today we have 35 men in guantanamo bay. including the mastermind of 9/11 and the mastermind of the attack on the uss cole. they are being prosecuted for their cop -- crimes and for of a military commission. in 2010, under president obama, deferred national security division attorney general led a review of the 240 detainees still at quintana mao at that time -- only a small portion could be prosecuted due to legal and evidentiary challenges. some were set for transfer to other countries and some work so dangerous that the task force recommended continued detention. president biden has committed to closing guantanamo by the end of his term. he is not the first president to attempt to do so, but as the task force report explains, simply prosecuting or transferring a detainee is not an option in every case. assistant attorney general olson is not here to say whether he has changed his conclusions about continued detention at guantanamo. there is no representative from the state department to say what countries will be able to

guantanamo bay detainees. then, deputy washington bureau chief for insider, dave levinthal, talks about a recent report on members of congress and financial conflicts of interest. "washington journal" is next. ♪ host: mark meadows served as donald trump's final white house chief of staff. though he has provided the house january 6 committee with thousands of documents on social media records, he rejected their subpoena to testify. late last night, the full house voted to hold mark meadows, one of its former members, in the contempt of congress. the measure now goes to the justice department for possible criminal consideration good morning. wednesday, december 15, 2021. welcome to "washington journal." we will spend this first hour talking about that boat last night and the contempt of congress citation and resolution passed by the house. your views at (202) 748-8001 for republicans. democrats, (202) 748-8000. for independents and others, (202) 748-8002. you can text (202) 748-8003, and tell us your name and wh

s. prison camp guantanamo after this month's decision by british courts to exonerate the u. s. justice system when it comes to wiki likes his julian assange. this program investigates the alleged torture of missouri dicey by the usa, the author of don't forget us here. lost and found at guantanamo was swept up by us linked warlords and the cia in afghanistan. 18 year old missouri became detainee 441, and was held at guantanamo for 14 years without charge you a discretion was advised to so may be disturbed by us treatment of prisoners discussed in this interview. and for a daffy joins me now. from belgrade in sylvia. man, so welcome to going under ground. i suppose we better stop given the, i know from my lawyers that people watch this show in guantanamo bay, torture camp, prison, whatever. it's called a 1st a message i suppose from you to the people still in there. yeah. first of all, thank you for how are you today and is the 2nd time actually actually are to you one of their favorites. you're not going to know because it's just the other side of the wall. and before i star

what was the role of female torture is at guantanamo premium. was use identities because as you know, what was the case, we came from a background that like our fi, our you know, and i think would bother you. i think we're here to and think well, well, bother you and they will do, you know, you know, giving us like, it isn't one of the things like, yes, anybody got even kind of a psychologist that once they get a famous inventor getters, you know, they, they they used to also serve naked, they used to show their press, you know, one of them, one of the, to get to, she was the, some of her pre a to blood and what is in the, one of the chinese space. and they also said a female, when for them they have sex in the room sometime that was to make it open to listen to change. like, would you like to be to heaven many, many stories and like, you know, some of the problem, i don't want to go about it still yet to legal issues might have been there, sexual her, us, or have been one of well they, they, they suddenly weaponized islam throwing the crohn's a

when you come in, when we are at guantanamo that is cross. what was there actually when we are right? the 1st woman, but they wouldn't do it and i was talking to them, what was going on here? we can do, and i think we can, we need a parcel right that. so after that, like months i finally was talking to them said guys, look what happened last year. they said, we have agreement with dana state. we are not allowed to talk anything to the media to anyone else. anything has to go to the media has to go 1st to the tag on i have to give us a position to look at a medium. went like the torso was happening, the hunger strike the mr thing ever was happening that i see. i see why there, but, and, and we know most of the things that we wrote like a letter to the i see, i see signed by around like 400 detainees. ask them to leave one in an official letter from a sick west. because when they, when doing their it just get like a chrissy. i remember one day i wasn't the 1st feeding. and then 5 as of like one of the i c r c a. what might sid, any guy, when i

