sarah longwell and tim miller are back with us. tim, first of all, i would like wow. everyone is like, not everybody because people keep saying where is former president bush. i don't know if we will see anything from him but it seems like a lot of republicans who had previously not publicly said that they will vote against donald trump for kamala harris and will go on the record written down in spaces and places where people can see it because they think it is important. >> yeah. i understand a lot of democrats like you will be disoriented by the bush character. were bringing them all back and everybody will be good for,. i think the reality is it is important for the reason we talked about in the first segment. think about the type of voters who are persuadable. if the one group is warmer republicans who don't like donald trump but weren't sure about the vice president, it is helpful to have prominent former republicans or current republican saying, no, it's good enough. she passes the presence of bark and he doesn't. it's time to move on. we are not going back. it'

but let's let's take a look at sarah longwell, who's here with us today, friend of the show. obviously talks to voters all the time and this was a group that she had before all of this came out yesterday from kfile, but talking to trump voters, people who voted for trump in 2020 about whether they would be willing to vote for robinson. >> let's watch it i used to be not a big donor, better donor to wake county republican in the state of north carolina republican. >> and i keep getting text messages that my membership has expired and i keep sending them messages that i will not give them a penny as long as robinson is on the ballot now he isn't either medic. i know that he believes that the holocaust never happened he is a vague, ridiculous conspiracy theorist he, he, he leans heavily on stuff that just doesn't even correlate what he's trying to do with our state he's very unfriendly to the lgbt community on a whole so sarah longwell, i mean, again, that was before it helps us understand why he was losing this race so badly. what is your understanding of the connection between

sarah longwell, a wegt of information. s against trump, publisher of the bulwark and its must listen to podcasts. thanks for listening, sarah. >>> coming up while donald trump contemn plates pulling elon musk, the country of brazil is shutting elon musk and his far right free-for-all. but first trump has officially filed a not guilty plea in his january 6th interference case while also saying he had every right to engage in election interference. david rhodes joins me to discuss the weaponization of the justice system and what we can discuss next. can discuss next only purple's gel flex grid passes the raw egg test. no other mattress cradles your body and simultaneously supports your spine. memory foam doesn't come close. get your best sleep guaranteed. save up to $1,000 during our labor day sale. visit purple.com or a store near you. >>> it's so crazy that my poll numbers go up. whoever heard you get indicted for interfering with a presidential election, where you have every right to do it. you get indicted and your poll n

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sarah longwell on the other hand, says, hell, no. well, rights the case for staying optimistic about harris undecided voters haven't turned on her. >> they just need to hear more from her. that debate is an opportunity to start closing the deal. longwell conducted nearly a dozen focus groups with swing and persuadable voters and says the more they see harris, the more they like her i'm definitely leaning more tortured of nice to hear a candidate who i feel like i can like finish your thought through from beginning to end and actually had to point to make she is definitely like way more energetic inviting. that doesn't take a lot yeah, it was definitely like a relief to have somebody that mean in respect to biden as young, she's willing to like trump you know, i think she will really like call him on his crap. >> and so that's good. >> joining me now, sarah longwell out bulwark and the host of the focus group podcast. it's so great to see you. thanks for having me. >> thank you for coming in. i always love talking to you about what you

and publisher of the bulwark, sarah longwell, also the host of the focus group podcast, and executive director of republican voters against trump. great to have all of you here. this new abc/ipsos poll has harris leading trump by 13 you have been points. you have been talking to focus groups nonstop about this is this election. is this what you are seeing from women you've been talking to? >> yeah, look, one of the biggest changes we had recently in the election is the announcement of jd vance as donald trump's running mate. and jd vance has had a number of big missteps that have really made him radioactive to women and one of the things you see in the focus groups, a lot of times the stuff we talk about in washington doesn't always breakthrough or translate to regular voters, but jd vance's childless cat lady comments are absolutely resonating with voters, they come up in every focus group, men bring them up, women bring them up, and i want to explain one of the big differences in how this election is different in terms of rhetoric around women than previous ones. trump's always been

