israel's subsequent wars in gaza and lebanon. direct military exchanges between israel and iran. unprecedented nature. the ceasefire in lebanon and the fall of the assad regime in syria. at the atlantic council we have sought to highlight the stakes and potential solutions across the middle east. we've done so through many years through our center for the middle east, through our scowcroft middle east security initiative and iran strategy project as well as through our strategic project hold the iranian regime accountable and establish a syrian victims fund. significantly we have also done this through our n-7 initiative in partnership with the jeffrey palpans foundation which seeks to sans the integration launched by the abraham accords between the united states, israel and arab and muslim partners around the world. thanks to will wexler and the atlantic council's take. history is in motion and you've been at the center of it. with your work to advance the united states to secure a more prosperous global future. as you wrote recently regarding u.s. forbe policy, quote, the choic

support for israel. the aftermath the holocaust, we saw one of our most elite universities sale. it was moral bankruptcy we saw unfold. did you see that clip? the world saw that and i want to take you into that. i was deeply concerned with the rise of anti-semitism particularly after the attacks against israel. i graduated from harvard myself what i'm most proud of, i graduated state a conservative. [applause] so i encourage my calling we need to have a hearing to address and combat anti-semitism on college campuses and she agreed that the hearing university presidents from penn and harvard. throughout the hearing we did not get a lot of direct answers. they were trying to avoid answering machines. the question now for the last question of the committee hearing, not my prepared question. i thought how can i ask this in a moral way x calling for the genocide of jews violate their code of conduct? one after the other after the other said it depends on the prospect in the world heard. we know it is not depe

remaining down and guzzle harm israel economically in foreign direct and israel's credit rating signalits. links and immobilization of reserves is undergoing tens of thousands of businesses and private sector productivity. threats part palestinian authority repeal he felt winner take reforms training and corruption blow to bureaucracy and further eroding the support among the palestinians, and that he has refusal to consistently and federal unequivocally the killings of october 7th month only turns out among the israeli step two communities could have lived side-by-side in peace. as a famous families of terrace, and the remarks of his leader. many partners in therk region ending on, have also been unwilling to publicly condemn hamas enemies the course of condemnation of a stroke of the silence of hamas is been deafened was the same from hostile to release the hostages to put outma his arms rivers the urgent efforts to crackdown the arms and materials hamas to deadly effect was that hamas in hisit practice hiding when the civilians of the countries around the world have this collective

israel shares our values. israel is a liberal. and the enemies of israel are the enemies. america. likewise, those who hate israel, hate america. the benefits that america gets every year from the $3 billion in military assistance we provide israel, those benefits are if we were not providing that money, if we were trying recreate for america's national the intelligence of the mossad. if we were trying recreate the military benefits of the israeli military right now israel is killing hamas and killing hezbollah every time do so we should say thank you, because hamas and, hezbollah and let's be clear, the head of the serpent is iran. they want to murder us. there is a reason that the ayatollah refers to israel the little satan and america's great satan and look october, seventh of last year we'll go down in history as one of the most horrific days, the history of humanity. it is the day of the single worst mass murder of -- in a day since, the holocaust, 12 israelis murdered women, girls raped systematically because they were jewish. you had deaths, squads going door to door, murder

israel's western avenue lies in israel's western avenue lies in israel itself is made clear that hamas nonstarter. the difference here is the fact that israel is absolutely adamant of not allowing for any serious administrative entity in the immediate term that can potentially threaten security. for israel the best we could possibly hope for, this is something that even aid organizations have reluctantly come to terms with is some sort of aid economy, if you like whereby gaza will be entirely dependent on aid. we will effectively see a tent city in ruins for them and law in order, if we could call it that will be administered from a private security company. thank ou so private security company. thank you so much _ private security company. thank you so much for— private security company. thank you so much for being _ private security company. thank you so much for being with - private security company. thank you so much for being with us. i you so much for being with us. let me show you some images now, live shots from the region. this is tel aviv put up of course in israel where the

