you had the segment earlier, the waterloo. >> waterloo, that bad? >> i like the illiteration.e the wisconsin ill illiteration. in the upcoming contest, the growth -- if you look at the trend lines, he overperforms in the latest public polling. donald trump's voters get there early. they are loyal and don't go anywhere. the growth opportunities of late have not been the trump vote. they've been the non-trump vote. >> i don't think that's works moving forward beyond wisconsin. that's the only place you're seeing any growth for ted cruz. if you look at some of the states coming up the rest of april, that's donald trump. in fact, i think ted cruz will be battling to win second place in a lot of those states and beat john kasich. a really tough road ahead. >> it goes by congressional district and then you get sort of an extra bit of delegation as you do tomorrow in wisconsin if you win the state overall. it's not winner-take-all. >> kellyanne and i speak, you are a geek and aers nerds. here are the trend lines, the analyt analytics. the question to both of you, do you think that do

we just talked for the last two minutes -- if it doesn't work, then it's waterloo. >> it's waterloo.on. mathematically, obviously, it's not a huge difference, but it does make it significantly more difficult if he doesn't get a bunch of delegates. >> i usually hang out with people who do marathons and triathlons. what is their pace when it comes out of wisconsin? does it slow down for donald trump? does it pick up for ted cruz? >> that's the big question for us. jim carney and charles benson, thank you both. >> glad to be here. >>> coming up, is he dark horse candidate for the republican nomination or a spoiler to donald trump and ted cruz's political ambitions? why both of those candidates are trying to block john kasich from the convention. >>> and a rare political postmortem the day before a make-or-break primary. members of the sanders campaign explain how things could have been done differently. why do so many businesses rely on the us postal service? because when they ship with us, their business becomeour business. that's why we make more e-commerce delivies to homes than anyo

>> i'll tell you, the establishment that is working for months to make it the waterloo are counting on it. they're thrilled by what they see in the poll. they believe that this is going to be a turning point in this campaign. the question is turning to what? look, we never seen anything like. this the establishment republicans going so vehemently against the leader in a nam natu nominating race. you have the governor who backed ted cruz. you have the speaker of the house who is from wisconsin and had very negative things to say about the tone of this campaign. you have a lot of business leaders that i talked to, influencers, people involved in campaigns for a long time. they're concerned on a policy level that they don't really know what donald trump stands for. but leading the charge without a doubt, won servetiv doubt, conservative talk radio. in most of the rest of the country and they have been united in what has been absolutely opposition to donald trump. i sat down with one of them, charlie sykes and i asked him about the abortion controversy with the interview from chris matthew

looking at your twitter feed will see many references to making the wisconsin primary donald trump's waterloo essentially. why are you thinking about it like tha? mr. mcintosh: this could be the primary which projecting forward -- he lost one state but clearly has over momentum. ted cruz beating him in wisconsin shows that when you get down to essentially the two-person race, he does not win. also that cruz can win outside of the south. a northern industrial state, not a red state, but rather one that has voted democratic in several recent presidential races. if that happens, it is a shift of where republicans are. you can think of a lot of different explanations for it. we like to take credit and say club for growth as educated him about not being a conservative and a smart thing to do is vote for ted cruz, but i also think voters are kind of maturing. early, it was i am at washington. i think things are on the wrong track. i will send a message. now they are thinking we still want to send a message and i think ted cruz does that for them, but others are saying wait a second. this could be r

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it happened at a ruckus party in waterloo, iowa.rrived to shut it down, taylor grabbed one of the officer's pistols. >> i just shot the man three times, right? everybody broke and run. and the other police, he was still down, right? so i rannover there and i shot him three times. it wasn't because i was on no drugs or alcohol. i wasn't impaired, you know. >> and afterwards? >> trying to get away, it wasn't no remorse or nothing. i wasn't even thinking about turning myself in or nothing like that, right? i hid for about five or six days in the cornfields before they caught me, right? they give me a natural life sentence, discharged by death. >> for the next 20 years he was transferred to various prisons due to gang activity and predatory behavior. the aging inmate landed in anamosa in 2002. shortly afterwards taylor chose to participate in a victim pact program. but it wasn't out of remorse. he was hoping it would earn him a transfer back to his favorite prison. >> first, i was going to use it to try to get back to ft. madison. you k

