the war in eastern ukraine. victory in ukraine. my first question for the panel, explain what victory in ukraine means. how would you define it? most allies have yet to do it. the definition of victory. >> thank you. let me first go back to the introductory video. it really stirred a lot of emotion in me. one of my most recent visits to ukraine was in april on the catholic easter. on easter monday, i joined the ceremony of the opening of his shelter. a jewish settlement in kyiv. we celebrated the rabbi's birthday. on my most recent visit, i attended the vigil of one of his sons who died. a lot of emotion here. victory means protecting values. restoring sovereignty integrity and political independence to ukraine. that is the ultimate goal. i know that does not happen overnight. if wars are not won in the first few days or weeks, -- we find ourselves in a situation where we have a line of contact. making progress, slow at a very high cost. a geopolitical situation that is pushing for a cease-fire. looking into the future, a cease-fir

-ukraine policies. you know the incoming president, donald trump, you have worked with him, your terms have overlapped. you have spoken in positive terms about your work with donald trump. you talked about action and without the policy that you have experienced with donald trump. so can you tell us a little more, what do you expect from this incoming u.s. administration, especially with special envoy he's appointed as special envoy ukraine and what ukraine would expected, what are the red lines you would want to set out for ukraine in the beginning. one of the red lines that ukraine could not accept negotiations and what are the things ukraine could be more acceptable especially shaping the conversations in d.c. >> thank you very much for the invitation. i'm really happy to see all of you and thank you very much, indeed, for being together with us now. i really very much appreciate for the enormous support we have from the united states, all 11 years of the war. just want to remind you that this is not

ukraine?t are things where ukraine could be more flexible, especially when it comes to shaping the conversation? mr. poroshenko: thank you very much for the invitation. i'm very happy to see all of you. thank you for being together with us now. i appreciate the you norma support we have from the united states, all 11 years of the war. this is not just one day, it is exhausting, difficult, heavy 11 year war. not only for ukraine, for freedom, for democracy. we should stop in ukraine, it would be more efficient, it would be cheaper than trying to stop the baltic states and somewhere else. i want to make a short commence, the leader of the solidarity party, the second-biggest party of the european parliament. i never thought that i planned to participate in this kind of ambition. i said definitely yes i want to participate in the future election. in the election to european parliament, for ukraine as a member of the european union. all 11 years, i do my best for ukraine to sign the association ag

, ukraine has to make decisions. what we are working to do in the time we have left is to give ukraine to give our own country and the allies and partners that support ukraine the strongest possible hand to use next year and beyond. if ukraine determines it has to fight we have to make sure they have the money and munitions and mobilized forces. if it chooses to engage in the negotiation and that assumes if putin and russia have any intent of doing that, we want to make sure that is a position of strength. from my perspective, what i'm trying to do is give the incoming administration the strongest hand to play in all of these areas and pass the baton because the world doesn't stop because we have a political transition underway. that's what i am focused on in the remaining time. this is one of our closest partners and allies, we welcome to reject the decision and he fold up on that and in our judgment and any political disagreements need to be resolved peacefully and with the rule of law. it has been an extraordinary

to ukraine.... sorry. no, no, i'm sorry to interrupt, but i guess the obvious point is that there's a question of scale here. vladimir putin clearly is prepared to lose thousands and thousands of military personnel in pursuit of his waraims. some days it seems russia is losing well beyond 1,000 troops per day. he can afford to do that, it seems. ukraine most certainly cannot. well, if we have all the support, i would even say when we have all the support coming from partners and from our own industrial base and from our society that is needed to keep russia at least where it is, then we can demonstrate good results on the battlefield. so again, we have to focus on solving problems, which would be to increase the output of our own defence industrial base, but also the continuation and stepping up the support coming from ukraine's partners. if the war was only about the scale, we would have already lost. just a few days ago, in the financial times, you said, "if it continues like this, we will lose