ships and planes to come to israel's defense, we also shape israel's strong and calibrated response, destroying iran's air defenses but avoiding an escalatory cycle of an all out war. the united states also organized a coalition of 20 countries to stand up to attacks by the houthis, including their missile attacks in israel. then hezbollah, another hamas's strongest backers, was significantly weakened on the battlefield and its leadership was destroyed with our support. israel israel negotiated a cease fire with them, and after that, lebanon finally elected a new president who's not who's not beholden to hezbollah. and he began a new chapter for the lebanese people. all told, these developments in the region which the united states helped to shape, change the equation. and so now the terror network that once protected and sustained hamas is far weaker. iran is weaker, iran is weaker than it's been in decades. hezbollah is badly degraded. and after more than 15 months of war, hamas's senior leaders are dead. thousands of hamas fighters are dead, and the military formations have been d

ships and planes to come to israel's defense, we also shaped israel's strong and calibrated response. destroying iran's air defenses. but avoiding an escalatory cycle of an all-out war. the united states also organized the coalition of 20 countries to stand up to attacks by the houthis, including the missile attacks in israel. then hezbollah, and other hamas' strongest backers was significantly weakened on the battlefield. its leadership was destroyed with our support israel negotiate add cease-fire with them. after that lebanon finally elect add new president who is not beholden to hezbollah and they can begin a new chapter of the lebanese people. all told, these developments in the region which the united states helped to shape changed the equation. so now the terror network that once protected and sustained hamas is far weaker. iran is weaker. iran is weaker than it's been in decades. hezbollah is badly degraded. and after more than 15 months of war, hamas' senior leaders are dead. thousands of hamas fighters are dead. anti-military -- and the military formation vs. been destroyed

but my interest in israel, my relationship with israel is that something that happened as result of myd feeling that i somehow had to appeal to a segment of the republican audience that would be very happy that i was a supporter of israel. that happened quite naturally. at the age of 17, just a month before my 18th birthday, a gentleman who was to become a culturally into months and i went to the middle east and we traveled all over the middle east come places that it probably couldn't and wouldn't go to today. syria, lebanon, jordan, turkey and israel. when i went to israel something happen inside me that i can't explain but you understand it. and that is it's a place i've never been in my life but i felt like i was at home. keep in mind in 1973 -- 1973 a moderate israel was 25 years old. it was. it was a struggling the country that frankly was still can't get up on its feet, its economy was tough. and if people -- very few people had a real sense that they would be what it is today in terms of the economic and technological powerhouse that it is. israel's economy was largely selling

support for israel.] unfortunately, in the aftermath of that bloodiest day since the holocaust, we saw our quote unquote most elite universities fail. it was not just moral equivocation. it was moral bankruptcy that we saw on full display. i want to ask you, did you see that committee hearing clip? yes. [applause] the world saw the committee hearing clip and i want to take you inside that committee hearing. i was deeply concerned with the rise of anti-semitism particularly after the october seventh hamas attack against israel. i graduated from harvard myself, the first member of my immediate family to have that opportunity to graduate from college, but i'm most proud of graduating and staying at a conservative, which is a big achievement. [applause] so i encourage my colleague, chairwoman virginia foxx, that we need to have a hearing to address and combat this rise of anti-semitism on our college campuses. she agreed. we had the hearing with university presidents from m.i.t., from penn, and harvard. thro

preserves israel's right to defend itself of national law it achieves israel's aim of hostility on itsnt from the war in gaza. since the deal was signed israeli forces start to withdraw from southern lebanon. to ensure remaining infrastructure is rolled and has below does not return. u.s. in france are working hour-by-hour to monitor the agreement and now just six weeks after the deal lebanon's parliament voted overwhelmingly to elect a new president the first time lthe country had a national leader in more than two years just yesterday it elected a new prime minister. both are important steps to becoming secure sovereign successful nation. and meet the needs of lebanese people. we sought to and swallowed advances legitimate aspiration of lasting security and palestinians independent iby viable state on its own. one month into the conflict the meeting in tokyo i outline principles of the united states saw essential to achieving principles included gaza never again ruled by hamas or used as a platform for terrorism or other violent attacks. with gaza united with the west bank under pale

