their time is then, not now. so many people are in denial what's happening in this country. easy to be dismissive. but it's hard to come up with the -- lou: trump has 86% support of republicans. >> that's right. lou: he needs 90 according to all of the savants. >> i don't know if i agree. lou: that's what the savants say, how much does he need? >> i think high 80s is good. i think he's going to get a higher percentage of indepen

mitt romney and elizabeth warren.conomists on the right and the left and the center all agree -- trump would throw us back into recession. he says women will start making equal pay as soon as we do as good a job as men. he calls himself the king of debt. and his tax plan sure lives up to that name. alexander hamilton would be rolling in his grave. he has written a lot of books about business. they all seem to and at chapter 11. [laughter] is this who you want to lead us in an emergency? someone thin-skinned and quick to anger, who would likely be on twitter attacking reporters, or bringing the regulatory system down on his critics, when he should be focused on fixing what is wrong? what he even know what to do? mark: unlike in the past, when clinton attacked trump, this time team trump replied with more than just a few tweets, deploying and more conventional tool. what is known as rapid response. the trim campaign fired off 9 press releases, along with a a handful of trump's tweets.he followed that up with posting thi

mitt romney's bane capital was better by any metric.mitt romney was a better businessman than donald trump. unfortunately he was embarrassed about his wealth, romney. he was embarrassed about the business career and wouldn't defend it. i don't know why. trump doesn't have that problem. he'll defend it. he'll say there were failures. look at trump tower. people swear by these golf courses. he won't have a problem standing up for himself on the business case. >> donald trump's attacks on hillary clinton. what's he trying to do going after her political and personal evidents as well? >> he's defining her as the special interest. crony capitalism. the one thing he's showing is one thing republicans wanted for a long time. the candidate will take the bark off the opposition. going mano a mano with hillary clinton. it will be a fistfight. he's showing her you want to attack me, i will dump on you relentlessly. attack you as a corrupt person. there is a lot of suspicion in the country. >> what do you think? >> absolutely. it was also just inte

it was devastating for mitt romney but mitt romney never owned his wealth. donald trump is proud of success, proud of his wealth. i think that would be an effective way to counter back. first they have to make this attack stick, which they haven't necessarily done. >> you mean about the fraud of university? >> yeah. >> robert can he counter attack. will he say thanks for fighting on my turf. i think it's dangerous to get into someone's business fairs because they know it better than you know it. >> this is who he is. he would rather talk about his brands and businesses than policy. if you're going to go at him like a political opponent, you should expect a fight because he loves to fight and loves to promote. that's what i would expect to see in response. >> what killed mitt romney was bane but the chop shop stuff. thank you. coming up, bernie sanders plans to fight all the way into the democratic convention. he's at war now with some of the biggest liberal icons in the democratic party, including former u.s. congressman barney franks. >>> plus, what's hilla

when you look at the analogy, the mitt romney/donald trump analogy, i wonder if there was something to romney was easy to caricature as the villainous rich guy who profited off the working-class backs. and donald trump already has more appeal than mitt romney did. >> he does. but for clinton sattacking, hey i hope there's a housing crisis, because i'll get rich. he said, i'm a businessman. this attack is even a deeper wound. they're talking about preying on older people, single moms. it's a real psychological appeal. they're talking about preying on people's weaknesses. they up-sell them, they don't get what they want. they say trump is going to hand-pick the teachers, but he doesn't. we have jewelry salesmen teaching real estate with no real estate experience. so it gets to the heart of whether he's made his money as a scam artist. i was kind of shocked, i thought that was a remarkably tepid defense of co-chair. donald trump doesn't say, this is under litigation. he said they're losers. i was surprised that mr. clovis sat back and said, we'll see. >> it's not going to be resolved lega

