an not running a campaign against the guy they have to beat. >> i think desantis is doing what scott walkere doing. i think he has tried to be the trumpy alternative, like a tim scott who is conservative but isn't bombastic or behave the way donald trump does, so i think he is doing it and everybody is waiting for something to happen to donald trump and they think they're going to step into the lane. so desantis thinks i'll step into the trumpy lane and the other people are in the people who don't like trump campaign. >> and if you think about it in terms of who is the most entertaining candidate, trd p do -- donald trump. and then who are the candidates who have some sort of momentum and win behind them, which is vivek ramaswamy, and chris christie who is throwing haymakers and who is not entertaining, with all due respect to mike pence, he's the watch paint dry candidate and it is why he can't get a leg up and a lot of our politicals now is about who is entertaining rather than who is qualified. >> it is good that you said with all due respect. no offense, but you're really boring. i said

now, this is not the story of ron desantis 2024, but scott walker 2016. consin governor was running a traditional race to court republican voters when he ran head first into the juggernaut named donald trump. that is what then governor walker actually look at that, that's the two of us back in 2015 riding his campaign bus, although he reminded me it was a winnebago. this was exactly eight years ago today. >> is trump good or bad for the race? >> you know, i will let donald trump speak for himself. to me i think a wide open field with as many different republican choices as possible is a good thing overall. >> joining me now from milwaukee, wisconsin, is that state's former governor, scott walker. it's crazy how we haven't aged in eight years, isn't it, governor? >> you look great in that picture and still today, too. >> you just heard that clip of the conversation we had eight years ago. donald trump was the front runner then, he is the front runner now. what's your overall impression of the picture of this race? >> yeah, it's certainly his to lose right n

let's remember, scott walker lasted all of 72 days.point. >> right. but wanda santos isn't leading at all. he is very far behind. there are some polls in iowa that show that vivek ramaswamy is beating him now. he's going in the wrong direction. it looks the way he's mismanaging the campaign, all these things makes him look like the scott walkers and jeb bush. it's not something that i think a lot of people have confidence in. chris christie and h asa hutchison, our polling at one and 3%. this is not, the republican primary base does not want to hear what they have to say. this is not going to be a primary about policy. ron desantis is out here trying to run to the right of donald trump, and going after disney, trying to defund disney's police in florida. we saw what he's going after, the culture wars in florida. people are not comfortable with this. they already have their many fascist in trump. it's great that chris christie is out there making those comments, but people remember that he didn't do this in 2016. if he had done this in

scott walker, rudy giuliani. i mean we go on and on and on. and someone emerges, right? you can go back to a jimmy carter who just emerge, i don't know, or adult points. brock obama, right. uh, so i don't know if we necessarily know who that candidate is right now. i think it's too early to tell, but i do agree that i don't think it is going to be fine or trump.

scott walker, rudy giuliani. i mean, we go on and on, on, and someone emerges, right. you can go back to jimmy carter who just emerge, i don't know, or adult pointer. brock obama. right. uh, so i don't know if we necessarily know who that candidate is right now. i think it's too early to tell, but i do agree that i don't think it is going to be by more trump. i think, you know, more than likely, you know, maybe we, we don't know, you know, people talking about the santas and then on the other side, you know, i don't know if even the democrats really have a bachelors who do it, who we're talking about here. beauty judge, i mean they're trying to else kamel as we speak. i think it's in the democrats, i use the judge couldn't get get some. uh, tell me when the narrative ready to vote for a guy who is openly gay. i don't think you have anything to do with that. i think it's just incompetent. he's a small town town, may or from you know, south bend indiana. like what seems to be done now is yeah, well, he's the, he's very eloquent. we gotta give him the kids. he puts words

scott walker, rudy giuliani. i mean we go on and on and on. and someone emerges, right? you can go back to a jimmy carter who just emerge, i don't know, or adult points. brock obama, right. uh, so i don't know if we necessarily know who that candidate is right now. i think it's too early to tell, but i do agree that i don't think it is going to be far more trump. i think you know, more than likely, you know, maybe we, we don't know. you know, if people talking about the santas and then on the other side, you know, i don't know if even the democrats really have a batch. because who do i, who were talking about your beauty judge, i mean, they're trying to house cobble as we speak. i think in the democrats, i use the judge couldn't get get some. uh, tell me when the americans ready to vote for a guy who is openly gay, i don't think you have anything to do with that. i think it's just incompetent. it's a small town town may or from, you know, south bend indiana like what singly done. that's, yeah. well, he's the, he's very eloquent at we gotta give him his, whenever he puts

