aisha, how much legal trouble is lindell and with this new lawsuit?'s about to go down, right? but it seems to me, you know, the insurrectionists, many of them have gotten more than a slap on the wrist, they've been held accountable for their actions. but there have not been enough people in the trump orbit have actually gone down for real crimes, in my humble opinion. while i am hopeful, because there's some real investigation that is happening, you know, and it's underway, it'll be interesting to see, you know, what happens to him. and what he has to account for in terms of fines or jail time or other, you know, or otherwise. so, we will watch it all play out. but i'm not holding my breath right now. >> jason, you know, look, people can dismiss lindell as a fringe not. but he does have trump's ears. as i mentioned, he's gotten shout outs at rallies. as you've seen, people do look up to him and respect what he's trying to do among the circles and at these events. are the people who are dismissing him and making these stay mistake they did when they t

they know who's working along with mike lindell.resenting lindell in the same way that i would represent a liberal democrat. for that i'm being highly criticized by people on the left. they say trump is different. you can't apply the constitution to him. they said that when they detained 110,000 japanese americans. this is different. this is said during mccarthyism. this is different. they said it during the vietnam war. this is different. the precedent lies around like a loaded gun, waiting to be picked up by an autocrat, waiting to e used on you and your family. >> tucker: i really appreciate it. alan dershowitz, thank you. >> tucker: when the fake duchess from los angeles and her dead husband told oprah that the royal family is racist. huh? what are you talking about? for doing that, the media said piers morgan was racism. when sharon osborne tried to defend him, the media accused her of racism too, that she was a bigot for asking how is piers morgan a racist, pointing out that the fake duchess is lying. in a show, she explains h

mike lindell put that together last august. and that was where he claimed that he would reveal this definitive, demonstrative proof that the 2020 election was stolen from donald trump. and of course, you know, like all of this, there it is all nonsense, there's no evidence. it's made up. lies lies, lies, lies. tina peters, though, is a really important figure. because she is not just another one of these obsessive coup plotting pro insurrection cranks. she is one of the few people in that world who had actual power overseeing actual elections. and according to court filings, she abuse that power. quote, devising and executing a deceptive scheme which was designed to influence public servants, breached security protocols, exceed permissible access to voting equipment, and set in motion the eventual distribution of confidential information to unauthorized people. prosecutors allege that in may of 2021, peters gave an unauthorized man access to the counties secure elections area, where voting equipment was stored. that man made co

what's not hard to believe, is that mike lindell is now paying a price for those efforts.at he is under federal investigation for identity theft hand, order to seize investigate a suspected computer, and a security breach in colorado. it comes just days after a federal judge allowed a defamation law to go against lindell against a voting company that he attacked regularly after the election. and while lindell is a joke to us here on the show, you can't forget that he has had an actual impact on election subversion efforts including the ex president of the united states. he helped sponsor bus tours to spread election lies across the country, he attended the january 6th rally that preceded the insurrection, and most notably after january 6th, he was pictured with documents going into the west wing that appeared to refer to martial law and the insurrection act. let's bring back our sunday neck panel to talk about this. jason, you have been to a lot of trump rallies warm mike lindell is literally seen as a superhero of sorts. how did he get this elevated status in the republic

lindell? >> jake, according to the subpoena, which lindell shared a copy of with us, it says they're investigating this computer tampering, voting machine tampering investigation part of a voting -- tampering investigation out of mesa county, colorado where tina peters was the county clerk there is facing state level charges. she's pleaded not guilty. she's allowing authorized people access to the voting machines to that county. according to the subpoena we've seen, what the federal grand jury says they're investigating is identity theft and intentional damage to a protected computer and this is now obviously a federal investigation looking at the same thing, things that the state authorities have been looking into, which is the idea the host of characters were trying to use this episode as a way to undermine the results. >> the justice deputy, your colleague and scary murray have more than 30 in the last week, is lindell's subpoena part of that or separate? >> this appears to be separate. it'

enter mike lindell, the my pillow ceo.te he could spreading the election lie. so he gets subpoenaed by the fbi for the contents of his phone at a hardee's drive through. this is related to a colorado elections clerk who is indicted for allegedly letting someone access those voting machines. but what does it tell you that the fbi is now involved in that aspect of mike lindell? >> mike lindell famously is involved in a meeting in january 2020 where he goes to the white house and says you should do the insurrection act. this is different. what the big thing is, they're making a federal case out of it. tina peters is a clerk in colorado who's under indictment and state charges of accessing the machine. basically she let people come in and take it over, and they were looking for evidence that these dominion machines, remember dominion that's suing lindell for $1.3 billion. that had somehow produced extra votes for biden. no evidence of this at all. but that's the overall effort. and the feds are coming in, there's a separate gr