some say it could be the waterloo for cruz. jeff flock is on the ground in the hoosier state. tonewise, we know trump wrapped up a rally few hours ago. he is heading out to california. what are people on the ground in indiana telling you? cruz spent a lot of time there, so has trump. >> well, they have. but trump right now has the momentum. i'll tell you, if you were inside of that rally today, the one took place in the building behind me, you really felt that momentum that donald trump has. take a look at pictures of he and indiana legendary basketball coach bobby knight endorsing him. knight is only person who could come into a room, arena full of republicans say and say i don't give a damn about the republican party. i don't give a damn about the democratic party. i'm here because donald trump is the best man for this job. as that was going on, as you point out, carly fiorina and ted cruz campaigning in northern part of the state. they're now i believe in south bend, the third stop on the day. donald trump though, dismissing the whole carly fiorina piece as just an effort t

kicked off a bad week for the gop front-runner, and tuesday the wisconsin primary could be trump's waterloog in the polls. john kasich is here to talk about his battle to endure until the convention. while bernie sanders continues his surge leading in wisconsin and landing a record 44 million in d

trump need his waterloo in wisconsin? what's going on here?d week, controversial things. republicans thinking this is the time they are going to stop him and then lucy pulls the football away and charlie brown fails to kick it again. it could be different this time. we've not seen what happens when trump has a bad week it's followed by a loss in a primary. usually the primaries serve to bail him out of this problem. so what will the anti-trump -- i've talked to a lot of republicans who don't want trump but afraid to confront him publicly. after-of- if he loses in wisconsin double digits does it make them more comfortable to come out against him. more comfortable to use the convention as the tool to stop him. i think it does. that's why trump has so much at stake wednesday. >> chuck, you have inclusive one-on-one with hillary clinton. polls show she and donald trump are trailing in wisconsin. will this primary on tuesday be the one that puts bernie sanders and ted cruz for this matter on the fasttrack? >> for sanders it's an opportunity to rese

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here like -- >> that was supposed to be in the line of -- >> the first presidential candidate -- >> waterloo, that was one, you know. went right through it. >> see, i told you we had too much information for one night. we've all agreed to stay here and keep talking until tomorrow. i'm kidding. another break. we'll be right back. >>> look at the night for the democrats. four out of five for hillary clinton. though she was not asked, and did not respond, ala donald trump i am the presumptive nominee. as rachel and i have been pointing out tonight, the math is on her side. there's more than a path for her. steve kornacki does this sort of thing for a living. has the path. and all of it for hillary clinton. steve? >> yeah, let's take a look at the democratic delegate race. the name of the game here, pledge delegates, forget about the super delegates. it's about can bernie sanders catch her during the primary season in the pledge delegate count. we came into tonight, he was down about 240. his campaign needs to make up ground wherever it can. good news for bernie sanders. he won rhode island toni

. >> and of course the predictions have begun, willie, that this is donald trump's waterloo.-- >> it all ends? >> it's all ending, because he's had such a horrific couple of weeks. they knew this day was coming. but this is -- i will give the mainstream media and trump's critics on the right, give them credit. this is the first time, the first time they have pulled that blade out of their side. first time they're going to use this weapon against trump, predicting that the end is here. >> i think we all agree -- >> can we queue up barbra streisand "the way we were" tomorrow night? because it will be the end. scattered pictures. >> that will be the end. >> i think we all agree and even you agree it has been a terrible couple weeks for donald trump. you couldn't imagine a worse couple weeks. >> ever, ever. terrible. >> the reason it could matter is if he really wants to get to 1237 he's going to win every delegate he can so losing wisconsin could be the reason he doesn't get there. but if you look down the road two weeks from now in the state of new york, he's up by 30 points. >

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demographic, working class voters who feel separated from what's going on in -- >> wisconsin wasn't my waterloothank withdrew. we have a couple murphys here tonight. that's "hardball" for now. "all in with chris hayes," another chris, starts right now. >>> tonight on "all in." >> wisconsin resoundingly rejected his campaign. >> the stop-trump forces prevail as a trump senior adviser reportedly threatens to quit. >>> then after a big win in wisconsin, sanders sets his sights on new york. >> do not tell secretary clinton she's getting a little nervous. >> as clinton attacks the heart of the sanders campaign. >> the core of his campaign has been break up the banks and it didn't seem in reading his answers that he understood exactly how that would work. >> we'll debate that with sanders' backer robert reich and clinton supporter barney frank. >>> plus, why republicans care so much about voter i.d. laws. >> hillary clinton is about the weakest candidate the democrats have ever put up and i think photo i.d. is going to make a little bit of a different as well. >>> and florida governor rick scott meet

