i have a lot of friends who are not patriots fans who say the patriots cheat. look at spygate, the culture inside the patriots organization. i'll ask you flat out, do the patriots cheat? >> i would say no. look at what spygate was. they were filming opposing sidelines and trying to get happened signals, trying to get a competitive edge. did it work? probably a little bit. on a scale of one to ten, it probably worked for about one. when they came out with this there are a lot of other teams that did that. they also videotaped sidelines trying to get the edge. the thing about the patriots, sometimes they push it to the limit. when you look at these things i think a lot of people stop to say stuff. when you're king of the mountain and you've been to five super bowl appearances and headed to your sixth, you've got a massive bullseye on your back. that's what the new england patriots have on them. >> pushing it to the limit is one thing. pushing it beyond the limit is oochlt you said spygate only helped them one on a scale of one to attorney. i heard people say in t

did the patriots cheat? according to our cycle poll on msnbc.com that has more than 3,000 votes so far, most of you say the team knew exactly what was going on. for more let's turn to nbc's peter alexander, who's in the middle of the action in foxboro. peter, what we do know is that brady moved this presser up a full day. what are folks around there including the players making of that? >> it's a good question. we should let you know we just found out within the last matter of moments that this news conference is now more likely to happen at 4:30 than 3:45. we of course will be watching. when we're done talking to you, we're going to walk inside to gillette stadium where they already only have a standing room only crowd. brady was supposed to speak tomorrow, chose to speak today. their hope is they can put this thing to rest. we had a chance to speak to several people who have opinions of this who played within the league including a long-time nfl player i spoke to just moments ago. i'll grab a football quic

>Ó 6í6ze@r >> hillary clinton. >> patriot. patriot. >> his heart is in the right place. don't think his mouth is. >> you know who this is? >> yes that is mitt romney. why did he run for the presidency? i do not know. >> i love scotch. i love scotch. >> so pinhead or patriot. >> you look like you can filibuster for about ten straight hours. >> that's never happened to me before. i must be tired. >> i think he's a patriot. he's standing up for what he believes in. >> not related to tom cruise. >> not related to tom cruise. >> okay. >> i like what the tea party stands for so i'm going patriot. >> is that ted cruz? he's looking chubbier. >> i'm a big fan of eating white castle burgers. who is this? who do you think it is? >> i don't know. i'm not sure. >> who do you think? >> watch your step. >> i need a couple good stiff drinks how about you? >> pinhead or patriot. >> i respect him. >> who is this? >> i have no idea. >> i'm from california so -- >> i'm sorry to hear that. pinhead. >> you'll get no argument from me on that. >> patriot. >> patriot. >> yeah. >> who is he? >> i

they pressurized at 12.5 then the patriots drop by 2 supposed to drop by one and the patriots are outside range and the colts are inside the range. >> so michael holly, to you, i'd like your take on bill belichick's press conference and the fact that he said not once but at least twice, this is the end of this subject for me for a long time. i mean, he says we've done this study. we know that we did nothing wrong. and that's really it. he welcomed the nfl investigation. but i mean, you're a sports commentator. any chance this is the end of it for him, even ahead of the super bowl? >> yeah. i think when he said this is the end of it, those of us who have dealt with him -- rachel knows this very well -- he says he's not going to talk about it. he's very good at giving you one mantra over and over to kind of shut you down and say hey, we're moving on to cincinnati or we're on to seattle or i've told you everything i know what you said earlier in the week at this press conference. i think people need to note history of bill belichick and this commissioner, roger goodell. there's no love lost

we don't know what the patriots did. it's possible that the patriots will say hey, we inflated the game -- the ball to the absolute minimum and then the temperature dropped, maybe dropped it a little bit lower than that. that's why our footballs went under. we don't know whether tom brady is going to come out here and say they did it on purpose or whether it was circumstance. we have to find that out. we can't cast blame right now. but there's no question that the rule is in place for a reason. >> the only reason why i said that is because you said now these games go into question his career goes into question as far as how he uses the football how the football was manipulated. believe me when i tell you, i have caught over 200 footballs and to tell you this it's about the quarterback's preference. the smaller the ball it's not going to travel as far, it's not going to come out as fast it's not going to be more accurate because there's less air in the football. every quarterback has a certain preference. we all know abou