and hamas is no match for israel on its own. so all these things have come together, and suddenly it gave the qataris, the americans and others much more to work with because it gave israel more confidence and changed bibi netanyahu's political realities. his numbers went went way up, and it obviously dramatically weakened hamas and iran's ability to resist. so all of this came together, and it wasn't that us diplomacy suddenly got more able. it's been able all along in trying to bring this about. these are people like bill burns or are professionals, tony blinken and others. what changed was the context in which they were operating. and it gave a it gave them simply much more to work with. and i think what we're about to hear from the qataris is the first fruit of that. and again, going forward, we hope it's not the only fruit. we want to see more progress between israel and hamas and gaza. and obviously, we'd like to see a pivot to the larger issue of israeli relations with palestinians. and i also think there's opportunities

ships and planes to come to israel's defense, we also shape israel's strong and calibrated response, destroying iran's air defenses. but avoiding an escalatory cycle of an all out war. the united states also organized a coalition of 20 countries to stand up to attacks by the houthis, including their missile attacks in israel. then hezbollah, another hamas's strongest backers, was significantly weakened on the battlefield, and its leadership was destroyed. with our support, israel's israel negotiated a ceasefire with them, and after that, lebanon finally elected a new president who's nlah. and he can begin a new chapter for the lebanese people. a helped to shape change the equation. and so now the terror network that once protected and sustained hamas is far weaker, iran is weaker, iran is weaker than it's been in decades. hezbollah is badly degraded. and after more than 15 months of war, hamas's senior leaders are dead. thousands of hamas fighters are dead, and the military formations have been destroyed. with nowhere to turn, moscow finally agreed to releasing hostages. you know, th

ambassador to israel david friedman and thank you for your expertise. we love israel. we pray for the best. kayleigh. >> kayleigh: politically, personally, and if you are among the families that could be holding the signs, you are praying your idf officer contacts you and their name is on the list. if they're not the 33 hostages in the first phase, you pray that the conditions hold so they are in the second phase or the third phase and all hostages come home. politically speaking you cannot look at this in isolation from the election of donald trump, and the days after, they wanted a cessation, and china wanted peaceful coalition, and russia is ready to speak with the u.s. we're in a safer world, a new world, and one where the hostages come home. >> harris: you were mentioning and we all kind of were remembering all of the families, and i know bret baier mentioned it with whom we have spoken, and they are waiting in anticipation, and i had the parents of omer who now i think would be 22 or 23 because they've had birthdays in captivity in 466 days, and it was confirmed

israel will not hesitate and israel will not forgive. to the houthis, perhaps have not -- perhaps you have not been paying attention to what happens ed to the middle east over the past year. well, allow me to remind you what has happened to hamas, to hezbollah, to assad. to all those who have attempted to destroy us. let this be your final warning. this is not a threat, it is a promise. you will share the same miserable fate. thank you, madam president. >> i thank the representative of israel for their statement. there are no further names inscribed on the list of speakers, but before adjoining the meeting, as this was the last scheduled meeting of this council for the month of december, i would like to take a moment and express sincere appreciation of the delegation of the united states to the members of this council. and to the secretary. -- secretariat. for all of the support you have given us. as you all know, it has been a busy month. and one in which we rallied on to consensus on several important issues under our purview. we could

we have started israel supporter mike huckabee he'll be nominated as in bass that are to israel. mike waltz is set to be national security advisor, marco ruby, it was set to be secretary of state and at least the fabric as un invested. or are you expecting radical change in policy from washington based on these personal decisions, going to be clear. policy was already in such an awful place under the by the administration. however, i do anticipate that things will get worse, especially with someone like a former governor mike huckabee who is a committed, evangelical christian, has talked about the fact that the policy and people do not exist. he's described israeli settlements as simply neighborhoods. what i, what you hear from is really ministers is that they're planning to annex the west bank. you have settlers waiting to move back into gaza as soon as the, the firing has stopped a. so all those, obviously things are already so horrifyingly bad under the current administration. but i do worry that, that moving forward, we will simply continue to see the same policies as well as