we have to make sure that ukraine is in a position of strength so that in those negotiations, ukraine can get what it wants and we can prevent putin from getting what he wanted when he started his full onslaught on ukraine. obviously, when we get to that moment unequal i think we all pray for the moment when that will for that moment to arrive , we will have to discuss many things. at the same time, -- i will not speculate. we -- who will be or will not be at the table. i think we should consider it completely and fully on making sure ukraine gets to the negotiation. so no comments from me now on , who should then be negotiating. >> ok, thank you. we will go to deutsche welle. yeah, on the fourth floor. >> thank you for this opportunity. >> good morning. >> my question is not simple, but it sounds simple. is ukraine closer now to nato membership than it was before this meeting? because will know what they came here with, and the position was quite strong and categorical that there is no alternative. is it closer now to being a nato member, or not? >> well, let's not forget that in 200

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more weapons to ukraine, troops, boots on the ground in ukraine when donald trump says he can end ity? is that even possible? no, no, i mean, the war... i mean, uh, that's i mean, that's as zelensky has said, that's that's political rhetoric. that's not possible. putin is not going to, uh, stop the war, particularly when there are ukrainian troops on what was, you know, pre—2014 uh, territory of of the russian federation. uh, near kursk. so no, we in the west, notjust the united states... there needs one thing.. there needs one thing. i think trump is right about is burden sharing. i'm as worried about developments in berlin as i am about developments in washington with respect to support for for ukraine. with respect to support for ukraine. so i think there needs to be burden sharing in the west to provide support for for ukraine to resist russia's military aggression. i think the best we can hope for at this point in the short term is, uh, you know, a frozen conflict, a frozen line of contact. uh, we have we've lived with that on the korean peninsula for many decades, and without a

and the west trumps designated special envoy for ukraine general keeps calendar as a plan to bring ukraine and russia to the negotiating table. but what content even considering precedence lensky may have to pay a high price for peace, especially if he wants to get the nato protection he hopes works by temporarily giving up some territories. on to the point, we ask war and peace. a deal with food team at the expense of ukraine. the welcome to this week. to the point, i'm probably going to get us. it's good to have you with us. let's meet today's guests across how you last is an expert on defense and security policy, military operations and arms control with the european council on foreign relations . who must be guard is a journalist and military blogger, specialized in defense and security policy, and determined on this vast here in berlin. and monday, now you don't, is a militarily analyst with kings college london joining us and from the city of munich 12, you're welcome. and thank you for being here today to watch. i'd like to start with you november just saw the worst losses for you c

more weapons to ukraine, troops, boots on the ground in ukraine when donald trump says he can end ite to approach, understand who it is you are talking to. and i use this approach when i was ambassador, i never asked the russian government for anything. i was warned by a pretty savvy, uh, it was actually a russian orthodox bishop who once warned me... he said, never, ever ask the russian government for anything. they will interpret it as weakness and won't take you seriously. so i would always tell the russians, respectfully, what i thought the situation was, whatever the issue was, what the united states was going to do about it and let them react. so negotiations, the way we conceive of negotiations in the west, if we approach it in that, way, as we've done in the past, it will inevitably lead to failure. so how can this end? more weapons to ukraine, troops, boots on the ground in ukraine when donald trump says he can end it in one day? is that even possible? no, no, i mean, the war... i mean, uh, that's i mean, that's as zelensky has said, that's that's political rhetoric. that's

they can't even beat ukraine. so, i would like to see 10% slashes in defense spending, and let's get it down to a reasonable level. i think threats to the united states are wildly overblown. and obviously, we could use that money much better at home. thanks, guys. >> well, caller has a point of view. we are wildly understanding overspending on defense. if you take a closer look, certainly not the case. now, we are hovering about 30% of gdp dedicated to defense to actually go lower to about 2.5% if you look out in the defense program out to 2030 or so. by historical standards, during the height of the cold war, when president reagan was in office, we were at 6% during korea. it was about 12% world war ii, it was about a third of what we are spending. what we have today in terms of defense spending as a percentage of gdp, gross domestic product, is actually what we were spending roughly at the end of the cold war. it surprises a lot of people. now is a moment when truly there was no competitor. we had the feet of th