let us know whether you think guantanamo bay will ever close. i mean, you must be in a city delegated and as you want to talk to, we stand together. we'll continue to stand together against russia. 80 in germany, repeat some of the areas that we doubtless made, say noticed videos as chunky dawson about their 1000000 influence. other nations, french, u. k. and even latin america and other countries in future than maybe beware to high rum cycle alone with members of your household. so please, please, please, please. we are to continue to fight. don't you just need to to do? russia must not be allowed in germany. i don't want y'all to common leave. it's so short. so the an lp, the innovation and the yes, actually indian 80 the innovation, mrs. gun simple son's. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have . it's crazy confrontation, let it be an arms race is on offense. very dramatic development. only personally and getting to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successfully, very critical of time. time to sit down and tal

let us know whether you think guantanamo bay will ever close. i mean, you must. it is so delicate and as you want to talk to, we stand together. we'll continue to stand together against russia. 80 in germany. repeat some of the errors that we doubtless made, say no to civilians as chunky daughter about their village influence other nations, france b, u. k and even latin america and other countries in ginger, there may be nowhere to hi, ron cycle alone with members of your household. so please, please, please, please. we are to continue to fight with you just need to to do. russia must not be allowed in germany. i don't want y'all to common leave. it's so short. so d in al t d enough ation the father the yes actually indian 80 the enough mrs. gun simple son's oil and gas manufacturing electricity, telecom dies for taishan. all of them now have io t type of infrastructure connected to the internet. so clearly realizing there's disruptive potentials that those countries can't ignore it because it threatens national security issue. but if we take the nato and e u cou

let us know whether you think guantanamo bay will ever close. aah! a join me every thursday on the alex salmon. sure. i'll be speaking together from the world of politics. sport, business. i'm sure business. i'll see you then. mm. i mean with the city delegated and as you want to talk to, we stand together. we'll continue to stand together against russia. 80 in germany, repeat some of the areas that we don, this may say no to civilians as chunky dawson. it's about their ability to influence other nations, french, u. k. and even latin america and other countries in future than maybe knew where to high from cycle alone with members of your household. so please, please, please, please. we're going to continue to fight. don't do anything. i just need to to do the russia must not be allowed in germany. i don't want y'all to common leave. it's so short. so didn't al, td innovation? the 5 and the yes actually ended outside the enough missiles guns until sunday. i with ah, clashes and violence in europe as government's tough restrictions to combat the new ra

let us know whether you think guantanamo bay will ever close. i mean, you must be in a city delegated, and as you want to talk to, we stand together, we'll continue to stand together against russia. 80 in germany, repeat some of the areas that we doubtless made. se, notice the videos as chunky daughters about their ability to influence other nations, france b, u. k. and even latin america and other countries in future than maybe know where to high from cycle alone with members of your household. so please, please, please, please. we are to continue to fight with donia. you just need to to do the russia must not be allowed in germany. i want you to call and leave it social out. so the, an outdated enough ation the 5 and the yes. ok to indian 80. the not mrs. guns until sunday, herman by dream shaped banks concur some of those with tears sink. ah, we dare to ask in orland gas manufacturing, electricity, telecom transportation, all of them now have t type of infrastructure connected to the internet. so clearly realizing there's disruptive potential

oh, so this is the handmade calendar that i made when i was in guantanamo. i thought that perhaps if i counted the days that it would be easier. but when the days turn it to weeks and months, and then 2 years, i realized that it was just futile. when i received such letters from my children who are very young at the time, it's actually made it worse to look at the calendar and start the count down the days my children growing up without me. and every day, without them, with a stab in the heart. and they would come sporadically, they had to be vetted uncensored by the us censorship. my daughter who was 6 at the time, wrote a poem, 12345. once i caught official life and they redacted that because they said that has numbers and a numbers could mean some sort of a code. so it was that kind of nonsensical reduction disconnecting from the idea of being a father. ironically and sadly, but also my own personal faith in my belief in god my reading the koran and again inexpensively becoming friends with several of the american soldiers who would bring me little snippe