so israel has not achieved its aim of destroying hamas. that said, the incoming fire from gaza into israel is largely subsided. and, yes, the senior leadership of the group has been wiped out. going forward, the question is, whether hamas would play any part at all in the reconstruction of gaza. israel wouldn't accept that but, given how entrenched they are and how much support they have in gaza, thatis much support they have in gaza, that is a big question as to how they would be represented. if they are excluded completely from any post—war negotiations, who would represent them in a non—violent way? the american side others are pushing for a greater role from the palestinian authority, which runs the occupied west bank. israel doesn't want that. so huge questions going forward over the future of gaza. we will be back in a moment or two, but i want to bring in our gaza correspondent, who is in istanbul monitoring events. he is talking to all his contacts. bring me up—to—date with what you are hearing about what hamas have said in the las

israel does not deliberately target civilians. as terrorists harbor them in mosques, churches and schools and hospitals and so many more. the israeli government has taken unprecedented steps to minimize civilian harm during conflicts, a commitment that's unparalleled by any other nation facing terrorists. the accusation that israel uses starvation as a weapon of war is a blatant lie. ignoring the immense humanitarian aid israel has proven and provided to gaza, despite ongoing attacks. this illegitimate attack on israel emboldens terrorist organizations like hamas. both president biden and president trump have rightly condemned these charges, recognizing their destructive implications. this critical legislation, which was previously passed in this body with strong, strong bipartisan support, send as clear and unequivocal message the united states will not tolerate the i.c.c.'s abuse of power against our allies or our citizens. once again, the i.c.c. has no jurisdiction over the united states of america or the people of israel. they

now if you're going to endorse israel's expansions policies and israel's attempt to liquidate the palestinian struggle for freedom and justice wants them for all and eliminate that for israel. moving forward, we are looking at an absolutely horrifying situation in the prospect of a very, very dangerous escalation in the region. i know i, i keep hearing this idea that under trump, it'll get even worse because it's not even a pretense of concern of who we just talked about on my for policy and human rights, etc. is there any reason to believe that the by the administration's pastor was restraining is really all the, i mean i, after looking dogs, i just, it's hard for some people to believe that it mattered at all. no, i mean i certainly agree with you that the, the idea that bite in was doing anything to try to prevent what, what israel was trying to do is, is false. and in many ways, i think this does contribute. i mean, as omar was saying, getting rid of the pretense at least gets rid of the hypocrisy. i mean, in many ways, i think this contributes to this perception of trump as someone who n

we moved to bert 7 for tax is joining us now from video media in israel. thank you very much indeed for being with us. first of all, what's your reaction to this means? it's better a native deliver. it's too late for my parents to make their full doesn't thousands of people named guys that whole thousands do peace rallies. and this is exactly what the encoding seems of the savings for seeds for an immediate cease fire for indeed, and to for the beginning of a peace process. and i'm very happy with a all those that a can, they would be able to sleep a quiet to night and those those that will go back to the families. and i'm was the very sense of those that the deed to a full then we still don't get no find exactly the cease fire is going to be put into place. and we understand, of course, that these really government is going to be holding a vote on this. so as far find on thursday, there are still many areas which i switch this cruise folder. are you confident that this these far crude holes on the caps is? should be returned in exchange for palestinian pr

in western media. israel has a right to defend itself. israel has an absolute right to defend themselves, realize a right not only to defend itself by to, to seek the military destruction of from us. yes, israel had a right on october 7th to repel attacks on its territory, but it has no right under international law to make war on the gaza strip. a territory that according to the law is occupied for 57 years. so that little rhetorical device of claiming that israel has a right to defend itself has been used and abused in western media to provide justifications for holy unlawful acts. israel has a right to defend itself. that was the editorial line that was drilled into us into overall coverage, denying access to fluid as clinics of punishment. and that's we should all be clear and saying that as well. all you obviously that it has a right to defend itself. people with terrified of using the word genocide and coverage. they still all you will very rarely see it any bbc coverage. i understand interviewees as the word genocide. this is a genocide happening in front of her. i the, we have to