-- to raise a lot of money for mitt romney. are in a different direction for the current state, $1 million cash on hand, that is less than some democratic -- congressional candidates who are running unopposed. you have to try to be that far in the whole this time. -- in the hole this time. spencer: you think you can just show up to a few events, and you can raise or money than that. i think what people want is a message. they want to hear a message articulated by the candidate. he cannot blame this on the operations of the campaign or the finance staff for the bundlers or do donors. -- or the donors. at the end of the day, the buck stops with the candidate. mark: you works for a candidate that had a lot of wealth, not as much as donald trump, but a lot of wealth. we see that in the past. donald trump writes a big check. he'd explained the psychology very wealthy a person to write a big check, how hard is it to raise money? spencer: almost impossible. people say, he doesn't care about the donors. he may not want this as much, be

mitt romney looks like a fool. why would i say something good about mitt romney? >> [indiscernible] mr. trump: she was not nice and i was fine, just a little bit of the jab. but she wasn't nice. and you think i'm going to change? i'm not changing. including with her. one more. >> [indiscernible] mr. trump: bob dole is a fan of mine. bob dole endorsed me. don't tell me about bob dole. >> [indiscernible] mr. trump gary johnson got 1% of : the vote last time. i watched that whole situation and it was disgraceful. i think he is a fringe candidate. you want to know the truth. i look at him and i watch his motions and i watch what he says. i think he is a fringe candidate. weld,ur second, you know, when you do a little research on him you will find he will not be a factor. >> [indiscernible] i think you set a new bar today [indiscernible] mr. trump: not all of you just many of you. not you david. >> is this what it is going to be like when you are president? mr. trump: yes, it is. yes, it is going to be like this, david. let me say something. i'm a person, yes it is goi

at the 2012 election, the way in which that was framed was mitt romney rich guy cutting tons of jobs bs were cut on television and that really painted romney into a corner that he never escaped from. the thing that is hard, this is trump. women are reading quotes that he said about women, they were run in the primary, should have been absolutely disastrous for him and yet here he stands. but, yes, i would assume this this would be a big piece of the clinton argument going forward. i think you have both of them today. trump university and then you also have the argument you touched on that she will make which is that donald trump is fundamentally dangerous to interests abroad. >> and we showed that ad hearing alums from trump university. one person featured is also a trump family acquaintance whose protein infused water is stocked at trump's golf courses, restaurants and resorts. another one is a woman whose son wrote a self help book that received an endorsement and plug from donald trump. so there are some connections there, as well. you mentioned mitt romney, though, the 2012 obama

no talking about that mitt romney. mitt romney really screwed that up.s four years ago in the summer of 2012. mitt romney was the republican candidate for president. to make himself look more like a leader of global stature he took a trip to london and it went very, very badly. very badly. mr. romney at one point forgot the name, appeared to forget the name of the majority leader of the labor party while he was meeting with him, kept calling him "mr. leader" which is not a thing in english politics and everybody in britain thought maybe he thought mr. milliand band was a north korean dictator or something. mr. leader? mitt romney got all england furious with him when he said it didn't look to him like london was all that ready to host the olympics. "the sun" headlined their article, "mitt the twit." a british official who actually met with mitt romney on his trip told "the daily mail" that mitt romney was "a total car crash." and "worse than sarah palin." the uk is supposed to be an easy one. the uk is supposed to be an easy overseas trip for american po

all words mitt romney says describe donald trump's behavior. in a rare interview with cnn, romney also calling trump vulgar. romney says there is nothing trump could do to win support. >> presidents have an impact on the nature of our nation. and trickle down racism, trickle down bigotry, misogyny, dangerous to the heart and character of america. >> i don't mean knee's words coming as trump and clinton took to the stump today, continuing to attack the other in harsh and extremely personal terms. >> hillary clinton. saying the words radicalism. manu, are the attacks within the gop having an affect on trump himself? is this. >> hey, erin. trump is not one to apologize or say he's done anything wrong. clearly he recognizes just how much damage his comments about judge gonzalo curiel had done to his standing. especially as he tries to unite a very divided republican party. so when we saw today, erin, a cautious donald trump, and that's a sign he just may be listening to party elders. >> tonight, donald trump sticking to the script. >> together, frie

if you were someone like mitt romney, you want people who are proud to vote for him.ou could say this is a true conservative, a guy who served in the military with outstanding resume. but is he someone who donald sayp could meet with and how do we react to david french? no. not yet. john: we don't want to be dismissive of this person is a citizen, in the best possible standing. we were talking about this is someone for never trumpers, who don't like the idea of spinning out the election -- sitting out the election, and want to cast a vote for someone, you can imagine this guy or someone like him. if you can't raise money, you may have to vote for him by writing him in. the state -- the chances of him getting on the ballot, he's going to have to raise money. he has not lined up a running mates, or financial support. with that is who kristol was talking about. john: gary johnson and bill wells are more likely to be a factor in this election, running on the libertarian line. two guys who have run states, one of them is almost a national figure. those guys are much more l