by the time i got to guantanamo, i was begging to go to guantanamo because what i've seen and witness and background was so destructive to this day. i haven't, i can't sleep. oh i . several of us was sent to guantanamo including several taliban members who now heads of various departments in the government were tortured. we were stripped, we were beaten and was spat upon. we were humiliated photographs. this was taken during this period of time. they had a sound, a woman in the next room that led me to believe with my wife being tortured. they waved with a picture of my children in front of me and asked me where do you think they are now, what do you think happened to them the night you took your way? and of course, what they wanted me to do was try and confession that i was a member of al qaeda, which i was not. and this was, i'd say, stand it, i got it. i think i got it better than a lot of the other prisoners. ah, ah i oh, so this is kinda handmade calendar that i made when i was in guantanamo. i thought that perhaps if i counted the days that it will be easier. but when the days t

he was then held in guantanamo suspected of being a recruiter for al qaeda, which he's long denied. he tells us more in today's going underground, which has after this bulletin, except in the u. k. and ireland. a background that like or you know, and i think would bother you in think we're here to and think well, well, bother you and they will do, you know, you know, giving us like it isn't that one of the things like yes, anybody got even kind of just 40 with one of the to get to she was some, her pre, a, to blood a detainee face, and they thought the 2nd the detainees land, some of them get or smith. i'm came in with them. they have sex in the, in the room. sometime that was to make it open to live, entertain like, would you like to have in many, many stories and like, you know, some of the problem they don't want to go about it still get to legal issues like it had been there or they have been kind of low guards and those gone to the right and one time full pay and grades and thinking they are, you know, they would, they would also tell them this is the frontline, you're, you're

that was my number in guantanamo room in may. 2002. i was interrogated by the cia and the f b i and they threatened if i did not cooperate to send me either to egypt will to syria, to be further tortured. either you with us or you were the enemy. there is no in between. and that doctor is still stay on i think it's quite clear to me if the united states response to the terrible deaths of, of 911 was vengeance. the war on terror is not a police operation. it's a military operation. why they picked on me? it wasn't just me, they picked on every one. you know, who knows? if anybody is prepared to hand you over to a country to talk to you. i live is a pakistan is and to be override. and i'm my parents from pakistan on a deal national. they handed me over to the americans without any legal possible. ah, i was held there for a year in 2002 to 2003, and i saw 2 individuals beaten to death by american soldiers. these terrors play by a whole set of different rules. kids kind of force us than your words, the get mean dirty a master in order to t

now one thing they didn't find any money for is, is a field doesn't plane tickets to send guantanamo inmates home or to court. unfortunately, he section 1032 of the act continues to borrow the use of funds to transfer guantanamo bay detainees to the custody or effective control of certain foreign countries. and section 1033 of the act bars, the use of funds to transfer guantanamo bay. detainees into the united states, unless certain conditions are met. it would cost an estimated $7000000000.00 to vaccinate billions. those who still can't get the vaccine. one percent of america's military budget, just one percent, to potentially hold the development of new strains and variance of coven. but no gender advise us in the electric cars for the pentagon. that's the priority. okay, let's get some thoughts on this now. then live too often for her former vice chair of the u. s. libertarian party could have you on our tea this morning. it's a lonely, the world biggest military budget, and still it keeps growing. why is that? it's just vested interest. the more the pentagon spends on insanity, t

i interviewed him at the culture project after a play about guantÁnamo in 2004. 17 years later, guantanamoen and u.s. troops remain in iraq. when we come back, we will hear art bishop desmond tutu on palestine, war, the climate crisis, and more. stay with us. ♪♪ [music break] amy: "woza moya" by south african jazz musician herbie tsoaeli. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we continue to remember the life and legacy of south african archbishop desmond tutu. he died on sunday. his funeral will be held on new year's day. we turn now to an interview i did with him in november 2008. we spoke at the south african vice consul's apartment in new york. it is a pleasure to have you on democracy now! your response to the election of the first african-american president a son of an african , man from kenya? >> yippee! [laughter] no, "yippee" actually -- it captures something that is almost inevitable. it's very close to the kind of feelings we had on april the 27, 1994. and some, maybe a few people in this country, have said it was as it was with mand

