so i'd like to commend chairman murkowski for her efforts to support our nation's energy security. this plan is a limited, responsible effort that can result in new jobs, a strong source of energy, and a boost to our economy -- all while being responsible stewards of alaska's environment. i look forward to the committee reporting this legislation next week as well. the senate has many important items before it. let's work together to get them done. fulfilling our commitments to the american people.

murkowski, all right. she's a k. on and on and on. they're actually starting to go radio silent. even ron johnson who was the stickler and susan collins of maine are finding wiggle room. trish: why do you think they're willing. >> because they want to get reelected. and even though this is an incredibly imperfect tax plan. i mean, this thing is complex, and it's a mess and there's a lot about it that you and i don't like. trish: yes. they could have done better. >> they could have done better. trish: if they don't get it through, then democrats come into office. >> at this point, it's about political survival. and, by the way, the flip side to republicans actually getting this through and stimulating the economy is democrats don't stand a chance if that happens. and the dems know it, and that's why they're not voting for this thing. trish: yeah. when we -- we look at it, though, -- do you actually -- do you think it will be a win for the market sales. >> oh, yeah. trish: 23,532. >> yeah. trish: if it happens, how does that change, basically, the multiple on earnings. >> what it e

murkowski is a big element.he challenge now is that republicans have to walk this tightrope of trying to win over collins from maine without losing these budget hawks you're talking about. so the republicans have to realize progress is better than perfection here and verifying out how to get this passed. >> all right, caylee, where do we stand now. >> i think that's well said. murkowski, it's a encouraging sign from her, we have to make sure to get collins and make sure to get the necessary 50 votes with, of course, vice president pence as the tiebreaker if needed. but it's important and encouraging this past thursday in the house and the same day it passed the senate finance committee. now the onus is on the senate to get the full votes. this is something all republicans should agree on and, by the way, democrats should come onboard with because i remember a day or reading about a day in the jfk days when democrats used to be for empowering the american people and taking a bet on the american people. no longer,

senator murkowski concerns, but not outright rejection. that matters. that means senate republicans they're gauging the proposal, trying to see what can move forward. but they're not getting any outright noes which means the door is open. you talk about the $338 billion, it's what they do with it that they think can persuade members come on board. making the child tax credit to $2,000, reducing middle income rates a little bit here and there. that's adding some kind of additions to the pass through rate important for small businesses. those are important things and they think that will help them get this across the finish line. >> and phil, while everybody is talking about the senate, let's not forget that the house is actually voting on its tax reform bill tomorrow. they feel pretty good about it inside the house gop leadership. >> let's put this in perspective. the house is about to pass a tax overhaul, something you used to not be able to get committees to even have hearings on these proposals let alone pass it. they feel very confident about their v

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some democrat, even if you look at lisa murkowski.u look at the history recently, she did get a ruling on anwr that she was going to be able to have drilling up there in alaska, which is what they wanted. it's hard to believe that that wasn't somehow connected to getting her on board with tax reform. if you are a democrat out there, is there something you could be given that would get you on board knowing democrats have so much strength right now to make this work? >> sure, i think that democrats have to be very, very careful about any negotiations they enter into. because the individual mandate, i keep going back to that because the democrats have suffered pretty significant losses within the party when it came to overhauling the healthcare structure in this country. we know they didn't get everything right. but one of the things we know is now is not the time to turn back on the people that they fought so hard for. they need to continue fighting for the individual mandate and allowing the republicans to do what they need to do to pu

struck that will allow drilling in the arctic reserve, that will win a yes from lisa murkowski. the others are noncommittal. that is what people are paying attention to but democrats are on the attack pointing out an analysis that shows taxes for people making less than $100,000 a year will go up within ten years. >> senators at home at the end of the week, the thanksgiving holiday. the majority from the house and the senate are going to be hashing out the differences in their two bills. they are looking to cut a backroom deal. when you are reaching for the cranberry sauce, republicans are going to be reaching for your pocketbooks to give handouts to multinational corporations. >> reporter: the goal the senate set for itself is to try to have a vote on the tax cuts and jobs act after the thanksgiving holiday. lauren: this is affecting the stock market. if you look at gains across the board, the biggest in september. the president of the advisory group joins us, happy friday. two things the stock market is telling us, selloffs are very short-lived. two days of selling and earning

