joining me now is former democratic congresswoman stephanie murphy of florida, a former member of they 6th committee. representative, thanks for being here with us. what do you say to that defense that what trump did was not criminal? this is about the first amendment. >> thanks for having me on. it's great to be with you, richard. i thought that performance was a masterful political spin, masquerading as meaningful defense. look, i think, you know, we are learning an awful lot based on what the special prosecutor has been able to discover that we didn't even know within january 6th committee. and when you want to vote about that, there was a tidbit within the indictment that indicates that the president wanted to pursue, when he was asked by the vice president -- he said, you are too honest. which means that he knows what he is asking you to do, do something dishonest, unconstitutional. this is gonna be a case for the special prosecutor to press in the court of law. and i am certainly hopeful that there will be able to find a guilty verdict. >> representative, when you go through the

former democratic congresswoman stephanie murphy of florida.s moulitsas, founder of the daily kos, pat mccrory, and danielle pletka, senior fellow at the american enterprise institute. let me start with the visual that i think will live for quite some time and that is the show of hands on donald trump. let's play it again. >> if former president trump is convicted in a court of law, would you still support him as your party's choice? please raise your hand if you would. [ cheers and applause ] >> dani pletka, it was a moment especially like a cascade and a wave and everybody else, and it was this reluctance. >> there was that christie weird hand signal thing. i do see it slightly differently because they all went on to that stage having made a pledge that they would support the party's nominee. so -- >> never did say they had to support a convicted felon in that pledge. >> the party's nominee, there's no asterisk there that says he can't have a mugshot, right? so i feel for them in the sense that they were sort of -- none of them wanted to rais

hope she is doing _ stephanie murphy tonight. hope she is doing well.in america right now. if the _ polarisation in america right now. if the roles — polarisation in america right now. if the roles were reversed mckay had done with _ if the roles were reversed mckay had done with him from did, to instigate what happened on generally six —— and a _ what happened on generally six —— and a democrat had done. i think the numbers— and a democrat had done. i think the numbers would be similar for stub that is— numbers would be similar for stub that is where america is right now and frankly— that is where america is right now and frankly have got to get beyond this next _ and frankly have got to get beyond this next presidential election and do what _ this next presidential election and do what we can to move america back to the _ do what we can to move america back to the middle, move america back to where governing was seen as a good thln- where governing was seen as a good thing rather— where governing was seen as a good thing rather than a bad thing. but u

. >> joining me now is former florida congresswoman stephanie murphy. also the former member of the january 6th elect committee. charles coleman junior, msnbc legal analysis towards attorney and former brooklyn prosecutor. and douglas brinkley, presidential historian and professor of history at rice university. thank you all very much for coming to the sunday show. douglas, let me start with you. talk about this inflection point in history that we are in. especially on this day. the 58th anniversary of the signing into law of the voting rights act? >> there is nothing more sacred in the united states and the right to vote and one of the biggest moments in my lifetime as the voting rights act. i would predict it's going to sell, will alabama, varied marches way to educate a remind ourselves that voting is a sacred right. and the fact of the matter is that donald trump really has broken that compact with the american people. but their refusal to admit that it was a free and fair election is one thing. but to start creating a conspiracy to deny people the

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former democratic congresswoman stephanie murphy of florida. pat mccrory, danielle pletka of the american enterprise institute and marcos mulis sass, the founder of daily coast. welcome to sunday. it's "meet the press." >> from nbc news in washington, the longest running show in television history, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. >>> good sunday morning. donald trump's inevitabilitiy, the idea that he cannot be beaten in this republican primary has been a source of strength for him. at wednesday night's debate could look like without trump on wednesday, but we still live on this version of earth and until one of trump's opponents is recognized as a viable challenge by republican primary voters, it is a debate that may have to be put on hold until 2024. that said, a failure of imagination turned the idea that trump could never win in 2016 into faulty conventional wisdom, and it's that same failure of imagination now to believe that he can't lose the republican primary that we should be cautious of. the main threat to trump has always b