rachel nickels has that story for us. >> reporter: the new england patriot s patriots and the seattlehawks will take the field february 1st in arizona, but as happens all too often with the patriots scandal is brewing. the nfl is investigating allegations that 11 of the 12 footballs that the patriots used in the afc championship win over the indianapolis colts were underinflated which is an advantage since the underinflated pals are easier to catch and grip in bad weather, and sunday can's game was indeed played in bad weather. the underinflated footballs would only have been an advantage to new england since each team provides their own footballs. the footballs are inspected before the game by official and nbc is saying that at that time the footballs met regulations, but by the time they were inspected again at halftime they had reportedly had significantly less air as al allowed by the league rules. if the patriots were found to have let the air out deliberately the team could be fined $25,000 or docked future draft picks. a and the nfl is large areally reserving comment telling cn

all of a sudden he's got his hands on the patriots' football.ier in the season he looked at it and said this doesn't feel right. took it his to his equipment manager. they came into this game on sunday thinking maybe something more is going on here. maybe they've been cooking the books all season. and that opens the door wow, how much have the patriots been cheating. and it's disappointing. they're a great team. they dope need to cheat. >> that's one -- they don't need to cheat. >> that's one of the other points. we've seen allegations of cheating actual cheating in many of the world's biggest sports. viewers, fans of european-style football certainly are used to this. for lifelong fans of the patriots specifically like our own john berman for example, they say they are ashamed, they are angry because of all of this. but do you think that the end of the day this will be forgettable? >> reporter: if the allegations are proved true and we have to keep saying that we don't know where we are in the investigation, it's not over. won't be forgotten. 2

fine the patriots? sure. take a draft choice? i don't think so. >> what if he doesn't come out with the explanation? >> they are going to have to find out how this occurred. >> he can't go out and say i laughed this off. the truth is i manipulated the balls. he's going to say a variation of what mike just said. >> and are we confident ha the nfl can get to the bottom of this? it would seem transparent. someone knows who is in charge of inflating or deflating the footballs. >> well, they have a fairly easy investigateive job. almost as easy as the ray rice investigation they blew. the officials look at the balls approve the balls, and then there's a two-hour time lapse from the time they look at the balls and the time the game begins. the balls are then in one specific place out on the field, near the instant replay cameras. and it's almost impossible i would think, in terms of eyesight alone for the ball boys to be running along and having the air come out. we got to find out. >> maybe they tape thumb tacks to their hands. >> tha

>> reporter: the league is investigating whether footballs used by the patriots were underinflated.uld make them easier to catch and hold especially in bad weather? >> if something is noticed, it's not unheard of for a ball to be removed from circulation and then tested during the week for whatever issue there was. >> reporter: patriots quarterback tom brady is not worried. >> i think i heard it all at this point. oh, god, that's the last of my worries. how do you respond to stuff like this? >> reporter: his coachle bill belly check told the reporter the allegation is news to him. >> the patriots deflated footballs? >> that was the first time i heard this morning. >> reporter: belly check and patriots are no strangers to questionable play. in 2007 the team videotaped the new york jets side line hand signals. the team was heavily fined annual lost a 1st round draft pick. there is no word on when the nfl might complete its investigation. the patriots will next tackle the seattle seahawks if super bowl xxxxix on february 1st. >>> lindsey vonn is now the most decorated world cup skier f

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one of the best patriots coaches of all time at the patriots could this be the last game that he coaches? investigation is important in this case. do i in of us have faith in the nfl investigations anymore? did the the ray rice investigation tell us anything other than they blew it from the get-go? what does an investigation do for us with the nfl? it makes them look like they are trying to be impartial. i'm not sure the american public is buying it. >> yeah. and i think the nfl already has a bit of a credibility issue after the ray rice incident so, they are really, i don't think they are convincing anybody. chip and liz, stay with us, we're going to bring you right back. straight ahead, what are investigators actually looking for like liz just mentioned? and could it impact the super bowl bound patriots? "on the record" investigate that up next. plus remember that modern day bonnie and clyde a pair of teenagers going on a crime spree across the south. tonight, you will hear from them for the very first time right here "on the record." >>> the only thing can i tell you for years it has