murkowski's point we need to stabilize the markets. bipartisan bill, office clarified later friday despite some comments she made earlier in the day, contingent on her support for the tax bill. she's expressing a concern that some of her republican colleagues have. i would watch more the people, republican senators who are concerned about things like the deficit. that is the bob corker, jeff flake, reasonable ron johnson then secondarily, whether or not this includes changes to the individual mandate. there you lose susan collins, maybe lisa murkowski, if the thing happening too fast, you may lose john mccain who has been arguing thisth has to be done fairly to both sides because of last week's deliberation. >> can i jump in on the deficit. full agreement here. >> neither can the deficit. >> right. on point, we're going to pass this but going to be fiscally responsible because it's going to be only 1.5 trillion. budget director made clear to you in his comments that that is not the intention at all. the intention is to eventually make

following the committee, murkowski, the chair, spoke briefly with the press. this is just over three hours. >> good morning, everyone. the committee will come to order. before we begin this morning's markup, i'd like to extend a special welcome to some of the folks that are here this morning. they have come a long way. several of alaskans have flown down are the north slope to be with us recognizing that this is their home. i think it's important that they are here with us today. we welcome them. i'd also like to add, just a farewell at the same time that we acknowledge a welcome. i don't see angela -- here's over there. but angela becker editman who has been senator cantwell's staff director, i understand, is moving back to the west kocoast. and that this is perhaps your last day on the committee or last week on the committee. and i just -- i want to acknowledge the work that you have done. i think that, certainly, the staffs on our side have enjoyed the working relationship that we have had with you through some interesting and challenging issues and your le

lisa murkowski has a lot of things in this bill that are very important to alaska. oil drilling and that arctic national wildlife refuge, something they have been pushing for for decades, is in this bill. that is her provision. if this bill does not pass, that does not pass. she came out the other day and said getting rid of the in development -- individual mandate she supports. there were only three senators who voted no on the skinny repeal and she was one of them. john mccain has not said how he will vote yet. susan collins does not like the fact that it is in their bank. she just in there. she has not said if it will be a dealbreaker. she wants a middle-class tax break and property deduction for individuals. all of the senators are still in play. at this point, even though some senators have said they would vote against the current ill, every republican senate -- current bill, every republican senator is trying. of republican senators who voted yes on the skinny repeal, although they did not like it and were trying to give something to congress, this is a differ

people like lisa murkowski, not responding publicly.am, forgive me for interrupts, we do have the vice president at ceo conference in washington. >> honor to be here today the at 10th annual ceo council of the the "wall street journal" i know this is invigorateing event for all of you and i am humbled and honored to speak with you today. this is gathering of leaders of consequence. amazing to think that companies gathered here today represent $2.5 trillion in annual revenue and millions of jobs across the united states of america. we thank you for your leadership, your investment in america and belief for america's future. we know communities large and small across this country, depend on the companies represented here and decisions you make each and every day. business leaders, i'm grateful for the leadership you provide. i bring greetings from a businessman, turned president who is absolutely determined to make america's economy great again. i bring greetings from the 45th president of the united states. president donald trump. the pr

guys, talk about murkowski. she supports the individual mandate repeal.that mean as yes on this tax bill? >> absolutely a yes on the bill. there's a big provision somewhere in there that helps her in the arctic national wildlife refuge, too. so i think you put those two together, she'll be fine with it. >> is it going to pass? >> there are a potential three republican votes against it johnson, corker, flake. mccain? johnson says he's a no, and -- corker and -- >> a no last time and got him. >> got him because they changed -- he has a very specific thing he wants to change, which was this pass-through, corporate pass-through that privileges big business ober small business and maybe change that, but god know what's that does to the cost and how much money it costs how many money you save and all that. then you have both bob corker and jeff flake making noises that they don't like it and always john mccain in the background who could do just about anything. >> not regular order. >> a tax cut that will according to tax researchers and analysts, will raise th

