when we have more to provide from the department of defense we will. as secretary austen has stated the department is taking the issue of this unauthorized disclosure very seriously. we continue to work around the clock along with the inter-agency the intelligence community to better understand the scope, scale and impact of these leaks. just as we are limited in what we can say about the doj's ongoing investigation we will be also limited in what we can say about any of the documents themselves. while we certainly understand the media's interest in asking questions about the contents of these documents i will highlight as a matter of long-standing policy just because classified information may be posted online or elsewhere does not mean it has been declassified by a classification authority. those of you who are covering the pentagon for a long time know that we are just not going to discuss or confirm classified information due to the potential impact on national security as well as the safety and security of our personnel and those of our allies and

what does the us department of energy have to do with combating biological threats and carrying projects that have signs of dual use the russian ministry of defense believes that the us department of energy is on a par with the pentagon is the main organizer and direct participant in military biological activities only officially in 2023, the us department of energy allocated $ 105 million for research as part of the virtual biostorm research environment project, during which it is supposed to study the epidemic spread of diseases. i draw your attention to the fact that specialists still have a number of questions related to, to put it mildly, strange for most viruses, variability and geographic comedy variants, 19, for example, there beta first appeared in south africa and was identified in the uk in december 2020 there gama in brazil in january 2021 delta in india in june 2021, with each new variant having improved properties in terms of their military biological applications. causing more and more economic damage, despite the extremely, tough anti-covid measures, the appearance of sub options in 2022, where micron b5.2 and bf7 survived an aval

we know the department of justice independently took over this investigation, the department of defensed everybody to the department of justice. doj and the fbi have been silent about this, still not officially commenting but multiple sources telling us that activity certainly picked up in the last few hours when they got this 21-year-old in custody. >> sandra: all right, david. thank you very much. and while these are live pictures outside the scene of the arrest, i believe we have new aerial pictures as well that detail the moment the arrest was made when the guards man who specializes in intelligence was seen. fbi agents converged on the home of this person. according to the a.p., heavily armed tactical agents arrived and took the man, wearing a t-shirt and shorts into custody. outside of the property there. ok, so we are working on getting those aerial images for you. he was then walked out, bill, correct, to a heavily armed vehicle, it was presumed he was as the aerial footage shows them moving in one direction, you saw that earlier on the tape. >> bill: jennifer live from the pent

the department of defense is looking into this. they are leading an interagency effort here to review whatever national security implications might come out of all this and the department of justice is leading a criminal investigation. so we're taking this very, very seriously. there is no excuse for these kinds of documents to be in the public domain. they don't deserve to be in the public domain, they deserve to be protected. so we're going to get to the bottom of this and then if there's actions that need to be taken as we learn more about the extent of what happened here, we'll obviously take those. >> are there plans for president biden to speak with president zelinsky over the leak or is the white house offering any kind of reassurance to ukrainian officials about the safety of some of their most sensitive information. us officials have been in touch with relevant allies and -- mr. kirby: us officials have been in touch with relevant allies and partners over the last couple of days at very high levels. i'll leave it at that. >

once somebody has been vetted by the department of defense, works for them and has security clearance. there's a lot of things that they can do to discourage them from leaking, like raising the punishment and making it easy to find leakers, which in this case is probably his case. unfortunately for him. but they can't prevent somebody from doing it if they really want to. so no matter what system they've developed, it's not full proof. they still have to trust the people they hire. this is for us authorities, not only very embarrassing, it's also potentially very dangerous, right? this is being talked about as the most damaging weeks thins. possibly. edward snowden, though far, what is the fall out? been so far, the fall has been largely diplomatic, affected us relations with other countries. it's exposed south korean. israel, for example, being very hesitant to send weapons to ukraine and also expose the cranium in the military as being, having weaknesses where we did not really know they had weaknesses. also intending to strike deep into the heart of russia, which was suspected, but

i do accept the present -- premise that the apartment that has -- department of defense has lots of layers that are not focused on the big picture. what i can tell you, the leadership level department of defense we are focused on the big picture. taking care of people, specifically to the pact act. it is front and center for me. we absolute, we, first of all greatly applaud the pact act. the president rightly called you out specifically for the work you have done to bring that to light. again this is also part of what good journalism can do. getting actual policy changes in and then we can act on those policy changes. are there sources of resistance at times to any change to the policy change in particular? absolutely, that is part of my job, trying to work through that and push to change down into the system. jon: sure and that is not to suggest there is something incredibly -- even for instance, we saw something today with the white house released a report on the afghanistan withdrawal them -- drawdown. they have a narrative they would like. it is an administrative -- administration line