— that sort of training in ukraine? ~' , , ., ., ukraine?there have _ ukraine? i think numbers alone, there have been _ ukraine? ! think numbers alone, there have been over— ukraine? i think numbers alone, there have been over 51,000 - there have been over 51,000 troops trained sincejune 202a. at any one time there are around 2000 ukrainian soldiers in the uk notjust on operation interflex but other forces. there are mine disposal courses, 1000 ukrainian marines have been trained, engineering training, all sorts... the training _ training, all sorts... the training has _ training, all sorts... the training has got - training, all sorts... the training has got longer. | training, all sorts... the training has got longer. has it shifted in focus?— shifted in focus? yes, it has to evolve — shifted in focus? yes, it has to evolve with _ shifted in focus? yes, it has to evolve with the _ shifted in focus? yes, it has to evolve with the way - shifted in focus? yes, it has to evolve with the way the l to evolve with the way the battlefield is evolv

it's not about ukraine. i remember as a former chair of the foreign relations committee 200 attempts of dialogue with russia to achieve a cease-fire. i don't believe that trump is interested in minsk three because he wants to be a winner. actually this war is a winnable one. let's start this as long as it takes approach, this year of escalation. let's stop this practice when russia is overprotected and ukraine is oversupported. this is really important to understand. so it's not about ukraine anymore. this is the era of tyrannies which started already the high world war iii. let's confiscate russian -- [ indiscernible ] 300 billion. if you are not ready to ramp up production, we in ukraine ready to do it. israel, taiwanese successes of ukrainian drones. give us money. give us more money like denmark did, like norway did. invest in ukraine defense, because ukraine will become a defense cop. it's already happened. after confiscation of russian sovereign assets, it's important thanks to biden, too little too la

.— nine in ukraine.ach of these _ nine in ukraine. the pace and reach of these assassinations| reach of these assassinations in cash are increasing, thus week it was an official reportedly involved in upgrading of cruise missiles were shot in his home. what do you make of the tactics being used in moscow? it’s you make of the tactics being used in moscow?— used in moscow? it's our various _ used in moscow? it's our various branches - used in moscow? it's our various branches of - used in moscow? it's our various branches of the l various branches of the ukrainian intelligence, and it's part of a broader pattern. ukrainian officials realise it is impossible to win the war in ukraine the 50s confines ukraine, and they're trying to bring the war to russia that is why president zelensky authorise the invasion of the cursed region and they are using drones and missiles into military and other infrastructure in russia, which is why there is a growing number of assassinations on russian soil, in addition to the

the more on shelves this visit to ukraine. we're joined now by the w. corresponded much ton to in keep and to w cheap political editor mechanic of the year in berlin. next, what was the purpose behind this unannounced visit to crane by the german trensler? right, terry? so i would say this was probably more symbolic visits, more than anything else. at least this is the way it was perceived here in ukraine . germ insurance or older shoals made a lot of promises to ukraine for german supports and future. um, there were a lot of assurances made with no real guarantees when it comes to the 650000000 euro, a package, the weapons deliveries. this contains some very important weapons that are going to be making impact on the front side, but especially also be able to protect the cities when it comes to your defense. but um this money is not new. this is part of a larger package that had already been announced back in october, when presence of landscape visited berlin. what i think is a little bit more important or more interesting is

biden is trying to get everything he can to ukraine before trump takes office.y knows trump is going to give diplomacy a chance into the russians are doing everything opposite, they are trying to put ukraine in as we could position as possible of the negotiating table by hitting their energy infrastructure in the middle of winter which is going to make it very hard for many ukrainians to stay warm. so in some ways, both sides are positioning themselves for this negotiation that's about to begin. i do think it's important that trump said i'm not going to walk away from ukraine because i think if we are going to stop putin, it's not going to be by saying hey, let's make a deal, it's by saying you cannot get any further. we have built a line of defence, it's impenetrable. crosstalk. of defence, it's impenetrable. crosstalk— crosstalk. that message to britain may — crosstalk. that message to britain may convince - crosstalk. that message to britain may convince him - crosstalk. that message to britain may convince him that it is time to stop and to move from the bat