mike lindell, he's been talking a lot about this.ared companies of the subpoena he received from the fbi. he told our team that what agents asked him, they approached him with questions about tina peter, the mesa county clerk who is facing charges for a scheme where she allegedly allowed an unauthorized z person to access voting machines. lindell says this happened yesterday afternoon when he was in minnesota at a drive-through at the fast food spot hardee's. here it is. >> cars pulled up to the front of us, to the side of us and behind us. i said, those are either bad guys or the fbi. well, it turns out they were the fbi. >> lindell said he actually thought the agents were approaching him related to the january 6th investigation. of course, victor and alison, we know it's in relation to this on going colorado probe into this possible election security issue with voting machines being breached in mesa county. guys -- >> jessica schneider, thank you. >>> let's talk more about these investigations. david aronberg is the state attorney

my pillow mike lindell. had a run-in with the feds yesterday, and, well, i'll let you hear it straight from the man himself. >> this afternoon i went down hunting in iowa for the early teal season with my friend this morning at 4:00 a.m. we got up, headed down to iowa. we were coming back. and we stopped to go through a hardee's in mankato, minnesota. and cars pulled up in front of us, to the side of us and behind us. and i said, um, those are either bad guys or the fbi. >> jimmy: yeah. or maybe you're in an episode of "mankato vice". we don't know. i have so many questions about this. was the fbi following him? or did they just say, you know what, eventually, he's going go to hardee's. we'll just wait here. i have an idea they followed him around for a few days and stopped him in the place that would make the funniest headline. h hardee's felt the need to weigh in, now that you know we exist, you should really try our pillowy biscuits. the fbi is reportedly looking into mike lindell's connection into a colo

but with lindell here, he is trying this, claiming his rights were violated. although, erica, it is important to remember here the justice department did get the warrant's approval from a judge whenever they went to seize his phone. what we know is under investigation is the possible breach of a voting machine here in colorado. serious things under investigation. >> i was going to say, not small potatoes. >>> for the first time ever, the u.s. preventative services task force, which is a group of physicians and health experts is recommending that adults be screened for anxiety. dr. sanjay gupta joins us now with that. this is a big deal. >> this is. we've heard about this before, they did this for depression back in 2016 and the guidance for this started a few years ago, 2018, for anxiety. clearly over the past couple of years there's been heightened concerns about the levels of anxiety in the american population. you'll find what they're recommending specifically, people between the ages of 19 and 64, kids and adolescents they made the recommendations earlier

but she's a close aal lie of mike lindell.ile we may know him as the mypillow guy, he's the show. almost every trump rally i have been to over the last year, been one of the prespeakers. he spoke at cpac and the rnc convention. he's at the forefront of who dth is. he was at the white house. >> he's also the one around whom legal extreme legal peril follows. it's some of the segments that we have aired here of lindell continuing to pedal the conspiracy theories about dominion that were shut down by some of those right wing autojout lets because of the billion-dollar lawsuits. he's facing a lot of legal exposure. >> that defamation lawsuit that's ongoing now, and potentially now the doj, he's helped contribute his own money to tina peters' defense fund. when i was with her this summer, we engaged in a conversation that was not in our reality here. i think it's important to understand these people are defiant. she's pleading not dplt. she was arraigned just two weeks ago. these are folks who remain committed to somehow proving th

please pull around." ( cheers and applause ) ♪ ♪ ♪ later on, lindell somehow got booked on lindell tv one f.b.i. agent in particular. >> then he goes, "well, i've got some bad news." and i go, okay, here it comes, right? he goes, "we're taking your cell phone-- we have a warrant for your cell phone." i go, "no." i said "my whole company, i run five companies off that." >> stephen: he runs everything off of his cellphone? is he selling pillows or meth? ( laughter and applause ) ( cheers and applause ) listening to him talk, it's hard to tell. ( applause ) in every appearance, lindell emphasized that he really needs his phone: >> it's disgusting. i don't have a computer. everything i do, off that phone, everything was on there. >> stephen: that's not a great defense, mike. "officer, you can't take my car! how will i get all these bodies to the river?" ( laughter ) there's also a chance-- that they-- ( applause ) "bodies to the river!" a little upsetting. there's also a chance the fascist-curious folks in congress could be swept up in this, because the d.o.j. is also seeking information

