in third with just 7% is new hampshire's own governor, chris sununu.al election matchup, sununu is the only republican candidate who could beat president joe biden according to this poll. sununu said earlier this year he was considering a run for president but has not officially jumped into the race. joining us now, national politics reporter for the hill, julia manchester. julia, good morning. so let's talk about the state of the republican field. let's start with governor sununu, actually. he's one of the representatives, perhaps, of some of the lesser known republicans considering jumping in the race. talk to us, though, about the uphill climb someone like he faces considering the poll we just showed where governor desantis who's not a lesser name, who's widely considereded the most formidable challenger to trump is getting crushed in that poll and many others we're seeing across the nation. >> you know, jonathan, it's really interesting because i think a lot of this polling sort of mirrors the problem that republicans had in 2022 where in primaries

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even larry hogan acknowledging chris sununu was well positioned. asia hutchins, who is also now the former governor of arkansas has been making stops around the country and has more stops here in iowa planned. there are others that could try to fill that sort of lane here as well. but this is going to be difficult here and, frankly, with a republican party that is looking at attention continuing to be around the investigations into donald trump, the former president, no matter how much time he spend in west palm beach, is going to continue to have defenders around him, stemming from those very investigations into him and we have seen this time and again from the impeachment proceedings down to the fbi raid on mar-a-lago, just last year. republicans, when questioned, have a tendency to defend donald trump when it hits right into the republican wheelhouse we repeatedly heard about from speakers on stage this weekend that the federal government is too strong handed, the department of justice, they contend, is politically motivated and donald trump is

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as this republican field fills out -- you've got chris sununu, asa hutchinson weighing their options,former vice president mike pence. it was positioned to be the moderate "normie" republican candidate moving forward? david: this is a season where a lot of governors are reaching out to journalists so i spend a lot of time around governors all of a sudden. my sense is the republicans have a strong -- it is like a major league baseball organization with a great minor leagues and a pitcher who cannot throw a pitch, and that pitcher is donald trump. underneaththere's a lot of talent in the party. when you talk to the governors -- governor kemp, governor sununu, governor youngkin -- one of the things they point to is that people are moving to red states. they are moving out of blue states and into red states. why? their claim is people like the quality of life. they like the tax structure, they like the schools. so, florida, georgia, texas, a lot of people are moving to these places. these governors are not focusing on some of the culture war issues, except for desantis. ey are not making

percent ron desantis 25 percent and mike pence 8 percent nikki haley at 5 percent larry hogan and chris sununut 1 percent in the latest poll. one of the many surveys out there will be another one early sunday? >> yes at the conclusion of the event. >> independent line good morning. >> thank you for having me. >>caller: thank you for all of the americans who welcomed me. i am trying very hard to pay back but my question is related to that i am very tired because they see division in the political environment so why do we have this division? >> so why don't we have some people the democrats are unique but we have the people work together quick. >> congratulations on your citizenship that is very exciting. however to your question i think there has been so many books or articles written on this about polarization in the d united states and it could be traced back to a number of different factors. >> and how congressional districts are drawn. >> and they have become more homogeneous that to see congressional districts become really really blue or red and then to see that trickle up in the house of

lisa: one potential candidate still deciding -- new hampshire governor chris sununu -- also wants toll back him if he wins the nomination. >> yeah, look, i'm a lifelong republican. i'm going to support the republican nominee. lisa: this, as trump heard cheers saturday on political home turf. his speech at cpac, the conservative political action conference, was a mix of philosophy and fabrication. but something new -- the former president who once railed against mail-in and some early voting is changing strategy. >> republicans must compete using every lawful means to win. that means swamping the left with mail-in votes, early vote and election day votes. lisa: trump, in the midst of multiple investigations, told reporters he will stay in the race even if indicted. on stage, he seemed to lash out at key rival ron desantis who once wanted to privatize social security. >> we are not going back to people who want to destroy our great social security system, even some in our own party. i wonder who that might be. lisa: the florida governor who now says he won't disrupt social security was

geoff: new hampshire governor chris sununu.mer maryland governor larry r out a idenal earers we. an hogi spoke with him about his decision. welcome back to the newshour. >> thank you for having me. amna: you decided not to run over concerns that a crowded primary would once again benefit donald trump. governor sununu said it doesn't matter how many people get in, as long as they get out early. do you agree with that? >> i don't necessarily disagree. one of the many reasons i put a lot more thought into it. i didn't want to have a crowded primary and have what happened in 2016 happen. but i don't disagree with governor sununu. i think if you are not seriously contending and if you don't have a shot to win, you probably should not get in the race in the first place, if you are trying to be a cabinet secretary or if you are auditioning to be vice president or if you want to get a book deal. but if you think you can compete and have a chance to win, everybody ought to make that decision. but if the campaign is not going well, they

