to quote nih -- deprive nih of a coal ownership interest. and mr. bancel just confirmed a moment ago, that moderna a band in that painted application of the share control with nih. to be clear, moderna's scientists and engineers made many contributions of their own. these people, and their work deserve credit and celebration to. but moderna cannot claim the vaccines value for itself. the american people, the most important creators of the value of this vaccine deserve a voice in the debate over the company's prices. to quote senator casey, our partnership should not be distinguished just because we think the pandemic is over. to justify price increases, moderna also points to four and a half a billion dollars in our indie commitments this year. but four and a half a billion dollars is easily doable for this company. in 2021 and 2022, moderna made over 20 billion in profits. the company has been a so spectacularly successful that many of its executives and early investors became billionaires, including mr. bunts all. as i speak right now, mr. bancel'

bancel, moderna recently paid nih $400 million.o you believe it creates a conflict of interest for the government employees who are making money now off of the vaccines also be dictating the policy about how many times went have to take the vaccine? >> we simply made a $4 million payment to the nih. it's for the government to assess how that. >> it creates a conflict of interest for the same people deciding the policy of how often we have to take the vaccine to also be making money the more times we take the vaccine. yes or no. >> is there a higher incident of myocarditis among adolescent males 16 to 24 after taking your vaccine? >> thank you for the question, senator. first letden me say we care deey about safety and we are working with. >> is there a higher incident of myocarditis of boys 16 to 24 after they take the vaccine? >> from the cdc we have shown myocarditis for people who get the vaccine and those that get the covid infection. >> you're saying for 16 to 24 among males who take the covid vaccine the risk of myocarditis i

the nih tries to claim that somehow to never touch that that virus.nd the virus at that point was not airborne in just a perfect match for what was set off in the nih project proposal. they did not touch that virus just left it. what a joke. and with the defense department start but agency that outlined in precise detail the exact gain of function technique to explain those unusual features of the pandemic virus talk to the people who work in this field they will tell you if you apply for funding what work you've already started to know that you can finish this is what they were doing and wuhan but they could only have done it with the active involvement of nih scientists we cannot even design these themselves. no one is saying that doctor fauci or anyone else unleashed the pandemic on purpose fauci has dedicated his life to fighting disease but now there is very little doubt one of his weapons of choice to fight did lead to the pandemic actually that was not an unthinkable accident and explicitly told to stop this kind of research but he did it anywa

fauci went to his deputy and asked him to brush him up on what nih involvement in china was. there could have been fear, if it came out of a lab, there could have been blowback to the nih. people look at these emails and they have been interpreted differently by different parties. some feel it was an effort to downplay the lab theory, others say it is just science at work. host: how does one paper shape the debate so much as you described it? guest: it was very influential, this paper, cited in 2000 media outlets. dr. fauci described it from the white house podium in april. dr. francis collins wrote a blog post about it in march 2020. it had a large impact. at the time, people didn't know that it first started being formulated in discussions between scientists and top government officials. host: if you want to join the conversation, (202) 748-8001 for republicans to call in. democrats, (202) 748-8000. independent, (202) 748-8002. jimmy tobias is our guest. the headline of his piece from the nation, unredacted nih emails show effort to rule out the lab origin of covid. that is

let me start by saying that we have a lot of respect, great respect for the nih team and what the nih does for this country and is really important for signs that the industry might not find. what happened when the sequence came online is our team at were working on the technology. moderna's like an operating system. we spent years doing is developing all the tools to make products. >> i do not need to be rude but is it not absolutely true that the nih was also doing that? had done research for many years in that same area? >> it is correct, mister chairman. the nih has worked on the virus and the protein. whatever team did is developed the amount of molecule. which the nih did is they designed the same protein and our team did in parlay. the design of the mrna vaccine was done by our team. it's all technology. >> the nih considers himself to be the co-authors of the vaccine. do you disagree? >> our team has been working on that discussion for quite awhile. we have agreed to disagree. the team is following u.s. ipo, which is very important, and what we have done to close the matter is