during a successful campaign for governor, wisconsin republican scott walker effectively said as muchame. but he then served as trump's personal valet. he is the guy who had ring trump diet cokes to the oval office. when trump left office, nauta became one of the few aides to travel with him to mar-a-lago. by all accounts, the two are very close. there they are in philadelphia on friday, visiting a cheese steak shop. , nauta standing by trump's side even though he faces up to 20 years in prison for what looks like doing the ex presidents bidding. ty cobb recently said he felt sorry for nauta. he said i think what is easy prey for the president because he's a dedicated patriot. the proudest moment ever had was being named valley to the president and sadly the president he got name valet for is trump. michael schmidt is a watchdog correspondent for new york times who covers national security and federal investigations of he joins me now. michael, what can you tell us about walt nauta and this relationship? >> i think the important thing to know about what nauta is that he was someone wh

. >> i've got two words for you folks, scott walker okay. scott. walker google it. that is huron scientists, those hours. basil, let's talk a little bit about the money. the biden administration announced that next round of infrastructure law projects in all 50 states. now there was a concern ahead of the midterm elections that the funding would not be noticeable yet. do you think there is enough time before 2024? >> i do think there is enough time. and i want to tie this to piece that part of our earlier discussion. great reporting in cranes new york of how the southeast is booming. and some of these northeastern states were not actually losing money but also residents to the southeast. all of these red states that are actually getting a lot of new workers. they're getting a lot of businesses moving down there. and my point in saying that is that as he is talking about from the podium going down to projects in march or tele-greene's district, there are many other parts of the south where i feel that you can do that as well. all of these state pulling voters who may

the other comparison is scott walker.tis is more scott walker that he is rock obama and i think voters are starting to realize that. >> what do you take from this, scott? what you think of his answer when it came to where he is in the polls? he is not wrong that he is doing better in the state by state polls than in the national polls, and that the state-by-state are far more significant. i just looked at a bunch of i will polls, none of them are really great in terms of quality, trump is far and away in first place in the 40s and 50s. desantis is generally in the 20s or 30s. >> i think he is better in the states, that still doesn't mean trump is a crushing it as well. if you talk to the trump people as the polls fluctuate they still feel like in iowa they have a structural floor that they could never go below. think about 200-250,000 people will make up the iowa caucus. they think they probably have 30 or 40,000 votes in the bank if they do nothing. if you are desantis or anyone else that is a high hurdle. the real issue

it didn't work for scott walker. there's a sort of hollowness to it. is this guy running for president? someone who was elected by running an ad in which he had his toddler children building a wall like donald trump, and now he's running against donald trump? there's a fundamental flaw in all of this. i think that's why the whole campaign is sort of imploding. >> ally vitali, stuwar steven, thank you much. >>> the bridge in crimea damaged by an attack for a second time. whaut it means for the war in ukraine. >>> tonight at 8:00 eastern, joe scarborough hosts a primetime special taking a look at the making of "oppenheimer" one of this year's most highly anticipated blockbusters. joe sits down with the stars of the film tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc, but also streaming on peacock. streaming k (vo) if you have graves' disease, your eye symptoms could mean something more. that gritty feeling can't be brushed away. even a little blurry vision can distort things. and something serious may be behind those itchy eyes. up to 50% of people with graves' c

the ron desantis, actually afterwards for you -- for a very long time that desantis needs scott walker of 2024, and i would like to -- right now. scott walker was a governor, who read the president -- taken on the unions in here, state who are supposed to be the next great hope for the republican party, and at this point -- and what exactly happened. ron desantis, again, i think is someone that, i would just a, it a lot of donors are -- anxious or, of the media apparatus, across the board, they have to mob, there was no there there. there are a lot of other good candidates in this race that republican voters could, and i think are looking at, but the question is can any of the breakthrough and gain ground on donald trump. i think this remains to be seen? >> or maybe they just need a proper understand this. he is in the iowa state fair. they don't -- >> there are some things you can't teach, okay you can't teach, there are some things you cannot teach, and understand this has made it very, clear he does not enjoy being out there in the heat with the, people the children, with the hotdog