alaska's senator lisa murkowski chairs the committee.inaudible conversations] >> good morning everyone. the committee will come to order. before we begin this mornings marked up i would like to send a special welcome to some of the folks that are here this morning, there come a long way. several alaskans

natural resources committee which would open up oil drilling, this is a big priority for senator murkowski. it's been a long time goal for republicans. this tax plan has this provision and it will go to the floor as one package. the tax is this. >> walk is for the the senate floor debate. >> we expect them to take up the tax package on wednesday. they'll start the debate clock up to 20 hours which could be yielded back. there were get into the voter rama, this amendment vote, free willing thing where they can offer things are tough issues. dealing with some of the more controversial aspects that could go late into the night on thursday ending with a final vote. >> it could be very different with what was on the u.s. house with changes likely had to the senate bill. your writing about the cq roll call. it reaches a tentative trigger deal and james of oklahoma is joined with senator bob corker. this would essentially call back some of the tax cuts as a dry deficit senator bob corker there to staunch hawks and their concern is that it could lose revenue as is projected to do. so it could and

i'm also grateful for chairman murkowski and members of the senate energy committee for reporting bipartisan legislation to secure our nation's energy future. by further exploring the responsible development of alaska's resources. this bill can help grow our economy, support high-paying jobs, and strengthen our national security. i look forward to promoting american energy independence through this legislation. now on another matter, today the senate will continue to fulfill its important responsibility of providing advice and consent on president trump's nominations. so far this week we have confirmed talented individuals to important positions in the departments of transportation, labor, and defense. yesterday the senate advanced the nomination of joseph otting to serve as comptroller of the currency. mr. otting's experience as a leader at various financial agencies has helped prepare him to serve in this new role. i look forward to voting to confirming him later today. next the senate will consider two well-qualified nominees to serve on the federal district courts, donald coggins and dab

powerful opinion by lisa murkowski.rt: news suggest that is she's probably a yet of tax-cutting the overall package. >> absolutely, she could bring susan collins and other people who are on the fence for the same reason. there's the other issue of the murray-alexander agreement you know what, we need to get the yes on the tax thing. yes on the senate. stuart: do you think it's a plus and plus on the market? >> i believe it is, stuart. i'm actually -- when i read that i was surprised that we weren't up stronger this morning because i think that's a pretty big deal to both liz and liz's point that this could provide some great cover for some other people to pull along with her and not seem like they're stepping out from their previous position. i think this goes well. stuart: got it. i have to say good-bye to dr and liz peek, both of you have a great thanksgiving. >> you too. stuart: thank you very much, indeed. >> thank you, stuart. stuart: we are down 12 points. i thought we would be opening higher than that. futures po

earlier, murkowski said she did taxes ando mix health care. researchers out of her lynn have found light pollution is increasing at at the rate of 2% a year. and he could be worse than that tests cannotsive pick up led light bulbs. global news, 24 hours a day, powered by more than 2700 journalists and analysts in over 120 countries. this is bloomberg. ♪ julia: live from bloomberg world headquarters in new york, i'm julia chatterley. scarlet: i'm scarlet fu. joe: i'm joe weisenthal. equity is little changed in the dollar adds to its losses. joe: the question is, "what'd you miss?" borish, we have peter the quite group chief strategist -- the quad group chief strategist joining us. murkowskiator lisa has agreed to kill the obamacare individual mandate. what does that do enough to pass the measure? issue guaranteed yes vote? and retailers pull out all the stops in an effort to survive. friday will be a make or break day for struggling brick and mortar chains. we have breaking news. broadcom is said to be considering a higher bid for qualcomm, acc