and former director of the nih francis collins. in 2011 they wrote, quote, generating a potentially dangerous virus in the laboratory is a risk worth taking. they took that risk and it looks like the worst pandemic in a century is the result. we'll lay out the evidence pointing to the fauci experiments. a document from within the nih itself is all but an admission of guilt. the two agencies of our government with the greatest expertise in the precise science needed to make a judgment confirmed in their view the virus did leak from the wuhan lab. then this. from the director of the fbi, which he reminded us has -- >> professionals, analysts, vie roll justs, micro biologists et cetera who focused specifically on the dangers of biological threats that include novel viruses like covid and the concerns in the wrong hands bad threats those could pose.e >> what was their conclusion? >> the fbi has for quite some time now assessed that the origins of the pandemic are most likely a potential lab incident in wuhan. >> we are still waiting fo

and this we honor andrew delbanco whose connections to nih run deep. in 1983, andy received phd and nih research fellowship for his study on the puritans. in the 1990s, he was awarded three separate grants to support for k-through-12 teachers on the works of herman. after became president of teagle foundation, he helped forged a partnership with nih in 2020 to support general humanities courses for college students majoring in business, the sciences and, other technical fields. and it was my distinct honor to serve on the national council with his beloved wife dawn delbanco, who teaches art history at columbia university every year. any solicits public nominations on who should deliver this distinguished. these nominations included many famous individuals as intrepid thinkers, humanists, scientists artists and for years now andrew delbanco has been a perennial crowd. tonight, you hear why andy is a scholar of history and. he is a teacher specifically the kind teacher who sees working with as a natural necessary extension of research and writing wheneve

money through nih went to the wuhan lab.on that, and by the way we have the proof to show it. there's no doubt that money did make its way to the wuhan lab, and that is something where we should be not be seeing that money ever going to a communist country's lab that developed this gain of function research that may have then produced this virus. >> all right, so we know that the energy department, several of their agencies, well the fbi has varying degrees of confidence in the important, the four agencies have low confidence it was naturally developed and spread. i know that the hearings will continue and we'll see if you get dr. fauci to come and answer some questions. congresswoman representing staten island and a little bit of brooklyn, thanks so much. >> thank you. >>> as the fighting in bakhmut intensifies nato's chief now warns the ukrainian city may fall to russia in the coming days. we'll have more on that up next. ♪ get directv with a two year price e guarantee. there's always a fresh deal on the subway app. like t

in the interim, they received $9 million of grant money, specifically from the nih and other u.s. funding. money came into play for sure. >> sean: money came in other ways as well. dr. segal, we know that the nih gave grant money to the eco health alliance, and they gave money to the wuhan virology lab. that means all the great people in this audience tonight, everybody watching at home, likely contributed to the payment to manufacture the gain of function of this coronavirus, right? >> definitely did. >> sean: they definitely did. >> that's the echo health alliance that you're talking about. we're talking about a narrative here. nicole already said this. it's not science. science is about debate. science isn't about a narrative that you basically force down the pike. you tonight consider another narrative that starts with this -- bats are mostly in southeast china, not up in wuhan. bats are not found in the wuhan seafood market. they're not there. >> sean: the wet market. >> the wet market. they're not there. other animals are there. how did the bat get to the wet market? it didn

elizabeth: we have this push in congress to probe why the nih and united states let china over bill them for possibly ten attorneys of millions for -- tens of millions for research at china wuhan lab. >> and byron york, and call governor gavin newsom is riding to rescue of himself. for his wineries and his personal accounts taking a victory lap in bailout of collapsed silicon valley bank, he was a customer of that bank, byron york next on "the evening edit." ♪ ♪ tell me what you want ♪ ♪ this man needs updated covid protection. so does she. yup, these guys too. because covid is still out there, and so are you. and if your last vaccine was before september 2022, you're out there with fading protection. but an updated vaccine restores your protection. so you can keep doing you. get an updated covid vaccine and stay out there, safely. dad, we got this. we got this. we got this. we got this. we got this. yay! we got this. we got this! life is for living. we got this! let's partner for all of it. edward jones nothing, it really is something. as an expedia member, you can save up to 30% when y

