i was john f kennedy campaign here in 1960 against richard nixon. and so the the old road to me it's the old royal hotel has a very significant place in our history. you talked about ford being gerald ford being an insurgent. he certainly was when he asserted his ambition to leadership in the republican caucus. well, you get it. ford arrived in washington. the only word is liberal. he was a liberal republican. he had a strong civil rights record. he supported much of the truman program, not the domestic program, but he was strong. for example, the korean war, a real champion of naito and the like. the united nations. at one point, i'll bet you this is new was news to me. gerald ford was one of i believe it was 88 members of the house of representatives who signed a petition for government of world federalism. and as i say in the book, might as well have suggested esperanto was a language for the united states. needless to say, he outgrew that level of internationalism. but yeah, i mean, he well, the insurgency. in 1965, the republican party had surv

the reason richard nixon had 3700 hours a voice activated tape, nixon thought he could beat winston churchillgreat richard nixon. we see donald trump refusing to return documents the national archives because he was going to use them for his own personal profit. and that's what nailed both of them. in addition to the similarities, what you are mentioning, the erasing of the tape, this idea of getting rid of a videotape at mar-a-lago, very similar, it's called the cover-up. and that's what the whole watergate story is. nixon looks better, at least nixon had a sense of american identity. he was a statesman, somebody who had a sense of civics. if not ethics. trump has no sense of civics. zero character where nixon had flashes of character at certain moments in time. >> trump may be facing a third criminal indictment, this would be yet another unprecedented political situation, what's the best way to historically contextualize all of this? >> donald trump is an outlaw persona figure. he despises the institutions of the federal government. if he had his choice, he would abolish the fbi, the irs on

i don't want to rehabilitate richard nixon, but nixon did the right thing. he resigned. and fought impeachment it would destroy the republican party for a generation. it would do damage to the united states. there is no sign that nixon ever would have gone around willy-nilly showing people top security clearance documents like donald trump did, contingency plans for wars or anything like this. so nixon is the only person i know that is coming out better because of these recent applications this week. but remember, it wasn't just nixon's case. it was the racing of the tapes. rosemary, secretary, erased 13 and a half minutes and we saw donald trump trying to -- with videotape. >> the tapes is the theme. it's record richard nixon and, trump exact comparison for the reasons you outlined, you have compared trump, or said he fix fits into the american narrative of some outlaw folk heroes like billy the kid. lay that out for us. >> trump really is a gangster. he is like a mafioso. those are the people he grew up with, roy cohen was his lawyer. he would deal with him 15 or 20 ti

the longtime secretary of richard nixon. became her career with nixon in 1950, went long before his time with the white house. she was so close to the family the nixon's daughters referred to her as aunt rose. in 1974, route woods was thrust into the national spotlight during the watergate scandal when investigators discovered a mysterious 18 and a half gap on one of the tapes handed over from the nixon white house. the tape was believed to contain a conversation between president nixon and his chief of staff three days after the watergate break-in. woods took responsibility for that gap. she tried to explain it away as an accident. as she tells, it she was simply transcribing the tape at her desk when the phone rang. as she reached for the phone, she mistakenly struck the wrong key on the recorder while her foot was on the machines pedal. the motion ended up somehow destroying the tapes content. she was later asked to demonstrate that stretch, resulting in this now infamous photo. not many people bought her story, and it's l

donald trump isn't just another richard nixon, he's nixon on steroids. let's bring in my panel, renato mariotti, a former federal prosecutor and legal affairs columnist at politico, but charles blow and michelle goldberg we, both are msnbc political analysts. it's great to have you with us. renato, let me start with just the basics of what we saw this week. how common or superseding indictments, and what are these new charges if anything, as well as the addition of this third defendant? tell us about the scope of jackson's case here, and if it is, and in what direction, it is expanding. >> well, they're not uncommon, but i think most cases don't -- i think jack smith is continuing his investigation, and he's made it determination that he wants to have a strong as was bookcase. he means that he is not going to race to the finish line, even if it might cause a little bit of a delay. he wants to have the strongest -- a number of things. first of all, a town involving the actual document that trump was waving around, trump claimed it was a newspaper, it was