scott walker from wisconsin.kerry speaking in china meeting with officials on climate change. listen to this first. >> we had very frank conversations but we came here to break new ground, which we think is important at this stage. and it is clear that we are going to need a little more work to be able to complete that task, which we still believe, both of us, is doable. >> sandra: no deal is the takeaway from that. he went over there with a lofty goal of getting them to commit to some major changes. this happening in the back drop of a weakening chinese economy. a tough sell when you see the struggle we have had with the transition here to then go tell china to move away from fossil fuels as they are building new coal plants. it's an impossible sell. >> bill: to that point, the governor of new york is saying don't put a stove in your house and they are building a coal plant every 14 days. i think they have permitting approved for hundreds of coal plant that will come online. how will you talk to out of that econ

now i have repeatedly said right here that florida governor, ron desantis, will be the scott walker of this primary and wouldn't you know look at political playbook. they are making the same comparison, noting desantis's solved efforts to get ahead of current front runner, former president donald trump. now playbook notes that while polling in iowa is limited, they currently have desantis at a whopping 24 points behind trump. now we know that the iowa caucus will be january 15th, that is just over six months away. so congressman, what is your take on all of this? particularly desantis is seeming inability to gain traction. >> look, you might be right about dissent is being the scott walker of the cycle. i would make that prediction just yet but it is still very early. bottom line is i think desantis, you know more voters get to know him, unfortunately, he has been weaker. that is the harsh reality. and i think, in many cases, he is tried out like trump. he's taking very hard positions, like trump, like why buy the imitation and you can get the real thing but i think that is a real prob

you might be right about desantis upping the scott walker of this cycle.ouldn't make that prediction just yet, but it still very early. bottom line is, i think desantis, the more voters get to know him, unfortunately, he's gotten -- he's been weaker. that's the harsh reality. and i think in many cases he's tried to outdo trump. he's taking very hard positions kind of like trump like, but why by the imitation when you get the real thing? but trump, that's a real problem for him in some of these other candidates. i think he's got to figure out his lane. i don't think this is a very smart lane by running on the politics of grievance and victimization. i think that is a mistake. that his politics needs to be a little bit more aspirational. now look, scott, he's still on the lower numbers and chris christie and others out there who are trying to make a more positive case are struggling as well. but, desantis, he's got to draw a sharper contrast with trump. he has to take it more firmly indirectly, he's not. he's a bit socially awkward i guess is probably the be

it was the front runner, scott walker, we go on and on and on. and someone emerges. right. you can go back to a jimmy carter who just emerge, i don't know, are adult pointed out brock obama. right? so, so i don't know if we necessarily know who that candidate is right now. i think it's too early to tell, but i do with the buying or truck. you know, maybe we, we don't know, you know, if people talking about the santas and then on the other side, you know, i don't know if even the democrats really have a batch. because who do i, who we're talking about, your beauty judge, i mean they're trying to house cobble as we speak. i think in the democrats, i use the judge couldn't get get some uh, tell me when the narrative ready to vote for a guy who is openly gay. i don't think you have anything to do with that. i think it's just incompetent. it's a small town town may or from, you know, south bend indiana like what singly done that. yeah. well, he's out of color. uh, we gotta give him the kids. he puts words together is very, very nicely. but, but yeah, but listen to my question. n

scott walker, i rudy giuliani. i mean, we go on and on, on, and someone emerges. right. you can go back to jimmy carter who just emerge, i don't know, or adult points. brock obama. right. uh, so i don't know if we necessarily know who that candidate is right now. i think it's too early to tell, but i do agree that i don't think it is going to be by war trump. i think, you know, more than likely, you know, maybe we, we don't know, you know, people talking about the status and then on the other side, you know, i don't know if even the democrats really have a bachelors who do it, what we're talking about here booted judge, i mean they're trying to house cobble as we speak. i think it's in the democrats. i use the judge can get get some uh, tell me when the americans ready to vote for a guy who is openly gay. was anything do that i think is just incompetent. he's a small town town, may or from, you know, south bend indiana like what singly done. that's, yeah. well, he's the, he's very eloquent at we, you gotta give him the whatever he puts words together is very, very nicely