we disagree on department of defense policies. but al of us -- but all of us should be able to agree that a blockade of the promotion of every single senior member of our nation's military creates unacceptable risks to our national security, and it needs to stop right now. in a moment i'll be asking the senate to confirm calendar number 94. collectively these 37 nominees in calendar number 94 have served in the army for nearly a thousand years. this list includes a commanding officer stationed in south korea. the head of plans for central command and the deputy chief of staff in the fight against isis. the list also includes the deputy provost martial general for the office of the provest martial general which is responsible for all, all of the army's policing functions. there's also a graduate of auburn university where the senator from alabama was once head coach. and i'm sure that this servicemember never expected that these promotion would be blocked by the senator from alabama. mr. president, i renew my request with respect to

official to comment at this time certainly when we have more to provide from the department of defense, we will in the meantime, as secretary austin has stated, the department is taking the issue of this unauthorized disclosure very seriously we continue to work around the clock along with the inner agency and the intelligence community to better understand the scope, scale and impact of these leaks. and just as we're limited in what we can say about the d. o.j.'s ongoing investigation, we'll be also very limited in what we can say about any of the documents themselves and while we certainly understand the media's interest in asking questions about the contents of these documents, i will highlight that as a matter of long standing policy, just because classified information may be posted online or elsewhere does not mean it has been declassified by a classification authority and those of you who have been covering the pentagon for a long time know that we're just not going to discuss or confirm classified information due to the potential impact on national security as well as the safet

it's a common practice throughout the government particularly i would say in the department of defense in my experience, that something we do all of the time. so folks saying we need to cut the dod, that's a possibility. if we are honest with ourselves that this requires people that are dealing with our money in the department of defense be good stewards of taxpayer money. if you do not need it, you need to be willing to give it up. what i'm trying to say is there's a lot of different ways that this can be done to impact the deficit and the amount the government spends it is not just as much negotiations but it's in the way we practice our fiscal responsibilities with taxpayer money. host: you mentioned the history of the debt ceiling fight. alan writes today in the wall street journal,

defense programs. the current state of the indurial base and the opportunities to modernize. with the departmentf defense. this is just over an hour. st: we are discussing a interesting topic that is front of line for the industrial base. for me to weigh in on industrial base issues. most people that are weighing in are not necessarily eert but it has become a topic partly sed on the war in ukraine, stockpiles, and we really appreciate a focus on this. as a reminder to those who want to ask questions, dr. cook has an ipad on her. so go online, and please ask your questions on the website. and she can bulldoze up. for tse in the room,se the qr code at your tle and she will be able to pull those up as well. that, again, we shift to the dustrial base and i hand this over to the head of our defense industrial initiatives group. host: we have had a very teresting day so far talking about many of the challens that are being fed by ukraine, europe, and the point of is panel is to move to the next st beyond understanding the challenge to implementing change and finding solutions. we have three outstandi

this administration has failed and reversed our efforts to get a clean audit of the department of defensethe second question was john mccain tried -- there is a school of thought that the only way to transform the department of defense is through activation. and i think there are other parts of it. i ranted earlier about small companies and individuals are working in these companies and doing great work but they cannot get a leg up in the door. if you're responsible for a large contract. i am a contracting officer but right now -- if this whole thing goes wrong, guess what happens? i -- you do not get fired you're working for the government for heaven sakes. let's be honest. he will not get fired. but you will not have opportunities. you will go to a prime where you know. your boss comes in and says the contract went 123% over. i will not give a name but one of the major primes. you will never get in trouble for that. but if you do side -- decide to with with a company that does not scale correctly get in a lot of trouble. mccain was right for taking the structure for contract officers. t