in 2008 and 2012 also former new england patriots receiver donte stallworth who played on both patriot teams that lost to the giants. we appreciate you boast of you being with us and anxious to hear what you have to say. dante, let's hear from you. you know bill belichick and were there for the 2008 spy scandal where it was found the new england patriots had taped the new york job sideline issue. does it bother you that your former team is embroiled in another controversy and what's your reaction to what coach belichick said? >> i think everyone outside of the fan base of the new england patriots looks at the new england patriots as the evil empire so they would probably love nothing more than to catch tom brady on a videotape deflating footballs, and to make a couple of points of belichick's press conference. people -- people are reading into it a little too much. he always first all, he's always that way, anyone who covers him know that that's the typical way he answers questions. but number two i think that he -- he wasn't really throwing trade under the bus. what he said specifical

did the patriots cheat? >> i really don't know what to say or know anything about what we're talking about here. >> thursday morning quarterbacking as we hear from bill belichick this morning. let's talk. live in the "cnn newsroom." >>> and good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. we begin this hour with the rampant spread of terrorism. world leaders scrambling to contain it. secretary of state john kerry speaking later this morning. he's now in london leading a coalition of 20 nations uniting to combat isis. the terror group forging a new front in its war on the west. isis is gaining ground and recruiting new killers in yemen as the critical u.s. ally spirals deeper into chaos. >>> americans on edge in yemen's capital. u.s. troops on alert. they're awaiting orders to evacuate the embassy and there's growing fear that time is running out. >>> the rise of isis is creating a power struggle of sorts in the region as al qaeda and its loyalists control more territory and more recruits.

the patriots denied the accusations.oach bill belichick brought the science to back it up. >> we all know air pressure is a function of the atmospheric conditions. (laughter) >> jon: yeah! i guess the question would be, though but for only one team? >> it's similar to the concept of when you get into your car and the light comes on and it says low tire pressure because the car's been sitting in the driveway outside overnight, the atmospheric conditions as well as the true equilibrium of the ball is critical to the measurement. >> jon: this concludes the first episode of professor belichick's madeup (bleep) 101. up next, the specific gravity of toin coughs! not the two-headed coin we have. (laughter) but if coach bill belichick is not culprit perhaps we need to look no further than luke sky tosser, handsome mcgurk. >> i didn't alter the ball in any way. before every game i go in and pick the footballs i want to use for the game. i don't want anyone touching the balls after that. i don't want anyone rubbing them, you know,

how did the patriots escape?they had some rust from being off, i think, but you can't say enough about tom brady. being down 14 points with really no running game, it was all on him. he played great in the second half. >> i look at bill belichick and what he's done with his coaching staff. this is a mentally tough football team. you talk about situational football. it's no surprise to me during the waning minutes. game they come up with big plays. >> joe flacco was on fire early. overall 28 of 45, nearly 300 yards. four touchdowns, a couple of interceptions. take us to the fourth quarter and new england's comeback. >> well, it started off, they got in the no-huddle, up tempo. and in the third quarter, they really got going. rodney, you called this play when we were watching it. >> yeah, tom brady recognized the safety blitz and he raised his hand and you know it's one-on-one coverage and you know exactly where he's going, coach. >> and danny amendola came up huge. these plays don't look like a lot, but this, brea

they don't want to say it is patriots cheat.is difficult to focus because everyone is asking them about it. they are doing a good job of not taking the bait. >> we'll see how the next week plays out and i am sure we'll talk to you again, dan kaplan. >> it didn't affect the colt balls. >> and julie bandaras is up next. >> thanks for joining us. rrn card. it lets you earn cash back when you buy and again as you pay. that's cash back twice. it's cash back with a side of cash back. the citi double cash card. the only card that lets you earn cash back twice on every purchase with 1% when you buy and 1% as you pay . with two ways to earn, it makes a lot of other cards seem one-sided. hello... i'm an idaho potato farmer and our big idaho potato truck is still missing. so my buddy here is going to help me find it. here we go. woo who, woah, woah, woah. it's out there somewhere spreading the word about america's favorite potatoes: heart healthy idaho potatoes and the american heart association's go red for women campaign. if you see it i