when i'm in the mood in ukraine associated golfing dock. oh you do. i think people are exhausted, often nearly 3 years of war. you know, everyone sure has lost a family members or friends. you know you clean and still losing ground in the east to draw. sure. it's been struggling to find fresh school for the opinion full if you're all suggesting that a majority of ukrainians now wanted to see like on pre negotiated into the small as quickly as possible. and many people into all seem to feels like us president elect donald trump, might be best place to do that, to kind of lean on both russia and ukraine to end up with a conflict i on somewhat acceptable to i'm sort of the same time i have to say that is also exciting in keys, but the incoming trump administration could go to what's called to reduce the got a critical us some of the 38 to ukraine. that will also somebody's here that you know, comes promises in this conflict very quickly, could pressure ukraine into accepting some kind of a bad b, which would leave, you know, chunks of, instead of 3 to ru

will russia move assets, shift focus now towards ukraine?ically let asaad fall. they don't have the wherewithal to focus on any other part of the world because they are drained in ukraine. i do think that overall, this weakens russia's hands and it may make them somewhat more compliant, the kremlin, when they do sit down at the negotiating table with zelensky. prince andrew says he's "ceased all contact" with a chinese businessman banned from the uk after accused of being a spy. in a statement the prince said "he'd met the individual "through official channels, with nothing of a sensitive "nature ever discussed, and he's now acted "on the advice of the government after concerns "were raised." china has condemned the decision to ban the businessman, who's been described as a close confidant of the duke. dominic casciani has the details. a prince under pressure again — this time over his relationship with a mystery businessman we're not allowed to name, now revealed by the courts to be a likely spy targeting the royal family. for ten years, pr

many officials in ukraine realize it is impossible to win the war in ukraine if it is confined to ukraine trying to bring the war to russia. that is why president zelenskyy order the invasion of the kursk region of russia. that is why ukraine is firing drones and missiles at military and infrastructure in russia. that is why there has been this growing number of the on russian soil as you mentioned. in addition to the general, one of the leaders of the russian cruise missile program but before that senior russian officers, intelligence officials. that is all part of a campaign to bring the war to russia so that the russians also feel the results of this three-year-old conflict that has been felt by every ukrainian. >> there is a certain flamboyance in a way to the methods that they are using. they are very public in the way they execute some of these assassinations. highly covert operations. it is much in the style of the israeli intelligence services. >> yes and no. if you look at the casualties from the ukrainian attacks, it is very rare we actually have civilians, innocent bystanders b

conflict in ukraine.owever it concludes, we are going to have a very big russia problem. we are going to have a situation where russia is reconstituting its force, it is located on the borders of nato, is led by largely the same people as it is right now, is convinced that we're the adversary and is very, very angry. so we have a big russia problem looming as well. so the answer here is, yes, you have to do both. the trick is that industrial production and our industrial base has to support that ambition. the money's there. you've heard this across the board from jens. the money's being produced by nations right now. we're having a little bit more of a challenge having stuff to buy and that's really a strategic problem for the alliance. if i can tie this to a couple of the other responses that came , stefano's discussions about the european union and what they're doing to fortify, this is really an important part because they're working hard on the industrial base. so the washington treaty has the famous

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ukraine. for the third year running, the survival of ukraine's democracy is on the agenda here in halifax. for the third year running, we advanced the argument that every international issue is linked to ukraine's victory over putin's russia. taiwan's security, all of east asia, israel's security in the future of the middle east, africa, latin america, every international issue is directly linked to ukraine's victory over putin's russia. victory. judging from today's reports in traditional and social media, we might be forgiven for believing that ukraine can no longer win the war against russian aggression. this widespread forecast is not true. it was not true when all the experts said the same thing on the porch when he for, 2022, the date -- february 24, 2022, the date putin invaded, and it is not true now. this conventional narrative is a jumble of doom and gloom. and here at halifax, this year we are going to change this doom and gloom narrative. see, there is nothing new about this type o