s. prison camp guantanamo after this month's decision by british courts to exonerate the u. s. justice system. when it comes to wiki likes, his julian son. this program investigates the alleged torture of months were a dorothy by the usa, the author of don't forget us here. lost and found at guantanamo was swept up by us linked warlords, and the cia in afghanistan, 18 year old man, swore became detainee 441, and was held at guantanamo for 14 years without charge you a discretions advised to, so may be disturbed by us treatment of prisoners discussed in this interview ventura. daffy joins me now from belgrade in serbia, missouri. welcome to going under ground ice was we better start given the, i know from my lawyers that people watch this show in guantanamo bay, torture camp, prison, whatever. it's called. i 1st a message i suppose from you to the people still in there.

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sure became detainee 441, and was held at guantanamo for 14 years without charge you a discretion was advised to so may be disturbed by us treatment of prisoners discussed in this interview. ventura. daffy joins me now from bell grained in severe man. so welcome to going under ground, i suppose we better stop given the, i know from my lawyers that people watch this show in guantanamo bay, torture camp prison, whatever. it's called. i 1st a message i suppose from you to the people still in there. yeah. first of all, thank you for how are you today and is the 2nd time actually? i actually are to you one of their favorites. you're not going to know because it is the other side of the wall. and before i start, i would like to send the message to my brother at guantanamo to say to la bradshaw to hassan, too hot it to where i had everyone. i shall assume you will. he will leash and we haven't forgotten about you. i must have had without a bless you all.

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bay britons guantanamo bay. that's correct. as some people know as, and that's where also people convicted or suspected of murder or terrorism. serious terrorism charges have also been held there and continued to be held there. and during this period, the one working group on arbitrary detention passes opinion that julian sands was being arbitrarily detained. on the basis that there were multiple forces essentially compelled him to go there and prevented him from leaving. can you talk to us a little bit about how the u. k. authorities were cooperating with american officials to prosecute assigned, and were they doing it enthusiastically? were they under pressure it seems that they were from what we know quite enthusiastically, assisting the u. s. government, for example, when, according to various freedom of information releases, we've seen the e mails from the u. k. from british prosecutors to swedish prosecutors telling them as early as what 20122011 not to come to the u. k. to interview julian us on. so they

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sure became detainee 441, and was held at guantanamo for 14 years without charge you a discretion was advised to so may be disturbed by us treatment of prisoners discussed in this interview. ventura. daffy joins me now from belgrade in sylvia. man, so welcome to going under ground. i suppose we better stop given the, i know my law is that people watch this show in guantanamo bay, torture county prison, whatever. it's called a 1st a message i suppose from you to the people still in there. yeah. first of all, thank you for how are you today and is the 2nd time actually actually, are you one of the favorite channels going on because the other side of the world? and before i start, i would like to send them a message to my brother, a le bratia to everyone and shell as soon you will. he will leave and we haven't forgotten about you unless i hadn't, without a bless you all. and i any of those people, they're all welcome on the show to hopefully they get out of that hell hole soon, half your life destroyed. how did you even write such a book? so he, on the process of writing that book starte

unfortunately, he section 1032 of the act continues to borrow the use of funds to transfer guantanamo bay detainees to the custody or effective control of certain foreign countries. and section 1033 of the act bars, the use of funds to transfer guantanamo bay. detainees into the united states, unless certain conditions are met. it would cost an estimated $7000000000.00 to vaccinate billions. those who still can't get the vaccine. one percent of america's military budget, just one percent, to potentially hold the development of new strains and variance of coven. but no gender advise us in the electric cars for the pentagon. that's the priority. the more the pentagon spends on insanity, the more military contractors make money, isn't we're not at war with anybody. and why we need a military budget the, his bigger than the next over 10 nations combined. i mean that's, that's nonsense. now if you just ended that military, industrial compet just ended this massive military state and let people spend their own money as they see fit. you'd see people spending their money to help people far m