huge patriots fan.h the story as she opined in her production meeting. >> here's the thing. there should be a rule. it's footballs. stop saying balls, balls, balls, like the number of times the word balls has been said on tv like the innuendo is like -- it's just footballs. crafted with two ristretto shots for bolder caramel-ly espresso. whole milk... steamed to a sweet velvety microfoam delicately poured, so the espresso rises to the top. the perfect union of bold and sweet. simplicity is its own artistry. i take prilosec otc each morning for my frequent heartburn. because it gives me... zero heartburn! prilosec otc. the number 1 doctor-recommended frequent heartburn medicine for 9 straight years. one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. >>> back now to foxborough, massachusetts, and a defiant bill belichick in the wake of a growing scandal ahead of next week's super bowl, super bowl 49 xlix. you can catch it on nbc, by the way. we heard from the 40 year nfl veteran who said he was, quote, shoc

then the fate of former patriots star aaron hernandez.g not fame but a jury in a massachusetts courtroom. >> you orchestrated participated in the killing, covered up the killing -- >> reporter: prosecutors say hernandez, pro bowl tight end who'd recently signed a $40 million contract threw it all away when he and two friends picked up an acquaintance a journeyman semi pro football player, at his home in boston in june 2013 drove lloyd to an industrial park, and participated in his murder. when prosecutors showed jurors pictures of the victim's body found a half mile from hernandez's home the mother rushed from the courtroom in tears.defense's argument their client is a victim. >> the police and the prosecutors targeted aaron from the very beginning. as soon as they found out that aaron hernandez was a friend of oudin lloyd's, aaron never had a chance. >> reporter: all part of a celebrity defense of sorts. the defense arguing, why would a young man with wealth and fame throw it all away? >> aaron hernandez was planning a future not a murde

patriots organization. just to get the sense of comparison from other teams. how they handle their footballs and procedures. now, tom brady said that nobody has talked to him yet which raised a lot of eyebrows. in fact there's no plan on the patriots who said anyone talked to him yet. wonder when investigators get to the patriots players. that remains to be seen. >> and when you say the refs did test the balls, not just holding them squeezing them it's actually -- >> there's an air gauge they use. there's an official procedure for it and there was a question of gee, did they really do it? the nfl came out today and said yes, they did. >> right. so now the nfl issued their statement, the patriots, he issued a statement as well. >> he said the patriots will show transparency completely cooperate with the investigation and it's interesting too that the nfl revealed exactly what the investigation will entail and that it will not only be an nfl investigator they hired an outside forensic company that specializes

it's not just the patriots. it's him. he is the patriots.ink you probably should shoulder a bit more of that responsibility. >> you have to assume something nefarious went on or it was deliberately -- deflating going on here. it's clear to me all of this goes back now to giselle bundchen. his wife. do you think people are going to overplay this and assign motives to this that might not exist? >> ultimately, no, only because the game was such a blowout and really didn't make any difference in whether the pate reyots s patriots got to the super bowl or not. what i think tom should have done, tom brady should have done is as the quarterback, he's the leader of this team. he's someone who is the signature player for the patriots. i think he has to shoulder a little bit more of that, you know, i just did my job and that's all i can do. i agree that's all they can do. that's not all they can do now. he should say, look i'm concerned about the integrity of the game, i'm concerned about my integrity, the integrity of the patriots and aislei'm going

by this time the patriots were already winning by 10 points. >> the patriots were going to win that footballer football team. i don't believe the conditions of the footballs affected the outcome of that game whatsoever. >> reporter: but former nfl quarterback mark brunell says there are significant advantages to using a deflated ball. >> it really comes down to the grip of the football. with a deflated football it's easier to dig your fingers into the football. it's easier to dig your hand into the football and simply hold on to it. >> reporter: sources revealing to espn the balls were underinflated two pounds per square inch less than league standards, making them easier to grasp and catch. so what about the colts player who says i caught this during an interception, i ran with it, and i noticed something was wrong with the ball? >> i think it would be hard to do. maybe someone with that much strength and grip on the ball there's a possibility. but the difference is minimal. >> i would find it hard to believe that the officials in measuring the footballs measured them incorrectly. >> report

the 12 balls to be used by the patriots and the colts. the video shows the employee in the bathroom for approximately 90 seconds. the question could the employee have deflated 11 of 12 balls in a minute and a half? two days before this report bill belichick reported that the drop in pressure was due to rubbing process, along with atmospheric conditions. that rep was knocked down by wilson sporting goods, who said that's bs that's bs man. and by bill nighe the science guy who said bill belichick's quote did not make sense. that has not stopped prominent conservatives from rushing to the patriots' defense. here's rupert murdoch, tweeting quote, ridiculous charges against patriots a great team by any standards with tough leadership standards. >> and here's another. it appears that deflate gate won't hurt the patriots at least not before sunday's super bowl. and the seattle seahawks who will be lining up against tom brady and the patriots thinks he knows why. it has to do with the relationship between nfl commissioner roger goodell and patrio

