empty pedestals mark where gods and deities once stood. on some, only the feet remain.y all have been looted. this one is 100 miles northeast of angkor wat on a remote mountain called sandak. >> this was hit very heavily by the looting gangs. they found gold. they found statues. they found many, many things. >> reporter: that's brad gordon, an american lawyer who's been working for the cambodian government for ten years, tracking down its stolen treasures. he brought us to sandak with his team of investigators, archaeologists, and art scholars. >> this is so cool. >> reporter: in the temple's crumbling courtyard, little remains, mostly empty pedestals scattered among the sralao trees. >> it's remarkable just how much stuff is scattered on the ground. >> yes. it's like a pedestal graveyard. >> we've all seen, in museums, these statues with no feet on them, and i don't think people realize the feet were hacked off because in order to steal them, that's the easiest way to get them off the pedestal. >> we know when the looters came to sites like this, the first thing they t

that promise, at the pedestal of the statue of liberty are not words just added later, as steven miller suggested at the press con ference. they matter. those were the solemn promise of this country to the world. not just that we take the best of the best. we take those yearning to be free. you know those words from the poem better than i do. >> look, your giving some sweeping statement about america and patriotism and i totally agree, that's why i'm here suving in the white house. but let's be honest. did you ever get this exercise about the illegal immigrants who were deported many times and killed people like kate steinle? have you ever felt this impassioned about it? because you act like everyone is the same and that's not true. and what the senator sdwhz president were saying yesterday is. a merit-based immigration system should be considered as a way to make sure that we are keeping wages higher and remaining competitive as america -- an

he has just placed 2012's mama grizzly on the highest of conservative pedestals, saying of sarah palin, "i believe she's done more for the republican party than anyone since ronald reagan." let's recap the perspective of that accomplishment. ronald reagan served two terms as governor of california, two terms as president of the united states, and helped to end the cold war. sarah palin, she cut out halfway through her first term as governor. historical significance? i doubt it. and senator demint who backed romney in 2008 says he still has an open mind about the 2012 race. the fact that he has a mind is news. shouldn't say that. >>> up next, our panelist is back. could sarah palin really win the 2012 republican nomination? you're watching "hardball" on msnbc. i'm just not sure what... what is it? oh just return it. returning gifts is easier than ever with priority mail

and another not on the pedestal?-wide project called" monument lab" is asking those questions and more. at washington square park, we met jane golden, head of the¡ mural arts organization' that's putting on the exhibition. is there a problem with this? >> no, i don't think there's a problem. i think we need to broaden our definition of what a monument is. and we need to make sure that everyone's story is heard. >> brown: golden's organization, commissioned 20 artists to make works that respond to a not-so- simple question: what is an appropriate monument for today's philadelphia? each stands for nine weeks, and laboratory kiosks are set up for the public to comment and create their own designs. the project was conceived three years ago but now, after the violence in charlottesville this summer, it opens amid a national debate about monuments and history, one that's embroiled philadelphia as well, where there have been calls to take down a prominent statue of frank rizzo, a former mayor and police chief both loved and

when he took over he promised to knock shakespeare off his pedestal. his sense of what he calls the duty to experiment has turned the company around and won him critical acclaim. he will step down from his post in 2012. i'm very pleased to have him back to talk about the complexity, the allenges and the genius of william shakespeare, all part of our series "why shakespeare?" welcome back. >> lovely be here. >> rose: since you were here you've announced you ear leaving. >> yup. it will be ten yearsext year and, of course, i thought about whether to go for a third term as it were and i felt like i would spend time in a rehearsal roomith no queue behind the door. and it's time to hand it over to someone else. there's a great bunch of brit irk directors comin through. >> rose: well, there's a list of people, kenneth branagh and michael grandage. there a good people willing to step in. >> there are good people, colleagues of mine, there's a terrific field and somereally good women dirtors as well. >> rose: when you look back there's a chance for you to sort