a deal with booting at the expense of ukraine. the welcome to this week. to the point, i'm probably going to get us. it's good to have with us. let's meet today's guests across how you last is an expert on defense and security policy, military operations, and arms control with the european council on foreign relations. who must be guard is a journalist and military blogger, specialized in defense and security policy, and determine when dispatched here in berlin. and ma'am, you don't is a militarily analyst with kings college london joining us and from the city of munich 12. you're welcome and thank you for being here today to us. i'd like to start with you november just saw the worst losses for a crane since 2022 of what is the current state of the war? well, the war, some people even say ukraine is in a position with a city or rating by a today. obviously, of a number of weapons, a number of ammunition delivered is not enough, but what's worse is that ukraine is running into problems. was personnel, not enough soldiers, high attrition rate or higher high

as ukraine is.he same argument can be made there that is being made i think validly in ukraine. i totally agree with what john just said. which is if these countries which have worldwide ambitions are allowed to take over sovereign countries, which they are pledged not to do, remember the u.n. charter calls the respect of every countries sovereignty and in the case of ukraine, , russia was a signatoy to the agreement in 1994 when ukraine got rid of its nukes in exchange for russian respect for its sovereignty. that would be for starters. total violation of sovereignty. secondly, the u.s. is enormously interdependent with taiwan, especially in the chips and advanced computer energy. we cut off taiwan. i mean if they cut off taiwan, it's very hurtful to us. >> so the audience here put at lower levels of risk nuclear threat, climate change, , global nationalism, strength of the dollar, the refugee migration issues. is that appropriate or do you think those are of a lower-leve lower-level, low order of

nathan weddings from ukraine moines of the dot net. the list of office includes machine guns, federal which munitions, high explosive mines, the latest javelin, grenade launches, and portable anti aircraft, missiles, systems, independent russian journalist novices goes out and disguised as an hour of militant, contacted several sellers land like this, alex the appointment, but i'm just that's to really low if that's possible for us to find a low interest assist him. student is that stuff creek or whatever. with that let's be be skipped me to their store to shoot them in a little distortion. so things to move less and you speaking think simply play with them to some number more than contest invite you to the only way in the conflict night prints to be to the guys and us cause any but i blame of action is needed is going up over the street at the like the speaker, and i lead shadow, we're able to reduce just giving the bus stuff, give them the same. i blossom that i'm with dish and was the each it is what they to we shop over on the comm

and the west trumps designated special envoy for ukraine general keeps catalogs as a plan to bring ukraine and russia to the negotiating table. but will continue even considering presidents of lensky may have to pay a high price for peace, especially if he wants to get the nato protection. he hopes works by temporarily giving up some territories. on to the point we ask war and peace. a deal with qu, team at the expense of ukraine. the welcome to this week, to the point, i'm probably going to get us. it's good to have you with us. let's meet today's guests across how you last is an expert on defense and security policy, military operations and arms control with the european council on foreign relations . who must be guard is a journalist and military blogger, specialized in defense and security policy, and the german windows vast. here in berlin, and monday, now you don't, is our military analyst with kings college london joining us and from the city of munich 12, you're welcome. and thank you for being here today to lunch. i'd like to start with you in november just saw the worst losses fo

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there's naturally ukraine authorities a lot in the crisis. the searching for ways to support themselves by all means and see no harm and shaking hands and collaboration with terrorist groups. and naturally, it seems that the reports are accurate and clear that the level of cooperation between ukraine and these terrace groups is increasing the fear it might have been on a lower level before. but now it is a girlfriend with ukraine urgent them to carry out, set an operations that you created, which is against the russian forces and not just in syria. as ukraine's own front lines crumble and tens of thousands of soldiers deserves. they have thrown men and resorts as to spock, escalations worldwide, including in africa, same formula. they found the most hard lot zealous jihadist and told them to fly drones at the best way to stage attacks. they boost about this bishop of spice, is the fact that the rebels received the necessary information that allowed them to conduct a successful operation against flesh and war criminals. the whole world has alr