the patriots typically beat those other 31 teams on a regular basis.uld expect them as fans to not be happy about that. unfortunately, you know tom brady is the target of all of this i guess fan hatred because of what bill belichick did with spy gate but, again, i've never seen anything dirty or cheating going on in the patriots locker room. >> what about what troy aikman said? he said that brady had to know. he's handled footballs for, what since he was a child. he would notice a difference. >> there are other quarterbacks who came out in support of tom brady. now manipulating the footballs, buffing the footballs, polishing the footballs has always been a part of preparing the game for every quarterback so perhaps, you know tom was aware of the treatment of the balls, how they get to be polished up to his standards but, you know i doubt that tom would purposefully ask the ball boys to under inflate the footballs. >> okay. let's talk about bill belichick because you played under him as well. do you believe him when he says i don't even know how the pro

he answered like a true patriot. >> i flaid in the nfl for 13 years. if you paid me an extra million dollars i could not tell if the ball has less air or more air. >> reporter: what does it say that they found 11 out of the 12 because balles were two pounds low? >> when i woke up this morning i saw that, i was like three or four, they could live with that. 11 means okay, what's really going on? >> reporter: well, belichick has a pretoria super bowl news conference planned for it were morning, scott. he's usually pretty tight-lip at these things but he will undoubtedly be facing a lot of questions about all of this. >> pelley: anna werner at the stadium in fox borrow. thank you ana.mb and we will be right back. because hydraulic fracturing technology is safely recovering lots more oil and natural gas. supporting millions of new jobs. billions in tax revenue... and a new century of american energy security. the new energy superpower? it's red, white and blue. log on to learn more. the world is filled with air. but for people with copd sometimes breathing

so argued the never effusive patriots coach bill belichick.ere is another guy -- a scientist. >> you need one of these, the inflation needle. >> but maybe there is an argument here. his unspoken logic leading to detail of a patriots life one week ago. so bill belichick said their test started indoors, the feel tom brady likes. and rubbing with hands, with a body temperature of 98.6 degrees. and perhaps heat temperature transfers. and then the ball goes outside where last sunday the temperatures were in the mid 30s. that causes the ball's team to drop 60 degrees. >> the true equilibrium of the ball -- >> the tire companies say for every ten degrees expect a 2% change in the tire. but the problem is it is the patriots did the study, leaving us on this monday before the super bowl with at least six ways to sunday. richard louie, msnbc, new york. >> thank you, richard, louie. it is a pleasure to say we have to talk with us -- deflate-gate bill nye the science guy and sports fanatic, jordan schultz. bill nye, i have to start with you. the explanati

so, if the patriots didn't do it, who did? what are people supposed to believe, that the footballs just magically deflated on their own? >> i don't know, they'll believe whatever they want to believe. >> reporter: the nfl has disciplined the patriots before. some asking the league to blow the whistle harder this time, sending a message. does this team want resolution from the nfl, no matter what that may be? >> i have no idea. like i said, i don't know how this is going to go. >> reporter: how do you make deflate-gate go away? you're walking away? >> yeah. >> reporter: here at nfl headquarters the league will review evidence over the next few days. and it will most likely go into super bowl. and the patriots are ready to move on. >>> and a new warning about a potential danger in luggage, telling e-smokers not to pack their ecigarettes on the plane. >>> and another disturbing headline about what was nearly brought on hundreds of passenger planes. more than 2,200 weapons, most of them loaded. here's steve osunsami. >> reporter:

i don't know if they want to throw the book at the patriots and the patriots say, oh, really? because other teams are doing this, other teams are doing that. and get a grasp of how many other teams are doing this. personally i think they should announce something friday afternoon. by the time early next week starts, we can talk about it for a couple of days. but maybe by wednesday, the focus will be on the game. i would do it friday afternoon if i was the nfl. that's usually when they like to break the bad news. >> hines, have you ever heard of something like this? ross brings up a good point. it looks like at the collegiate level they were doing something like this. is this something they talked about in your nfl career? >> not at all. it's usually about the quarterback. he touches the quarterback every play. he's the guy. he has to have a good feel of the football while he's in the pocket and throwing the passes. but i look at a distraction. this is that week that you have to really put in your game plan, and really get the true preparation that you need. when you go down to