joining me to discuss much more is the republican governor of new hampshire, chris sununu who is consideringdential run. governor sununu, always good to see you. let's start with that trump expects to be charged by the manhattan d.a. what's your reaction? >> well , again, there's a lot f unknowns and it's building sympathy for the former president and the fact that i was with coffee with some folks and none of them were big trump supporters, but they all felt like he was being attacked and as you pointed out, this is likely some sort of misdemeanor on an issue seven years ago and has nothing to do with january 6th. there are folks that think this still has something to do with january 6th and i think not just the media and a lot of the media have misplayed this in terms of building sympathy for the former president and it does drastically change the paradigm as we go into the election. >> the president calls for protests and he's urging supporters to take our country back. obviously, every american has the constitutional right for peaceful protest and do you think former president trump has

joining me now to discuss and much more is the republican governor of new hampshire, chris sununu, who is considering a presidential run. governor sununu, always good to see you. let's start with trump saying that he expects to be charged by the manhattan d.a. what's your reaction? >> well, again, i think there's a lot of unknowns. i can tell you, i think it's building a lot of sympathy for the former president. i think the fact that i was at coffee this morning with some folks and none of them were big trump supporters, but they all said, you know, they felt like he was being attacked. and as you pointed out, this is likely some sort of misdemeanor on an issue seven years ago. this has nothing to do with january 6th. there's folks out there that still thinks this has something to do with january 6th. i just think that the, not just the media, but a lot of the democrats have misplayed this in terms of building sympathy for the former president. and it does drastically change the paradigm, as we go into the '24 election. >> the former president has also called for, quote, protests and u

desantis has that opportunity and chris sununu said something important. he has not declared he's running but hogan is out so you're looking for an animal tti trump maybe sununu. >> i'm a lifelong republican. i have no doubt any solid republican would be better than what comes out. as far as former president trump, i think he's going to run, obviously. he's in the race. he's not going to be the nominee. >> now, he says he's not going to be the nominee but he says he would support him if he is which gets you on the debate stage. if you're the republican national committee and you're really going to have this pledge, can a liz cheney run? that's the interesting part for me. if you want to change this trump desantis top tier and someone comes off the under card, you have to do it on the debate stage. >> they don't think trump will be the nominee. it's easy to say i support who the nominee is because it won't be him. it might boomerang back on them and they count find themselves having difficulty down the line later on because of the numbers as you said, they

it may be for someone like a chris sununu or a liz cheney. >> we'll talk about that later on in our nextr, if a moderate could possibly win the republican nomination. matt, another interesting development from cpac that i'm curious to hear your take on. kari lake won the vice presidential poll over people like ron desantis and nikki haley. is that a name recognition thing or does it tell us something about the maga wing of the party? >> i think it definitely tells us something about the maga wing, but i wouldn't call it the maga win. i would call it the base of the republican party in this. what's fascinating is i watched you show that clip of ron desantis which he was at simi valley, obviously the home of the reagan library. if ronald reagan showed up at this cpac convention, ronald reagan, their hero of the past would be booed because of where he stood on bridging divides, where he stood on various issues. he would be booed today at that cpac convention. >> would ronald reagan himself boo -- he wasn't the kind of person who would do that. but would he, as his son suggested -- i think m

our economy much like europe did with russia -- >> i want to ask you about republican governor chris sununu wrote an op-ed saying some in the republican party have lost their more capas evidenced by president trump who once called putin's invasion genius and savvy the governor of florida said similar things that appear to be diminishing the importance of the flict conflict. the top two contenders in the republican party are pushing this? >> i think it's sad, margaret. why not just focus on two things, look at how valor russ the ukrainians have been fighting for their own freedom. that should restore confidence, maybe n our own nation and the gift that we have of being free and having freedom of expression and freedom from fear. you know, i think also, look at the atrocities that have been on the ukrainian people. also recognize that it's in our interest. where does it stop? putin went to sebastopol to get annexed in 2014. >> yeah. >> and, of course, there's a direct line between that and the reinvasion. >> there is. i've got to -- >> if we're not strong, you know -- >> i've got to leave it