. >> murkowski too. charles: murkowski. >> and to your point, i'm not sure this will happen because it has. obamacare was going to die. i do agree with the individual mandate, and that's one thing that republicans have been on the defense little, and we should be absolutely going on the aggressive about this. because we're saving money, essentially funding a tax cut by not forcing people to buy insurance that they don't want and can't afford. these are undesirable things that are being on the american people coercively, and i am really skeptical of murkowski pushing this. charles: and, of course, you have everybody out there. you have small business units out there. you have folks saying, hey, by 2027, the middle class, everyone making less than $70,000 will actually have a tax hike. that's certainly not what was advertised. >> no. and right now, congress has a rare opportunity to pass historic tax reform of our burdensome tax code and everyone who cares about the burden on the american family and put mo

the committee is chaired by alaska senator lisa murkowski. this portion is about two and a half hours. >> good morning everyone. the committee will come to order. we meet this morning to consider opening a very small portion of alaska to responsible energy the $1ment, to meet billion budget reconciliation instruction our committee received last week. 1002 area covers 1.5 7 million acres of land in northeast alaska, within the non-wilderness portion. important tot is put this in context, in terms of the areas where talking about. war, itself, is 9 million acres, approximately the size of south carolina. the non-wilderness area, this 1002 area, is 1.5 million acres, approximately the size of delaware. the area here is designated as wilderness, federal wilderness, 8 million acres there. so, when we are talking about an important tot is recognize that there are parts r that are designated wilderness, parts are designated refuge, and parts have specifically been designated for consideration for oil and gas exploration. i want to be clear. the 1002

senator murkowski, congressman young and myself. the fundamental disconnect and discussion of the 1002 area is the debate has not kept up with alaska's high standards, the highest in the world, and i'll talk about that, and advancement in technology. with all due respect to the ranking member, a lot has changed. a lot changed. responsibly developing the 1002 area is a win, win, win for the country. it will create jobs and grow the economy, increase energy security for americans and very importantly, it will help protect the global environment and strengthen our national security. the last two points i would like to emphasize in my remarks this morning. m madam chair, alaska has the highest standards for arctic development than any place in the world. i was in charge as alaska's commissioner of the department of natural resources. it's no impact exploration or specific requirements related to our incredible species like the polar bear or caribou, mandating the best technology. we have a 50 year record of responsible resource developm

senator murkowski, congressman young and myself. the fundamental disconnect in the 1002 area is that the debate has not kept up with alaska's high standards, the highest in the world and i'll talk about that, in advancements to technology. so with all due respect a lot has changed. responsibly developing the 1002 area is a win, win, win for our country. create jobs, help grow the economy, increase energy security for americans and help protect the global environment and strengthen our national security. it's these last two points i would like to emphasize. as you know alaska has the highest environmental standards regarding responsible arctic resource development of any place in the world. i was in charge as the commissioner to department of natural resources and i can tell you whether it's what we call no impact exploration or specific requirements related to our incredible species like the polar bear or caribou or mandating the best available decknology. we have a 50-year record of responsible resource development in our state. no

murkowski for example, murkowski had a particular real interest and all alaskans have. is getting the interest met. >> that is the way the sausage is made. >> what did you think yesterday when there were empty chairs on next to trump? this is where pelosi should be sitting and schumer. lonely there in that room. >> whoever was in charge of the camera. you come all the way back, you see mcconnell. see it here. >> martha: sad and lonely. >> i don't know why the democrats would give trump a cheap, easy win to sit there and say i'm trying to solve this problem. i don't know why they won't even talk about it. it struck me as one of the dumbest things -- schumer is a smart guy. this is one of the dumbest things. >> they realize they had been set up for that pretty negative photo op on their part and they called it a stunt. quickly, in the big picture. are they going to push the funding bill? push to show down that might close the government for a while? >> nobody wants to talk about it yet but i'll go out on a limb. mcconnell could come in and say we will apply the same rule