patriots. >> okay!you. >> our last participant will be a berry -- very fast dog. >> so three to two right now is that what it is? >> yes, if you include the actors, should we. >> yes. >> i was feeling bad for the patriots. >> we will slow awe video playing this music video, kind of niles. that's his daughter. trading-in or selling your car truck or suv? webuyanycar.com takes the hassle out of selling in just 3 easy steps. one, get your free online valuation. two, book an appointment. and three, pick up a check at your nearest buying center. ♪ find out how much your car is worth ♪ ♪ at webuyanycar.com ♪ >> low is going to win seahawks or patriots. i believe the see lakes are in the lead with three to two. now to one of our producers here megan she brought the dog n the dog's name is mick. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> this should happen fairly quickly because this dog is fast. >> he's very fast. >> how old he? >> about year and a half. >> so you'll take the dog treats down to the other end? >>

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, you're still paying him and robert kraft who owns the patriots is still paying you. so even when you do everything right in within of those situations, it opens you guys up to a credibility gap with some of the public and even some of your most high profile players. what steps can you guys take in the future to mitigate some of those conflict of interest issues? >> well, rachel, i don't agree with you on a lot of the assumptions you make in your question. i think we have had people that have uncompromising integrity. robert muller is an example. i think you asked me the same question last fall about a conflict of interest. their integrity is impeccable. ted wells' integrity is impeccable. these are professionals. they bring in outside expertise, an outside perspective. and their conclusions are drawn only by the evidence and only by the attempt to try to identify that truth. so i think we have done an excellent job of bringing outside consultants in. somebody has to pay them, rachel. so unless you're volunteering, which i don't think you are, we will do that. but we

you know is this strike three for the patriots?u've got spy gate this and then the filming of the walk crew before the super bowl in 2007 so repeat offenders are disciplined generally stronger than first time offenders and it's going to be interesting to see what the league does. >> mike what sort of discipline would there be? draft picks? >> yeah. i mean to me you're going to look at certainly the possibility of draft picks and of course a substantial amount of money and the question is going to be what do you do in preparation for this coming super bowl so this doesn't happen again. we have a kicking ball coordinator that now handles all the kicking balls. maybe now, you're going to have alternate officials that are going to handle all the other balls. people have said shouldn't the officials have caught this when they brought in a new ball? felt the difference that it wasn't inflated properly and i said these guys in stripes don't shop in the produce store every day and squeeze avocados to see if they're ripe. a 2 pound pressure

okay, katie, i'll start with you. >> patriots woman!ist other big patriots fan. if you saw tom brady dedeflating the balls before the super bowl, would you report it before the game, after the game or not at all? ( laughter ) >> the error is in the question because i'm not really a journalist. if i were a journalist-- ( booing ) if i were a journalist-- wait wait. >> larry: 92 late. >> i would do it before. >> larry: too late. okay, jake your turn. you work at cnn now but you used to work at abc. >> correct. >> larry: which one keeps it 70 more abc or cnn? i'm assuming they both keep it 70. which one keeps it 70 better? or more? who is doing a better job at keeping it 70? >> compared to being 100 or compared to being 50. >> cnn is the better one. >> larry: hois keeping it 70. >> keeping it realer is cnn ( booing ). >> larry: we won't give you a sticker because maybe the question isn't good. we'll let him off. i'll admit-- the question is unclear. okay. i want to get to-- seton,. >> yes sir. >> redskins team name, is it-- a lot of people

patriots would have won that game.ot take away fuel for the fire for people that think the patriots have always been looking for unfair advantage. they keep doing these things to themselves in terms of their reputation and in terms of legacy of what should be regarded as one of the best nfl teams ever. they have no one to blame for that but themselves. >> there are so many questions unanswered in this whole thing. if hit comes to be that they purposefully cheated with these deflated balls, what do you think the punishment should be? >> well, the nfl i think should take it pretty seriously. i think they should take it seriously, not because it meant they won that game, but because the patriots have been in trouble before. >> what does seriously mean keith? >> i mean look at what happened in spy gate. a $500,000 fine for the coach and a loss of draft picks. you go from there. roger goodell talks about repeat offenders. if you already had an offense for cheating you have to expect roger goodell and league office would go