. >> while you won't be running, governor chris sununu of new hampshire, governor glenn youngkin of virginia, governor asa hutchinson of arkansas, all are considering running. do you like any of them? >> i like all of them. theye all, you know, friends and, i think, good governors. >> i mean, who among them do you think actually stands a chance at mounting a real challenge? >> i don't think we know yet i like all of them. i think they've all done a great job as governor. i think they have skills. but we're a year away from the first primary, and everybody's sort of rushing to judgment, like they always do. a year out from the 2016 election, they said jeb bush, who was a great governor of florida, that he was the next president. he was at 30-something percent and trump was at one. you know, it was scott walker was a great governor who was going to be president. and rick perry was a great governor who was going to be president. tim pawlenty. so somebody's gonna shine, and somebody's gonna rise. i can't tell you who it's going to be. >> well, you just cited several governors who were in the lea

warmer vice president mike pence south carolina tim scott, kristi noem, and new hampshire governor chris sununu. but adoration for trump was on full display at cpac where eb phillips took a seat at a replica desk against the backdrop of a faux oval office. >> trump first and then desantis, let's do that in 28. >> reporter: from jacksonville, florida, she won a desantis hat. she is torn but believes that trump is the stronger choice for 2024. >> i believe this had. but that is enough i love donald trump. >> reporter: at the early stage of the campaign it is hardly a two-man contest as an ohio businessman who jumped in the race last month made clear on the cpac state. >> when we rally behind the quite a make america great again. we did not just hunger for a single man. we hungered for the unapologetic pursuit of excellence, that is what it means to be an american. >> reporter: even as the republican field grows, the conversations at cpac and the comparisons between the candidates always came back to trial. >> i think governor desantis is wonderful and amazing. i don't think it is his time yet. if

republican governor chris sununu joining us. 59-mile border with canada, you said biden administrationut funding and hindered control of the northern border. if biden administration believes it is a priority, partner with new hampshire. why would you think it is a priority after what you have seen on the southern border for 2-1/2 years? >> yeah, look, it is absolute crisis on the southern border and it is not just issue of texas or arizona, it is a 50-state crisis, seeing it with fentanyl, human trafficking and now coming over the northern border, largest unsecured border in the free world. there is opportunity and they are taking advantage of it. i'm not asking this administration for money, just asking for permission, ice delegation. allow me to use state police, sheriff and town officials to do the job they are unwilling to do. it is part of a larger section of new york, vermont, we have a lot of crossings, increased 800% the last six months. it is real and happening and i'm looking for permission. >> bill: why would you need permission, it is your state, if you want to use your pol

reports possibly could be looking at internet of his own was new hampshire governor republican chris sununu. a story in the "wall street journal" this morning says under the headline that he is banking on voters tired of trump saying mr. sununu is turned to raise money to assessable for a possible presidential campaign as i try to win over the republican party most ardent or ideologically driven voters were those folks on battles over racial diversity or gender identity. rather the government has offered offering is part of the prosperously buys a more centrist republicans and it bears who dislike the gop's turn under former president trump and what a calm her tone in politics. governor sununu on the sundayrn shows yesterday on nbc program "meet the press" was asked about potential race also is a thoughts on donald trump running again. here's some of his comments from yesterday. >> the rnc chair rodda mcdaniels says she wants to candidates signed a pledgeor their support the republican nominee no matter who it is o if you want to participate in an rnc sanctioned event. are you countable sig

rivals also skipped cpac and headed to florida including mike pence, tim scott, crist ty nome and chris sununurump was on full display at cpac. >> trump first. >> reporter: kelly wore a ron desantis hat as she supported a trump stick er. she said is she's torn but believes trump is the stronger choice for 2024. >> i really love this hat because i'm going with trump. >> reporter: at the early stage of the campaign, it's hardly a two-man contest. an ohio businessman jumped into the race last month made clear. >> when we rallied behind the cry to make america great again, we did not just hunger for a single man. we hungered for the unapologetic pursuit of excellence. that is what it means to be an american. >> reporter: even as the republican field grows, the conversations at cpac and the comparisons between candidates can always came back to trump. >> governor delaware tan sis is wonderful. i just don't think it's his time yet. give it four years and he would be a great successor to trump. >> reporter: donald trump comes for the final day of the convention. all eyes clearly are on on his message