murkowski: thanks, everybody. hey. >> how are you? [indiscernible] "washingtonwashingto withal," live every day issues that is vacuum. coming up this morning, the progressive change campaign committee's adam green discusses progressives and campaign 2018. then, the mercator center's oniel griswold employment-based immigration policies. then, the government on ability k once's charles jeszec saving for retirement. live at 7:00 a.m. eastern. join the discussion. the c-span bus is driving across the country on our 50 capital store. we recently stopped in austin, texas, asking full -- what is the most important thing in your state? >> in texas, i was hoping texas would get rid of unnecessary and burdensome occupational regulations. important issue is tax reform. we need to get that changed so the bestrican has opportunity possible. the most important issue facing texans in washington is transparency in government. i do not think there can be enough of it, and i do not think our leaders can never do enough transparent in terms of not only

and using lisa murkowski's successful write-in bid in become become as an example. >> why did they win totally well-known and extremely popular. and the name being most often discussed may not be available. but the alabamaen who would fit that standard would be the attorney general who is totally well-known and extremely popular in alabama. >> the cook political report now considers the race a toss job. and there seems to be dirty tricks happening in alabama, "the washington post" reporting allegations involving roy moore on teenage girls. listen to this voice message a pastor said he received. >> hi, this is bernie bernstein, i'm a reporter for "the washington post" calling to find out if anyone at this address is a female. between the ages of 54 to 57 years old willing to make damaging remarks about candidate roy moore for a reward of $5,000 or $7,000. >> not surprisingly, "the washington post" says the robocall is not real. and there's no relationship to reality. we're shocked and appalled that anyone would stoop to this level to discredit real journalism. >> that's troubling. and t

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keep an eye on flake, mccain, murkowski and corker. murkowski wanted something for a long time, drilling in the arctic reserve. that is part of this bill. there is deal struck behind closed doors here. in which case she is expected to be a yes. there is report came from jct. that the poorest americans will see taxes go up in 2021. anyone making under $100,000 a year will see their taxes go up by 2027. democrats are hitting that all day. ron wyden, ranking member on the senate finance committee, said this about tax reform and what the republicans are trying to do. >> senators head home at the end of the week for the thanksgiving holiday but majorities from the house and the senate are going to be hashing out the differences in their two bills. they're looking to cut a back-room deal. when you're reaching for the cranberry sauce, republicans are going to be reaching for your pocketbooks to give handouts to multinational corporations. reporter: so again, the effort to try to finish the work in the senate finance committee this evening. th

. >> you had moderate republicans, kiersten, murkowski among them, right, who couldn't get on board with these, the repeal of obamacare. they're now stuck. they have to make a choice. get rid of the individual mandate and save the money so they can get their tax cut through or say no, we can't do this. but will practicality win and they vote for? >> well, i just think they have introduced this wild card into tax reform whereas i don't see why they wouldn't be able to get most republicans to vote for tax reform if they were to put together a bill that they could find the savings some other way. certainly, they could find the savings by restructuring the way that they're doing the tax cuts, maybe not give as many tax cuts to very wealthy people or corporate -- in the corporate tax rate. there are other ways for them to do this. i think they're just entering this wild card in at the last moment where it could create problems with people who like the susan collins of of the world or lisa murkowskis of the world who don't want to just repeal obamacare which is if you get rid of the individual

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the committee's report also included chairman murkowski's plan to further develop alaska's oil and gas potential in an environmentally responsible way. her legislation, which has the support of her alaska colleague, senator sullivan, was designed to create good jobs, provide new sources of energy and strengthen our national security. now they will both advance to the senate floor. today the senate will take the next important step toward fixing the tax code and helping middle-class families keep more of their hard-earned money. members will vote to begin debate on this once in a generation opportunity to reform our tax code so it works for the middle class. i encourage any member who thinks we need to fix the problems of our outdated tax code to proceed to proceed to this legislation. anyone who thinks that rates are too high or loopholes are too prominent should vote to begin debate. and to members who have ideas about how to make the bill better, i would urge them to vote for the motion to proceed and offer their amendments. i believe my mandate from the people of kentucky is to vote