mike lindell, yes, he's the my pillow guy, right?the same time, he's not a side show here, he is very much a part of the show when it comes to donald trump. i've been at most of his rallies over the course of the year, mike lindell is almost every single rally consistently a free speaker and during the events leading up to donald trump's speeches and he is for all intents and purposes the celebrity at these events outside of donald trump. he makes frequent appearances not only on lindell tv, his own little right wing outlet and other right wing outlets, brightside broadcasts news and a feature of where donald trump and the republican party is today and we're talking about thousands, potentially millions of loyalists that see this guy as somebody who continues to propagate the 2020 election conspiracy theories and he is continually suggesting that donald trump could be reinstated over the course of 2022, 2023, and so this investigation clearly is extending and continues in parallel to these other investigations that the fbi and the d.

what mike lindell is claiming. >>> a new push for a national ban on abortion. the proposal from senator lindsey graham. >>> plus, gisele bundchen breaks her silence about her husband tom brady refusing to retire. >>> and later, forget a shoe shine. a whole new way to get a new bounce in your step. >>> good wednesday morning, everyone. we begin with history unfolding in london. queen elizabeth will leave buckingham palace for one final time today. >> her body westminster, and princes william and harry will be among those walking together behind her coffinliigurinngp toai 24rs tpathr >> the cover of tabloid shows a photo of the coffin's arrival at the palace last night with the headline, welcome home. >>> earlier in northern ireland this boy's reaction to meeting king charles and queen camilla shows just how personal these moments can be. look at this. he was stunned after shaking their hands. abc's ines de la cuetara joins us now from london. ines, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, andrew and rhiannon. the queen spending one final night at buckingham pala

mike lindell had his phone in colorado. >> he was picked up at a hardy's drive through.idence fast food may not be good for you. to get a search warrant you have to have probable cause that a crime occurred and evidence of the crime is on the phone. this involves him being in cahoots and a qanon worker. >> the timing of this, what do you make of? >> it all came 60 days before the mid-term election. that's when they turn down the volume of the investigation because they don't want to be seen as being political. there's a reason you had the subpoena blitz creek. >> because they wanted to get it all in before 60 days. i'll get to that. i think people often wonder this when a phone is taken by the fbi. whatever happened on january 6th and it is now. wouldn't mike lindell if he knew he was under the spotlight start deleting stuff months ago? >> yes, but they've got really good computer experts and they can get the delay tback. there's a lot of bad stuff that could be found on someone's phone. once the fbi gets it, it could be a free-for-all. mike lynn zell in a lot of trouble

the mypillow man, mike lindell is up to his mustache in trouble.ke's phone was seized by the fbi this week while he was pulling up to the drive-thru at hardee's in mankato, minnesota. the fbi came in. mike said he was on his way home from a duck hunting trip. which is hard to imagine. when you hunt ducks, don't you have to be quiet for a few minutes? [ laughter ] authorities are reportedly looking into mike's possible connection to election fraud that went down in colorado back in 2020. the news of mike's situation caught the attention of another election denier, rudy giuliani, who tweeted, "breaking news, the fbi seized mike lindell's phone! fight back by shopping "rudy" at mypillow.com to support." [ laughter ] "fight back by shopping." like a real housewife. [ laughter ] rudy giulini doesn't even use pillows, he sleeps upside down. [ laughter and applause are ] mike lindell was busy on his website today telling all about his fast food encounter with the feds. >> we got nine ducks, it was a good quick trip down to iowa. o our way back we got hung

lindell. ceo of my pillow, but also the reason he's come up in these cases, a very well-known and rich public ally and supporter of donald trump including in the big lie, the lies about the election, the lies about its results. the fbi stopped him, he said, and seized his phone. >> we were stopped to go through a hardee's in mankato where i was born in mankato, minnesota and cars pulled up in front of us, to the side of us and behind us and i said, uh, they are either bad guys or the fbi. well, they turned south. they were the fbi. >> there you have it. he's talking about what he went through and gives you a little bit of a clue into how law enforcement works. they know where he is, they choose a place where they think they can make the best possible contact and they take what they need to that they've had lawfully approved. he's a conspiracy theorist and had a front row seat in the trump white house. he says the feds there as you heard took the phone. this comes after they seized the phones o