former vice president mike pence, tim scott, south dakota governor christi gnome, and new hampshire chris sununuesk against the backdrop of a faux on the floor offensively. >> reporter: she wore a desantis hat. she said she's torn, but believes trump is the stronger choice. >> i really love this hat, because it's like, let us alone, but as of right now. >> reporter: it's hardly a two-man contest, an was made clear on the cpac stage. >> when we rally behind the cry to make america great again, we did not just hunger for a single man. we hungered for the unapologetic pursuit of excellence. that is what it means to be an american. >> reporter: yet, even as the field grows, the conversations at cpac, and the comparisons between candidates always came back to trump. >> i think desantis is wonderful, but i don't think it's his time yet. if he could give it four years, i think he would be a great successor to trump. >> reporter: in the middle of this celebration of the former president donald trump, these gentle calls to turn to a new generation, not met with a lot of applause here. clearly there's a r

and then you have the asa hutchinsons, the chris sununus, the chris christies, the other potentials who the question is whether there is enough of an electorate there to support something that shows the divide. >> you know, maggie, it's interesting that trump so far is avoiding criticizing desantis by name. why is that, and should we expect the overt jabs to start flying soon? >> well, i would say he's criticizing him by name when he calls him ron desanctimonious, which we've seen him do on his social media feed, and he's been road testing other nicknames, although he claims otherwise falsely. in general i think that he is trying not to elevate him. i think he's trying not to put too much of a face on him, wolf, because he is somebody, desantis, who not every trump voter knows, who not everybody is familiar with. and i think that he wants to keep him, you know, sort of at a remove. i expect that is going to change. and, remember, we are looking at a 90-day period where we're going to see a lot of ron desantis because he's doing this book tour. then we'll know how many are jumping into t

. >> bill: chris sununu joining us now might be a candidate himself at some point. governor, thank you for coming back here. >> good morning. >> bill: watching that clip we've seen this show before and saw how it came out. >> is that a question? i don't know. look, i guess the question is what will happen if a lot of folks jump on the stage, right? i have always said i don't mind who gets into a race. the key for republicans and what everyone does understand the discipline in getting out. the discipline in saying i'm polling in single digits by the time this christmas comes we'll get out and narrow it down to 2 or 3 candidates. chris makes a great point. a lot of us would love to get on the debate stage and challenge folks making sure the conversation is where it needs to be, what republicans are about, that limited government, local control, low taxes type fundamentals that gets independents excited. we've disenfranchised too many young people. everyone saying we need to thin out the field. we won't see a repeat of 16. >> bill: we'll put you down for tumultuous and

chris sununu had comments on cnn over the weekend. >> this has nothing to do with january 6th. folks still think it has something to do with january 6th. so i just think that not just the media but really a lot of the democrats have misplayed this in terms of building sympathy for the former president and it does drastically change the paradigm going into the 24 election. >> dana: he is contemplating whether he runs for election. you have some republicans saying this is wrong and it would be the first in history and what does this say to the rest of the world? we do a lot on democracy efforts around the world in order to make sure people understand it is okay to respect your opposition, you don't need to pursue them. this seems to be so contrary to that. what a way to make history. >> banana republic stuff if it's not a strong case come pilling and deserves to be brought. i wonder whether it will be fleeting. i've always thought once the first prosecutor crosses the rubicon you have the fulton county prosecutor and you have the special counsel who is working on both the march l

>> francesca: it is interesting, chris sununu banned it on government devices, he says he doesn't wantsee a ban nationwide. he believes americans should have the choice as to whether or not they download it and he asked how it would be when you have more than 100 million people who download it on their phone, how it would be enforcible and one thing the biden administration is looking at, saying you have to disinvest. bite dance have to no longer be involved and chinese owners would no longer be involved in it. here is the way that you would enforce this is to make tiktok sell. >> mike: michael, we tease 20 years after the iraq war, your thoughts 20 years later? >> michael: invasion of iraq was born from experience on 9/11. iraq didn't have anything to do with 9/11, but people realized al qaeda would use airplanes to kill thousands of americans, we realize, you know what, they would not be deterred from using chemical or biological weapons and what is most likely place they would get those? saddam was the supposition made, he was an international outlaw. i don't believe the iraqi invas