you said last month that ukraine is sweden's number one security priority in ukraine has the full righto defend itself inside and out of its territory. i wonder if you could talk about how you want your pan side of things see a negotiated settlement, particularly in one where they continue to occupy part of ukraine. what does that mean to sweden and what does that mean to europe. at there's a cease-fire, what are the next steps. i want to ask you the question about ukraine and nato. perhaps my understanding of it is not correct. the level of commitment that is been made to ukraine. >> short-eared thank you for the invitation to this panel. great to be back. last year came as a partner in this year came as an ally. from our perspective, this is so closely connected, what is happening in ukraine i was supporting ukraine the right thing in the small thing to do. we see this supporting ukraine. we are very concerned with this happening. i think there is a false narrative that russia is winning this war. 1000 days into a war with russia russians have not received any of their main strategic

so they've been assassinated in recent years by, by ukraine. i think this one is the most high profile is the highest, highest value of targets. i guess that ukraine has targeted in his confrontation with russia. and it is probably sending a political signal to both the international community, especially to the united states, as well as to the people of moscow that perhaps have not witnessed the war as directly as the people of ukraine have. again, that's a luca trend to associate professor of international relations. many. thanks you, sir. thank you. serious airports have reopened for domestic flights. for the 1st time since the fall of the government of bush, all of a sudden the 1st flight was operated by national carry a syrian air. it took off from damascus and landed in the left of its own clear when international flights will resume officials or calling for sanctions to be lifted to allow the aviation sector to function properly. the dramatic fall of the assad regime in syria is still sending shock waves throughout the region. multiple c

he said, ukraine does not have enough weapons that ukraine needs 19 defense systems to protect its people to protect its energy infrastructure. on the potential ceasefire, he made clear that the ukraine wants to end this war, but to be able to agree to any talks they needs robust security guarantees to prevent 14 from you folks from attacking q crane in the future. and stuff of the list is of course and natal membership for kids. and she also mentioned his talks with the french president about a potential european keeping a peace keeping force on the ground. but he said that he would needs to get some more details on that and find them. and he was also ask about, still not trump, and she made clear that she is not afraid. often not. so i'm returning to the white house. he views, he, as he said, as a strong man, and he, one seem to be on ukraine's side. now zaleski has asked for the you to speak with one voice on issues of ukraine security. how likely do you think that is to happen? well, i think that we needs to keep in mind that you opinion, it has been able to be united since the beginn

you've been in russia's war against ukraine. so talk a lot of those just a day before he was killed. so she knew carol off was charged in up, sent to you by ukrainian court for russia's use of band chemical weapons in ukraine . and he had also been sanctioned by britain for using chemical weapons on the battlefield. aust philip, but she leaped scheme direct off the foreign policy research institute center for the study of intelligence and non traditional wolf or wire that you created in secret service. would want to kill eguard cut it off. i believe the purpose behind the killing of lieutenant general new york, your life and his military assistant for the ukrainians is to hold the russian officials accountable for violate violating the laws of our conflict. uh, we should remember just last month, the russian navy captain, who ships and fired missiles at civilian targets and ukraine was blown up in his car in crime you. in the case of general carol, you crate accused him of breaking the chemical weapons convention that russia is

craig to create the crane ukraine. ukraine, ukraine, ukraine, the crane. with the down arrow discussion. russian troops invited to crane own a one perspective ukraine suffering from russian regression to be happening down in the eastern part of ukraine. this would genocide in distress as needs help us. morning i spoke to presidents give you free time. i assured him of the unwavering support of united kingdom. i have never experienced propaganda. as bad ukraine has turned into one monstrosity of psychological manipulation, reported the people have been rudely brainwashed to day. the invasion begins as vitamin pollutants as russian forces into ukraine. it was obvious that the american public was being deceived about what exactly was happening inside ukraine in this war. so what's really happening in western countries, genuinely convinced that protecting a weak ukraine from up by say, russia. when i started uncovering those reasons, it was shocking to me mentally was very, very shocking. how they mistakenly were delivered today, manipulating the audience. so