people have tried to thoord stop it here, to in a case their waterloo. >> what brought this on was the fact that john kasich could take silver out of all this and beat donald trump. the math is closer to kasich than trump. >> they see opportunity. certainly ted cruz sees opportunity, but so does. he would probably be much more to the liking of most of the voters here than ted cruz. they said they're going to come down to beating donald trump. i talked to a couple people who are long-time on the ground operatives here in the republican party. they both suggested even if case i recollect many they all think right now, in terms of the delegate count, with its proportional and districts emanu emanuel. they hope that's enough to keep donald trump from getting to the magic number this summer. . i'm joined by contributing editor and reporter of the "new york times." also significant report r of buzz feed news. quest to take back the white house. we should also note nbc's parent company, universal, has made an investment into buzzfeed. that's a lot for a book title on a friday afternoon. >> i

people have said for the senator this will be his waterloo, he has to win there.se that would be the most favorable environment. he trails in polls there and was explaining this agreement he has with john kashich of ohio where they're both focusing on states they're strong in and dropping at least more immediate spend'ing in the states they're not. but somehow john kashich might have ruined that today by saying, if you still want to vote for me in indiana, have it's it. so it is confusing, as is this, when a billionaire backer of all republican conservative causes in the past, says begin the choice i'm looking at, hillary clinton might not be so bad. the response from the charles koch interview that is still reverberating. ♪ if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis isn't it time to let the real you shine through? introducing otezla, apremilast. otezla is not an injection, or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. some people who took otezla saw 75% clearer skin after 4 months. and otezla's prescribing information has no requirement f

. >> is indiana ted cruz's waterloo? >> i don't know if it's going to come to that but it's an important pivot point for him. and frankly, it's an important pivot point for the conservative movement. there have been a lot of fights within this republican battle for the nomination. and one of them is the conservative movement. so you see the review and other groups saying, not trump, never trump. we didn't hear that just now from mike pence. he's within the conservative movement but he's one of those who did not want to sort of draw the line and say, a trump nomination would be ant th antithetical. >> you say there's a great pathway for him? >> i don't know if it's a great pathway but we've seen a lot of funny things happen with these delegates and we learn it's not over until they cast their votes. >> i have to leave it there, guys but i think that endorsement will get a lot of air time but you were here to see it live and first. thank you. >>> coming up, donald trump's speech in california draw similar protests to what

if trump wins indiana is that cruz's waterloo? is he finished? >> i don't know. a lot of people who don't like -- there are a lot of people who don't like donald trump and really don't like donald trump. never trump people are really never trump just as much as the trump supporters are super pro-trump. he is the best bet they see as anybody potentially maybe somehow stop him even though looking less and less likely every day. more than just about cruz. he has all the people and this entire movement kind of backing him up to an extent. even though maybe he should get out, there is argument he should get out if that happens, i don't think he will. deirdre: well as you have both said, rightly so, this is a unique cycle. thank you both. kat timpf and chuck rocha there. >> thank you. >>> big news for the cruz campaign but donald trump dismissed cruz's vp pick. >> he is millions of votes behind. he is hundreds of delegates behind. what is he, four or 500 delegates behind. he has got no path to victory and he is naming a vice-presidential candidate. i guess that is cute

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this alter case between trump's campaign and a reporter kicked off a bad week and tuesday's waterloohe is plupting in the polls. john kasich is here to talk about his battle to endure until the convention. sanders lands the record of indonations in march and a big surprise issue of 2016. the national heroin epidemic. i'll talk to one young mayor about his city's controversial plan to create legal injection sites. first, i have often predicted the political demise of donald trump. this time i might be right. he ended political hell week. his campaign manager was arrested for misdemeanor battery, he flip-flopped on abortion and said controversial things about nukes and wisconsin and polls have him trailing ted cruz by ten points. among women, his disapproval is bias mall. 73% of women disapprove. after wisconsin the next big prizes are new york on april 19 and pennsylvania on april 26th. yes, recent polls show trump leading his home state by a large margin but on a close race with john kasich in pennsylvania and here is the unpleasant truth for trump. both states have rules that put po

cruz on the republican side banking on a victory in wisconsin, hoping badger state becomes trump's waterlooght donald trump and hillary clinton pull off wins in this unpredictable open primary? back now with the panel, mary, let me start with you. mitch mcconnell spoke to our colleague about how important electability is to him when it comes to picking a republican presidential candidate. take a listen. >> i don't think it should be a particularly surprising observation that i'd like a candidate for president who can win. does that shock any of you? >> do you think that -- >> i'm not going to get into who fits the description but i will say the nominee's going to be somebody who can get 1,237 delegate votes and i hope's a person who can appeal to a broad swath of the american public and win the election. >> i'm not asking you to read the mind of mitch mcconnell there, but who do you think he might be talking about? do you think he's saying that that's not donald trump or ted cruz? >> i'm going to venture a guess that's what he's talking about. the problem is much of the republican electorat

looking at your twitter feed will see many references to making the wisconsin primary donald trump's waterlooly. why are you thinking about it