but there are other moderate potential candidates, chris sununu in new hampshire.can politician right now, the most popular governor, sununu, hogan, are less likely to win a republican primary right now. they poll in the single digits. and it's really amazing. because these are republican governors who have stratospheric popularity numbers. like approval ratings that i haven't seen anywhere else in the politics. but at the same time, it just shows, it's very difficult even with those governing records to get through a republican primary. >> yep. we're just in the early innings of all of this. i know we'll talk about it daniel strauss, have a great rest of your day. >> you, too. >>> a senate voted to scrap the rewrite of laws expected this week. democratic lawmakers are furious about president biden's decision to back it assuming it pass, brian todd has more. >> mr. president, what do you plan do do on the d.c. crime bill, we understand you will not veto. >> reporter: president biden caught between wanting to be seen as tough on crime and wanting to support washingt

ohio representative mike turner, connecticut representative jim heins, and new hampshire governor chris sununu hope you stick right here and tune into "meet the press" at 8:00 a.m. after this news cast. >>> coming up in about 30 minutes from now, we'll talk to nbc bay area political analyst larry gurston and look at one california county's big change when it comes to counting ballots. it's their solution to combat what they say is voter fraud. >>> another freight train derailed yesterday in ohio. this in springfield, and people living nearby have been told to shelter in place. the clark county emergency management agency made the request out of an abundance of caution. authorities say 20 train cars derailed, no hazardous materials were involved in this crash. norfolk southern says no one was injured. crews began cleanup operations overnight. fire crews say a hazardous materials team is at the scene. authorities say the shelter in place has since been lifted. no word on the cause of the derailment. >>> before you fly with your pet, the tsa is giving tips on how to travel with your four-legged f

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stuart: still on the election here, what is the governor of new hampshire, chris sununu what is he sayingut 2024? lauren: he says trump will not be the nominee in 2024. listen. >> he is not going to be the nominee. that is just not going to happen. so i think there is a lot of opportunity to bring forward what the republican party, not what we were, not yesterday's leadership or yesterday's story or crying about what happened in november of 22, but what will happen to bring to the table to get done tomorrow. that is what america is looking for. if the election were today, ron desantis would win in new hampshire. lauren: he said people are not on the fence with donald trump. he will not change peoples minds. one of the reasons he doesn't think trump will be the nominee in 24. that is his opinion. stuart: that is politics this monday morning. get back to the markets. you know i hate this. we have another week of fed watching. what are you expecting from the fed tomorrow and wednesday? >> well, good morning, stuart. expectations from the fed are that they will continue to raise rates like th

south carolina senator tim scott, south dakota governor kristi noem, and new hampshire governor chris sununuation for trump was on full display at cpac, where evie philips took a seat at a replica desk in the oval office. >> trumpers and desantis in 2028. >> reporter: colleen is from jacksonville, florida, she wore a desantis hit and sported a trump sticker. she said she is torn. >> i love this hat because it is, like, let us alone, you know, i love it. but as of right now i'm -- >> reporter: this gathering is always a chance for republicans and conservatives to size up their potential field of candidates. particularly when they're trying to win back the white house. but, pamela, this year's event is so much different. largely because it is focused on nostalgia and celebration of former president donald trump. of course, he arrives here tomorrow, trying to make the case that, yes, he's the past to the party but also the future of the party. the question, how far will he go after some of his potential rivals to start drawing distinctions between them, particularly the florida governor. that's

ambassador and governor nikki haley and vivek and chris sununu, and asa hutchinson, john bolton and morewho else do you think should follow his lead and bow out if they want to avoid the multi-car pile-up? >> far be it from me to take away anyone's ambition to be president. so i couldn't answer that, jake. however, i do think what hogan is doing is going to be a rarity. this year, i think you'll hear much more people like asa hutchinson who decide that voters do need a choice. but really, what he was saying in that interview, there is a lot of republicans that are really concerned about them knocking each other out and trump walking right through the doors of that nomination again. we'll have to see. >> all right. thank you to both of you. coming up next, protests to a construction site dubbed cop city in atlanta. and the series charges now facing those who police say were not there for the demonstrations, but were there for something else. stay with us. we'r're reinventing our networ. ♪ ♪ ♪ fast. reliable. perfectly orchestrated. the united states postal service. wayfair's got just what