this has been funded by the nih. dr.u still support funding of the nih funding of the lab in wuhan? >> senator paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect that the nih has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in the wuhan institute. do they fund dr. barrick -- do you wish to retract your statement where you claim the nih never funded gain of function research in wuhan. >> senator paul, i have never lied before the congress and i do not retract that statement and if anybody is lying here, senator, it is you. >> senator paul just today on fox news accused of orchestrating a cover-up. do you have any reason to think the new congress will be any less contentious or do you think they're interested in seeking the truth? >> well, i don't know, anderson. i don't really want to comment on that. i mean the most important thing we've got to do is stick with data, stick with science, be transparent and be honest, which i have been very much so literally for the entire 50 years that i've

fauci went to his deputy and asked him to brush him up on what nih involvement in china was. could have been fear, if it came out of a lab, there could have been blowback to the nih. people look at these emails and they have been interpreted differently by different parties. some feel it was an effort to downplay the lab theory, others say it is just science at work. host: how does one paper shape the debate so much as you described it? guest: it was very influential, this paper, cited in 2000 media outlets. dr. fauci described it from the white house podium in april. dr. francis collins wrote a blog post about it in march 2020. it had a large impact. at the time, people didn't know that it first started being formulated in discussions between scientists and top government officials. host: if you want to join the conversation, (202) 748-8001 for republicans to call in. democrats, (202) 748-8000. independent, (202) 748-8002. jimmy tobias is our guest. the headline of his piece from the nation, unredacted nih emails show effort to rule out the lab origin of covid. that is what

"the washington post" reported that nih funded supervirus research in the wuhan lab.n't the president just say, yeah, i'm going to declassesfy the ed on whether the pandemic leaked? look at senator josh hawley going after china on this. what do you think, congressman in. >> of course, the president has the power to declassify if anything that he wishes. goodness knows, we've all become experts on classification and declassification in the last several months. the president could declassify these documents tomorrow morning if he wanted to. now he's got a unanimous vote in the senate, a unanimous vote in the house to declassify, for the director of national intelligence to declassify these documents. and for heaven sakes, do it and get on with it. because, you know, the bottom line, a lot of people were hurt very badly by the actions of the chinese government, and they deserve the opportunity to know that for themselves. elizabeth: congressman burgess, thanks for joining us tonight. it's good to see you. >> thank you. elizabeth: we're going to get you updated on the new

the you probably saw cbs reporting to china's wuhan labs double billed the nih and usa out of tens of millions of taxpayer dollars stolen by china's labs here what do you make of this story? i think center marshals onto something this is her rear at on that unanimous bill release all the information we have that we have been different agencies as classified. that would through the house 41. we passed it two years ago unanimously did it again they never thought that would go back to bite them. they are in a racist until the 22nd i believe it. there will be some action pray that will go to the president's desk, every democrat on it pretty he will either have to sign it, which he better. he can let it pass into legislation without a signature break don't think there's any way he can veto it. this cap is finally going to be out of the bag and yes then you hear about this it's insult on top of injury, you have double billed by the wuhan lab. liz, there is so much stuff we need to bring to the light where we can see it, who knows what we will find. think the more we get into it we will see

>> i think not only from nih but the state department, nih into dod. >> thank you very much. >> recognizing ms. dingle from michigan for five minutes of questioning. >> thank you. mr. chair man, during the height of the covid-19 pandemic i found it very disheartening the public health professionals across the country vilified and attacked for supporting covid-19 measures. basic safety measures and later vaccines. they were trying to keep people safe and prevent deaths. i want everyone to know i take this committee very seriously. i want the facts. doctor redfield will confirm to you i was one of the first to talk about wuhan and had a lot of questions and never let up, so i want the facts. but i hope and say to my colleagues on the other slide we cannot go down a dangerous path by pushing unfounded conspiracies about doctor fauci and other long serving career public health officials. here's the reality. like many of you, i'm reading many articles just over the past weeks, doctor redfield knows i've been on this from the beginning, talked to research, doctors, front-line nurses, public healt

