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sanjay gupta. david axelrod commentator and adviser to president obama. robert brownstein, the atlantic, and julie hirschfeld davis. dr. gupta, what do you want to know about the president's condition? >> i'd like to know when he first developed symptoms and when he had his last negative coronavirus test. we were told he was diagnosed thursday, and then he develops, you know, significant enough symptoms that he needed to go to the hospital. that is a little bit of an unusual time course. usually, you have the exposure to the virus, some time passes. and then you develop a positive test. some time passes, you develop symptoms. i think it's relevant medically, michael, because, you know, if he's been dealing with this virus for some time. it may change the conversation of treatment, the nature of his treatments but also give some idea what the pace of his recovery is likely to be. there's still details about this. i'm glad he's at the hospital, i think someone of his age with pre-existing conditions you want to make sure you're in a place where you have seve

sanjay gupta is joining us. based on the growing number of new cases, growing number of hospitalizations, the u.s. is clearly beginning to see what the experts call a second wave of the virus. are we headed for another surge in deaths? i hope not but potentially like the one we saw in the early spring? >> yeah, unfortunately, wolf. it sort of looks that way. if you look at the map overall, for some time it was sort of this patchwork, right? you saw increasing cases in one

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sanjay gupta joins us now.le that you found 82% of the time the rate of new case jumped after president trump's visit to any specific county. did this surprise you? >> well, we knew the numbers were going up in many of these places. i think what surprised me was just how out of proportion the numbers went up in those particular areas, those particular counties, even prepare to the surrounding counties and the rest of the state. that's the thing. it's very hard to contact trace right now, jake. you have 70,000 newly infected people every day. looking at this sort of data at a hyper local level, i thought, was quite revealing, just the impact of these types of large gatherings. >> yeah and, of course, just in terms of contact tracing, we were talking months ago about all the unemployed people and wouldn't it be great if the trump administration launched a manhattan project to put people to work by doing the contact tracing that they're not doing? when the cameras pan out to these crowds at the trump and pence ral

inconsistencies here but i don't look at that and say this is a grave sign or some concerning sign. >> sanjay guptak you. appreciate it. let's bring back carl bernstein. and joe alan joins us now, as well. so, you know, carl, it's interesting. you heard what dr. gupta said. that it seems they are trying this kitchen-sink approach. neither of us are doctors, but the question is where is the transparency in all of this? we need -- the american people deserve transparency. >> absolutely. there's no question about it. and in terms of the stability of our country. and -- and also, how foreign countries are looking at us. and -- and how they are going to take action in terms of is there a threat to those countries by a hostile power that might come and try to take advantage of us during this terrible period? transparency is always the answer. but we got to ask ourselves why isn't there transparency? and, of course, it always comes back to the same question with donald trump. even at this terrible moment with his hospitalization. it comes back to -- >> carl, i need to interrupt you because i want to get -

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sanjay gupta, now. a whole lot of questions for him. sanjay, good to see you, again. so, so many people who have been near this president have tested positive for coronavirus. do you expect this to keep growing? >> well, yes, i do. you know, when we look at, sort of, average number of contacts that someone has during a period between the time they're exposed to the time they get diagnosed. you know, during -- during covid time, maybe, 35 contacts. i think that's what professor bromage, who you had on before, talks about. the president, five states, washington, d.c., several events. it's looking like this saturday event, in particular, was a very concerning event for possibly being a super-spreader event. so, yeah. and that's what makes it challenging, don. right? it makes it challenging to go find those people. was this a close contact? how far away were you? how long were you there? was anybody masked? all those sorts of questions. you can see how laborious a task it is to try and contact trace like this. but the answer to your question, yes, i think there will be mo