if you don't like mike lindell, don't buy his pillows, but youll don't have to sic the fbi on him. but they were happy the fbi wase sick. dunnamy but alan dershowitz was a lifelong liberal democrat is an exception to this. dershowitz is done representing purely on principle phone.indell in his lawsuit against the department of justice. then he wrote an op ed for the wall street journal alan dershow explaining why he's doing this.t >> alan dershowitz is a harvardd law professor emeritus harvard and we're happy to have him join us today. >>professor an mr. schwartz, thh for coming on .ve so you've already taken on . i happen to know a lot of heat from people you've known your whole life. fellow liberals, for being associated with any one near trump. sinvited but you're doing this anyway.. why it's going to get you disinvited from parties. why are you doing this? i've always juste gone where the constitution points me. whoever the governmentd oppresses and violatesviolat con reports, i'll defend them. their constitutional, i'll defend them. i've defended communists and . i've defended

the incident, no laughing matter for lindell.indicate that the fbi. it's almost certainly broadening its. investigation into the gop's efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election. lindell is just one of around 40 trump associates to have recently received federal personas. -- according to the new york times. heavily involved in efforts to overturn the 2020 election. washington post reports that the doj is also looking into trump's fundraising for 2024. subpoenaing staffers who helped raise millions for his presidential super pac. all of this as prosecutors fight for access to trump's mar-a-lago stash. telling an appeals court that they need to keep investigating well the special master's outwork. joining me now, isaac gorman start. national political reporter for the washington post. lisa reuben, legal analyst for the rachel maddow show. lisa, formal -- calls a special master a red herring in the mar-a-lago castigation. i wonder what you make of this argument. this sense that whether or not there is a special master, this

mike lindell sells pillows, especially on this channel. why would the armed fbi agents being apprehended mike lindell? because he questioned the outcome of the last election, questioned the big lie, a threat to the system. that's the consensus view in washington now. this is a very big change. in a free society, by definition, all questions are allowed. you can't have a democracy unless you're allowed to discuss its mechanics. free speech is a prerequisite for a democratic system. obviously. and until very recently everyone in america unquestioningly understood that. dissent was not a crime. it was a patriotic act. people commit it, at scale, especially democrats. for years after the 2000 election, democrats claimed that george w. bush was not the legitimate president. some still say it. they may believe it. then the entire democratic party rejected the outcome of the presidential election. a foreign power got donald trump elected. democrats said that. they continue to say it every single day of donald trump's term. they impeached him over

. >>> hardee's is receiving a new plug from ceo of my pillow, mike lindell. >> mike lindell said fbihardee's drive-through in minnesota. in response hardee's responded, now that you know we exist you should try our pillowy biscuits. >>> a firefighter who answered a personal call. >> he managed to take care of his own emergency. taylor cruz was on duty when his pregnant wife called saying their baby daughter was on the way three weeks early. they couldn't make it to the hospital, so he helped deliver their lawyer on the hickenlooper. >> it sounds kind of weird, but i didn't have like an emotional connection of like this is my wife and i'm freaking out. it was just, hey, this is what we practice, and this is what we're doing. >> i think she wanted to make sure she was his first delivery. >> penelope dawn cruz was born three minutes after they pulled over. >>> and finally, a different kind of delivery. a food delivery by robot. >> it did not go according to plan. the robot from a food delivery service in hollywood ended up crashing a crime scene rolling right through the police tape. it

then, there is the foam pillow guy, mike lindell.s pillows don't already keep you up at night, his efforts to destroy democracy will. like other trump associates in the weeks since trump's loss and the 2020 election, he crossed the country spreading big lies and baseless election fraud, which set the stage for the queue. even after the insurrection of two nary six, he was photographed coming out of the white house, holding a stack of notes that when you zoom in, talk about martial law. like his pillow, was he in his anti-democratic claims are all plush, no substance. he said the fbi agent surrounded his car in a hard these drive-through, and then he seized his phone. here's why you shouldn't sleep on the story. election deniers will be on the ballots in 27 states this november. dozens of, them competing for top positions like secretary of state, attorney general, and governor in key battleground states like arizona, michigan, and pennsylvania, all of which play decisive roles in the account of the 2020 election. the outcome of this y