and now, three years later, we have a clearer picture of how officials at the nih, including anthony fauci protect chinwork furiously behind the scenes to protect china and the american academics who are actively engaged in and promotingics who the same type of research that resulted in the release of sars-cov-2 now trulyt a lot independent thinkers. and a lot ofem the arem were on the show, knew in 2020 thatwt that whole wet market theory was just absurd. and that the sars-cov-2 virus was almost certainly an escape from gain of function research on bad viruses, which is donepue by something called serial packaging or manipulating a virus. virus aand then inserting it ie called humanized mice. >> at that pointmice, well, chia didn't bury the data from that lab because it had nothing to hide. china buried the data because the data implicated china. and , ofe en course, the entire time they had their friends in the media here in the unitedtheb states helped them brand. anyone who questioned the party line as conspiracy theorists on donald trump turning his intelligence community to now

and then working in the same building doing for the at the nih. one of the early papers looking at the instruction based vaccine design. on the right is the hrd envelope and you do open want to get the right structure with the elegance science and the sad news it is on successful in getting the hiv vaccine yet. so, what happened iy graham who was interested in respiratory viruses use the technology that peter taught him to be able to make an immunogen for respiratory virus. what it is is that the best immunogen would be a stabilized pre-fusion protein. when a virus and a cell get together, the virus is in the pre-fusion form. when it hits the cell, it fuses and the confirmation of the molecule changes. the only trouble is, the best immunogen is pre-fusion. but it is a very wobbly one. it isn't stable. so it is tough to use it as a vaccine. what they did is used structure based vaccine design to show that if you make a couple of mutations in the mall will, you stabilize it. the first thing they did when mers came along, remember that? we started to

nih just extended it. >> martha: and then there was this faction that didn't like that president trumpthis time china virus. so you had a backlash to that. it's definitely not that. we're not going to blame them. the irony that is that we had to follow scientist but the best scientists in the world and we should shut up and accept it. many other scientists say this is the weirdest thing they saw. >> we heard from our biological weapons scientists. the fbi had concluded a lab leak months ago or years ago actually. so they were our experts. i can assure you they do very good work as does the fbi's bio defense division. >> martha: i hope you come back, david. we're going to stay on that story. great to have you with us today. david asher. breaking news on the white house on u.s. representation at the coronation of king charles iii "the story" live from london next. and from the army reserve. my retirement funds allow me to enjoy what i love to do. i volunteer with the medical reserve corp. as long as you can make an impact, why stop? >> tech: when you have auto glass damage, trust safelit

they receiventerd nine million dollars of grant money, specifically from the nih and other us funded. n: mon >> so moneeyy came into play for sure. well, money came iways an anothy as well. >> dr. siegel.e and that is that we know thatec the nih gave grant money to the ico health alliance and they gave money to the human virology lab. >> that mean that ms all the great people in this audience tonighty and everybody watching at home likely contributed to the pat to manufacture the gain a function of this coronavirus . sean: they >> definitely did. they definitely do.defini >>d that's peter .te that's that's th peter darshak t the local health alliance that you're talking about. and e talking i think we're talt it's not a narrative here. and nicole already showed this. it'sciencee is not science. science is about debate.ative science isn't about a narrativee that you that you basicallyt cos forced down the pikeid and yout- don't consider anothery in narrative that starts with this batch are mostly in southeas t china, not up at wuhan, and bats are not found in the mohun seafood market.

they worked in that same building at the nih. this is one of the early papers looking at a structure based vaccine design, that squiggly thing on the right is the hiv envelope. you do cryo-electric microscopy to get the right structure of the immunogen. the good news is, it is elegant science. the sad news, it has been unsuccessful in getting an hiv vaccine yet. i say yet, because i still am optimistic. so, what happened is that barney graham who was interested in respiratory viruses use the technology that peter taught him to be able to make an immunogen for respiratory virus. what it is is that the best immunogen would be a stabilized pre-fusion protein. when a virus and a cell get together, the virus is in the pre-fusion form. when it hits the cell, it fuses and the confirmation of the molecule changes. the only trouble is, the best immunogen is pre-fusion. but it is a very wobbly one. it isn't stable. so it is tough to use it as a vaccine. what they did is used structure based vaccine design to show that if you make a couple