heads around all of this is cnn political correspondent sara murray and republican strategist sarah longwell. sara murray love having to sara elizabeth xer. you did some terrific reporting which people can read on cnn.com with fredricka schouten about what we need to sort of be bracing for broadly, but specifically because of the way that the pennsylvania and wisconsin laws are. >> yeah, i think what fredricka and i heard from election officials, especially in pennsylvania, in wisconsin, is really preaching patients they want people to understand that the rules that many election workers hoped would change since 2020 in those states did not, which means that if the states are processing hundreds of thousands of mail-in ballots, they're not going to be able to to start that process until 7:00 a.m. on election day. and in a race that is very close, which all the polls are suggesting this race is going to be. that means we may not know who is winning the state of pennsylvania for a day, two days, maybe three days. that could be potentially the same situation. wisconsin and they're saying you kn

our panelists here, isaac dovere, cnn senior reporter sarah longwell, executive director of the republicany project. kate bedingfield, cnn political commentator, former biden white house communications director and brad todd, republican strategist partner at the public strategy firm on message. welcome to all of you. isaac dovere, you have known eric adams for decades. >> this is grand theft ottoman. >> i you know, i was excited to see what the new york post might do with this. this morning. they'd, they didn't fail to deliver we were talking in the break in language that quite frankly is not family friendly, especially not great for six in the morning. but can you give us the family friendly version of what is up with this? >> i mean, there has been a long history of eric adams having associations with people who have ended up in legal trouble and lightweight has from when he was in the state senate, brooklyn borough president, mayor this has been just part of the story of eric adams, along with the rest of the story of eric adams police officer and a successful politician, obviously he h

>> it's right, supporting israel so sarah longwell, how do you react to that kind of a move? >> because again, i think the context here is so important, what they're trying to do here with arab american muslim american voters in michigan specifically yeah, they are trying to reinflaming the debate that was doing real damage to joe biden in michigan. with that population. >> and actually i remember doing a lot of focus groups in michigan during this time and it's not just there of american population, it was a lot of white voters who wanted to stand with the arab american population michigan back when there was just a lot of the campus protests that is targeted at people where they are trying to drive up kamala's negatives by the antisemitism, antisemitism, and it's pretty gross. >> yeah. i mean, it's just disgusting and it's not i mean, these are not ads criticizing her policy positions. this is an ad equating the fact that her husband is jewish with the idea that she is somehow going to carry forward policy that is objectionable to people who don't like the way the biden adm

sarah longwell is publisher of the bulwark. alexi mcalpin is msnbc political analyst. they both join me now. sarah, let me start with you because i just said i bet you not one in the thousand voters could tell you about this chart which i think is probably true and again, charts are charts. it's my job to look at charts. it's not the voters job to look at the charts but it does seem to be like this basic truth about the record and it really is true like there was a big policy push. manufactured construction, chipsets, -- chips act, inflation reduction act seems particularly unknown to voters in your swing voter focus group. >> honestly, i think it has a lot to do with the fact that joe biden was not a strong communicator for a lot of his term. you know, he did not have the ability i think to go out there and just sell, sell, sell this all day long. also, i think there was a tension between joe biden declaring the economy sort of back and calling it bidenomics a time when people were still feeling the cost of inflation. what i hear from people the most is the cost of mil

i read today this sarah longwell piece in the atlantic about how a lot of on the fence voters were saying she looked presidential and i read some other on the fence voters were saying that they related when she was laughing. so i do think it was just something from another century and look, there are these sort of hot take punditry things and some are misogynistic and the idea that she can't have normal facial expressions is one of them. >> she really won the game of tv last night. she could've had a lot of totally normal outraged and fired up responses, but she showed incredible discipline. like a silent assassin letting him spin himself like a top. >> and look, she did a ton of research and a ton of prep and you could tell because she sort of knew what would get him and stepped back and let him do it and that was sort of, she has been very good at kind of proving the doubters wrong. >> he didn't prep. it was tulsi gabbard and laura loomer who prepped them. i'm going to leave that they are. peter, we are hearing team trump go on and on about how unfair it was because he got fact checked

joinings now sarah longwell executive director of republican voters against trump and the publisher ofd it. >> we are launching in pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, arizona and nebraska, too. which are some of the key states where we think that kamala harris needs to overperform to defeat donald trump. the strategy is simple. you have to build a permission structure for republicans, soft gop voters right leaning independent people who are maybe voted for donald trump and in fact everybody in our campaign has voted for donald trump at least once, in many times, many cases twice. and but they are out on him. and what we have seen i do focus groups all the time. with voters and one of the things we have seen is a tremendous openness from some trump voters many of them are the kind of obama trump voters back from 2016, they tend to be people who only tune in right around now as the election gets really close and we have seen a tremendous openness to voting for kamala harris. people are interested. they want to hear more about what she stands for-they want to learn more. many of them don't