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sanjay gupta is back with me now. sanjay, just in hindsight, was the debate tuesday set up in a safe enough way. they were socially distant. they were probably more than six feet. i'm not sure of the exact distance. looked 8 to 10 feet distant from each other. they were looking at each other. the president was yelling a lot and, you know, stuff was coming out of both people's mouths. was it safe? >> well, i think -- i don't think you can say it was safe. you can say that they tried to do the best job they can -- they could in setting that up in the midst of a pandemic with a very contagious virus that's circulating. it is worth pointing out that both men are considered vulnerable. my parents are in their 70s living in florida. they've been told to stay home in march. they watch this saying, we're staying at home for the last several months and two people around our age are up there in this sort of setting. i don't think you can say it was safe and now in retrospect given what has happened, the president being diagnose

sanjay gupta join me now. thank you very much. on the don't make yourself sick to make a point score, sanjay, what do we know about people going to these rallies for the president? he said nobody gets sick. we've never had a problem. he said that in a debate. is it true? >> no. we do have some clear evidence there's been people who have become infected as a result of these rallies. the cause and effect. it's hard to do when you have over 80,000 people becoming infected every day. just too many people. it would be a whole sector of our society. >> how do you know? >> we decided to look at theese counties. 17 rallies in these counties and looked at what happened in the four weeks before and the four weeks after these rallies and compare it to the counties around these counties in the same state. not surprising the numbers are going up everywhere. we already knew that. we found 82% of the time, cases went up in the county right after the president's visit, within a few weeks after the president's visit and half the time it was out of

sanjay gupta joins me.tion process because she is covid positive you quarantine if you come in contact somebody and you don't believe you're positive for safety. this is yet another member of the president's team. the president is covid, positive, the first lady, hope hicks, kellyanne conway, governor chris christie and now kayleigh mcenany she said after testing consistently every day since thursday i tested positive for covid-19 on monday while experiencing no symptoms. i want to stop there for now. it's another reminder that testing is great because you find out if you're positive but it did not protect you from this virus. >> that's right. i mean, that's a -- i hope that she is does okay. she doesn't have any symptoms now and i can -- i know it's jarring to hear this news when you first test positive. i talked to lots of patients who received the news. i hope she's okay. but you're right, john, when you think about the test. it's really valuable if it comes back and tells you that you are positive becau

sanjay gupta. sanjay, we're here, it's here. look, everything that people you, doctors, had warned about today, it's here. and the worst of the -- you just heard, the hardest part of the pandemic is right now. what are you seeing? >> yeah, i mean, look, it saddens me to say it. it's one of these things that as you point out, people could see coming for some time, by looking at the data, looking at sort of what was happening. and now the increasing number of people who are becoming infected is growing, but it's also growing at a more rapid pace. as you know, some of the highest total days of new infections have happened just over the past few days. and if you look at these numbers closely, you see the pace at which they are building. so the concern is that red line that you see is going to start going into exponential growth, which is more straight up. they're also, you know, we'll talk about this, but there's increased positivity rates in many of these states, as well. which basically means, as high as those numbers whereby we'r

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sanjay gupta. good to have you on. >> good morning. >> i'm not asking you to diagnose from affair. it's just the information from the white house has been conflicting, sometimes misleading. i want to ask big picture your best judgment of where things stand based on the treatments the president is taking, the health data that's at least public because there's a lot that's not. but also this video i want to play again of the president last night at the top of the stairs at the white house and what, if anything, you saw from his behavior then. where does the president's health stand as best we can assess? >> so first of all, the video is playing and i know there's a lot of chatter about the video. as you point out, jim, people shouldn't diagnose anything from videos. the chatter is is the president short of breath up there. he obviously walked up a flight of stairs, he's 74 years old, he's obese, so people are going to be a little winded. is this something more? they're pointing to mouth breathing. when you're mouth breathing like this, are you using accessory muscles to breathe. does

sanjay gupta, they are hiding things. a couple hours ago, for the second straight day, the doctors treating president trump walked out of walter reed medical center as a team to update reporters. someone not medically trained could come away from it believing the president is hardly sick at all. >> the patient continues to improve. he has remained without fever since friday morning. his vital signs are stable. >> today he feels well. he's been up and around. our plan today is for have him to eat and drink, to be up out of bed as mobile as possible. >> would like to reiterate how pleased we are with the president's recovery. >> he's feeling great, up and around. he could be discharged tomorrow. now, the president's doctors did say he battled a fever, his oxygen levels did fall at least two times and he did spend time being administered supplemental oxygen. a detail they danced around in yesterday's medical briefing. this is the u.s. president. we need serious and accurate information, whether it's what we are hoping to hea