. >> moderna recently paid nih $400 million.nterest for the government employees who are making money now off of the vaccine to also be dictating the policy about how many times we have to take the vaccine? >> indeed rerecently made -- $400 million payment to the nih for -- not related to covid but covid vaccine to prove our work. >> he just admitted fauci made bank off the vax. the faucis and pfizers and modernas are businesses. they are there to make money. remember? and that's what today's hearing was all about. moderna made $20 billion in profits from the vaccine which we paid for to produce the taxpayers. they want more money no more mandates demand for the vax gone way down. now they want to jack up the price four times. quadruple it. but bernie wasn't having it. >> my question to you is given the facts that you have made billions of dollars, that your company has made huge profits, on behalf of the taxpayers of this country, will you reconsider your decision to quadruple the price of the vaccine? >> the volume we had duri

we also know that the chinese had eight coronaviruses on the nih database that they took down. scientists discovered these and found them in the cloud. they haven't been forthright with us. we know that. there's a lot still to be known about this. the bottom line is we do this kind of gain of function research in the united states, too. there needs to be more oversight and regulation of this. >> martha: do you expect that dr. fauci or dr. daszek, who i know peter asher that we have spoken to many times on this show, david asher, they want to see both of them testify about this. you think we will ever see that day, so that accountability? >> yes. ultimately, i think. i saw the clip from d dr. winstrop. i think he said not now. ultimately my guess is that dr. fauci will be back. dr. daszek will testify and others will. dr. collins will. they will all testify and all likely testify under oath. i agree with dr. winstrop and others that say let's gather the information and set the foundation. it's true that dr. fauci, he can remember all of the mandates that he wants to tell you how

then the nih rescinded their predictprohibition.ng to hide this because there was indirect funding of gain of function research. was there personal financial gain? do they feel complicit that they allowed a type of research that may have led to the virus becoming more contagious and more easily transmitted in humans? so we need to know about lab safety. there was not proper oversight by nih or by ecohealth of this laboratory. there wasn't disclosure when they knew that the virus was contagious. and there was human-to-human transmission. so we need to know those things and that's why it's important that we know the origins and why why we have these oversight hearings to hold dr. fauci accountable. >> >> brian: he says just call him. he hasn't been called yet. i didn't shut down schools. really? he didn't talk about masking. he always has a way of getting out of things and hopefully be held accountable eventually. thanks so much, congresswoman. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> brian: coming up on this show as wall street wakes up to th

faucilied u intentionally lied under oath to senator paul when he vehementlynd denied nih is funding of gain of function i research? >> i think there's doubt no dog that nih was funding gainely am function research. >> is it likely that americaer n tax dollars funded the gain of function research that created this virus? >> ihinki think it did not not only from nih, but from the state department, usaid, and from dod. >> okay, do you realize what this all means? well, not surprisingly, redfield field told he the committee that he found hif shut out of key callspandem early on in the pandemic, and that wasic when fauciredfiet and company realized that red field was not goingoing toge the party line. >> whywere do you think you were excluded from those call? y wand because it was it was told to me that they wanted a single narrative and that i obviously had a different point of view all about the science. well, these sanctums, erroneous camera hounds who flanked trump day afte r day in the white house briefing room. these people who are pushed,ar pushine pushg these damaging's l lockdow

not only from from nih but the from the state department. >> do you realize what this all means? not surprisingly, redfield told the committee that he found himself shut out of key calls early on in the pandemic. that was when fauci and company realized that redfield was not going to to the party line. >> why do you think you were excluded? >> i was told that they wanted single narrative and that i obviously had a different point of view. >> all about the science. >> these sanctimonious kameron hounds who flanked trump day after day in the white house briefing room, these people who are pushing with the damaging markdowns and it's merely good doctors and researchers who kne the truth about inexpensive antiviral treatments, they did more than grandstand on camera. those people it destroyed publi trust in our public health officials and our entire public health system. why weren't fauci, his boss and at their useful deborah burks a all interested in discussing what renowned experts were saying about when and how covid spread? what explains that their stunning lack of curiosity? >>

national institute of health, nih, grant proposals that funded her work which are a matter of publicecords specify exactly what she planned to do with the money, the grants were assigned the prime contractor, this guy daszak of the eagle health alliance who subcontracted them to the expert, virologists in china was talking about. you can see these connections and you can see in many ways we were sold out as a people but this means in non-technical terms, she set out to create novel coronavirus is highest possible infectivity for human cells. the methodical approach was designed to find the best combination of coronavirus backbone and spike protein for infecting human cells it cannot be said she did or did not generate the sars to in her lab because her records have been sealed but it seems she was on the right track to have done so, it's clear the wuhan institute of virology was systematically constructing novel coronavirus is assessing their ability to infect human cells and human aio expressing mice as richard a albert, molecular biologist at rutgers university and leading expert a