israel. up did this go? >> this came from the president, the secretary, and those around them. >> there are people who would argue this isn't a time for debate, particularly in those immediate days in the aftermath of october 7th. >> i would argue exactly the opposite. i think the moment of october 7th was a moment of incredible worldwide solidarity with israel. and had israel leveraged that moment to press for a real just and lasting peace, i think we would be in a very different place now in which israel would not be facing this increasing isolation around the world and in which its hostages would be free. >> reporter: among the weapons israel requested from the united states, 2,000-pound bombs, one of the most powerful in the u.s. arsenal, typically used to destroy large targets like weapons depots. nearly three weeks after the october 7th attacks, the israel military posted a video on social media of an air strike in gaza city, saying it targeted a hamas tunnel. more than 100 people were

or not this israel.it is a real, is it at the end of the war or a pause in fighting like we have seen 14 months ago? ultimately, if there is a deal, who govern gaza? how long does israel stay. i the irony of the moment is 20 years ago this year, the former prime minister of israel, ariel sharon made the decision to take down israeli settlements and move the israelis out of gaza. after that happened, hamas took over. they won a war against competing factions. they won in election and starting 2006, hamas has ruled the gaza strip for 19 years. what do the people in gaza get for that? they got october 7th. that has led to, perhaps go to the finality in this conflict today. we will see like i said in the beginning, slow your roll because it's got a ways to go. >> sandra: live pictures coming out of god's have. tel aviv earlier where you see a lot of emotions on the street and likely to continue with the prime minister putting out a statement basically stating, no deal yet. we are hashing out the details coac

how does israel protect? is security is probably with the american guarantees, but that these guarantees can go on forever. and that will be as early as we know, they won't, they mark us to talk you on monday. right? cuz that's the last thing the americans want to do. so we have to wait and see aren't part of our mother's pessimistic about trumps. the ability to change those policies to forced as real, to do reasonable things. whereas whole other american presidents have always gone along with israel's vicious criminal amount of genocidal activities that include the distinguished public policy. finally at the american university of bailey. thank you very much indeed. for being with us, let's go back to honey mode in general about in central garza honey. you've been talking to us about the way that people there have been reacting to the news that appears to be a ceasefire in place. or will be put in place in the next few days between homeless and israel. just give us an idea of what the atmosphere has been lik

yeah, here seen wire that israel's defense. but as to boasted about, grab the headlines and not just for how it happened. idea of soldiers eliminated him in southern gaza, but the twist. his death was accidental, confirmed only later or through dental and dna tests. seeing why it turned out was one of the 3 militants killed in a raid almost exactly a year off to they have mass attack on israel. he was believed to have most of mine that in war had spent 22 year isn't in his really jail before being freed. you know, 2011 prison or exchange. he led have mosse and gaza since the death of a smile here, and never left the palace student in place since the beginning of the war to the wires and came with dramatic visuals. the idea of released drone photos of his final moments showing a man who forwards to the bitter end for his support or is it turned him pain to a symbol of defiance and the global reaction. surprisingly quiet. iran was one of the few countries to condemn the killing when muslims look up to martyrs in war, standing on

possible to exist for israel. the way i know it exists today without the substantial support the western powers, but in the west has to operate within viewing it. janet seems like, like israel right now, can operate within period to even though the west doesn't particularly like it. i wonder if, in some strange way is really is giving the united states and there was more broadly a taste of what's on the policy is that it's some strange sort, sort of geo political come up ends of actually being faced with the consequences of your own policies in non other than your partner or a country that you call your partner? yeah, i mean i get to say something even more detail. you can come to the city. yeah. it's a jewish projects. obviously it is the jewish studies, and the people who are the main move is behind creating israel. yeah. old way they were in the west. the would do is people the role stalls, families, etc. who provided a lot of the money in the beginning to buy outlines to support these riley states. and that co