we'll look for more on "meet the press" when chuck is joined by potentially republican candidate chris sununuwell as house intelligence committee chair mike turner of ohio and ranking member jim himes of connecticut. it has been nearly a year now since will smith's shocking slap of chris rock in front of millions of viewers at the academy awards. overnight rock gave his first extended response on his terms in a live netflix comedy special. nbc's janice mackey fryar has the highlights. >> reporter: a year after the slap heard around the world comedian chris rock finally had his say to an audience of millions. >> you all know what happened to me getting smacked by sug smith. >> reporter: using his long-awaited special, selective outrage, streamed live on netflix to take big swings back at actor will smith. >> and people like, did it hurt? it still hurts! i have summertime ringing in my ear. >> reporter: the slap, as you'll recall, when rock made a joke at last year's oscars about jada pinkett smith's appearance. >> will smith just smacked the [ bleep ] out of me. smith made a public apology. >>

now, in addition to governor desantis, nikki haley and chris sununu, also expected to be in iowa this week. reporting from washington, nbc news. >> so far away and so close at the same time. thank you, drew. >> such a busy time. >>> students at one santa rosa high school will return back to class this morning for the first time since a deadly stabbing during a confrontation last week. it happened last wednesday at montgomery high school. investigators say it started as a dispute involving three boys, two of whom followed a freshman into an art class. that's where the freshman allegedly pulled out a knife and stabbed the other two. the school will have police and more security on hand today. there's also talk about a student walkout. "today in the bay's" pete suratos will have the full story in our next half hour. >>> on nbc bay area, witnesses talking about a weekend shooting outside a south bay golfing venue. it happened saturday night in the top golf parking lot in san jose. witnesses say a woman was shot in the leg and police will only say the victim is expected to recover. preston

president mike pence, south carolina senator tim scott, south dakota governor kristi noem and chris sununuhillips took a seat at a replica resolute desk. >> trump first and then desantis, let's do that in '28. >> reporter: colleen hoffman is from jacksonville, florida and wore a desantis hat even as she sported a trump sticker. she's torn but believes trump is the stronger choice for 2024. >> i love this hat because it's like let us alone. i love it but as of right now i'm going to vote for donald trump. >> reporter: at the early stage it's hardly a two-man contest. an ohio businessman jumped into the race and he made clear on the cpac stage. >> when we rally behind the cry to make america great again, we did not just hunger for a single man, we hungered for the unapologetic pursuit of excellence. that is what it means to be an american. >> reporter: yet even as the republican field grows, the conversations at cpac and comparisons between candidates always came back to trump. >> i think governor desantis is wonderful. i think he's amazing. i just don't think it's time quite yet. if he coul

the one governor does, chris sununu, new hampshire is now a border state and the governor joins us nowo have to build a wall on the northern border, governor? we hope not there are tools in place to actually secure the border. but you are absolutely right. the northern sector has seen 80. it's real. we actually had a mexican migrant die. i think they dom vermont and died. it is dangerous as well. we are just want to help. we want to be there. we want whether it's returning the grant program. the operation stone garden program. i'm asking secretary mayorkas for an ice delegation agreement, which basically says, look, we don't want your money, just let us help you do the job on the border. empower my sheriffs to make. >> jesse: let us help you. so, i don't think he is going to grant that. >> we can do it. >> jesse: but is he not going to grant that and you know better than anybody. how are they getting to canada? who is paying for them to fly montreal and why don't they stay in montreal? i heard it's beautiful. the cuisine is lovely. >> so, canada has some international agreements with s

now, in addition to desantis, hickey haley and new hampshire governor chris sununu also planning to be in iowa this week. back to you. >> off to the races already, drew. thank you. >>> it is 6:08 right now. let's take a live look outside peeking over the bay bridge. it looks different since the light installation is dark. beautiful weather out there. beautiful right now. >>> it looks good for many spots as you'retieady to head out. this is a look at oakland where it's mostly cloudy. there's a winter weather advisory for the north bay mountains and hills and also showers continuing off and on. there may also be some hail and thunderstorms, kind of like what we saw yesterday in a few spots. later this week we'll be turning our attention to warmer weather, rain and wind. let's get a look at stormranger. showers are moving through the north bay, snow farther to the north and we're seeing rain move back into san francisco, the peninsula as well. as it moves toward napa county, moving toward fairfield, solano county, we're going to see wetter roads for your commute in the next hour or so. on