looking at those pictures, i would like to bring former democratic stephanie murphy.u served on the january six committee, i want to ask you what role of the investigation played in the conclusions you came to on the committee? let conclusions you came to on the committee?— committee? let me 'ust say it is aood committee? let me 'ust say it is good to h committee? let me 'ust say it is good to be _ committee? let me 'ust say it is good to be back i committee? let me just say it is good to be back with - committee? let me just say it is good to be back with you i is good to be back with you with the rodney, and brian and rodney, i hope you did not refer to me in the same way as you did your previous colic as a psychopathic narcissist but it is great to be here with you all. in all seriousness, georgia was just all. in all seriousness, georgia wasjust a all. in all seriousness, georgia was just a number of targeted key states that the former president sought to overturn the election, the outcome of the election in those states, georgia, arizona, pennsylvania, wisconsin,

we then saw this exchange between former congresswoman stephanie murphy, and the former communicationsnza. the sad thing about this is that these indictments have opened up our legal system to a tax, and thatjust undermines our institutions are. as it is the american people have very little faith in their institutions, but then having faith in our institutions, whether that is voting or law enforcement or congress, its core to a strong democracy, and so all of this partisan bickering hurts us as a nation, and i think our enemies abroad see that as an opportunity, and it's just really an unfortunate situation. just a follow—up on that, what do you mean, do you think that our enemies abroad see that as an opportunity? well, there are those who think that their system of government, autocracy, socialism, communism, autocratic systems are the ones that are the best, that should prevail in this next, in our future, and as a democracy, when we are attacking our institutions at the very core of what a democracy is which is one vote, your vote matters, we are doing their bidding for them. as w

earlier, my colleague sumi somaskanda spoke to former congresswoman stephanie murphy.esentative for the state of florida, and also worked on the house select committee to investigate the january 6th attack. congresswoman, thank you for joining us. you served on the january sixth committee in the house of representatives. at the end of last year, you retired. how do you feel about the indictment that we have seen? i the indictment that we have seen? ~ seen? i feel like the indictment - seen? i feel like the indictment is - seen? i feel like the indictment is the i seen? i feel like the - indictment is the beginning of the process of legal accountability for the former president, for his role in trying to impact our democracy. in some ways, a sad day for america that we had an elected official at our highest level trying to undermine our democracy, but on the other hand it's also a day that shows our institutions have held, despite his greatest efforts. you will get due process. i hope we will see that he is held accountable. d0 hope we will see that he is held accountab

earlier, my colleague sumi somaskanda spoke to former congresswoman stephanie murphy. she served as a democratic representative for the state of florida and also worked on the house select committee to investigate the january 6th attack. thank you so much forjoining us. firstly, you served on the january six committee in the house of representatives. at the end of last year you retired. how do you feel about the arraignment and indictment we have seen? if the arraignment and indictment we have seen?— we have seen? if you like the indictment — we have seen? if you like the indictment is _ we have seen? if you like the indictment is the _ we have seen? if you like the indictment is the beginning i we have seen? if you like the| indictment is the beginning of the process of legal accountability for the former president, for his role in trying to subvert our democracy and so, in some ways, it's a sad day for america that we had an elected official, our highest level, try to undermine our democracy but on the other hand, it's also a day that shows that our institutions have

i am joined by former congresswoman stephanie murphy who was a democrat from florida.all of your work investigating this attack. today we saw some measure of accountability. the former president was under arrest blocks away from the u.s. capitol. what was it like for you having worked so hard on this committee to finally see it? >> it is great to be with you. i am so proud of the work that the select committee did as we did work to investigate the actions that led up to and ultimately activities that happened on january 6th. we permit presented that to the court of public opinion and today what we see is the beginning of accountability in the court of law for the former president. a lot of the indictment mirrored the work that we did on the select committee but i was really grateful to see that the department of justice and the special prosecutor were able to get testimony that we were not able to secure as a select committee as some witnesses pled the fifth or just did not show up before us or even invoked other privileges. that information has proven based on the bit

with me is brad howard, the vogle group principal and former chief of staff to congresswoman stephanie murphyresident biden, he said the republican view, conservative view of the economy is all about profits. i'm not sure what he means by that. will you explain what the policies of the conservatives are? >> yeah, that's absolutely fake news. look, under president trump we were all about making things and putting america first, getting tough with china, we saw wages increase. we saw lowest unemployment rate at the time for african americans, for women, go down the line, pre-pandemic, america was a lot better off than it is today and where president biden gets it wrong is people aren't worried about losing their jobs, they can't can pay their bills and that's where bidenomics fails. people aren't worried about green energy, they're worried about having enough green to pay for energy like gas a and utilities. maria: the policy of the climate change agenda is undermining efforts for growth. i don't see a growth plan. a new survey finds half of voters think the economy is in poor condition, 38% of

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