israel has bomb 11 on yemen. it's targeted officials and military facilities in iran as well and trumpet said openly that israel should bomb it, runs nuclear facilities, input worry about the rest later, which up in the white house doing dramatically increased the chances of an all out war between is really near on i, i think we do increase that risk. i mean, trump has this reputation of sort of being an anti war president because of some exploitation of rhetoric. he's used in places like michigan talking about ending the wars and bringing peace and all of that. he says no more than one. there were no wars on control. it's utter nonsense and look at his actual record. actually, if it's stuff that just flies into the radar and people give him a passport. but you've had any like one of the drone war in the region with significantly more and far more significant civilian casualties because he did away with any kind of calculus about civil risk to civilians. and so you have thousands upon thousands of people being ki

now what israel's real ambitions, all israel's policy of whoever hurts us will be heard back, has driven invasions and bombardments, especially in the last year. but in 2024. these doctrine reached new heights with a series of illuminations of some of the country's most formidable foes. so what exactly has israel managed to achieve? and how has the world reacted? one of the biggest take downs was, has been leader, hassan us, roland, a sworn animal of israel for decades. in a dramatic strike, the idea of obliterated his bunker and the lebanese capital b route, reportedly using 85 us supply bombs, these munitions designed to penetrate deep before the 10, a thing left, a mess of cratering, they wake underscoring the operations. devastating power the killing of a foreign national on another country soil surely grounds for global condemnation. right? not exactly, the world's reaction was muted. many governments remained silent while some even described the assassination as justified. but the cost of the strike went far beyond ms rela, himself, as many as $300.00 civilians, repulsively lost th

the iranians and yes even the palestinians already want to annihilate israel. already hate israel.regard and disdain for israel. do we honestly think there's anything we going to do that will integrate those hatreds and fears and anxieties that of a directed towards the people for all these years? no. you wonder how would we know you would be different? because to me this is not just a political issue. it is a deeply personal, a deeply spiritual, it's a matter of conviction. as i said i didn't start building my relationship with israel because i said something i'm going to run for office. i might run for president. i got to go up there and make all the jewish republicans really happy with me. i better say the right things. maybe somebody can coach me a what is supposed to say and handy some talking points. folks, you've heard today what i believe, i back it up with 42 years of being an advocate of israel. long before i was in politics. i was taking the same stance for israel. i have, i am, and i assure you that i will. and i thank you very, very much for the opportunity to be with

ambassad to israel. served arkansas govern from 198 until00 chaired the national governo association for a year and w a 200016 presidential candidate he talked about the raeli-palestinian conflict in a form of the jewish coalition in washington, d.c. here is a look. coxwell, i do believe in miracles. and i will tell you why. because you all knew i was the speaker right after lunch and you came back anyway. i am deeply grateful for that. [applause] [laughter] it is a delight to be with all of you today. i want to say thank you. i want to tell you how much i admiredi you. anyone who list of 14 different political speeches in a a row, proof positive that there is a certain level of extraordinary patience and long-suffering and you've proven that here today. i'm a baptistou i would never lt that long. i can tell you that right now. as mentioned i've been to israel. more than any other candidate as if that somehow qualifies me too be an expert. qualifies me too be an advocate. but i am anvo advocate, precisey

and that israel should carry on with the war, but nonetheless, you still have people all over israel protesting both for and against a deal and to thank you very much indeed, those honda sounds good talking to us from jordan's capital. i'm on the associated press and used agency as linked to details of the potential cx, 5 deal, which will report them to be implemented in 3 stages. in stage one i'm us for release of 33 is really captives. that's going to include females, civilians as soldiers, children, i'm civilians of was 50 years old. in return, israel is going to freight 50 palestinian prisoners for each females soldier on thursday for each civilian hostage. and as part of this phase, israel is also going to hold fighting and pull its forces back to the edges of gaza . the space palestinians will return to their homes. an additional aid will flow into the strip. second phase is going to begin $42.00 days into the sea spot, with a declaration of sustainable tom thomas will then release all remaining mail captive israel win, negotiate the race of more palestinian prisoners and withd