(laughter) >> i like having them on the pedestal but what's fun about this show it's a very... you sort of take them... you go behind the scenes and see them off the pedestal. >> jon: right, right, right. >> and they're like you and me and everybody else and no matter how high powered these people are and how capable... and i think i play a woman in washington who really is... she is... she does see the big picture. she says the right things. she's very passionate, strong moral compass. then she goes home and in her own kitchen she can't handle anything. so it's very.... >> jon: i can see your enthusiasm. you know, does that happen often that the synapses begin to fire on a character? how much dreck do you wade through before you find these... is it difficult to find something that gets your eyes sparked up? >> i think it is these days for a lot of different reasons and, quite frankly, although i wasn't looking for t.v., i was a very happy guilty cable television watcher. >> jon: sure. cable is very underrated. (laughter) it's a brilliant business. >> this story could have ambu

this is probably signage, for instance, at the base of the pedestal where these are.ut, also, you know, the city has a number of years now behind it of, you know, building up a lot of trust with the public, publishing open data. you know, there are millions of rows of open data on the portal type of people have come to depend upon that, where the buses are, where the trains are, where the taxis are. really, the only difference here is that data is not collected by the machines. it's collected by sensors out in the environment. we hope that the effects for citizens are just as nice as the train trackers and the bus trackers and those sorts of things. >> charlie, what if the government changes its mind about how it wants to use these sensors? who is monitoring what they are doing or not doing with this data? >> well, this is one of the things as john mentioned in terms of transparency. all of the sensors that were in the array today, any new sensors that will go in, all of the software that's there, any new software that will go in is going to be reviewed a technical re

statue stood, that pedestal will start to come down in richmond. they apparently started to dismantle it yesterday. it will be gone by the end of the year. in july of this year, they brought down the robert e. lee statue that was pride of place in charlottesville, virginia. tall way back in 2016, high school students started a petition to have that robert e. lee statue taken down. the city council voted the following year it should be taken down. the whole question of what was going to happen to that statue was caught up in legal wrangling, neo-nazi white supremacist and confederate groups seized at the very threat of their pretext of holding the unite the right rally in charlottesville. the statue at the center of that didn't come down until july of this year. since then, just a couple weeks ago, the klan and neo-nazi and neoconfederate groups that organized the riots in protest of that statue, having a plan to take it down, those groups were found liable to pay $25 million to the people who were hurt by the white supremacist rioters in charlottes

each other off pedestals.w what? what it's all about is everyone being on equal ground and respecting each other's -- go ahead, karen. >> the other problem that i had with the piece is it completely, again, we see this type and again from conservatives, they have no idea how the world works and how people are living their lives. there are women and men who don't want to get married, who choose not to get married as a way to live their lives. this completely ignores that and it completely ignores the fact that just as women's roles are changing in our culture, so are men's roles. i have a suggestion if conservatives are really tweaked about this issue of marriage, they should go ahead and support marriage equality. i'm sure that would kick those numbers right back up. >> good luck with that, karen. okay. "the new york times" had an interesting suggestion for republicans who want to improve their standing with women. karen, you have already mentioned it, an editorial this weekend points out the one easy step the

he's certaly falling off the pedestal. look, he had a great run. you know. you've interviewed him many times. he's been a good banker. some of these trades were unforgivable and the losses could reach $2 billion to $3 billion. where i disagree with the two of you, erin. i think this rush to more regulation of the banks and u.s. financial services is kind of the wrong remedy. i mean, u.s. financial services are the most overregulated industry not just in the united states but in the world. when you talk about a bank like jpmorgan it is regulated as you know by the fcc, by the federal reserve, by the treasury department, by the fdic. we have -- >> wait. i'm not sure either was calling for more reguonstev a in, i ink less regulation doesn't make any sense. you've got people like lloyd blankfine asking for better regulation. maybe that's what jamie dimon is saying. better regulations would make sense. better risk management internally is what's really needed he. >> we agree on that. look, let's look at who are the losers here. thank goodness the losers, erin, ar