it impacts the department of defense obviously. as you gentleman no the army is dependent vertical aspect. 20 years of the global war on terror the age 60 and the ch-47 have been maxed out. is it necessitates we to have a new article -- in december the army selected bell helicopters to fill the army's requirement for long-range assault aircraft and the award has been protested and we are making a geo-a decision sometime this week. i was going to ask you have you reviewed the contract used in this case and are you confident the army used a justifiable methodology to make its selection and his army doing everything in its power to defend its decision on its contract award before the gao? >> is a matter of course i do not review contracts. i did that as the it is a chairman i'm an operational role so i don't but i will circle back after enlisting the folks who do that but i do know to protest so i don't want to make any public comments. future vertical lift is one of the key six prayer does we talked about earlier in strategic man. i u

nakasone: it is under the purview of the department of defense right now. what we add is the cyber security piece of what gets done. this is a broader element of command and control and the ability to fuse intelligence and operations that extends even beyond u.s. cyber command. we have a significant role in ensuring what we develop as a department is secure and able to function in the future. >> does it seem like redundancy, does it seem like if it was split or together that it would be more effective and efficient in your opinion? gen. nakasone: i think as we move forward, as we move from design to the operational piece, the question is where does it reside. right now in the design phase i think it's appropriate within the department of defense and the office of secretary of defense and the joint staff as they move this forward. >> so migration would be beneficial in the future? gen. nakasone: i think so. as we develop war games, blue flag and the training center, we will have a better idea of where it needs to reside in the future. >> can you tell me how m

when it comes to intelligence collection within the department of defense that's focused primarily in an internationally i'm not going to get into the specifics of where how and when we conduct our intelligence activities, but we're always looking at, um potential gaps, potential vulnerabilities, and that's something that will just be ongoing work using technologies right now to spot potential leakers of future documents. um it's you're asking me a hypothetical basically again. we're always going to be on the lookout. we're always going to be on the lookout for any potential insider threats again. we get training on how to spot insider threats. but again as i mentioned to travis, you've locked your door. you've learnt some keys to your friends. if one of those friends decides to give the keys away, you know, hopefully you've been able to clue in on those signals, so we'll continue monitoring lost on anyone in this room that this is all happening at the same time that deputy secretary hicks is conducting a review of the pentagon's classification practices and at times over classificati

the department of defense is looking into this. they are leading an interagency effort here to review whatever national security implications might come out of all this and the department of justice is leading a criminal investigation. so we're taking this very, very seriously. there is no excuse for these kinds of documents to be in the public domain. they don't deserve to be in the public domain, they deserve to be protected. so we're going to get to the bottom of this and then if there's actions that need to be taken as we learn more about the extent of what happened here, we'll obviously take those. >> are there plans for president biden to speak with president zelinsky over the leak or is the white house offering any kind of reassurance to ukrainian officials about the safety of some of their most sensitive information. us officials have been in touch with relevant allies and -- mr. kirby: us officials have been in touch with relevant allies and partners over the last couple of days at very high levels. i'll leave it at that. >

does the department of defense remain fully committed to the expeditious and save closure of the redhill facility? the department of defense remain fully committed and i personally remain fully committed. i just met with the team out in hawaii on this very topic here. we routinely get updates and i would agree with you that the admiral is doing a tremendous job and most importantly he's doing a lot of good things to keep the community informed in the delegation informed of what we are doing of what our requirements are. thank you so much for that. are you aware of any budgetary limitations on the defense department achieving the safe and expeditious utility enclosure at redhill? i've looked high and low for tonight don't believe so. i believe we have the adequate funding to achieve that goal but i don't want this budget to go past us is there any limitations whatsoever in that mission as well as the broader mission which is remediation and some risks as well. again thanks for your continued support in this area as well. i'm currently not aware of any obstacles in achieving our objectives

except the department of defense. as of november 2022 the defense department fails for ever audit. to account for more than half of its assets for it after 1600 audits comb to the $3.5 trillion in assets and liabilities were found the department could not account for about 61% of the assets according to the pentagon controller. is it reasonable for us to think that the ukrainian military could pass an audit in or when we cannot pass one in peace? >> first of all thank you congressman for the very compelling portrait of auditors. my folks will appreciate it. with regard to your question i'm really not in a position to comment on the ukrainians. but i will say on the american side redoing robust work over finances and particularly focus on the systems that are being used to account for the assistance ukraine. as i want to thank all the inspectors general for your work and yelled back. >> a gentleman used to chair recognizes mr. baird for five minutes. >> think you appreciated for it appreciate all witnesses being here. my first question goes to ms. angarella. a statement last month y