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some of those right-wing activists include people close to, you guessed it, mike lindell. peters' story is one example how election lies have trickled to local offices. as "the new york times" points out, this is not an isolated case. this episode is one of several instances where local officials and activists motivated by those theories have gained access to voting machines in hopes of proving the theories true. prosecutors in michigan and georgia are also investigating whether data was improperly copied from machines. the lie has taken over the entire party. as we've told you before, out of the 541 republicans running for major offices this year, 199 of them flat-out deny the legitimacy of the 2020 election. only 74 have actually fully accepted the results of a free and fair democratic election. and last night in new hampshire, one of those election deniers got one step closer to a seat in the united states senate. donball duke won the nomination to the chagrin of republicans, including the state's republican governor who endorsed his opponent. meanwhile, video has surfa

michael, let me ask you about another character in the trump orbit, that is mike lindell, the michael he says the fbi served him a subpoena and seized his phone while at a hardee's drive-through in minnesota. your reaction to that? >> i guess it puts hardee's back on the map -- -- [laughs] i actually saw a tweet about their morning biscuit. i'm actually looking forward to trying them, so i like lindell for giving the parties some publicity. >> do you think there's gonna be anything substantive coming out of what mike lindell might have known? >> i'm not sure. but what i do know is that, again, this is just more of the circus and the show that really turns off voters. it is why they voted for joe biden in 2020, it's why they dumped trump, that he surrounds himself with these, you know, assorted acts of characters. and people are fatigued by all of this. >> aren't we all? panel, stick around. we've got a lot more to discuss. ahead, biden has been riding a wave of good news all summer long. but can democrats keep that momentum going into the midterms? ♪ ♪ ♪ when they can enjoy the best?

however, trump ally mike lindell claims that fbi agents seized his cell phone and asked him about voting machines used in colorado's elections. >> he goes, we're taking your cell phone. we have a warrant for your cell phone. i go, no, i said my whole company, i run five companies off that, i don't have a computer, my hearing aids run off this. >> well, the d.o.j. is continuing the investigation into the plot, to overturn the 2020 election results. issuing around 40 subpoenas this week. for more, nbc justice and correspondent ken dilanian, the investigation into january 6th and the effort to subvert the january 20th election results seem to be accelerating. who may they be seeking for information and what do they signal they are looking for? >> from a wide array of very important people in former president donald trump's orbit, alex. the mike lindell question appears to be discrete because it is about an alleged breach of voting machines in colorado but it is all connected because it is essentially about the plot to overturn the 2020' election. that's what lindell has been espousing, the

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lindell says it may have been an illegal search. he wants to block the justice department from having access to his phone data which he says he uses for his business. they had obtained a warrant approved by a federal judge on the search according to the court records. >>> a writer who claims she was raped by former u.s. president donald trump plans to file a new lawsuit against him. lawyers for e. jean carroll says she intends to sue trump under new york state's adult survivor's act. it gives them one year window. she accuses trump of sexually assaulting her in the mid 1990s in a new york department store. the former president has repeatedly denied the claim. >>> now hurricane fiona has grown to a category 4 storm leaving the turks and caicos behind it as it churns further into the atlantic. on tuesday the storm ripped through the islands with sustained winds. residents are under a shelter in place order but so far thankfully no deaths or injuries have been reported. other islands at least five deaths have been listed. some power ha

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and that appears to be related to that -- mike lindell actually made a joke to evan perez when he wasng to him that he sort of hope that he was getting caught up in all the january 6th stuff. this does not appear to be related to that. but nonetheless, still a serious investigation about how allies of the former president were trying to get into these voting machines in various states, including colorado. >> did you say a hardee's? >> i said a hardee's. apparently he was at a hardee's and, that is where the fbi confronted him about getting to search his phone. >> [laughs] that is a very interesting detail. well the insider at the drive-through? >> i believe he was at the drive-through. >> sarah, this new development comes after the doj's subpoena swept up more than 30 people in trump's orbit. what do you know about this new round of subpoenas? >> that's right, we have been sort of digging into these subpoenas, digging into what folks are being asked for, and it's pretty clear as you run through the list of people, what the subpoenas actually say. the justice department just wants to s