because he has fallen off the pedestal. he has had a great run as you know. he's been a great banker. but this was -- some of the trades were unforgivable and as you said the losses could reach $2 billion to $3 billion. here's where i think the disagree with the two of you. i think this rush to more regulation of the banks and u.s. financial services is kind of the wrong remedy. u.s. financial services are the most overregulated industry, not just in the united states, but in the world. when you talk about a bank like jp morgan it is regulated as you know by the s.e.c., by the federal reserve, by the treasury department and by the fcc -- >> i'm not sure either one of us was calling for more regulation. you have lloyd blankfein asking for better regulation. i think that's what dimon is saying, better regulation would make more sense. i think better internal risk management would make better sense. >> i think we both agree on that. let's look at the losers here. thank goodness the losers are not the taxpayers because it doesn

. >> reporter: the woman seen sitting on the pedestal, surrounded by police. at times, holding up a shirt saying "trump care makes us sick." ferry boats rushing hundreds of tourists to safety on this busy fourth of july holiday. >> unauthorized person climbing the statue of liberty at this time. >> reporter: as one point earlier, she scaled the statue's leg. witnesses describing the scene. nypd watching this closely. surveillance images coming in as their helicopter hovers above. >> she was just walking around, waving to the crowd. >> reporter: this unfolding just hours after seven members of the group rise and resist were arised at the statue during a protest of president trump's immigration policy. >> we had no idea she was going to do this. >> whit johnson joins us now. and whit, throughout it all, police were maintaining contact with this woman, and now there's a major development? >> reporter: and tom, that's right. we are just getting word that officers were able to reach that woman on the pedestal. they're in the process of trying to bring her down. the

and i see every time theres with a chip on that pedestal, every time he stepped off that pedestal, i realized how much i was like him and how much he was like me. >> rose: you read tavis smiley's book. >> i did. >> rose: how did that inform you? called death of a king. >> death of a king. it is a wonderful depiction of the final 365 days of dr. king's life. and it shows one, his-- the nature in which he was a facilitator for the black community into the white community and the white community into the black community. i think the one thing this movie shows that you never really see is, you know, the doctor king with his core group of advertisers, leaders and friends. and that frustration between stoakly and ralph abernathy an all those guys. and dr. king having to moderate that and then going to the world of lb swrrks and have to moderate that. >> rose: knowing that j edgar hoover was after him and all that. >> knowing he was after him. and he was just a phenomenal politician. i don't think nufer people give him respect for the politician he was. he played on both sides of the coin.

i want the sport to be on top of the pedestal and the players to be at the top of the pedestal. the players are the game. shannon: joining us is jim, a writer for the associated press. thanks for being near. >> thank you. shannon: many of the owners would have had to approve this. do you think he stood a chance of becoming an owner in a limited or in another way? >> well, realistically, no. i think you could see that written between the lines in a statement of the commissioner yesterday. it has been almost one week since rush limbaugh announced he was part of an ownership group, and the nfl does nothing without due diligence and deliberation, and the commissioner said yesterday that, no, he did not have a chance. they moved to take him out of the group. shannon: he knows how to make money and how to draw attention to whatever he is involved with. do you think that would have been a benefit to the st. louis rams? and what about players that would have boycotted him and not take in the field? do we take the objections seriously? >> well, you know, owners would sign, and players wo

statue stood, that pedestal also start to come down in richmond. they apparently started dismantling yesterday. they see it will be gone by the end of the year. in july of this year, you might remember, they also brought down the robert e. lee statue that stood in charlottesville, virginia. it was all the way back in 2016 that high school students from charlottesville petition to have that robert e. lee taken down. the city council voted the following year, 2017, that it should be taken down. but while the whole question of what was going to happen to that statuesque up in legal wrangling in 2017, new nazi white supremacists and neo-confederate groups seized on the very threat that the robert e. lee statue might come down as their pretext for holding their unite the right rally in charlottesville. the statue of the center of that didn't actually come down until july of this year. since then, just a couple of weeks ago, the client and neo-nazi and neo-confederate groups that organize that deadly charlottesville riots, the protests that statue in --