sanjay gupta, dana bash, and david gregory. and, sanjay, i could almost feel the anxiety from you reaching out over the airwaves when the president walked up into the balcony and took his mask off. what was the importance of that public health messaging? >> well, you know, it's really important for the public as we're going into the fall that we -- i think people know how much of an impact masks can have. he coupled that with the idea of saying, look, don't fear the coronavirus. don't fear covid. basically, in some ways, signaling this idea that herd immunity is still a good strategy. you know, just let the virus go out there and infect people and don't fear it. it will be okay. i mean, that was sort of the messaging that was coming out. symbolically don't need the mask, going to walk into a residence with other people around me who are wearing masks, they're protect meg even though i'm the one with the coronavirus, they're not protected from me necessarily and then i'm walking into the residence without a mask on. so it's the b

sanjay gupta.to start with what president trump said today when asked if he could do it all over again, what he would do differently when it comeds s to handling the coronavirus pandemic. he said, "not much." what is your response? >> it's totally absurd to think ghae the best we could do is beat the did the in the world. anybody can look at the right side of the screen and as they have heard so many times if they watch your show we are not 5% of the world's population' make up nearly 25% of the world's cases. it's, obviously, a huge shortcoming here. i think what is lost sometimes in all of this, jake, when does it mean to have done something? the president often talks about the travel restrictions but that clearly wasn't enough. i want to show you some hyperlocal data. we were collecting this from arizona. remember, arizona going through the spring and just how significant the impact was over there. when they lifted stay-at-home orders, no surprise beginning in june and end of may, they had a sig

let's bring in sanjay gupta. first of all, don't touch things. we moved past it.things. then you have to be around a person for a long time. we had a scenario of i would rather give someone a hug and walk on than talk to someone in a close setting for several minutes and now a period of about 15 minutes is relevant but you can get to it and not just in one contact, is that right? >> yeah. i mean that is basically it, chris. in some ways it always has been arbitrary as you are alluding to. you have 15-minute contact. what if the person sneezes after a minute. does that change anything. what if you are five or six things away. the guidance now is reflecting that. i will just show people what was close contact, within six feet for at least 15 minutes. now total of 15 or more over a 24-hour period. it better reflects what we have been told, which is you should wear a mask. this is about masks. the whole guidance is about masks saying wear a mask even if you think you will be around somebody for just a few minutes, wear a mask. >> we know masks are politicized. we know

sanjay gupta with us.telev and politics and white house editor for axios, former director, office of government ethics in the bush administration, walter schaub and cnn political analyst and journalist carl bernstein. good to see all of you. so sanjay, one more time. the president's doctor says -- the president is doing very well. but then he says he's been diagnosed 72 hours ago, and that confused everybody because most people thought the diagnosis came early yesterday morning and that he's also been on a five-day treatment regimen of the drug remdesivir. what does this underscore about the president's real condition? >> i think it makes it very hard to know what the real condition of the president is because there's so many things that we were just told that don't track. they don't make sense. they don't fit with what we had been told before. not the least of which is when was the president actually diagnosed with this disease? just a fundamental question. we were told friday 1:00 in the morning. now we'

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sanjay gupta is with us. when you saw the president, you understand these things, what did his look suggest to you? could we make any determination as to his state when we saw him walking out there? >> i think it would be hard to speculate too much. obviously he was walking on his own. he seemed to not have any difficulty with that or going up the stairs or anything. he was wearing a mask which is mandatory especially now that he has the virus. but there is nothing particularly concerning when he boards the helicopter there. i wouldn't have expected that either. even with moderate symptoms, fever, not feeling well, fatigued, whatever it may be, it would still fit with that. it was the level of concern that prompted this. the helicopter flight over to the hospital. hopefully, as you have asked -- and hopefully we will get more details about what prompted that specifically, but we know he is going there and is expected to stay there. there are clues that there is a level of concern that changed throughout the d

sanjay gupta joins me again. sanjay, first of all, what i got from that press conference, such as it was, was that commander conley was wanting to share information that he thought reflected well on the president's health and refused to give any information that he thought would reflect poorly. when confronts about his condition, how would he be safely esconced, quarantined, the doctor said he wouldn't go into that. he wouldn't go into specifics about what he is or is not on. are you confident that the president should be discharged? >> i don't think we have the information here about the basic things. does the president have pneumonia? don't have an answer to that. the president needed oxygen. how significant was the impact on his lungs? don't know the answer to that. we know he's going to continue to get these medications as well as remdesivir. i get it that there is a medical unit in the hospital, but that's why he went to walter reed in the first place, to receive the drugs. why the change here? if he's on blo