the department of defense did say that a lot of this is based on trust. if you do background checks and you gain trust in this person, once they access classified documents, there's not that much you can do to prevent them from taking this out. now of course, he had photos of this. he could have also just told people, so there is no full proof method. but if we're talking about the photos here, it's interesting how such a low ranking member was able to smuggle out photographs of printed documents. now of course, that's going to leave a paper trail if he was the one who printed it out at his workplace, there's printers will show will trace it back to him. but of course that's only after the fact that doesn't prevent him from leaking those documents. so there's lots to be investigated here, brent, and what about the fallout from all of this? i mean, is it possible right now to measure the fall out and possibly measure the damage that has been done to us intelligence gathering? that's the biggest question. all of this, every time there's a major leak like th

that is coming from the department of defense. >> thank you. ank you very much for asking the different departments to set out what it looks like in real terms of a pass this ask unanimous consent to insert into the record the department from interior detailing how they cuts would endanger our constituents. the 40% cut in the number of firefighters they employed to respond to the record number of wildfires. and it reverses the bipartisan efforts to build capacity in the workforce. as someone who is appreciative of the work consent to fight fires because we lost 543 square miles of forest and land was a scary and serious. i am also concerned. >> is a dental item one document or just want without objection. >> thank you. >> are just point out also with regards to this letter details the significant cuts for tribal funding. significant cuts for tribal funding we have indeed a problem. murdered and missing in dizziness women as we do not have enough law enforcement officers on the ground. so there is a sense the predators feel like there's an opport

between the fbi and the department of defense they are working to find out how these things got onlinest: you mentioned the ap got to look at 50 documents recently. the headline of your peace -- "leaked documents, a very serious risk to security says the pentagon." where might the biggest security risk be? guest: it could be all over the place. right now the most pressing concern is ukraine's spring offensive. there were a lot of documents about what equipment will get out there, the timeline on that equipment, assessment of battles that could be used by both sides to shift their approach to this critical spring offensive that might determine what shape ukraine is in and what demands it can make to end this war. host: how are the group craniums reacting? it seems they are the most affected are the most prominently mentioned in these documents. guest: the ukrainians and other countries who have been affected have taken a common line that it seems like some of these documents are fabricated, and that would give everyone enough wiggle room to back off a little bit, to try and take some of

a physical presence of over 4000 sites in 160 countries, the department of defense is off of the world's largest business. i expect the department to implement efficiency and identify cost saving measures in business measures. today, the d.o.d. requires too many antiquated systems. they cannot talk to each other. too many manual processes. these outdated systems and processes lead to unsuccessful financial audit. duplication of effort. a frustrated workforce for top talents difficult to maintain. and and and -- this year you are requesting 3500 additional people. why? the same department that about six generation fighters is running the second generation i.t. system. the resulting inefficiencies are eating into the departments ability to invest in the future. regardless of the challenges we are facing, internally and externally, i will ensure that our service members, and their families, have the best quality of life we can afford. that they have the best equipment possible. if we do get into a fight, we win, they lose. that is it. before we hear from our witnesses i would like to recogn

atmosphere roughly coincides with the time indicated by nass as of wednesday , april 19, the department of defensects that the satellite will re-enter the atmosphere at approximately 20-50 et, 19. within plus or minus an hour, nasa and the department of defense will continue to monitor for re-entry and updating forecasts , we expect most of the spacecraft to burn up during the passage through the atmosphere. but it is expected that some components may break through it risk causing harm to anyone on earth is low, approximately 1:2.5 thousand. what was the general surprise when we were clarified that the fall of the spacecraft could not be seen on the territory of ukraine since the trajectory, its movement passes over south america, africa and asia well , the translation of the movement completely confused everyone, judging by it, the spacecraft did not fall, it is still in space and according to its trajectory moves from the pacific ocean. in the direction of south america, another riddle what kind of object is this this time it was visible on the territory of russia the author of this video claims

department of defense should deal with the challenge of u.s. developing tech with foreign partners seattle as he quantum technology, did we address export controls, reforms in our report? whitney: most companies understand where that redline is. may be greener companies might not understand, for example partnering with a singaporean university that also those china partners with. but i do not think in this globalized world you can claim ignorance anymore. that paradigm is shifting. the government is doing a good job trying to make as clear as possible what those red lines are. there is a lot of work to be done. there's lots of large companies that cannot trace their parts in capabilities pass for suppliers and that is a challenge. that is one of the challenges, his posse keeping up with tech? i've talked with someone and they said there's this new bio manufacturer of rubber and it might be helpful for testing and evaluating hypersonic. should be banned and selling it abroad? it is tough stuff. there is a gray area. it is something will work on