scott walker, rudy giuliani. i mean, we go on and on, on and someone emerges, right. you can go back to jimmy carter who just emerge, i don't know, or adult points, and brock obama. right. uh, so i don't know if we necessarily know who that candidate is right now. i think it's too early to tell, but i do agree that i don't think it is going to be by more trump. i think, you know, more than likely, you know, maybe we, we don't know, you know, what people talking about the sadness and then on the other side, you know, i don't know if even the democrats really have a bachelors who do it, who we're talking about here booted judge, i mean they're trying to house cobble as we speak. i think it's in the democrats. i use the judge can get get some. uh, tell me when the narrative ready to vote for a guy who is openly gay, was anything do that? i think it's just incompetent. he's a small town town, may or from, you know, south bend indiana like what, singly dog. that's. yeah. well, he's the, he's very eloquent, we gotta give him his, whenever he puts words together is very, ver

or maybe scott walker. scott walker dropped out in september before anybody could vote for him in jeb bush got one delegate. in 2007 on the democratic side hillary clinton was 34 points ahead of barack obama. we know how that ended. here is what i think we should agree on, we suck at predicting this stuff. polls are regularly wrong. there was not one a poll that showed donald trump beating hillary clinton until election night. do you want to know why? in part we all lied to them. we don't trust them, they don't call the right people. how many times we have to see the polls being wrong for us to say they don't matter that much? here is what i suggest, go to all of these for all of these candidates and see if they stand up here for two hours and answer questions. see if they won't make you write them out beforehand so their staff and see which ones they like to answer. see if they will actually call on anybody. randomly. and that you can ask whatever you want to ask and actually answer your questions. rather

this guy works well at the state level the way scott walker did in wisconsin some years ago.ready for the prime time. he can't hit the big league pitching. he has a bad strategy is the former congressman indicated. i think he also doesn't get fundamentally that politics is about addition, not subtraction, unless you donald trump. he has five endorsements among house republicans. trump has 60. you have to go reach out and connect with people, which ron desantis does not do well. many describe him as a cold fish in person. that is not a good place to be if you are trying to put together a national campaign. yes, he has raised a lot of money. in the past, we have had many republicans who have raised a bundle and they flopped. they don't even get out of the gate. unless he changes his strategy. he is on the trail, he is looking at early elimination. >> one of the questions that might be given the reporting that jonathan is talking about not doing so well with folks and people, not as much of a people person as trump, but it's hard to be in the same category, is that he has focus.

i'm scott walker. this break our begins with a count down to tomorrow's inflation reports.our final stretch to get ahead of that, and what it means to this rally. we ask two guests that critical question. in the meantime, here is your scorecard with 20 minutes to go in regulation. the dow getting a boost today from industrial names like 3m and ingersoll-rand, and boeing, which posted strong delivery members. the etf tracking industrials, by the way, hitting a new all-time high today. salesforce is helping

. >>> i'm brian sullivan in for scott walker this make-or-break hour begins with a win streak that just won't quit the dow on track for its 11th higher day in a row. that is the longest substreak in six years, and we are closing in on the all-time record of 13 higher days in a row for the dow set all the way back in the halcion days of 1987 here's your scorecard. the most important hour of the trading day i'm told, the last, the dow up about 0.5%. small caps didn't do anything to begin the year but slowly starting to perk colate up. our "talk of the tape. you have the fed decision on wednesday. you have a very busy earnings season can anything -- should all the bears, if there's any left, should they go in to hibernation? let's ask anastasia amoroso, i-cap's manager. >> good to see you >> dow 11 days what's happened? i don't understand what changed from two weeks ago >> that's the point. the technical point is still constructive for stocks meaning if we stay around these levels we'll continue to trade above moving averages and all the key cta commodity adviser thresholds, so there's no

jeb bush 22, scott walker 17, marco rubio 14, and donald trump was at 1%. >> yeah. just shows polls are snapshots in time and there is lots of time to go in the race. but there is big difference between donald trump and jeb bush. donald trump is in a dominant position in the republican party since 2016. 30-point lead and still the biggest gorilla in the room. how you loosen his grip on the party is a really tough challenge. >> bill: i would argue two months later when we had the debate is when it changed. debates can change. >> dana: in iowa a fox business poll continuing here, donald trump at 46%, desantis 16, tim scott 11. desantis tried to say this is a two-man race but you look also south carolina as well, 48, nikki haley 14%. ron desantis 13. is it a two-person race? >> i think so much can change, like we said. polls are just snapshots. i don't think anything is going to change until either debate or an actual primary. then you find some may not have won but come at a high second and a lot of the second or third tier candidates drop out. all those consolidate.