lindel alleges it may have been an illegal search without having properly explained his rights.ne data, which he says he uses for his business, and other personal matters. the department of justice had obtained a warrant approved by a federal judge to perform the search according to the court record. >>> the final farewell to queen elizabeth drew global attention and an outpouring of support for the royal family. there has also been scrutiny aimed at prince andrew, as the world is reminded of his ties to jeffrey epstein. jake tapper has more. >> reporter: for some, in the uk, prince andrew's pain and loss of his mother, the queen, does not let him off the hook for his close friendship with jeffrey epstein, and alleged sexual assault of a teenage girl. the prince may prefer to stay mostly out of the limelight as he grieves the loss of his mother, queen elizabeth ii. but, public appearances are bringing renewed public scrutiny of his relationship with underage sex trafficker and pedophile jeffrey epstein, which has been immeasurably difficult for his victims. according to spencer

tomorrow, mike lindell will be suing the constitution of the united states. can't wait to see what these surprises are. "from now on, we're puttin' squirrels in all our pillows!" live. the main stage.vited to speak o- they stuck him on the parking lot stage. but this was some rally even without him. the venue was only about two-thirds full. but those who did show up, all these people, are reacting to what sounds like a qanon song. trump's people played at the rally. they're holding a single finger up. the finger means "one," which is their average iq, i think. it's also part of the lyrics to a q anut theme song. and 1 is part of the song. it would seem that trump has now fully embraced the lunacy because they're the only ones who still believe there's a conspiracy against him. things are getting very crazy out there. trump did 90 minutes of new material, which included a shout-out to one of his biggest, and i mean that literally, fans. >> gino defabio. gino defabio. gino, look at him. look how skinny he is. he lost 150 pounds. what's going on? how did you do

what did the subpoena for lindell's phone reveal?ce department is actually looking for information about at least seven people who were connected to this sort of effort to get information from a voting system in the colorado county. these people are considered subjects in this probe, but a number of them were also involved in efforts to get information from several other states. what we don't know is whether the justice department is looking at these efforts and these other states as well. of course, all of this is coming as we've seen the justice department's investigation into january 6th expand. we have new details on that tonight. just how much more information could mark meadows give investigators? >> that's the big question. will he cooperate? he was the intermediary for trump with the outside world in a lot of respects. so obviously, he is very valuable to prosecutors if they're really looking at trump. >> reporter: the question lingering after sources tell cnn the former white house chief of staff became the highest ranking t

we will -- very big day. -- and we want to hear what ed lindell has to say.ant to -- get your reaction and here it is. >> maga forces are determined to -- backwards to an america where there is no right to choose. no right to privacy. no right to contraception, no right to marry who you love. they promote authoritarian leaders, and they fan the flames of political violence. -- threat to our personal rights, to the pursuit of justice, to the rule of law, to the very soul of this country. they look at the mob that stormed the united states capitol on january 6th brutally attacking law enforcement, not as insurrectionists who placed a dagger at the throat of our democracy, but they look at them as patriots, and they see their maga failure to stop a peaceful transfer of power after the 2020 election, as preparation for the 2022 and 2024 elections. they tried everything last time to nullify the votes of 81 million people. >> scott, did i say the governor of pennsylvania -- or did i say [inaudible] >> i don't remember either. >> but he was the governor of pennsylva

. >>> mike lindell must face a defamation lawsuit that he falsely accused of rigging the election. a federal judge denied lindell's motion to dismiss the lawsuit operated by smartmatic which operated voting machines during the election. they say it was false that their machines were supporting president joe biden. >>> coming up on "morning joe," hurricane fiona has dumped more rain on puerto rico. one day after the storm ravaged the island, new yorking out power, and threatening the water supply. we'll go live to puerto rico for the latest. >>> also ahead, would legislation be enough to prevent another january 6th-style attempt to overturn an election? a live report on the proposal being considered in the house. >>> and our next guest responds to donald trump's big lie with their new book. it's got the title "the big truth." "morning joe" will be right back. it's the greatest sandwich roster ever assembled. next is the new great garlic. the tender rotisserie style chicken is sublime and the roasted garlic aioli adds a lovely pecan flavor. man, the second retirement really changed y