murkowski, who is a real pain on health care is making some noises that seem optimistic about certainments of the plan. >> if she says it, she'll -- >> we're not there yet in terms of a whip count. but the republicans have to recognize they need to get something done. there's a lot in this bill to really like. it's time to finally govern like a majority. >> but murkowski says that it seems like she'll be a "yes" if they repeal the individual mandate that that's her condition for the -- >> well, she's okay with the plan of getting rid of the individual mandate, as long as they pass something else like a stabilization package to basically bail out insurers because of the disruption that that would occur. if both of those are balanced out, she and possibly susan collins have indicated that they would get onboard for something like that. >> all politics is local, like personal relationships, but i want it, and i want it now. they all have these individual wants and needs, and i think it's disgusting to the american people, quite frankly. >> well, the other thing -- so let's say there's a

murkowski, that's a break through for them. that's a psychiatric logical advance. since she's one of the people who voted down obamacare before. but you still have significant problems over the distribution of benefits in the bill, over the cost of the bill, .over estimates suggesting that it's not going to produce nearly as much economic growth as the administration is claiming. >> in fact, could cost as much as $2.2 billion. i want to ask you about uber. this was a rampan cover-up. basically, the former ceo, they paid off these hackers $100,000 to remain silent. so how do we know that the hacker's representations are correct, that all these data have not been kept? >> we don't know. and it's pretty clear you can't trust uber's word on it. but it was not only covering up the theft of the data, but it was also covering up this payoff to criminal elements who hacked this information. as one of the analysts said this morning, this is paying off organized crime in order to conceal what happened to your company. and that's a concern for every company and every consumer

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this is a big priority for senator lisa murkowski. it has been a longtime goal for a lot of republicans. essentially, this tax plan has this oil drilling provision in it now and it will go to the floor as one package. are obviouslys the centerpiece of the plan. >>

susan collins has expressed concern, lisa murkowski has expressed concern. is that a bargaining chip? if you are finding that is costing more residents getting a new then you would support taking is mended out not wax let me first say this is all about getting this passed in the senate. this is not a bargaining chip. the present things we should get rid of it, i think we should get rid of it. it is an unfair tech support people. to think you put a penalty on people who cannot afford to buy medical policies, is just fundamentally unfair. that's what this is all about. >> it does have a political impact. it wasn't in your original proposal for tax reform.it has been added in afterwards. i guess i'm asking can you live with this if it was taken out? >> i think right now the objective is to keep it in. it provides a big tax cut for the middle class. it gets rid of the penalty. but we will work with the senate as we go through this. what's critical is we have the house passed the bill, it's a very big deal. we got it done. we got out of the finance committee. it

senator murkowski, you gave comments at the symposium. and senator king said something very insightful to me as a scientist. he said we can't make good policy without good data. and then he said, give us the science in a way we can understand and absorb, and nothing could be more important. so, i understand that as nonscientists, you need scientists to tell you things in a way you can understand. there's two problems. one is the science, the literature is very large. and the other is separating the actual data and science from interpretation. and that's our job as scientists is to clearly differentiate those. i feel it's my duty to inform all of congress and all the american people of the science, and then policy will come from that. science doesn't make policy, it informs policy. and that was a major point of senator king's comments at that symposium that i really appreciated. with regard to caribou in the oil fields, as many references in my written testimony and within the references many references, i'll hit on a few key points. first

>> listen, we were never -- always going to be tough to get collins and murkowski. that seems to be the issue. at the end of the day we have senators who want to vote for this and if we can get both of these items with one kill shot per se that will be a good thing for the republican party, good thing for the base, america and the president. >> do you think that -- do you think this, the individual mandate inclusion, i mean, i've heard from a lot of republicans with various things, one, it could be a real problem, why are we muddying this up, but still, i'm not necessarily going to be a no because i care so much about taxes? >> number one, it is a tax increase that republicans hate, so getting rid of it for the republicans is right in line with how they campaigned. >> and to your point that is what the supreme court did say, they did say individual mandate was a tax and allowed. >> number two, they need the money. $338 billion that they need to get this done. so i support the inclusion of it. i do agree that it complicates maybe one or two votes. my deep dark conspi