if you took the 2012 electoral map, barack obama versus mitt romney. if donald trump could win oohio, pennsylvania and florida and everything else stays the same, that would be enough. he would be president. with that in mind, let's check in. the state of florida, new poll out there today. hillary clinton opening up an 8-point lead. this is a state that barack obama barely carried four years ago. the margin was about a point. it's exploded to eight points. if you want to say it's been a bad few weeks for donald trump, how bad, your answer is florida. he's now close to ten points behind in an absolutely huge, pretty much must win state for him. at the same time, remember, we said florida, pennsylvania, ohio . the two industrial states there. ohio still dead even. clinton, 40, trump, 40. barack obama won this state narrowly. hillary clinton clinging to a one-point lead there. there is some good news for trump. pennsylvania and ohio, he is competitive right now. the bad news for trump, he has fallen far behind in florida. florida with a big, big number of

why not mitt romney?s there any way -- and i saw the interview this saturday and it was an impassioned explanation and defense for his big attack on donald trump, how strongly he feels and he would write in a candidate. you've known the man so well. is there any way given this appeal because he's not going to attract koch brothers money and big money. >> i really don't know the answer to that. i would rather doubt it. he's a person of great conscience and great ability. be a fantastic president and i think he would make it a genuine three-person race. it would be a genuine three-person race as opposed to running a spoiler campaign. but i don't know if he has any intention. he's also a very serious and organized person. he knows it's getting late in the game. >> one quick question, the continued attacks on republicans like governor martinez by donald trump, how is that going to hurt his attempt to do the near impossible, to raise $1 billion in three months? >> he's managed to unite the republican party bec

mitt romney is involved.ster of elites and establishment -- i won't call them behind muchmen or lackies or puppets. but those who seem to be -- there seems to be a great deal of confidence in their thinking with the establishment. i mean, that's a difficult situation, isn't it? >> i think that if this had been a serious candidate. if a real name stepped forward with actual recognition with voters maybe this would and lasting problem for the establishment. but at this point it's spitting into the wind. not only have the voters spoken at this point. but they are floating if the name some of one who wouldn't have a prayer in any scenario whatsoever. so this is likely to be quickly forgotten after we move into the serious business of the general election because this is a last-ditch effort that has zero chance. he wouldn't be able to get on the ballot in any state. the deadlines have passed. lou: the establishment is it's simply the problem that donald trump is going after. millions of americans are disgusted wit

whereas mitt romney it was easier to define him because he was undefined. >> that's true, after yearsf reality tv, in the room with the high back chair, appearing as the boss, i think what hillary clinton is trying to do is put something in voters' minds so coming down the home stretch, one of the key questions they ask in weeks before the election, so and so, the candidate, does he care about somebody like me, and say well, you may like him, you may respect him, like his stance on immigration, does he care about something like you, maybe not so much. that's kind of the argument she's making. also, she's not the first, not outfront with this, not the first to bring up trump university, and these are serious charges, not just the former students that felt defrauded, but in new york the state attorney general is suing him personally, that plus the news organizations adds a different credibility to the charges, not just a back and forth about well, i've got problems and you've got problems and we're calling each other names, those are credible source. >> this isn't the first time it was

you have senator mccain not endorsing and now you have mitt romney. that's tremendous. show the problem within the party, frankly. what governor romney said is important, though. he's focusing most of his time on down ballot races, keeping the senate and the house in republican hands. >> it wouldn't be unexpected a former democratic president wouldn't endorse him. let's face it. anybody who has had the job on the gop side knows what it takes, if they're not endorsing, they're just staying quiet. >> mitt romney is taking a stance. there are a lot of folks in the republican party that feel donald trump is taking it in the complete wrong direction, that in essence he's hijacked the party for his own goals, not that he has the goals of the party at heart. now we're going to see that disruption within the party really take hold. donald trump is having a lot of problems raising money. the rnc is having problems raising money for its convention because donald trump is the nominee. the party will be splintered for loong time to come with donald trump now as its nominee. >> talk