sanjay gupta. >> donald j. trump. >> reporter: for president trump's supporters, these rallies have come to represent a show of force against fear. >> it's a 99.9% survival rate, and i am going to continue to live my life. i hope everybody else does too. >> reporter: for a lot of public health experts, too, these rallies also have the elements of a contagion, few masks, lots of people, closely clustered together for more than 15 minutes at a time. you can't see the virus, but what is happening during a super spreading event? >> it's a very rough analogy but if you think of a camp fire and you have just a gentle breeze, not everybody sitting around that camp fire is equal in regards to the amount of virus or smoel they're getting this their face. >> reporter: outdoors can be up to 20 to 30 times safer than indoors, the virus just more likely to disburse into the air but it is still not completely safe. again, think of that campfire smoke. it drifts and lingers and then travels wherever the wind may carry it. but

sanjay gupta is joining me now. dr. under president trump, is warning of a rapid acceleration, yet we still don't hear any evidence of any new plan from the white house for more widespread testing, for some sort of contact tracing plan so the virus can be identified and isolated and contained. do you see any evidence of the leadership on this from the white house that the nation needs in order to get these numbers down? >> no. i mean, there is no plan, jake, right now. in fact, the most that you hear about things that they are not going to do, right? absolutely not going to mandate masks. we are not going to back into any circuit breaker lockdown mode. so it's not a plan of was we are going to do. it's what we are not. you know, you talk about the case numbers. i know why scott gottlieb is saying this. if you look what is happening in the european union versus the united states, remember, we were one to two weeks behind italy and i'm going back to april time frame now. the european union was able to br bring their numbe

sanjay gupta. let me start with you, john. today, the president's physician, he was vague about the president's condition. he dodged ai lot of questions on whether he actually received -- the president received -- supplemental oxygen. give us the latest because we're getting a lot of confusing answers from the president as opposed to the white house chief of staff? >> wolf, we had a master class in bad communications from the white house today because they belatedly, after an extended period, which we did not get any official briefing from the white house, they sent out the president's doctor and other doctors who had been treating the president here at walter reed and gave an extremely evasive news conference at which sean conley, the doctor, wouldn't say how high the president's fever had been, wouldn't specify whether he had ever gotten supplemental oxygen. we've subsequently confirmed that he has got supplemental oxygen. would i not say whether they had detected lung damage in the president. we're monitoring that closely.

sanjay gupta, cnn's chief medical correspondent joins us now. sanjay, your thoughts. >> well, this won't surprise you, but i think from a medical perspective obviously a virtual debate would be the best, safest option medically and that was even before the president was diagnosed with coronavirus. so, you know, it's interesting because the sort of policies around these debates went from being a very porous sort of policy, you can be tested, just show your test within 72 hours, any kind of test you want, people inside, audience, not even necessarily masked during the first debate, that was sort of what we saw, to now virtual. i'm sure as you point out that this has a lot to do with the fact that the president has been diagnosed with covid, but, you know, we are in the middle of a pandemic here, so it's funny, we talk about these issues all the time and, you know, part of me is saying we're clearly just trying to make the best out of a bad situation, it feels very incremental. we will test, we will sort of require masks. none of this stuff really m

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sanjay gupta with us. very interesting. there seems to be a discrepancy on the timeline. the doctor saying within 72 hours but it was, what, yesterday, 1:00 a.m. when the world learned about the president's testing positive for covid-19. so what did you hear there? what struck you as interesting? dr. conley underscoring the president is not on oxygen now but then also said not yesterday and that he's doing exceptionally well. >> yeah, fred, it was almost more about what he wouldn't answer versus what he did, right? the timeline struck me as well. he said it's been 72 hours since his diagnosis. here we are saturday morning. 73 days ago, is that when the diagnosis was? as you point out, we didn't hear about it until 1:00 in the morning on -- i'm getting my days mixed up as well, but that doesn't jive with what we've heard. >> the audio was funny there. go ahead. >> the oxygen thing was really relevant. this is not a small point. and the reporters who were asking the question followed up several times. was he on supplemental oxygen or not at any time? and for some crazy evas