there is sort of this hope with republicans like look at murkowski, it worked. i know she has urged strange to run against moore. that being said, i think there is a real sense that running a write-in campaign will likely split the republican vote, that trump base, is going to continue to vote for moore and maybe some of the more mainstream republicans who do have concerns about moore, they might vote for someone like strange. when those votes are split, it could really give the election to a democrat. there's concern about that and someone choosing to get in and potentially give the seat to a december. >> that's kind of the question you lob to republicans, are you willing to lose a seat over what roy moore has been accused of, which is pretty bad stuff. i want to show you the white house position on moore. this is mark short, the president's top legislative aide liaison on "meet the press" over the weekend. >> is the president prepared to insert himself and try to fix this situation for -- >> chuck, he did insert himself. he supported luther strange in the prim

you have corker, flake, senator johnson, murkowski, collins and senator mccain. they all have different reasons. i want to play some sound bites for you. the first one is susan collins saying she hasn't supported him from the beginning. and then this was also senator jeff flake who butted these sound bites together when he was caught on a hot mike. listen to this. >> president trump was not my choice for the republican nominee for president. i want to see changes in that bill. and i think there will be changes. there are some provisions of the house bill that i like better there are provisions of both bills that i like but i think the bill needs work. >> become the party of roy moore and donald trump, we are toast. ainsley: what is your reaction to that? senator flake is not running for reflection. he clearly doesn't support the president. then susan collins she has healthcare that she is concerned with in her state. >> i'm very happy that senator collins is coming forth now and expressing some of the ways she thinks that the bill-out the final bill can be improv

and the best thing for him to do is to step aside. >> no question you're right about the murkowski. she had great name recognition in alaska which you might argue luther strange does not. i want to back up a little bit. what you said and others, if these allegations are true, this is the woman that's saying it. saying here's what happened. "the washington post" talked to 30 people. what more do we need to determine if the allegations are true? >> well, i totally agree with you but i can't be judge and jury on that. i mean, look, vice president pence came out last night about the seriousness of this, and using sort of the same sort of words, saying, you know, look, if there's even an ounce of truth to this, this guy's got to go. this is not what the republican party needs politically, and it's just not what washington needs. this is -- they already have sort of a bad reputation of a host of other issues. you add sexual misconduct with a minor in there, and oh, it's just -- it's just bad mojo. >> let's talk about taxes, senate bill introduced yesterday or finally, we learned what's in

got to keep an eye on murkowski,

they could lose lisa murkowski or john mccain and still pass the vice president breaks the tie. a very good chance the hopping. cheryl: part fatimah cÁdiz i was enamored. on a talk about johnson and danes. a lot more to be done for mainstream businesses, more for small businesses. do you think was a lower tax rates because the argument is that bill is doing so much to help big companies with the corporate tax rate but not so much the small taxpayers. >> that is my concern as well. we've got to make some progress, but like i said it is changing so quickly that i think we may just get their and i am hopeful that we will. i just wish that we could get a little more traction and that it wasn't changing quite so much that it was just hard to get a handle on it, lauren. transfer your democratic strategist and you don't sound like you hate us, that's encouraging. good to see both of you. >> u2. >> thank you. cheryl: coming up, would you rather watch from the victoria's secret on the runway or this. ♪ rudolph the red nose reindeer had a very shiny nose ♪ cheryl: who won the ratings race

murkowski is neutral at best. that's three votes if we count johnson and mccain as nos. you said for the process, we even heard from paul ryan saying i'm not going to weigh-in. the idea is that the house passes and then we send it to the senate with the strongest support possible. i don't know how he feels. i don't know how you go forward at this point looking as if the senate at this moment has some pretty heavy brakes against its wheels. >> thanks, deidra. senator john cornyn with us. are you spice -- surprised by senator johnson's opinion? >> not really. ron has been very clear about the changes he wants in the bill. he wants to make sure that pass-throughs or people that pay business income on an individual tax are treated in rough parody or at least fairly compared to corporations. we've made some improvements in that direction. obviously we still have work to do. we're sort of in the middle of the ball game now. my hope is we can get him back. >> neil: this struck some as a bit surprising because the thought that it was risky to start looking at maybe taking out th