former vice president mike pence, south carolina senator tim scott, and new hampshire governor chris sununu opted to attend a private retreat with donors hosted by the conservative organization club for growth. the group has publicly to ties with trump and didn't even bother to invite him to his event this weekend, which is, you know, being held just a few miles down the road. from mar-a-lago. joining me now is nbc's vaughn hillyard, standing but at the cpac event, the brave van halen. he's been there for the last few days. vaughn. they for. cpac. what's the latest, my friend? >> and still day is the big one. donald trump, michael, will be taking the stage here to cap it off here. later on this evening, but when you look at the lineup that has a tendency at cpac here, they are by and large allies of donald trump now. , yes, there's nikki haley, who of course was at one time in ally of donald trump, when serving as the u.n. ambassador during the trump administration, but she did walk into the arena here and she never named him by name, yet suggested that the folks here should look to a new g

former vice president mike pence, south carolina senator tim scott, and new hampshire governor chris sununu opted to attend a private retreat with donors hosted by the conservative organization club for growth. another group has publicly cut ties with trump, and didn't even invite him to its event this weekend. even though, the retrieves is in palm beach, just a few miles down the road from, you guessed it, mar-a-lago. joining me now is nbc's vaughn hillyard, the man with the plan, who is standing by at cpac right now. where he has been reporting from there for the last few days. so von, what is the vibe man? how are folks feeling about cpac? what's going on? >> michael, i was hoping that you are gonna calm and hang out here. we can actually walk the halls together, and have that experience on a united front. but alaska, you left me alone. >> yeah, i'm like holy water at that event. it's not happening. [laughter] >> you chose not to come to the rodeo my friend. but, nikki haley did. nikki haley, unlike mike pence, or rhonda santas, or kristen new, or glenn youngkin, chose to come here to wh

chris sununu, who's thinking about running.ump as, quote, f-ing crazy. which he has not taken back or said he was joking about. do you think he's going to run? >> actually, in a previous interview he told me that he didn't regret saying that, actually. like a lot of these other folks he seems to be teaking the step and gearing up to running. we'll see what happens. you asked about other republicans taking him on. in an interview over the weekend asa hutchinson told me that if trump is indicted he should drop out of the presidential race, that he sees it as a distraction and that with trump it will just abe circus. >> what do you think? is there any republican -- we do see a lot of pussyfooting around. after desantis came out more inter -- isolationist on ukraine. i'm generalizing. that's not what it was. but less enthusiastic about participation. and trump said he was basically copying him. nikki haley weighed in to say trump's right. >> we're kind of at the juvenile stage of this. but you had mike pence speaking to the gridiro

. >> let's take a look with, you susan, into what new hampshire republican governor chris sununu saidress today. take a listen. >> i think he's going, to run. obviously he's on the. rice he's not gonna be the nominee, that's just not going to happen. so i think there is a lot of opportunity to re-inform what the republican party, not widely war, not yesterday's leadership for yesterday's story or crying about what happened in november of 22, but what we are going to bring to the table and get done tomorrow. that is what america is looking for. >> how is he social, or susan? after seeing this weekend cpac contest, -- do you sense this is a party that is ready to move? on what lies ahead for republicans who want to challenge trump? >> 62% of cpac in the stroll it is a horrible result for donald trump. i, mean this has been dubbed cpac. this is donald trump's show, and you can only get 62% of his own people. that is not to say is power over the party is there. i read something very interesting in i believe it was political or axios over the weekend. donald trump met with the state republ

. >> assuming there isn't anybody that comes out, a centrist candidate, a chris sununu.d trump? >> look, you know, we're going to find that out. we're going to see that. one thing that desantis has that trump doesn't is he doesn't have the baggage of these investigations. he doesn't have the baggage of the sort of exhaustion factor that a lot of americans have with trump, and he's younger. he's going to have the generational argument to make if he's going to be the nominee. he's hatch of biden's age. that gives anymore something to run on that makes a challenge for biden to counter if it's not trump. that doesn't mean he won't win. we don't know, he's going to be tested in the republican primary. he had a good strong win in florida, 19 points, can't take that away from them. he's never been tested on the national stage. we're going to see him go through a challenging state if he has to take on donald trump. >> we only have a minute left. what are you watching for as ron desantis looks like he's officially emerging as a candidate. >> his reception on the national stage, l