i went through the on the dish, the inspector general, the department of defense. as you're instructed to, this is fine by regulation, the u. s. government regulation. you are required to report fraud, waste, abuse, and criminality, and the inspector general the department of defense. if you're in the department fence, other departments have other inspected jobs. you're supposed to go through that? yeah, that's why we did. and, and we also went to the house intelligence committee, the staff, are there diane work that i knew? because i break there any number of times in, in an essay. and i went through her to report the, the unconstitutional unconstitutional violations of the, of the, an essay in violating the privacy rights of all us citizen, supposed everybody else in the world. so i mean, they switched from doing, from doing spying on, groups of people who are like militaries and smuggling drug smuggling groups or with terrorist groups, things like that. they went from doing that and to spying on individuals, everybody on the planet. so when they did that, i mean,

destroyed weapons production facilities belonging to the kamaz group , they opened it, so the us department of defense top-secret data on the state of the ukrainian army and plans.

whose job is to tell the stories of some of the great work that is done at the department of the state, department of defense to my left is adam howard, the director of the department of a state office of historians, which publishes the food series, the former relations in the united states. from 2012 until 2019, dr. howard served as the general editor of the four series. prior to that, he served from 2019 2012 as the chief of the middle east and asia efficient supervising the production of these two geographic regions. he's also an adjunct professor at george washington university and their history department, and he is a ph.d. for the university of florida. to his left is dr. john fox. fox has served as an fbi historian since 2003, and is also an adjunct instructor at the catholic university school department of politics. he's been there since 2019. he has a ph.d. in modern history for the university of new hampshire and a m a a political science in boston university. finally, on the end, dr. erin mahan. she is chief historian of the office of secretary of defense and director of the pentagon library. she

>> we had an open briefing with the department of defense yelled which the department of defense saidl 4th. there's evidence to believe that this was out there, again, "washington post" story, they did a lot of work, evidence to believe that this might have been out there in the wild for a couple of months before the department of defense learns about it in the first week of april. again, it's a little complicated. we don't really want intelligence agencies, maybe the military cycling across allover our social media and that stuff n a world of sophisticated technology, that shouldn't happen. >> how much does this raise the question, though, of the problem, the challenges, i guess is a better way to put it for cyber security and intelligence here in the united states to monitor that which is going on you remember first, there was a theory that this has come from a foreign operative. it didn't. it came from somebody in massachusetts. >> that's right. and yeah, we can talk about artificial intelligence and what technology will allow us to make it impossible to print out documents if you'

i am a government employee myself, i work in the department of defense. i went to -- went through what they call the sequester. they had no problem cutting my pay literally right off the knees by 20%. it wasn't a long time, but they cut it right off. and no one really had an issue with it. if we cut welfare for instance 1/10 of 1%, the democrats would've been out of their minds. they would have been apoplectic about cutting that small amount. but they cut me off 20% for that small timeframe luckily. however, i will also say this. we are dumping millions of people into our country and i guess that we need labor force to come in and do certain jobs but i don't feel these people are all gainfully employed. i do feel it's going to be a drain on our system and that has to be addressed somehow. host: john in new york, republican. what do you say on this debate? caller: i would say yes. the problem is spending cuts are always a matter of political necessity, but also practical applications. geldman sachs just did an analysis and they said the savings from ending

department u.s. of state. usaid, defense or treasury department. >> yes, to all for. which is the most difficult? >> state. >> what about usaid? >> they come in second. >> department of defense? >> well, they're not doing much in my world over there, so, they're obfuscation and delay is no more. they did. they were particularly big problem when we were doing about the collapse of the afghan military. >> obfuscation is a big word. i understand what it means, but chairman comer doesn't. could you explain that? [laughter] >> i'm from that area, too, so i think he understands it well. he's probably experienced it. they foot drag, they're foot dragging. >> that's what i figured. >> well, thank you. >> you know, robert gates, he's a former secretary of defense under president obama warned that biden had been wrong on nearly every, every dadgum major foreign policies issue for the last four decades. this afghanistan withdrawal to me is no exception. 7.2 billion in equipment sold or given to our enemies and end up probably killing americans in the future and our allies, hundreds if not thousands of afghan