. >> reporter: they do believe, so many people i talked to, that this will be trump's waterloo, not that he will go on and win wisconsin and delaware, but he still needs 500 delegates to get to that magic number. he could win so few that it would make it virtually impossible for him to go into the convention with enough delegates to take the nomination, erica. that's what they're working toward. >> and that's what we'll be watching the next couple of days as this moves forward. chris jansing, thank you. >>> senior adviser to our principal pac, he's also ceo of the terrorist -- anti-terrorist group. >> the anti-trump ads specifically targeting the insults at women, the comments donald trump has made. why are you going after women? is that where you think you could make the most inroads? >> it is one of the places. quite frankly we've been warning for some time, well over a month, that we believe trump is unelectable in the fall campaign, and driven in large part by a large segment of women, republican women, that have turned against him. where there are events in the last couple of weeks,

kicked off a bad week for the gop front-runner, and tuesday the wisconsin primary could be trump's waterloo as he is plummeting in the polls. john kasich is here to talk about his battle to endure until the convention. while bernie sanders continues his surge leading in wisconsin and landing a record 44 million in donations in march. plus, a big surprise issue of 2016, the national heroin epidemic. i'll talk to one young mayor about his city's controversial plan to create legal injection sites. first, i have often predicted the political demise of donald trump. this time i might be right. he just ended political hell week. his campaign manager was arrested for misdemeanor battery. he flip-flopped on abortion, said some controversial things about nukes. now wisconsin votes on tuesday which polls have him trailing ted cruz by ten points. but most problematic for trump, among women his disapproval is abysmal, a cnn poll recently found that 73% of women disapprove of the gop fro front-runn front-runner. after wisconsin the next big prizes are new york on april 19 and pennsylvania on april 26. y

that is his waterloo. >> amanda, this reeks of a tactical move, something you do in the short term that isn't fully vetted. but we were quoting from rent, no day but today. >> we did the harmony too. >> if ted cruz can't win today there might not be a tomorrow. is that the calculation here? >> i'm not sure this is all like about winning the hour or the day. i do agree that time of is the essence and going up to tuesday but cruz does have a good chance to build momentum here. trump had a great night last night. let's not forget these were mid-atlantic nornleastern states designed by the republican primary calendar to boost a moderate liberal republican that turned out to be donald trump. of course he was going to do well there. i think ted cruz has a good chance of winning indiana because it looks like iowa. i'm a midwest girl and grew up in michigan and indiana. i know the area very well. i can see cruz playing well. donald trump is kind of a performer and that does rub people the wrong way. cruz is send spending a lot of time laying the groundwork. he talked about how donald trump come

you know, they knew that they were going to come into wisconsi and make wisconsin their waterloo. but what they found out is ground troops are already there, especially with conservative talk radio. i mean, they have been hammering him locally, local conservative talk radio been hammering him for weeks. but also you have to keep in mind scott walker, paul ryan. all right. scott walker's endorsed ted cruz, paul ryan hasn't endorsed anybody. but clearly those two guys, their brand of politics has been really big time conservative issues. >> and they've won. >>and nd they've won. happy about in wisconsin. >> they do. so when they look at that brand of politics, that works better than what the trump brand of po wlitics is right now. >> all right, david, we've been here i want to say four weeks s ago. you were convinced trump wasn't going to get the nomination. two weeks ago you wanted to say you were convinced, but you weren't comfortable saying that anymore. where are you today? >> morally defeated. >> something's changed though. >> yeah, something has changed. l these people keep wa

you know, they knew that they were going to come into wisconsin and make wisconsin their waterloo.t they found out is ground troops are already there, especially with conservative talk radio. i mean, they have been hammering him locally, local conservative talk radio been hammering him for weeks. but also you have to keep in mind scott walker, paul ryan. all right. scott walker's endorsed ted cruz, paul ryan hasn't endorsed anybody. but clearly those two guys, their brand of politics has been really big time conservative issues. >> and they've won. >> and they've won. >> so they have something to be happy about in wisconsin. >> they do. so when they look at that brand of politics, that works better than what the trump brand of politics is right now. >> all right, david, we've been here i want to say four weeks ago. you were convinced trump wasn't going to get the nomination. two weeks ago you wanted to say you were convinced, but you weren't comfortable saying that anymore. where are you today? >> morally defeated. >> something's changed though. >> yeah, something has changed. all