sanjay gupta. cnn chief political correspondent, dana bash, and dr. jeremy reiner. he's the cardiologist for former vice president dick cheney. sanjay, there are a series of questions we have this morning, but i want to start with the president and his health. so a man in his 70s who is overweight with coronavirus, what is the health situation facing the president this morning? >> yeah, good morning, john. first of all, let me just remind people that obviously, given the president's age and his pre-existing conditions illnesses, he's going to be at increased risk from this disease, but i want to preface by saying, still, the odds are very much in his favor. i don't want to unsettle people too much with this. you know, greater than 90%, 95% chance that he will get through this, still. but let me show you a little bit about the president, what we know about his medical history. we know because of his age, 74 years old, because of his weight, because he is a common form of heart disease, those things all put him at increased risk for chance of hospitalization. a lot of

sanjay gupta and cnn political analyst, maggie haberman. she is a white house correspondent for "the new york times." i actually have the same basic question for both of you, although on different fronts. basically, sanjay, where are we this morning? you just heard dr. fauci speak in some of the bleakest terms i've heard. where are quwe? >> the numbers you just heard are clearly going up. we had more conversations about this back in march and april. you want to follow several things. we've known the numbers have been going up for some time, but now we're starting to ask, is this going into sort of exponential growth, where the line, and we can show what's happening here, the line will start going straight up, because these cases start to build on each other, more and more people become infected, more and more people spread, and it's like a big boulder sort of rolling down a hill. it becomes a problem. the other thing we notice when we see these maps and talk to health systems around the country, which is perhaps even a more important measure

sanjay gupta and van jones. sanjay, listening to what was supposed to be a comfort-giving interview on fox by a doctor, what did you hear that gave you any cause for confidence? >> there wasn't a lot of information that was given there really at all. i mean, you know, most of it we'd heard before and obviously wasn't an exam. so, you know, it's -- you can't really make much of it. the president did say that he had congestion in his lungs. mark siegel asked the president, did he have scans? and he said he had all kinds of scans, but he didn't say what they were, but then said that they seemed to show some congestion in his lungs, which is actually the first time we'd heard that because previously the president's doctors, dr. conley, said there were findings. look, this is all purposely vague, chris. we're left to look at these breadcrumbs and try and piece something together here. it sounds like the president is off of his medications now, but he said that initially, and then later on in the interview, he said sh

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earlier in the day, sanjay gupta in his wisdom said, he thought it was a mistake for the.o go home tomorrow, to be discharged tomorrow. it was too early. this is going to raise a lot of questions, why and how does this fit into his overall health issues. >> right. and again, we don't have all the information, and that's part of the problem. we're showing the video again. we're putting it in slow-mo so we can all get a look as the president is in it the vehicle, wearing a mask, waving. let's go live to jeremy diamond as we look at this video. he's on scene outside walter reed. jeremy diamond, what can you tell us about what we just witnessed? >> reporter: well, we just saw the president drive by in the motorcade to wave to supporters. it was a stunning scene. we didn't get any notification, of course. initially they started to block off a part of the street right here in front of walter reed national military medical center. and then the president's motorcade proceeded to drive down one side of the street where you have several dozen of the president's supporters. and back

sanjay gupta and infectious disease specialist dr. selene gounder on the air with us last night when this began to break. the white house says the president was taken out of an abun dendance of caution. given what we know about his medical condition and frankly, there is a lot as we point out we do not know because the white house is not allowing the doctors to be speaking and be interviewed by reporters, how concerning is this in terms of the president's health? >> well, i think it can be a component of both, an abundance after caution but a heightened level of concern. i've been reporting on this since 1:00 in the morning hearing the various statements from the white house, talking to sources at first it was that he's doing well and then it was minor symptoms and then it was the fever and then you heard it was more moderate symptoms. this experimental therapy that he got. these are all sort of signals. this is having covered this story for so many months now, this is the way we get this type of information in these little bread crum