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sean: we put these pop stars on a pedestal. i didn't think his music was very deep. billie jean, a.b.c., doesn't matter if you're black or white, it was catchy pop tunes. but people -- peep -- people identify with stars, idolize them, put them on a pedestal. did any of this contribute to reconstructive surgery that rendered him unrecognizable in did any of that contribute to the conflict that want -- caused him to want to use drugs and sedate himself to this level? >> i don't think we'll ever know. the fact is he was one of the most famous persons in the world. that's got to do something to you. i don't know what that's like but i suspect most people would have problems with that. and i'm going to get criticized -- he wasn't the world's greatest entertainer. sammy davis jr. was. he could sing, dance, play strumets, starred on broadway. ok. now everybody can get mad. sean: niger? >> well, we can go back and forth about that. my generation and sophie's, i was in high school the day after thriller -- >> am i in a rocking chair over here? >> you're too old, larry, you're

>> once it got off the pedestal, yes. >> rose: absolutely. we know when it got off the pedestal. but that was the defining moment for you, getting it off the pedestal. >> yes. >> rose: you saw your future intoer in that moment. >> i don't know about my future. that's a little pretentious. >> rose: okay. and we wouldn't want to be pretentious. you saw your... >> possibilities. >> rose: where you wanted to go. >> yes. >> rose: you saw your exploration. >> i thought once the object dissolved into the field it was wide open. >> rose: you could do more, feel more, experience more, have more. >> not me, everyone else. >> rose: no, no, the art. >> yes. >> rose: okay. what was this thing about you and a child and... what was it... butcher paper? >> paper was expensive, it was right after the war and they used to wrap the meat in this pink butcher paper. >> rose: right. >> and. .. >> rose: where are we? >> we here in san francisco and i'm five or six years old and we lived in the sand dunes and next to us was a family and recently a stoptor told his brother henry that richard has had beco

. >> the notion that the soon-elected leader of this country would put julian assange on a pedestal compared to the men and women of the intelligence community, i think it should bring about a cry no matter whether you are republican or democrat. >> president obama received a final report today briefed by the intelligence community leadership. the report monday we'll discuss who was behind the meddling and their goal. >> do you think in the report next week that you all will ascribe a motivation to putin for the election attempt? >> yes, we will ascribe a motivation. >> in your 53 years of intelligence, is assessing that among the hardest tasks that ask our intelligence services to do? >> it always has been. >> it says the obama administration shares some of the plan after failing to forcefully retaliate after the china stole information from the office security management database. >> our office has no policy and the snow strategy for cyber deterrence. this appearance of weakness has been provocative to our adversaries who have attacked us again and again with growing severity. >> after hea

he has fallen from his pedestal. his biggest challenge is to be seen as someone taking charge. >> the government hopes that economic stimulus packages will help the aid in the economy and also the presidents approval ratings. >> this is the period of managing expectations. and so far he's done it quite well because in a way expectations begin to become more realistic but at the same time, we do see the start -- the beginning of new focus on areas neglected in the past. >> and he continues to be praised in his education programs for the poor and also a contentious commitment to stopping drug traffickers. he has four years left in office and must hope they're better than the first years >> one of the last mobsters in new york city is now facing the consequences. >>reporter: a braisen airport crime in 1978. masked gunmen make off with 1 million in jewels in new york. >> authorities believe this to be the largest robbery in american history >> the culprits italian mafia boss's' ruled the city for decades. >> more than 35