and growing pats it's kind of like a patriots mash-up video. the perfect comic relief amist deflate gate and it includes photos of players and the coach. >> some of the world's most beautiful women get ready to battle on sunday. we're going to tell you about that. plus, the president goes head to head with some of youtube's personalities. >> we had one important change that happened overnight. i'll bring you the details coming up. ♪searching with devotion♪ ♪for a snack that had di i . >>> welcome back. let's talk snow. not for today, the timing is very close for the d.c. area after the evening rush hour for some sleet to move in. here's where the storm is now, down here to the south of louisiana. this is a fast-moving system. it can't produce a lot of heavy snow. it's just moving too quickly. it's moved up the timeline a little bit. a lot of people are going to have to wake up and shovel instead of watching it falling. winter addviseoryies around boston. this is a front-end dutch for a lot of areas. that means you get a lot of heavy snow for th

is this strike three for the patriots?pygate and you have this and then the filming of the walk-through before the super bowl in 2007, and so, repeat offendres are disciplined generally stronger than first-time the offender, and it is going to be interesting to see what the league does. >> yeah mike what sort of discipline would there be? draft picks? >> well i mean -- yeah. i mean i think that yeah, to me you are going to look at certainly the possibility of draft picks and of course a substantial amount of money, and then the question is what do you do in preparation for the coming super bowl so that it does not happen again. we have a kicking ball coordinator that now handles all of the kicking ball, and maybe now you are going to be having alternate officials who will handle all of the balls, and shouldn't the officials have caught it when they brought in a new ball and felt it to see the difference that it was not inflated properly and i they the guys in stripes don't shop everyday to squeeze the cantaloupes to figure

s patriots did anything wrong and who on the patriots may have made the mistake.rady says he doesn't believe that he is a cheater, i'm not as critical, because i believe that he is saying that maybe somebody else on the team may have done something wrong, and perhaps guilt by association for him. so i want to give him the benefit of the doubt, and there are many saying that they don't believe him. i'm not a former quarterback so i can't speak to what it is to be in the huddle and whether or not a quarterback would detect that and then have a duty to report that the ball doesn't seem as heavy. to me a lot of question and it is too early to pin the blame on anybody. >> but the reputation is important to him? >> oh no question. absolutely. this is a player, don, that we know that has asked political aspirations after his patriot's career end ss. this is somebody who many expect will run for the senate one day, and you know some have said well look other players have gotten into trouble and become broadcasters like ray lewis or perhap, but tom brady has a different go

the patriots won 35-31.if it wasn't for that second-quarter interception by d'qwell jackson in the colts/patriots game we might not even have deflategate, because he's the one who went to the sideline and said -- you know he's a linebacker. he caught the ball and even he knew this doesn't feel right. my question is where are the officials? they're handling the balls every down different balls for the colts and patriots and couldn't tell there was a difference in the ones the patriots were using. >> i appreciate you trying to shift some of the blame there, andy to make it easier for me to suggest that the refs were somehow incomplicit. if the patriots took air out of the balls, it is shameful. it just is. it's shameful it's wrong, it's against the rules. >> why even risk it? i mean you're talking about the road to the super bowl. why even risk it? >> they could have beaten the colts using balls made of marshmallow fluff, okay? that only makes it worse. that only makes the cheating worse. >> and this on top of

patriots were dominant.hem go up against a tough team in the seahawks in the super bowl in a couple weeks in arizona. >> whether it would have helped or not, cheating is wrong period. if it turns out someone did, the nfl will have to say something and soon. coy wire great to have you with us. really appreciate it. >> coming up next the question about the state of the union address. in the state of the union address, is taunting allowed? >> i have no more campaigns to run. my only agenda -- [ applause ] -- i know because i won both of them. >> president clearly on offense next. before larry instantly transferred money from his bank of america savings account to his merrill edge retirement account. before he opened his first hot chocolate stand calling winter an "underserved season". and before he quit his friend's leaf-raking business for "not offering a 401k." larry knew the importance of preparing for retirement. that's why when the time came he counted on merrill edge to streamline his investing and help h