the court led by a chief justice, appointed by richard nixon, in a unanimous opinion ordered richard nixon to hand over audiotapes that destroyed the nixon presidency and forced richard nixon to resign the presidency. in 1973, a republican dominated supreme court delivered the opinion in roe v. wade that allowed every pregnant woman in america to decide whether to carry that pregnancy. and so my faith in the supreme court remained strong no matter who was president. and then came senator mitch mcconnell and donald trump who delegitimized the supreme court in a way that had been unthinkable until 2016 when hearing for president obama's last appointee to the supreme court, merrick garland. by forcing that supreme court seat to remain open for a year, donald trump was able to name neil gorsuch to the supreme court. so whenever you say the name gorsuch on a supreme court opinion you should be seeing the name garland. the word gorsuch is an illegitimate presidents in the supreme court decisions. and takes its place in those opinions only through the corruption of the supreme court confirma

i believe that gerald ford pardoning of richard nixon was a big message to donald trump that the presidency. gerald ford said nixon had suffered enough. the country cannot withstand the ordeal of seeing a former president go to prison. my feeling is, if the board had insisted on an indictment, at least nixon would've gotten fingerprinted and was indicted, and at least want to trial i think there's a possibility that trump would have not been so eager to test the limits of penalties for driving too much power and breaking the law. >> ford may have won the election in 76. the other aspect, i will get your thoughts on, it the aids. seemingly ancillary players. they actually are important figures in how this narrative plays itself out. like nixon, these aides face charges. what does the experience from the aids that were around nixon who got in trouble went to jail say about what could potentially happen with nauta and delight libre here in the trump case. >> well, trump as we know is no student of history. i don't think he's read a history book ever. maybe he seen documentaries or cartoons. wh

finally, richard nixon, by far his close this friend among the presidents. but as hoover started to get old and it defies some of what nixon wanted him to do, there are some funny moments where hoover says, that is illegal. j edgar hoover is the civil libertarian there. there is a moment where nixon sits down with hoover and says, edgar, you are in your mid-70's wouldn't it be fun to go? and it nixon says, ok and kind of gives in to hoover. who is more powerful the fbi director or the president? >> the fbi headquarters is the j edgar hoover building still today. what was his reputation among agents? >> i think the agents really respected hoover. he built the institution in his own image. really in the early years especially, hand selected agents that represented him and his views, a very particular image. when we think of an fbi agent or a g-man, there are very specific ideas about who that is. will it be a tall white guy in a suit with a hat and shiny shoes and a certain set of political views. during his lifetime, i do not think agents loved him. he was a h

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why richard nixon is once again in conversation.ing about our planet and our climate. daily records adding up to a red alert. >> the federal courts have uncovered a bizarre system of handling the tape recordings of the presidents meetings and phone calls. carelessly stored and checked in and out in strange fashion. >> it's not the crime, it's the cover-up. that report from 1973 talking about the watergate scandal could easily describe donald trump's alleged activity at mar-a-lago. prosecutors now saying that trump wanted to delete security video at about the watergate scandal could easily describe donald trump's alleged activity at mar-a-lago. prosecutors now saying that trump wanted to delete security video at age is just a number, and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv ♪♪ when you have chronic kidney disease... there are places you'd like to be.

this is precisely what richard nixon did. he compiled an enemy list that included larry o'brien and had the irs audit him. directed the irs to audit him. larry o'brien was also subject of what happened in watergate. richard nixon stopped at nothing to uncover whatever he could and to create whatever damage he could on those people. donald trump has done exactly the same thing. we don't know what happened this terms of the audits of page and strazk. we do know what happened with james comey and his deputy mccabe were both audited. the odds of those two people being audited out of all the people audited by the irs is almost impossible. there was an investigation that was supposedly done by the inspector general for the irs presented to the house committee on the finances and tax and claimed they could not find any such evidence. the fact remains, unlike what we did in watergate where we put people into the grand jury and followed the trail from nixon to the irs and could show what happened, that wasn't done here. there was no d

richard nixon he didn't want, but his first epa head, william ruckelshaus stood up really strong and told nixon, you me had ap. i looked at all this stuff and we can't use it anymore. and nixon said that he was really livid about it. nixon to be honest, to be fair, he did it. he was angry because i'm going to lose the ranchers, you know, i'm going to lose the you. his worry politically with the cost one his side but he did it. nixon and after that revolution kicks in and the big key for kennedy had picked command stuart udall as secretary of interior, our finest during these years we get things like canyonlands national park created in utah big battle, the north cascades in washington state national park, california, ground zero. in my book on a lot of this stuff for example the battle of bodega bay i don't know how you care or think about nuclear power because it depends on my mood sometimes but in i understand that the complications of all of that with anything nuclear but i will tell you what shot it down really it was that the pacific your electric pacific you're the california el