that nih money went to the eco- health alliance to fund the wuhan virology lab and we knew they didrch on coronavirus is and and and gain of function research. >> that is why the american people deserve too see what the year government knows about the origin of covid because we've had people like dr. feast fauci is that that couldn't have neve come from a elaborate if you think that you are a crazy conspiracy theorist. you shouldn't be allowed to sit and as it turns out are own government had known for some time that it likely came from elaborate. let's declassify them with the american people see everything the government has got the origins of covid and let's hold people accountable for their lives. what about this memo that was created at the request of dr. fauci and now evidence suggesting that not only did dr but it's true he might have edited and rewritten parts of i and then quoted it as an independent source when in fact he was actively involved in it? is that true? >> i have seen the news reports i don't know if it's true that he was actively involved although the numbers r

>> in 2020, in february of 2020, that information came from anthony fauci and the nih, subsequent tolockdowns occurred. that misinformation that he provided caused the lookdowns, the inflation, the students staying home, the mask mandates which put such an impact on our personal freedoms. we have to recognize and serving on the covid select subcommittee the origins of covid have to be examined and we have to work to understand and explain that because if government was involved if that misinformation, there has to be an explanation. we have to work to not only understand but to prepare and to prevent any other situation like this, the weaponization of government must be stopped and we are all suspicious that that's what occurred from the nih. maria: yeah, i mean, you and your team brad winstrop have done an incredible job in terms of educating the public i have with me right here what was released just yesterday in terms of the finding of your committee. let me ask you, congressman, do you believe that this was a bioweapon that were working on? the wuhan lab? >> my concern the game o

11 times more money to nutritional research than the nih does. you guessed it the studies all say processed foods aren't that bad for you. but big food isn't just buying the science. they are influencing public opinion. coca-cola has been accused by industry insiders of paying the naacp and think tanks to help kill soda taxes. basically if you support a stowed da tax you are racist and hate poor people. companies like coke and pepsi soft drink con glom member rants are big to anti-hunger groups lobby the feds to keep sugary drinks covered by food stamps. but it's not just at this thanks and elite research universities. doctors are cashing in on big pharma's generosity. instead of advocating for lifestyle changes diet and exercise. the american academy of pediatrics is recommending every obese person over age 12 to take an injectable weight loss drug that they have to be on for life. of course they do. and you also have doctors saying stuff like this. >> if you diet, you lose weight. right? the number one cause of obesity is genetics, that means i

, yesterday, in his words, there is no doubt that some agencies of the federal government, like the nihh led to the creation of this. dr. fauci went to the narrative it came from an animal. obviously that would be accidental natural occurrence and implications are far less dangerous for him and all those people involved. >> ashley: so, with hearing all of this, how will fauci and these entities of the federal government, how are they going to be held accountable? >> well, we have got to present all the facts. there is a long, deliberate process that goes along with this because we are going to do it very deliberately. this is not about politics. this is about restoring the people's faith in our institutions of government itself there will be accountability for anyone involved in that it appears dr. fauci one of those persons to whom accountability is owed because he effectively tried to cover this up. that is what the documents and evidence are proving. there is mounting evidence of this. he commissioned scientific papers to triad advance his competing narrative which he obviously knew

. $5million for cancer research through nih like to the defense department there a special weapon system here's the deal. some people are paying about 10000, 12 or $13000 per year for expensive treatments that will give them a certain piece of mind because no matter how much they pay they will never have to pay more than $2000 a year for all the drugs they consume it changes the peace of mind people have but it will save seniors money but also saving the government money and they say if you cut taxes for the wealthy i say i have a better way if you limit the amount of money that can be charged gina much they will save this year? $160billion why? because it is $160 billion less they pay for the seniors so it's not only the right thing to do but a conservative thing to do in terms of cutting the federal budget. but as i said those that don't think any of this is a good idea they think big pharma for the expense of the american people and i want to repeal the inflation act and then continue to line the pockets of big pharma and to make a lot of money just pay your fair share. [applause] i h