cops it to climb the pedestal to bring the woman down.oney island today. joey chestnut won his 11th straight title and broke his record. 74 dogs does buns in 10 minutes. the judges counted 64 but they forgot an expire plate. and the supereter, 38 franks and buns to claim her fifth tithes but fell sort of her record last year to 47. now back to the "hannity" special. >> ♪ >> sean: president trump accomplishments. the president hit the road and held rallies across the country. discussed building up our miltary and the progress in north korea and so much that the media igdmors. -- ignores. take a look. >> we will not be taken advantage of anymore. we are a great country. we will be an even greater country. hopefully greater that know we have ever been before. we have such potential. >> [cheers and applause]. >> we just secured a record $700 billion in funding to rebuild our miltary which was this very sad shape. >> [cheers and applause]. >> we have approval for next year, 716-billion dollars. we are ordering new planes. we make the best in t

king on a pedestal. and also i think it's dehumanizing to put him on a pedestal and call him as the key figure of this movement, right? we leave out a lot of key people like diane nash and ella baker a number of other folks who also helped make martin luther king who he is and who helped and stood by him. >> they were at the forefront of the nonviolent movement in fact and some suggest they even led it. but i'd just like to go back to the leadership thing for ajust a moment. we have you on to talk about this from time to time because you make your point well. doesn't it help to have someone that is able to communicate those messages in a way like dr. king was able to do? >> right yes. but i think that we're seeing new forms of that through different types of media. and i think through social media in particular. you have seen the emergence of black twitter particularly after the murder of trayvon martin and then in terms of -- >> black twitter is for our audience? >> black twitter is basically a black de

-- >> i put nobody up on a pedestal. i mean, none of us should ever wish for a pedestal. >> what are you talking about, his skills then, political skills? >> yes, his political skills, absolutely, and his ability to get things done. but the fact is that people do come back. this is a forgiving country. we do love redemption stories. there are scandals and scandals. this one was just such bad judgment and so tawdry. it's just got an air of just sort of you don't want to go there. it's so unpleasant and uncomfortable. >> it is unpleasant and uncomfortable. there also, gene robinson, seems to be a generational divide. the younger people are, the more they just laugh at him. the older they are, the more they're creeped out by it. poor anthony's in the middle of it. he's trying to use new technology. he's trying to be a social media maven in his personal life, and he doesn't even know what snap chat is. like that video disappears in second. seriously? >> he really ought to get like a technology adviser who's under 25. >> he r

it seems like one of those instances where you sort of put somebody up there on a pedestal and he's ae whole world and maybe there's a whole something else entirely going on beneath the surface. but we'll know a lot more later. >> once again we have put a hero on a pedestal and it appears allegedly that he has let us down. we don't know if this is domestic violence, or mistaken identity, put that out. but there is a woman dead. there is only one suspect at this time. three quotes jumped out at me, dr. arthur kellermann, more than twice as many women are killed with a gun used by their husband or intimate acquaintances using other means. the literature suggests having a gun in your house to protect your family is like bringing a time bomb into your house. david hemingway from harvard, no study has shown a gun in the home reduces the likelihood of burglary, robbery, abuse or any other crime against women. it seems that we in society have this idea, this myth that a gun in the home will protect us when the facts show over and over that they make us more vulnerable to being shot by that g

to get across that message that this pedestal that many men thought women were on, they were spared the necessity to earn a living, that was a pit because it was never true, for poor women, to get them to see that what they regarded as favors in the in the wonderful expression that justice brennan used, the pedestal much more often than not turned out to be a cage, cuz it confined women, and limited what they could do. so to get the court to understand that there really was gender based discrimination, that was a challengeing job. >> i was just going to say, as ground breaking as your work as a litigator was i think notorious big will live on a lot longer. >> rose: and what do you think of that. >> i think it is amazing that an 83 year old woman should be notorious. >> but i have said i understand where it comes from, you know the famous rapper, not orious big, well, he and i were both born an bread in brooklyn, so we have that in common. but more than that, i think that the nyu student who dreamed up the notorious rbg started with my decision in shelby county gave, the decision that to