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she was a loyal secretary to president richard nixon, who claim to have accidentally erased part of ane gap in secret white house record executive implicated nixon having knowledge of the infamous watergate break-in. fast forward to present day, this week, we learned trump is now facing new charges in the mar-a-lago investigation. that he allegedly asked a staffer to delete surveillance footage in order to obstruct the government's investigation. on thursday, i spoke with former watergate prosecutor, nick ackerman, who drew a parallel from nixon to trump's current legal mess. >> this is exactly what richard nixon had his secretary do. rosemary woods, with the 18 minute gap in the tape! i mean the most important tape that was going to be turned over to her office at the time! she just happened to hit the pedal at the wrong point to delete that portion of the tape! this is exactly watergate all over again in steroids. >> joining me now, eddie glug, junior, james-esque macdonnell, distinguished university professor at princeton university and msnbc political analyst. eddie, what this supe

these were, uh, the thoughts of richard nixon and well thought out, in general i'm telling you this.ught it was a great performance. and in general, a few people. uh, in the hall. it's very much approved, well much to the surprise of a few others. i was told that they were generally outraged. that it is he who comes and the well-fed united states of god damn it. and where empty shelves cannot build a normal democracy, where are the people? like i said, one of them is trash. and instead of talking. learn from us we support you you just have to understand your imperfection. how did you get to such a life, and instead he says, go in some incomprehensible way of your own. if russia has such an elite, then it is very difficult to do what alexander just said, it’s true, it’s true, and in general, nixon was an outstanding president, and of course, i didn’t know him that closely, but so, apparently, in my hierarchy. it costs. well , as if at the level of john f. kennedy , you know the russian elite somewhere even better. i know better. yes, there is still such an elite that came, then she's

but what's even more interesting is that the former us post president richard nixon has sent a letter to former president bill clinton, in which he has learned about this whole situation years before in 1994. let's take a look. i think you will agree up to the mission of witchcraft, shoot the situation. ukraine is harley explosive. if we allow it to get out of control, it will make boston. it looked like a tea party. it is understandable that all emphasis was on the issue of nuclear weapons, which should concentrate on what could leads to the use of these weapons. now the united states keeps on promising more and more arms being sent to ukraine and no matter the consequences even if it comes on the best of its own.

but what's even more interesting is that the former us prose president richard nixon, has sent a letter to former president bill clinton, in which he has warned about this whole situation years before in 1994. i think you will agree up to the mention of witchcraft shoot this situation. ukraine is harley explosive. if we allow it to get out of control, it will make boston. it looked like a tea party. it is understandable that all emphasis was on the issue of nuclear weapons. we should concentrate on what could leads to the use of these weapons. the united states keeps on promising more and more arms being sent to ukraine and no matter of the consequences even if it comes on the best of its own civilians. but it would be very interesting to see how this will turn out when it comes to the upcoming us elections in 2024. and despite western analysts warning against dragon, this conflict even further, it seems like all of this does not really matter to the white house. the 2nd, russia, i forget, some is where they shouldn't said economic and social agendas for the coming years . we'll take of

the next day, richard nixon went on television and announced he was going to resign.ess today and then. >> stephen: can i -- [applause] i remember it. august 8, august 9 was the resignation. 1974. can i suggest another difference is that nixon on these tapes in secret -- there were secret recordings of him admitting to be part of these crimes where is the former president, the tapes aren't secret. he set it out loud in front of everybody multiple times and for years leading up to the event that he wouldn't accept the results. is there something about the shamelessness of that that prevents the members of his party from doing the right thing in public, when they are secretly hoping the right thing happens? >> bob: there is something intervening here. it is called the constitution and the law. >> stephen: i have heard about these things. >> bob: you've heard about these things. sometimes you think trump has not because they are very, very clear that there are certain obligations. for instance, the day before january 6th, and on january 6, trump talks to pence, his vice

but in 1994, a letter address to then president bill clinton from former you as president richard nixon. he has warned in this letter about this whole situation years prior list. take a look. i think you will agree up to the mission of witchcraft, shoot the situation. ukraine is harley explosive. if we allow it to get out of control, it will make boston. it looked like a tea party. it is understandable that all emphasis was on the issue of nuclear weapons, which should concentrate on what could leads to the use of these weapons. now the us keeps on promising more and more middle military a to creating a matter of the consequences, even if it's a big expense of its own citizens. but it would be very interesting to see how this will turn out, especially considering the upcoming 2024 u. s. elections. and despite western analysts warning that the about the dragon of this conflict, it looks like all of this has no value for the white house. are to correspond to my, my a char with the latest. thank you. the in the run up to the 2nd rush to africa summit, we sat down with the people continuing