sanjay gupta. i meant president obama, not david axelrod. time will tell. david, you tweeted today that the president has basically turned his own political demise into a, quote, surreal reality show. do you think this -- this -- i mean, does this get him anywhere? you know, bringing up the hillary clinton e-mail. i mean, it's all the greatest hits from -- from rants of the past. and only -- you know, with sort of infomercials for, you know, remdesivir and other things thrown in. and free offers to seniors. >> no. the short answer is no. the -- i have to say, at this moment, it feels like the president is not well. the kinds of things that he said on that show. they're not unlike things he said in the past. but as you say, it was like a kind of spazmodic. but he is really disgorging his own resentments now. and maybe, it's because, at some level, he recognizes that he is not on course to win this race. but that -- that was a really appalling and, i think, alarming performance tods becau performance because we don't know what drugs he is on. we don't know wh

david axelrod, gloria borger, sanjay gupta, thanks so much. appreciate it. >>> coming up next, details of the alleged plot to kidnap the governor of michigan and the frightening agenda behind it. michigan's attorney general joins us. >>> and later, bill gates joins us to talk vaccines and therapies, including the experimental treatment that the president got. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ with priceline, you can get up to 60% off amazing hotels. and when you get a big deal... ...you feel like a big deal. ♪ priceline. every trip is a big deal. >>> breaking news out of michigan tonight. the fbi announced they have foiled an alleged domestic terrorism plot to kidnap the governor of michigan, overthrow several state governments and according to the federal criminal complaint, quote, ins gate a civil war. today michigan's governor gretchen whitmer made a statement and brought up president trump's comments at the last debate telling far-right group the proud boys stand back and stand by. >> hate groups heard the president's words not as a rebuke, but a rallying cry, as a

who knows what the administration is going to do. >> sanjay gupta joins us now.s is disruptive, politics is undermining the public's confidence. do you think politics can stay out of the vaccine process? >> after doing this piece and talking to people for several months, i think so. there is clearly a lot of pressure. this is unchartered territory. because you do have this other organization that's removed from the fda and the executive branch of government, they're doing their own work largely confidential. as you heard i think it does offer a layer of protection that's important as you point it out as well, anderson, steven haun says the fda is not going to be pressured. >> live pictures of rallies. is that accurate? no one gotten sick, can an in-door rally and -- what do you make of the president saying they had no problem? >> first of all, because we still have so many new viral infections everyday in this country, contact tracing is something and we talk about it all the time. it is incredibly hard to do. how do you contact tracing 40,000 people everyday and

sanjay gupta, cnn, reporting. >> thank you, doctor. we'll be right back.e backbone of our country yet the united states is the only industrialized nation not to provide paid leave. time is our most precious and limited resource. with paid leave you do not have to choose between your job and your family or between your job and your own health. paid leave works. congress must permit every american, not just the rich and wealthy, to take the time and ability to care for those dearest to us. babies... elderly parents, even themselves.

sanjay gupta is with us. we are waiting for the president to emerge from the white house and walk over to marine one which will take him on this broef flight to walter reed. we are learning more, but one of the most frustrating things for all of us is that there is no formal detailed white house briefing from the physicians to tell the american public, tell the world in the 200 countries we are being seen around the world, tell the world what is going on as far as the president of the united states is concerned. >> it is quite remarkable. we have covered these sorts of things, nothing quite like this. but typically you get the president's doctor coming out and talking about these like this. especially as the president is about to be medevaced to the hospital. even what we have heard throughout the day, since 1:00 this morning, we have had to piece things together. mild illness, had a fever, moderate illness, receiving experimental therapy, all of these details unfurled. and no ability to address questions to

sanjay gupta tomorrow night, 9:00 p.m. eastern time.o chris for "cuomo prime time." >>> thanks, john. have a great weekend. i am chris cuomo and welcome to "prime time." the proposition before us is clear. trump needs to put up or stay put. the president won't show you a negative covid test. he just gave an interview where he said things that make no sense about his condition. he's clear from covid, but when you hear his explan

sanjay gupta. this is -- this is -- dr. gupta, this is the headline. we learned about this back in january. the country started locking down, back in march. the president of the united states has now tested positive for coronavirus, after months of downplaying this disease. 207,000 americans have died from this disease. hours ago, he said that we were at the end of this pandemic. and, here we are, with the president of the united states and the first lady and a member of his staff, that we know of now, all testing positive for coronavirus. what a moment? >> sorry, i didn't know which doctor you were talking to. >> dr. gupta. >> yeah. welcome, dr. wen. good morning. yeah. no. it is -- it is -- it is very unsettling. it is -- it is stunning. and -- and i -- i, also, have to say it's not surprising. for a couple of reasons. one is, you know, this is a very contagious virus. okay? and the virus doesn't care. virus doesn't care who you are, it doesn't care where you are. it -- it just likes to jump from host to host. but it's, also, not surprising because i