not only from nih but from the state department. usaid and dod. >> julie: bombshell testimony in a house hearing on the origins of covid pandemic. also testifying top white house dr. anthony fauci never shared with him emails on a paper fauci himself commissioned. the goal was to disprove the lab leak theory. republican jim jordan blasting fauci. >> if you thought it wham from the lab and raised that, you were called a nut job, you got censored on twitter and black listed on twitter and called a crack pot three days after they say it came from a lab. they changed their position and a conference call with dr. fauci and collins. a call mr. redfeld was not allowed to be on the head of cdc. three months later they get $9 million from dr. fauci. isn't that something >> julie: $9 million. a grant to the research doctors who put forth that paper. a new op-ed asks why did the scientists deceive everyone about covid-19? another headline reads anthony fauci hid the truth about covid until now. will cain "fox & friends" weekend co-host. this i

people at those labs or in the chinese public health bureaucracy or funding that his organization at the nih was granting. >> sandra: that was his take on it. obviously fauci's pushing back on that idea, but then you have today democrats voting with republicans to declassify these documents to get to the bottom of covid origins so why does anthony fauci, why isn't he as curious as all the democrats you say to declassify this and get to the bottom of this? >> look, i think what the democrats are doing is on a lot of issues including this issue, they're pivoting and they're now what they know that the republicans are in control there in the house and they're going to be a lot of inconvenient truths coming out and they're going doggo lying and going along and they don't want to make headlines saying they're trying to suppress facts about the origins of covid because they know like with crime that the public has woken up and they realize a lot of what went on during the pandemic was dishonest. >> really something and we'll see where all that goes with the declassifying of those documents as lawm

years and collected 30,000 samples so far, leading the team is elaine a senior genetic studying at nihthere scientists at nhi studying dogs? >> we are studying human disease and doing it through dogs so dogs live in our world. they get all the same diseases we do. they eat our food. they're exposed to the same environmental pollutants and have the same genes we do and have mutations that make us susceptible ia cancer or neuro muscular diseases, everything humans get, dogs get. >> it easier to study the genes in dogs than humans because for the last 200 years they've been bred to emphasize specific traits, that's why they have these distinct noses and tails and sizes from great danes to chihuahuas. so before victorian times, the dogs were the same. > all the most all the variation in the rings today all happened in the last 200 years. >> incredible that much variety. >> so it's probably going to be a small number of genes responsible for most of the major differences. >> it turns out one gene determines if a dog has cream colored hair or black. other genes determine long hair or short a

fauci intentionally lied under oath to senator paul when he vehemently denied nih's funding of gain of i think there is no doubt that niche was funding gain of function research. >> is it likely that the american tax dollars funded gain of function research that created this virus. >> not only from nih the state department and usaid and dod. >> jesse: from dod that's the bioweapons angle. fauci can't admit it is a lab leak because he would be on the hook for it he would be the accessory for the murder of millions of americans. if you train the lab and you pay the lab that springs a leak and kills it. then your hands are dirty. and fauci knows he is dirty because he has been covering up for china from the very beginning. >> i was excluded from those discussions. >> why would they do this? >> because i had a different point of view and i was told they made a decision that they would keep this confidential until they came up with a single narrative. this was an a.p. oriented decision that there is one point of view that we are going to put out there and anyone who doesn't agree with it is

>> this is part of money that nyad and nih hand out to do coronavirus research, they have been getting our money for years, dr. fauci has been handing out millions -- you know he has been there 40-something year, these virologists get a 9 million dollar grant a few months after they change their narrative. this is the thing that dr. fauci has been doing. he as i said, i think he belt a fiefdom he and dr. collins control. that is where the money came from our tax dollars to these guys, like they went to the wuhan institute of viviewer -- virology. >> you are all taking action in the house and criticism in senate as well. >> it was an elaborate cover-up that began in january of 2020, there are e-mails between dr. collins and dr. fauci, which dr. collins said it would not be good for china or science. >> in i know dr. fauci, he a smart man but his behavior and lack of candor during the epidemic has undermined the institution of science and public health. >> i'm sure you remember that fiery exchange between dr. fauci andd dr. rand paul when fauci looked him in the eye, said there was no fu