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lindell.pected. so they're definitely building a case and he is at the very least an important witness, most likely a subject of the investigation. >> are you surprised he was so nonchalant talking about how this went down? >> not surprised given who he is but my advice to a client in that situation would be to say nothing. hire a lawyer. exercise your right to remain silent and clearly mr. lindell is not doing ta. >> okay. this is just one of many investigations all related to 2020 election fraud lies or schemes. the january 6th house select committee met again yesterday to discuss how their investigation will proceed. they're targeting a hearing at the end of the month we're told, bennie thompson saying they need to meet or exceed previous hearings. what do you think they need to do? >> well, first they need to remind the american people of the ground they've covered. really the extraordinary evidence that has already been found by a federal judge of likely crimes by donald trump and others

when hone.e does, business on mike lindell is not a wanted criminal. he's not even a public official. mike lindell, as you likely know, sell s pillow's,especi especially on this channel. >> so why would the fbi armed fbi agents be apprehending mike lindellbein? because he questioned linde the outcome of the last beca. ,n he participated in the big lie.e he's a threat to the system. sht that is thone consensus view in washington. now, this is a very big change b in a free society by definition ,all questions are allowed. you can't have a democracyit unless you are allowed tos. discuss its mechanic s. cratic free speech is a prerequisite for a democratic system, obviously. >> and until very recently, everyone in america unquestioningly understood that dissent was not a crime. it was a patriotic act.it w espeand people committed it at scale, especially democrats. >> four years after the 2000 election, democrats claimedgeore that george w. bush wa ws not t the legitimate president . >> some still say it. presithey may believe it. it. and then in 2016, the

and mike lindell got a little piece of law yesterday. it's called the rule of law.ey find on that phone. >> it will be interesting. you have covered news, crime, you have covered these sort of investigations for a very long time. and when we start seeing the president's aids, some of the president's closest followers, people who worked for him, having their phones taken, you can't do that unless you have a probable cause that a crime has been committed. it seems that everything that donald trump has done over the past five years, specifically over the past two and a half years, finally as we say, the chickens are coming home to roost. it appears that everything is catching up with this guy all at once. >> you know, joe, my sense after talking to several people about this over the past couple weeks is that despite the coverage of of this ongoing story surrounding everything having to do with donald trump and the missing classified files at mar-a-lago and everything else surrounding that that despite the massive coverage, excellent coverage that both print and electro

rallies in the lindell fee bethlehem pennsylvania yesterday. he blasted his republican opponent.ting kind of personal. >> it has been this way for weeks now. fetterman spent the better part attacking doctor because. out of touch with pennsylvania voters and accuses awes of pandering before whatever audience is before him. >> in philly on monday, talking about he supports criminal justice reform, but then the very next day in a red county he is mocking it and making fun of it and dumbing it. he has no core. >> doctor awes this against fetterman's idea. he supports releasing some second-degree murder verse from prison. he also accuses fetterman of accusing saying 11 times on record he supports releasing one third of the states prisoners. awes is getting support from district attorney dave sunday. pennsylvania needs a u.s. senator that supports police and prosecutors. if citizens are unsafe, nothing else matters. he has my full support. he tweeted that fetterman would be a rubberstamp for president biden's reckless border policies it may not be biden or fetterman's top priority, but

doj issued 30 subpoenas on trump associates and seized the phones of his advisers, including mike lindellho sells pillows. the doj is going to save democracy by going after bath and bed products? what about the slippers. do you think they are not trying to intimidate you? you are wrong. we are now a police state. i could fill this entire monologue. this is serious. here is the latest example of blatant open police state tactics. this is the "new york post." facebook spied on private messages of americans who questions the american election. somebody at facebook red flagged the supposedly subversive messages and transmitted them to the domestic terrorism unit in washington, d.c. without a subpoena. private messaging. not public stuff. do you understand how dangerous this abuse of power is. facebook sent them according to the sources reporting without a subpoena to the domestic operationle -- domestic terrorism unit. we no longer live in a constitutional republic. this power grab has been going on for a long time. remember alex baron on. after his views western vindicated they allowed him b

and just last night, mypillow chief executive mike lindell said agents seized his cell phone and questionedounty colorado. joining us now with the latest is investigative correspondent tom winter. also with us is barbara mcquaid, a former u.s. attorney in michigan and law professor. she's also an msnbc legal analyst. so tom, what more did we learn from the unredacted portions of the search warrant? >> the first off we have better timing on when the justice department relayed to the fbi that there were video cameras at mar-a-lago and the fbi could reach out to the trump organization and get a copy of of those. the fbi says they were handed over a hard drive. i can't continue to tell you what happened next because it's all redacted. no in total, about nine paragraphs were unredacted yesterday. we knew to some degree the subpoenas existed, but they included new details including assertions made by an unnamed representative for trump who handed along a letter in early june to the fbi certifying that they had searched the entirety of their property for materials that might be relevant to a grand

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