but what's even more interesting is that the former us post president richard nixon has sent a letter to former president bill clinton, in which he has warned about this whole situation years before in 1994. let's take a look. i think you will agree up to the mention of witchcraft shoot this situation . ukraine is harley explosive. if we allow it to get out of control, it will make boston. it looked like a tea party. it is understandable that all emphasis was on the issue of nuclear weapons, which should concentrate on what could leads to the use of these weapons. the united states keeps on promising more and more arms being sent to ukraine and no matter the consequences even if it comes on the best of its own civilians. but it would be very interesting to see how this will turn out when it comes to the upcoming us elections in 2024. and despite western analysts warning against dragon, this conflict even further, it seems like all of this does not really matter to the white house. the 2nd russia, africa summit is an international event where both nations a set it can all make on socia

this is really mirroring exactly what richard nixon did through his secretary rosemary woods where she deleted 18 minutes of a critical tape that was turned over to our office. this is one of the oval office tapes, and famously known as the 18-minute gap. richard nixon was successful in doing that, and according to this indictment, trump was not successful. they tried, but they couldn't find anybody who knew how to delete the server. >> and jim, let me bring you into the conversation, and what is it like on trump's defense team, because they were not expecting this, and so what is the mood like today? >> look, i think that the most significant piece coming out of this is that 30-second document that they discovered and how they got it. we are not sure how the government obtained that document. what is important about that document is that they didn't have it before and it was not part of the prior indictment, and why that is significant is that they have questioned folks saying, is that the document that they were talking about iran and laid out in the first indictment, because before

yes, lies that both henry kissinger and president richard nixon were trying to get away with it from time to name is now come out as the possible source of the time is probably gone documents. it is out of daniel salisbury, pharmacy analyst for the defense in the states department, prepared to answer the consequences of these. henry kissinger said that daniel ellsberg was the most dangerous man in america. he had to be stopped. someone helped us avoid a disaster, maybe even a nuclear war in that case, lakes and the power of us, the american people saying enough is enough. there's a documentary in fact that's out there right now. i think it's on netflix. you might want to look for it. it shows just how close we came to letting the lives when it's called the movement and the madman, nixon's the madman. by the way, i would encourage you to check it out. it's, it's that good. and now once again, we find ourselves in the midst of a powerful weak that gives us information that we previously did not know. and this one is about the war and ukraine. and what it really is is exactly what we as

richard nixon did the exact same thing. he had the head of the democratic party audited just because he wanted to create havoc for his enemies. he had an enemies list. he went to the head of the irs and asked that certain people be audited. so basically what donald trump is doing is taking the richard nixon playbook here and doing the exact same thing, probably without even realizing it. >> sara, tell us about rudy giuliani. so he may lose his law license? >> yeah. i mean we know obviously rudy giuliani has been facing some issues, and among them are questions about the future of his ability to practice law. and what we saw is an attorney disciplinary committee recommended that he should be disbarred here in washington, d.c. it was a unanimous decision that they wrote. there are still steps that need to take place in order for this to happen. this isn't the final word. but he's also facing an ethics review in new york. again, this is because of these kind of claims that rudy giuliani was peddling in the wake of the 2020 ele

>> my first reaction is that, this is richard nixon all over again. biggest problem with richard nixon when it came to watergate was the cover-up, and what we have here is an obvious cover-up with regards to trying to prevent law enforcement from access to potential evidence in a crime. and that mistake of trying to prevent material from being presented to law enforcement is ultimately what brought nixon down and i think it's what is ultimately going to bring trump down as well. >> how important is it that the government has its hands on that classified document on iran attack plans, the one trump was heard discussing on audiotape? >> well, obviously the concern that i think everybody needs to keep their eye on here is the fact that this involves classified material, and the reason it's classified is because it deals with national security, and it also is information that involves individuals in the intelligence arena who put their lives on the line in order to get very sensitive information. when the president of the united states takes that kind of