those emails from the earliest days of the crisis revealed nih head dr.om a chinese government-run lab. the wuhan institute of virology. >>ian 27th, fauci is told the national institute of allergy an infectious diseases has been indirectly funding the wuhan lab through ecohealth alliance, a u.s.-based scientific nonprofit that had been working with novel coronavirus. january 31st, dr. kristian andersen, a noted virologist at the scripts lab privately tells fauci that after discussions with his colleagues, some of covid-19's features, potentially look engineered and, quote: the genome is inconsistent with expectations from evolutionary theory. fauci reacts immediately and organizes an all hands on deck conference call with colleagues. he tells the deputy director of the agency dr. hugh as youen clots of the urgency read this paper as well as the email that i will forward to you now you will have tasks today that must be done. >> fauci also holds a conference equal a dozen virologists from around the world. some immunologists were not convinced the virus oc

but according to the nih, that fear can trigger behavioral problems, making it harder for a health carevider to treat them when children don't have any experience of something, they're apprehensive, they don't cooperate overseas in belgium, the teddy bears clinic is trying to reduce that anxiety. the workshop pairs kids with medical students who used the child's favorite stuffed animal to teach them about medicine had an ear eight soon to be. doctors examined the toys for eddy. health problems explaining the steps to the kids, so they know what's going on and why certain tools are being used. coming to the teddy bears clinic allows them to discover the world of medicine to understand how it works to talk to health professionals in a playful context where they're not patients because of that, they come out. having learned something with a better understanding of medicine, and they're much more relaxed if ever they have to experience it as patients. this opportunity isn't available where you live. the nih says properly preparing your child for what to expect before going to the doctors ca

nih and their units, for research on things like covid viruses. >> well, and those are all the thingsnto on the select sub-committee on the pandemic, and so you'll hear more throughout the next year and a half, but you know, i will say this too. when someone whose supposed to be a professional starts calling people names and using adjective s and laughing, to me, i only have an undergraduate degree in psychology but to me it's a sign of some type of nervousness that we're seeing from him but look in 2012 in an interview he was very candid. he's all for this type of research, whether you call it gain of function, he was all-in and even asked at that time, aren't you worried about it getting out of the lab creating a pandemic and he said oh, i think the odds of that are low, and the benefits out weigh the risk. well that maybe his scientific opinion, okay, but it is a concern, and look at what happened. some of the things that we already know, that in the fall of 2019, you know, they had a couple of researchers get sick. they changed their ventilation system on their labs. they destroye

no a committee hearing i had recently i was able to question the nih director and he, again, claimed research. but, i grilled him a little bit more how do you know that when the chinese data was not released and the nih even deleted the sea against of the virus at the chinese' request. there is something fishy going on here. and that's why republicans want to get to the bottom of this. not only because millions of people died and more millions of people got infected but because it's important for the origins for the next pandemic. we have to combat that. >> ainsley: you are right. we don't want to have to go through it again. thank you, ladies. great to see you. >> thank you. >> ainsley: coming up. >> brian is having breakfast with our friends down in tampa, florida. hey, brian. >> brian: yeah, i'm just talking to so many people, ainsley. everybody has got different issues to discuss. this is patty. pat j just bought in this area but is from new jersey. you have a complaint with new jersey. >> yes. we have washing up. the governor won't admit it's the wind turbines in the ocean. they

role in chairman i set out to achieve 5 percent in real growth by department of dependent defense and nihr my partner in that effort as was senator blunt with nih fiscal year 23 under this new have appropriated three.$107 billion for medical researchea 5 percent real growth. congratulations i hope we can maintain that going forward. let me address the issue the admirable was —- the admiral raised at the end mental health counseling is so important for all of us especially in the military whether under stress to face regularncidents on a basis in the past let's be honest in virtually everyel aspect of medicine there was a stigma attached to mental health counseling and a belief that if you needed counseling it was a black mark on your record to hold you back from promotion and advancement has that changed or are you changing it? >> to take change that culture takes a whilent but the environment is entrenched and to speak for the secretary that mental health is health so we need to lower the stigma to makema it available so it's easy to get but it is still an ongoing challenge that we are m