>> and i want to read something chris sununu said this week about desantis.et to know him. i don't know if they ever will. do you think ron desantis ever sat down for a cup of coffee for a reporter? no. it's like physically not in him. he can't do it. he doesn't have the social connection with folks. what do you make of it? right now he's the leading alternative to trump. he's not running yet, hasn't announced but -- >> in 2015, jeb bush and scott walker were the front-runners at this moment in the race in march of 2015. i don't think it much matters. i think what matters is how you perform, and ultimately he had his first moment for performance this week, and in my view, he failed miserably. >> on ukraine? >> on ukraine. look, a territorial dispute, jon, is when you get your property surveyed where your house is, and they say, your neighbor's fence is six inches into your property. that's a territorial dispute. not when you take tanks and artillery into a free country and try to take their land and their people by force. >> there's only two lanes in the repu

new hampshire governor, chri sununu says that brag is building sympathy for trump.or lindsey graham says, alvin bragg quote, has don more to help donald trump ge elected president than any single person in america today it might be the case in some circles, but does not mean alvin bragg should not follo the rule of law? alvin bragg shouldn't be dissuaded from fulfilling hi elected duties just because republicans might feel sorry for him but far worse than those takes is what mike pence said today, remember, when you hear this nothing has even happened at >> the fact that the manhattan da thinks that indicting president trump's his to priority i think it tells you everythin you didn't know about th radical left in this country it feels like politically-charged prosecutio here >> let's be clear here, th radical left, while, it's lazy shorthand almost as laz as woke. that means absolutely nothin nowadays republicans use it when they have nothing of substance to say. but what's bigger than that, i mike pence wants to call the situation politically-charged. despite not k

middle, where does he go there is going to be anti-trump candidates in the race like possibly a chris sununu anti-trump, i mean, much more trump ambivalent and if he can't get votes from them, you have to peel votes from trump the last thing i'll point out, he doesn't have an active presidential campaign. he is not an announced candidate. so when he gets in the back and forths with trump and nikki haley that suggests he's just trying to copy trump, he doesn't have a huge army of supporters that are able to get out there and stand up and speak for him or at least he's not interested in doing that. so that's going to be a challenge until ron desantis himself s himself declares for president. >> let's talk about personality. i want to read something that daily beast wrote, quote, the governor's vorgs to pressing the flesh and concern over the risk of unexpected interactions with the public is already so well known that early primary state players are working to desantis-proof events and his untested skills under the bright lights of a presidential campaign left operates to wouldn'ter if he is j

geoff: first up, new hampshire governor chris sununu.considering a run for the gop's presidential nomination, and i spoke with him earlier today about that and the future of the republican party. thanks for coming in. good to see you. you have said donald trump will not be the republican party's nominee in 2024. you said that is just not going to happen. how can you be so sure? >> he ain't going up. with the former president, as i said may times, thank you for your service. i think he did some very good things. he is a known commodity. there's very few americans that are on the fence about whether they would be with him or against him. people know where they are so he will have a tough time going up in the polls, if you will. the southern generation candidates out there, they will step forward. the race has not even started. we are in the mix. the average american family is not even thinking about this yet. they are not. th are just getting over the haover of november of 2022, glad they are not inundated with a lot of campaign ads, and f

chris sununu, a guy who's pro choice, rejected a redistricting plan put in place by his own party.steered clear of the gender wars. can, i guess, a traditional small tax, smaller government republican win the nomination right now. >> i mean, one could, right? if there's three or four of them, i'm not sure it's going to happen. i think desantis is kind of out there. he's probably going to run, and when he does, his message is going to be more about winning. in florida, i crushed it in florida. i'm a governor who does things, trump is a guy who lost three tiles, right? so we'll see if sununu tries to pick up the mantle of the more traditional conservatism that trump eclipsed. desantis is forging something new out of trumpist populism that isn't trump. i think we'll see the clash and how much this is about trump. >> nick, great to have you back. >>> kidnapping, the fbi working to find four americans taken at gunpoint moments after they crossed the border into mexico. their abduction is reigniting fears of organized crime just beyond the border. we'll head live to texas in a moment. >>

host: chris sununu on cnn state of the union on sunday. it was that same saturday posed by donald trump that, on supporters to protest. headlines from today's washington times. officials brace for unrest with possible trump indictment. the story showing some of the preparations and some of the possible demonstrations that could be happening. the demonstrators, the story notes, if they were to show up, would show up at the lower manhattan courthouse. signs of preparation visible being unloaded and erected. the story from the washington post today. your phone calls asking you what an indictment and arrest would mean for donald trump, if it would help or hurt the former president. indian trail north carolina, democrat, good morning. caller: good morning. i was thinking about it while i was listening to you talk and listening to sununu. i do not have any sympathy for trump and i do not hate trump. that is not the point. we have had so much trouble in this country, in january 6 i watched it -- and january 6, i watched it, i think the country ha