even people who previously supported israel. so the questioning, well, well, what are we doing here? what, what is this country doing? why are we giving so much military support and political support to the country that actually is going round? you know, and it's, it's definitely the politically cleansing dog. some people use the word genocide, you know, it's, but the beginnings of that and that goes against all of the values and principles that we say we hold the are in the west. so let me ask you about that specifically because it's not only about the valleys but the house about commonsense, basic commonsense and your own sense of self preservation. and what i find paradoxical about the western decision making is that the west, some of the one have eagerly picks up battles to be a very powerful nuclear armed opponents like russia and with damaged, prefers confrontations, kinetic confrontation over negotiations. but when it comes to suppose it allies like israel is the other way around, it seems to be open to being used to bein

you know, after he was killed in a, in a targeted strike by israel. you know, he was in a, the 2nd story apartment, that was the only apartment that was hit and he was hit after. you know, he was warned by his really government officials that he, that he would be killed in many of his, of close family members were killed in that strike as well. it was the that was dedicated to his young daughter, his, his young daughter, her husband and their infant son. they were killed in april of last year as well in the, the book. it is one of the best books i've read, frankly it and in some of the weight i'm sure is driven by knowing how his story ends. but reading his interview is reading his essay is reading his palms is, is a profound experience and i, i would recommend the book. it's called if i must died, published by o r books. i had nothing to do with the publication of it. but it's, it's, it's a, it's a tremendous work in its ability to kind of humanize the experience of, of what he, what he had lived through. and he, he talks about how he decided to lear

israel was still willing willing to be at the table, hamas wasn't. that conned for some period of time. then you had this period of time where hamas wasn't able to really make decisions, could have conversations but couldn't negotiate in any meaningful way. when you hear us ceja mas has been the prime obstacle to accepting the deal, that has been accurate. >> you mentioned israel, there would be future governance in gaza. hamas agreed to this. do you think they recognized this? >> i wouldn't want to speak for them at all obviously. but i think when you look at opinion across the region, it is not just conclusion of the israeli government that hamas has disqualified itself from leadership. obviously the israeli government never thought hamas should run israel in the first place. but hamas can play no role at all in the future of ga savage we hear that from countries across the region. you cannot have a terrorist organization that is committed to the destruction of israel that has launched this horrific conflict, that has ruled in the death of more tha

they have mass attack on israel. he was believe to have most of mine that seeing wire had spent 22 year isn't in his really jail before being freed. you know, 2011 prison or exchange he loved have mice and gaza since the death of a smile, honey, and never left the palace student in place since the beginning of the war to the wires and came with dramatic visuals. the idea of released drone photos of his final moments showing a man who forwards to the bitter end for his support or is it turned him pain to a symbol of defiance and the global reaction. surprisingly quiet. iran was one of the few countries to condemn the killing when muslims look up to martyrs in war, standing on the battlefield in combat attire and out in the open. not in a hide out facing the enemy. the spirit of resistance will be strengthened. it's really officials double down again claiming it would increase the chances of hostages returning home. this is a major, military and moral achievement for israel and a victory for the entire free willed agai

israel has encroached on the territory. they've built military bases in the northern part of the gaza strip. what's your take on all of that? >> well, hamas is not popular even among palestinians. and, you know, there is a legitimate concern about them having any kind of continued leadership. the problem, of course, is that israel's been unable to defeat them militarily because it is hamas is more than just an armed group. they are a de facto government. and they do have a they do have something of a popular base, albeit a minority one. the problem, though, of course, is that the more palestinians israel is killed, it's creating more fighting. there are actually more people, more palestinians fighting gaza, fighting israelis in gaza than there were at the time the war launched. and these aren't people who necessarily support hamas terrorism or the reactionary ideology, but they don't like the fact that their their land is being invaded and their people are being bombed. so, so and so we've seen as the professor, though, of