voters who feel separated from what's going on in -- >> wisconsin wasn't my waterloo. thank withdrew. we have a couple murphys here tonight. that's "hardball" for now. "all in with chris hayes," another chris, starts right now. >>> tonight on "all in." >> wisconsin resoundingly rejected his campaign. >> the stop-trump forces prevail as a trump senior adviser reportedly threatens to quit. >>> then after a big win in wisconsin, sanders sets his sights on new york. >> do not tell secretary clinton she's getting a little nervous. >> as clinton attacks the heart of the sanders campaign. >> the core of his campaign has been break up the banks and it didn't seem in reading his answers that he understood exactly how that would work. >> we'll debate that with sanders' backer robert reich and clinton supporter barney frank. >>> plus, why republicans care so much about voter i.d. laws. >> hillary clinton is about the weakest candidate the democrats have ever put up and i think photo i.d. is going to make a little bit of a different as well. >>> and florida governor rick scott mee

indiana will be his waterloo.s about stopping him in indiana because the symbolism of stopping him in indiana and the math of stopping him in indiana is vital. >> but the assumption means that's people who are supporting kasich or cruz dislike trump so much that they'll jump to the other guy to stop trump which i just think is a lot of ifs and a assum assumpti assumptions. >> they're so different. >> they are very different candidates. >> it's less about voters and the outside groups. an outside group in indiana running pro-cruz, anti-kasich ads. they need every dollar spent against trump. >> a vote for john kasich, ain't no way in hell i'm going to vote for ted cruz and vice versa. and vice versa. >> it costs ted cruz not much to cede oregon to john kasich. the direction of what the map already is. >> what do they do when they get to the convention if all this works? do they run together? >> there will now be a week of negative ads against donald trump. >> donald trump has a big lead going into tomorrow's contest

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this has sort of become the waterloo moment, if you will, for ted cruz.we do not have to win there. fifty-seven delegates. even if you give them all, he will still be prohibited the behind. donald trump now within 252 delegates within closing this deal. anthony williams is with us right now. we begin with you. do or die. for ted cruz and the carly field arena ticket. i think that it is. >> i do believe, neil, it is a must when. he, obviously, is mathematically limited. his strategy is about prevention. trump does not continue to acquire these top delegates. we have trump outperforming and also, he won every county in those five states. he really was able to prove the fact that he was moving strong. what happens is, if trump or two lose in indiana, there is still competition there. justifying the fact that he can stay in the race. >> i know that you are supporting donald trump. how many of those comments come out of the blue? anything for ted cruz. the fact of the matter is double ted cruz. a contested convention. you have ted cruz on the ballot. a democra

for donald, he'll have to decide if it's his waterloo or alamo and he'll have to make that difference and to quote "invictus." he was the pastor of his fate and master of his control. >> jon, you're back here right now. if he doesn't get to that big number of 1,237 we have this open convention. means. first day a vote over who is >> that's right. this is unchartered territory in our lifetimes. last time we had a multiballot open contested convention was 1948 so have that argument over rules and first ballot which essentially follows how the all those become free to how to vote and you have an entirely new election with simply those 2,500 delegates. >> they have all the power at that point, matthew dowd. a lot think if he doesn't win on the first ballot he can't get there. if ted cruz doesn't win on the second ballot they'll look for somebody else. >> their highest number for him is trump and ted cruz for the second. trump said he doesn't care about the rules but the rules matter and he'll have a problem if he doesn't figure that out before the convention. >> thank you. now to those fr

it's his waterloo, and i k kno his campmpaign manager was sayig it's n a must-win but it is a must-win, isn't it >> r repter: yeah, ted cruz thinks all of yoyou arfull of baloney hehere. he wouldld point out that so fa donanaldrump, talking about donald trump h has so many mimillion more votes than ted cruz. donald trump has lesess than -- before t tonight, less than 40% of the votes cast in the reblican primaries so far. there e is clearly a sentiment for somebody els and you're right. neil: to be fair, that startrted out with - -- ffjeff. believe e me my point is, it did start out with 17 candndides. >> reporter: startrted out that way, but winnowed downwn here fr a while e no neil: fair enough. >> he's had fficulty, tonight may be dififferent. he's had d difficulty getting over 50%. neil: cruz had a l lotot more difficulty.. >> reporter: this is true.e. but the goal i is to get to a cocontested convention. neither r of these guys c can c out to the convention with moroe of anything. if it gets to o beyond a second ballotot, thinks he's got more than 50% of the indidian delegates tie