certainly true in other cultures in the world, celebrities are really placed on a high pedestal. and this is something in mr. williams' case, it humanizes the mood disorders. >> does it make them more vulnerable? >> i think that it does, but at the same time, at the end of the day, this is something to keep in mind, when we're dealing with something like depression or bipolar disorder, these used to be mental conditions and we thought they were solely psychological, but now we know that there are brain abnormalities here. just as we would say to someone diagnosed with cancer or heart disease, we wouldn't say snap out of it, or you need to stop feeling the way you're feeling. and we can't expect the same also from individuals who have been diagnosed with some of these severe and pervasive mental illnesses. >> dr. james, thank you for helping us understand all of this. >> thank you for your time. >> coming up, like robin williams, wayne brady is considered a master of improvisation. what robin williams meant to him and other young comedians. >>> the most amazing fake brain ever. >>

of human, but julian bond does not belong on a pedestal. he always loved to be best, among the people. my father-in-law is known for quoting, why can't more black people just be like you. the title of the poem, "look at that girl." look at that girl shake that thing. we can't all be martin luther king. julian bond died this weekend at the age of 75. he will be a man remembered as someone who won some and lost some, handsome and funny, a hero, yes, but more importantly, a real person. the a man loved by his family and beloved by his community. and i am grateful for his life. and that does it for us tonight. rachel will be back here tomorrow. you can catch me on my own show, melissa harris perry, and can you follow us on twitter at mhp catch me on my own show weekend mornings 10:00 a.m. "first look" is up next. >>> it's tuesday, august 18th. right now on "first look," the military is mobilizing to battle wildfires that transformed landscapes into war zones at a cost of of $1 million a week. >>> the death toll rises in what's being called wors

one of them put this pineapple down on a pedestal to see if people would think it's art.e snap chat "i made art." a few days later, they went back and put a fancy glass case on top of it. it stayed on display for six days. people came by. the festival says they were in on the joke, but i don't know if i believe that. >> shepard: what sort of feedback did they get? >> i think people thought it was funny. one of the guy's friends asked and art lecturer if the pineapple was part of the exhibit. they said, you can see what they tried to do with the glass. if you're wondering why they had a pineapple with them, apparently gray brought it as a joke because jack is allergic, this is the best case scenario. they needed to get rid of it quickly so they put it on the pedestal. >> shepard: mostly sugar and delicious. thank you. on this day in 1941, the british captured a german submarine and got a leg up on world war ii. inside the sub, an encryption machine that the germans used to send coded messages. the british let the sub sink to cover their tracks. in the u.k., alan turning an

to get across that message that this pedestal that many men thought women were on, and they were spared the necessity to earn a living, that was a myth because it was never true for poor women. to get them to see 245 what they regarded as favors in the wonderful ex,, expression that justin brennan used, the pedestal much more often than not turned out to be a cage that confined women and limited what they could do. so to get the court to understand that there really was gender-based dises krim nation, that was a challenging-- a challengeing job. >> i was just going to say, i have the sense of ground breaking as your work as a litigator was, i think notorious-- notorious rbg go live on a lot longer. (applause). >> rose: and what do you think of that? >> what? i think it's absolutely amazing. that at 83 year old woman should be-- . >> rose: notorious. >> but have i said, i understand where it comes from. you know the famous rapper notorious big. >> rose: yes. >> well, he and i were both born in brooklyn. so we have that in common. and more than that, i think that the nyu student who dream

why would he be holden to putin to put him on a pedestal? why would he question whether he will do sanctions and what does the russians have personally and financial financially. >> more importantly, we have to find what he's suggesting to take our country forward so we can agree or disagree or compromise but he's got to get to work on his job. for some reason he thinks his job is a reality tv show. >> it is so true. >> we now learned that the attorney general now has had a third meeting with the russians that was not revealed. reportedly revealed and coming from private sessions yesterday. the questions we were asking before, why is it? why do they lie all of their meetings with their russians. >> well, mueller, as you mentioned a highly respected guy he will do a good job inside the justice department, nonetheless, a great person. we have congressional investigation from the intelligence committee house and senate. hopefully, they'll be useful inside republican congress. we need an outside independent commission to look into this. it is bi