henry kissinger, 100 years old who opened china under president richard nixon of course sitting down what did henry tell them? do you think xi jinping listened? did he give him the straight stuff? >> xi jinping has had so many visits. bill gates, henry kissinger, that's about making shooting pink look like a big world later. but i think henry kissinger of old would have been very strong on military deterrence he always understood that was key and real politics and world politics as a kissinger message that goes straight to strong military deterrence to keep xi jinping backed off. eric: it may be he told him just that and said i am 100 years old i can say what i think. we will have to find out. doctor rebecca grant always good to have you, thank you. >> thank you. eric: will have more news here and "fox news live" when we come back. and this rookie pro... profers fresh sliced turkey. and if we profer it, we know you'll prefer it too. glad you made the cut. you mean slice? seriously? my most important kitchen tool? my brain. so i choose neuriva plus. unlike some others, neuriva plus is

what we have bob and i wrote in the 50th anniversary largely about the criminal president richard nixon and the criminal president donald trump. and the danger is obviously from trump. what is he? he is the first president of the united states, a president who attempted to make an insurrection and stop the legitimate function of power and function of the united states government. listen to what mitch mcconnell, the republican leader said on that day after january 6th, that only 1 person was morally and practically responsible for this insurrection, donald trump. so let's keep our eye on the facts, as bob said and what it's about. the republican party, which historically has done the right thing in the moment of joe mccarthy, the great demagogue did the right thing in watergate, forced richard nixon from office. are they going to allow an insurrectionness seditious president to carry our democracy into a terrible, horrible place where it has never gone? >> john, i will ask you both to sit tight. we will continue the conversation after the break. i want to get more on this january 6th tha

perhaps he learned it from another disgraced former republican president richard nixon who when askedost in 1977 why he authorized legal actions against anti vietnam war protesters, nixon infamously replied, well when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal. nbc presidential historian recently on twitter quote, had present for not granted nixon animals immediate full free and absolute pardon in 1974, later presidents might hat not a felt so license to break the law. >> michael joins me now as does jill wine-banks, legal analyst who served as one of the assistant prosecutors during the watergate scandal. thank you both for coming back on the show. michael, let's start with that tweet that you wrote. do you really believe that had he not pardon nixon, trump would not have felt so emboldened to break the law? this is trump we're talking about. a man who doesn't give a dam about precedent or norms. >> i do and my good friend jill from chicago where we both come from, phil is still there, has better judgment. maybe we both have midwestern common sense. that would lead me t

and he specifically spoke about the courage of richard nixon, and richard nixon was really brave in thisger himself readily admits that the idea that the united states needs to restore relations with china, this idea was nixon’s, and kissinger supported it and largely implemented it, because indeed such a turn in the american policy from total rejection of china to the creation of a new relationship - it's still an idea that, uh, that could only come from the president, not this national security adviser. but now, when the war says such a thing to a kiser and i will voice this public one. is this just a sign of politeness to praise kissinger, or is it? do you want to hint quite transparently that the current administration in washington is not known for courage, not completely adequately i, well, hats, yes, really, well, i know you and and and uh showed it at the negotiations and i understand that neither one word is never superfluous, brilliant is also an absolute specialist, so it seems to me that there are two overwhelming meanings here. they go together, firstly, that it is the leade

i dare say that things have change add lot since richard nixon was president in -- changed a lot since richard nixon was president in terms of services in this country and goods, yet we have not done anything as a congress to enhance the benefit of the more than 66 million people who are on social security. that number will exceed 70 million within a year and a half. 70 million of our fellow americans. here's the real deal, five million of them get below poverty level checks from their government. having worked all their lives, paid into a system to get an earned benefit, and find themselves getting a below poverty level check because the united states congress has not acted on their behalf. 23 million fellow americans get taxed on their work in their job for what they are doing, and they -- that tax should be eliminated. there needs to be an across-the-board increase for all social security recipients. that's why we call attention to this day of action. the day of action that's needed most, though, is by the united states congress. and for us to act bipartisanly across the board and m

and even richard nixon in 1960 when he ran against john f.ennedy and lost by a very narrow margin, there were all sorts of rumors and allegations that the votes hadn't come in from chicago and mayor daley bumped the system up would have cost nixon the election. nixon himself in one of the more patriotic moments of his life said, no, we're not going to contest this election. the country deserves to have a smooth transition, and he ensured that to be the case. and donald trump -- i mean, you can'tout-nixon nixon very easily, but donald trump has. >> so, jennifer, according to "the washington post," the former arizona governor, doug ducey, has said, he is surprised he has not been contacted by special counsel jack smith. if that's the case, if smith hasn't contacted him, can you explain that? >> well, i'm a little surprised too. i mean, previously, it was recorded that they had spoken. but apparently the content of that conversation hadn't come out. so, it would be more surprising if now jack smith doesn't try to talk to doug ducey at this time.