but just the dynamic of it tells you all you need to know. >> sarah longwell has joined us, executiveector of republican voters against trump and the publisher of bulwark. i know you had a focus group. i want to share some of what they have to say. i do want to start with some of the substance that she had to say because it was your counsel, my days have all blurred together, i think late last week, that she use this as a nice to share her vision and to be substantive. so here is some of her substance on abortion. >> let's understand how we got here. donald trump hand selected three members of the united states supreme court with the intention that they would undo the protucks of roe v. wade. and they did exactly as hein -- that he intended and now there are 20 abortion bans which make it criminal for a doctor or nurse to provide health care in one state it provides prison for life, trump abortion bans that make no exception even for rape an incest. which to understand what that means. a survivor of a crime of violation to their body, does not have the right to make a decision about w

. >> plus, sarah longwell with new swing vote reaction to the debate. >> i think she was the clear winner. he did a poor job of taking her bait and allowing himself to get upset. >> and what happens next. >> let's turn the page on this. let's not go back. let's chart a course for the future. >> when "all in" starts right now. good evening from new york, i am chris hayes. the first presidential debate of the year between donald trump and president joe biden was the most consequential in american presidential history. it was june 27 and biden's performance brought about a reckoning within the democratic party, resulting in president biden's monumental and deeply selfless decision to step aside, suspend his reelection campaign. last night, 11 weeks later, more than 67 million people watched trump's base biden's replacement at the top of the democratic ticket. vice president kamala harris. the steaks were even higher. going into last night's debate, kamala harris carried an unbelievably difficult burden. there is the fact she is the first black woman at the top of a major party ticket, trying

credible case both on the substance of her policies and the fact that she can be trusted to deliver sarah longwell. >> i know you speak to undecided voters in your various folk focus groups that you conduct out there. this is what the new york times says about voters who have yet to completely make up their minds. and i'm quoting you know this group of voters had leaned toward ms harris in these states in august, but now leans slightly more toward mr. trump why do you think that is? >> well i'm, not exactly sure why it is. i do think that north carolina was always a reach for democrats and i think the fact that kamala harris has been able to put that into the battleground column and make it really competitive was a testament to how much she changed this race the state that's the most interesting in these sunbelt polls to me is arizona. and i think that it's really a good idea for her to go out there and visit the border, get go on offense more on the border. if there's a reason she's down five points in arizona, it's because people are angry about the border. and i think she's going to have to dis

sarah longwell is the publisher of the bulwark, executive director of the republican accountability project start with you because i just said i bet not one in 1000 voters could tell you about this chart, which i think is probably true and again, charts are charts. it is my job to look at charts, not voters job to look at the charts, no shade on them, but it does seem like the basic truth about the record and it really was true that there was a big policy push, manufacturing, inflation reduction act, that did not exist under donald trump. it is essentially unknown to voters and particularly the kind of voters you talk to in your swing voter focus groups. >> that is true and honestly i do think it has a lot to do with the fact that joe biden was not a strong communicator for a lot of his term. he did not have the ability i think to go out and just sell, sell, sell this all day long. also i think that there was tension between joe biden declaring the economy back and calling it bidenomics at a time when people were still feeling really the pinch of inflation and so what i hear from voters all

>> sarah lodge longwell says the largest voting coalition in america is the anti-trump vote.for spending the whole hour with us. watching that speech with us. fantastic to see all of you. let's do it again. we're going to sneak in a very quick break today. the vice president just stepped down. we'll see stephanie ruhle's interview. if they are done while we're still on the air, we'll have the first clip in the next hour. vice president kamala harris and stephanie ruhle right here. don't go anywhere. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ this one is for you. a chewy pharmacy order is on the way for summit, who *loves* fresh air. like, *loves* fresh air. but fresh air is full of stuff. fleas. ticks. allergens. so her parents use chewy for all her prescriptions. (♪♪) fast delivery means they never miss a dose. and great prices mean more funds... for more fun. for quality meds and great prices. for life with pets, there's chewy. t-mobile's 5g network connects a hundred thousand delta employees so they can make every customer feel like they've arrived before they've left the ground. this is how business goes f