testified before the senate judiciary committee about the ongoing operation of the military prison at guantanamo bay. witnesses talked about legal rights for detainees, national security concerns, and closure for the families of the victims of 9/11. watch tonight at 9 p.m. eastern on c-span, online at c-span.org, or on c-span nw, our new video app -- c-span now, our new video app . >> c-span now. access top highlights. listen to c-span radio and discover new podcasts for free. download c-span now today. announcer: president biden this morning held a virtual meeting with some of the nation's governors to discuss covid-19. the chair of the national governors association, ava hutchinson, spoke to the group via videoconference. pres. biden: are you ready? >> we are ready. governors, can you hear me okay? welcome. mr. president, this is actually the 40th time we've convened this group of governors, and in addition, we're in constant one-on-one contact with the governors and their teams. pres. biden: more times than i've seen you. [laughter] >> their leadership on the ground, they are on the front lin

alex gibney a new film by tells the story of how treatment of guantÁnamo prisoners. >> in 2002, e begottencia -- abu zubaydah has never been charged with a crime. imprisoned in a secret cia unit called strawberry fields. amy: all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. a british court has ruled in favor of the u.s. government's appeal to extradite wikileaks founder julian assange to face criminal charges in the united states. a london district judge had previously ruled assange should not be extradited because he would likely die by suicide in a u.s. prison. u.k. judge timothy holroyde said he was satisfied with a pledge from the united states that assange would not be held in a maximum security prison in colorado. outside the court, supporters rallied for assange's release, warning his extradition would be a major blow to press freedom worldwide. we'll have the latest on assange's case after headlines. we will speak with one of his lawyers as well as his brother. this comes two days after secretary of state antony b

he was then held in guantanamo suspected of being a recruiter for al qaeda, which he's long denied. he tells us more in today's coming underground, which has off to this bulletin, but i mean, you can on, at this hour, you can also watch it at all t dot com a background that like, or, you know, and i think with other people here too. and think, well, well, bother you and they will do, you know, you know, giving us like it isn't that one of the things like anybody got even kind of just 40 with one of the forget to she was some her pre a, to plug a detainee face and they thought a didn't they have a sex in the room sometime that was to make it open to live. understand like, would you like to have in many, many stories and like, you know, some of the problem they don't want to come out if they could still get to legal issues like it had been there for us. they had been kind of low guards and those gone to the right and one time full pay and grades and thinking that they are, you know, they would, they would also tell them this is the frontline you are in a war zone here. and i got the g

one is guantanamo, which is representative of the way whether we do it guantanamo or the way we heldandard of how you imprison people. and there's the second issue, which is enhanced interrogation techniques or what we now know to be torture and its effectiveness. both of these have undermined these universal principles that you say that we subscribe to. >> that's correct. in the case of the torture program, this is something that cia kbarkd on with i must say a kind of profound lack of any sense of understanding of its own history. these techniques don't work. and there's nothing -- no intelligence was on contained through the enhanced interrogation of abu zubaydah that was not already obtained by an fbi agent who had interrogated abu zubaydah, according to tried and tested rapport-building techniques, which by the way, are legal. >> and that's the valid point here. in fact, we have testimony. we have the information that he got from abu zubaydah, and we know that to be more reliable than what was got from enhanced interrogation techniques, and to this day there are people who will

the coming year. despite objecting to a clause that essentially makes it impossible to shut down guantanamo bay prison. the $770000000000.00 u. s. defense bill includes a ban on funding or transferring detainees out of the facility, meaning that they will remain in legal limbo for the foresee future as part of our unheard voices project. we spoke to a man who spent 14 years inside gib, mo, may do old sla he his story inspired the award winning movie the more opinion with a star studded cast, including jodie foster as a defense lawyer and benedict cumber batch as a marine prosecutor. ah. and i did call 1st to crimes. i didn't because of torture. i was received by i was beaten till they broke my and i was not given food for a very long periods of time. i was sexually assaulted on multiple occasions, received a provision that for 70 days, no sleep. it's almost like a lie, but still with we have not concluded that it was the use of the i t's within that program that allowed us to obtain useful information from detainees. subjected to them, i know i didn't do anything and i said, i'm not there f