of defense for nuclear and chemical biological defense deborah rosenblum. she is currently working on industrial based policy and has served in a variety of positions in the department of defense and spent seven years as vice president of the cohen group. i am also honored to welcome ellen lord, who served as undersecretary of defense in the previous administration, where she developed the innovative, adaptive acquisition framework. she currently serves as senior advisor to a wide variety of firms and institutions and is also vice chairman of the commission on planning, programming, budgeting, and execution reform. finally, we have bill lynn, who has had an extensive career in national security. while in government, he served two presidents and five secretaries of defense. we always like to point to people who began their careers at csis. he was here a number of decades ago before becoming comptroller of defense in 1997. he currently serves as chief executive officer of leonardo's. thank you for participating in this discussion. we are taking questions, but i have started with a couple of big picture questions. the first is a broad one. i would like to hear from all

our next guest and several of his colleagues decided to make a complaint to the department of defense inspector general, alleging that an essay was wasting millions and millions of dollars on trailblazer a system intended to analyze mass collection of data carried on communications networks, such as the internet bill biddy had been one of the inventors of an alternative system called thin thread, which was shelves when the more expensive and more intrusive trailblazer was chosen . when he was publicly critical of n. s a spying on american citizens after september 11th saying that trailblazer quote was better than anything that the k g b, the stuffy, or the gestapo, and s. s. ever had, unquote. he added that and say with all of its advanced technology, had failed to uncover the 911 plot. and he said an essay had collected but had not analyzed information that would have garnered timely attention. with the leaner and more focused thin thread. we're happy to have bill benny with us today. welcome to the show, bill. bill, you were a very senior, an essay officer when the september 11th at

it said that this operation was carried out by the department of defense and the department of defense alone. right now. several other nations are scrambling to try and get their citizens out of sudan, and it's run into some hiccups. for instance, a meeting point that was being used by turkey to gather citizens together had to be abandoned after explosions happened nearby. they told citizens not to go there because it was no longer safe. the swedish parliament just approved the use of military aircraft to pull out the citizens and diplomats out of sudan and spain, saying it has at least two military planes near sudan. finding waiting. citizens but for a lot of people who can't fly out of the country because they cartoon airport, the main airport is still contested. it was not clear to cnn who has control of it, it might be divided between the rapid support forces the sudanese armed forces. many people are joining convoys to go to the east of the country to ports, sudan and some are risking to do to be able to do that. in fact, the us embassy in khartoum has told us citizens know to do

of the armed services committee. he talks about his goals and priorities for the defense department. during his remarks senator reed highlight of the department shifted in the pacific region as well as china's growing military presence. hosted by the center for a new american security, this is about an hour. [inaudible conversations] >> good afternoon. thanks to her in person and a virtual audience for being here today. i'm dr. stacie pettyjohn the director of the defense program at the center for a new american security. i am honored to have with me here today senator jack reed the democrat from rhode island and the chairman of the senate armed services committee. before i turn the podium over to senator reed to offer if your to gog remarks, i'm going to a couple quick administrative notes. this is a public conversation pit is being recorded. it would be posted on her website after-the-fact. we are going to take questions from the in person audiencee virtual audience so if you want to submit a a question you cao so either on twitter using the hashtag cnas 2023 or you can use the chat

the department of defense admits in the affidavit they had the ability to track him.e the questions my kple will be having. we will be having hearings on this. from the 9/11 commission we learned that we needed to more widely disseminate classified information so people had actionable intelligence so they could piece together puzzles. we have gone too far. we have an incidence someone in massachusetts looking to documents with respect to war plans in ukraine and the department of defense knows and that's what our committee will be looking at, how do we make certain we make changes. >> to make those changes i want to ask you to clarify this because there are some conservatives saying things like tucker carlson has, your colleague marjorie taylor greene in defense of this individual, this 21-year-old man. she called him essentially heroic, white mail christian anti-war an enemy to the biden regime. she said he told the truth about troops being on the ground in ukraine and a lot more. >> first off, let's be clear, there are no u.s. troops on the ground in ukraine other t