sanjay gupta. sanjay, despite this grim picture the white house listed ending the covid-19 pandemic as one of the president's accomplishments and then said that claim was, what, poorly worded. is there any way to back up that claim when the country added more than half a million confirmed new coronavirus cases in the past week alone? >> no. absolutely not, wolf. i mean, poorly worded is being generous because we're going in absolutely the wrong direction here, wolf. the numbers are increasing. but the pace at which the numbers are increasing is also going up. as you mentioned, half a million cases in a week, wolf. we are going into a really tough season here. we also know the basic things that are getting done to try to curb some of these numbers is also not happening. i mean, there's still not enough testing. testing does not lead to more cases. it leads hopefully to finding cases and decreasing the numbers. but we're still not doing enough. masks are still not being worn by enough people. the pres

sanjay gupta is with us with the medical side of the story. joe, let's start with you. is the white house getting anymore information on whether the president has any symptoms and the time line of the past few days and how he ended up infected? i don't understand based on the reporting if hope hicks were the first to test positive, at least that we lurnd about thursday morning, and the white house knew thursday morning that she tested positive, i don't understand why the president flew to new jersey without being tested or if he was tested and tested positive initially, why he would have been allowed to go to new jersey. >> very true. i've got to tell you, anderson, the first thing i thought of when i found out about this, so many people i've talked to at the white house have 15ird private lir that it was highly likely he was going to go to. and the fact of the people that he meets with. he doesn't wear a mask. that's important to say. many people believe at some point the president was highly likely to test positive. as far as the time line, the a list of contact traci

it is something that nobody, sanjay gupta, anyone will ever understand. >> sanjay, you can comment on that but i also want you to comment with the british study about immunity. they had a large study. in june 6% those who took the took had antibodies. september, only 4.4% of them did. three months later the antibodies had gone down that much and why the herd yum muimm is falacy. >> first, i always agree with dana bash. it was an interesting study. you're right. they were doing a random sampling of 400,000 people and not testing the same person saying your and bodies have dropped. they were saying here is the percentage had antibodies in the beginning and here is what it was like a few months later. you're absolutely right. they found the antibody levels dropped along that population and more likely to drop among older versus younger people. i think two major takeaways here. first of all, even if you do get the infection, you're probably still going to need to get vaccinated. in fact, not probably. you still will need to get vaccinated because we know your immunity from the infection d

sanjay gupta. good sanjay. i had to look back at the transcript for the actual quotes to actually believe that, yes, the president wants to hold a rally tomorrow and on sunday in florida and pennsylvania, respectively. it reminded me of what his physician, who now says he's cleared to go, said when the president was in the midst of the thick of this. listen to this. >> if we can get through to monday with him remaining the same or improving, better yet, we'll all take that final deep sigh of relief. >> monday, as in, three days from now, monday. so where does this leave us? >> well, they're trying to accelerate this time schedule. and it doesn't make sense medically, even at the time that dr. conley said that this past monday. i mean, it was still already feeling like, you know, that was when he was -- the president was getting out of the hospital. it already felt like it was sort of being rushed along. he should be in isolation, he should be in a hospital. he's 74 years old, he's a vulnerable patient, and he h

our chief medical correspondent sanjay gupta was listening carefully for clues about the president's health. >> the president did say he had congestion in his lungs. mark siegel ask the president, did he have scans? he said he had all kinds of scans and didn't say what they were. they showed congestion in his lungs, which is the first time we heard that. >> so with the election just over three weeks away and down in many polls, president trump wants to kick start his campaign with a rally on monday in florida, but one medical expert speaking to cnn's jay tapper said large clouds will inevitably spread the disease further. >> well, florida is ripe for another large outbreak. what they've done is opened up everything as if nothing had ever happened there. and you and i could be talking probably in eight, ten weeks and i will likely bet that florida will be a house on fire. this is what's so sad about this. we know these things are going to happen. it's not like you can escape this virus. i find it illogical that people think just because they get done with the virus, the virus is done

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