you look back to where we were at this point in time before the '16 race, it was scott walker and jebnty changed. so look at the back of the pack that have a chance to make their case. i don't have to win just iowa to to be meaningful. >> you can also -- the other pathway is to try to consolidate some support for the other part of the republican primary electorate and see if something happens that donald trump is not able to continue to compete. >> you know, it's also interesting in this "new york times"/siena poll, likely republican voters said they thought trump was more likely to beat biden than desantis. 58% trump, 28% said desantis. what's your reaction? it's clear they're all in for donald trump, and while they may even like ron desantis, while donald trump is in the race, they're not even going to consider him. if someone can consult the majority of that party, donald trump is likely to be the nom nominee. >> the key with these numbers is they are primary voters. the voting electorate and the bloc that will make a difference is the independent voters. donald trump does not have

called by scott walker, remember him? marco rubio, donald trump is candidate number 11. he is pulling out 1%, basically this time 2016 is exactly where you are. let's go back further than that, 2007 hillary clinton way ahead of barack obama. and my personal favorite 1992 1i will caucus the first democratic contest bill clinton avalanche against him. he is got 2.8% and of course went on to in the white house. you do not give up hope. do you think you'll make the debate here on fox on august 23? >> that is why keepsake i've got them right where i want them. before he got the right we want them? >> yes. no, look we feel very confident but obviously as she said we started late. we are relatively unknown. i think we have a great story to tell. we have a great background. i like to think i'm a good candidate and a person who is able to articulate my vision and the vision for this country. which ice i think is inspirational by that as a people are looking for we see shuffling already happen. we see people dropping other people emerging. so time is going to be our ally. getting

scott walker tweeted the biden presidency in one clip.snbc the network that aired the interview tweeted a laughing emoji. one political consultant. oh goodness, joe biden is really lost. >> him walking off is the least of his problems. i think it's funny and whatever. looking forward again his age will be something he has to answer for. this is not just republican talking point. you have democrats and independents deeply concerned about his age and stamina to do the job and doesn't help when he is not really campaigning, not talking to press as often as previous presidents. that plays into it. the other part is getting out and selling his agenda is something he has to do. the issue for the biden administration the agenda is unpopular. you can't find a poll where the american public approves of his handling of issues, the presidency or policies. he has a lot of work to do in 2024 that he wants to make up to that to address his age and policies. they have been unpopular. the question remains about his age and they have not done a good job e

and the reason it won't is because ron desantis is the tim pawlentys of scott walkers. that is exactly what he is. i think in two, three, four months, we're going to not even be discussing ron desantis anymore. the problem is the more you get an opportunity to meet ron desantis, the less voters like him. in florida, he was able to run on policy recently. he was able to do an air drop campaign. it's a huge state. florida is like three states in one. he was a great statewide candidate. however, now you have to go and do kind of retail politics in iowa, retail politics in new hampshire, retail politics in south carolina. what they're realizing is ron desantis is about 5'8". they're realizing they don't really care for him that much, his interpersonal skills and they're realizing he's not a true fighter against donald trump. in order for someone to win this primary, they have to be big on the future of this country, i.e. tim scott, and they have to be somewhat of a bully, i.e., chris christie. and there's no combination of both. >> that was profound. >> i took a moment to m

we're bringing together the most influential leaders across the sports landscape scott walker will becode, or go to the website >>> it's time for "final trades." josh, you're up first. what do you got? >> i think live nation gets back above 100, doesn't stop until it sees 110 i'm long on the stock, still like it. >> jason, how about you? >> i like m&t bank solid numbers, and i like their acquisition. >> stephanie, your final trade >> i like 3m operating margins beat by 300 basis points, free cash flow with 44% stock still down 8% over the year trades 12 times earnings >> jim >> mxp semiconductors, over 50% of their business is automotive. we know there's a huge production catchup going on in car production they're raising prices, excellent results yesterday. very forgiving multiple at 16 times. 2% dividend yield. i'll leave it there. >> okay. the markets here are still higher on the session, can you the dow jones industrial higher by 0.2%. nasdaq higher by 0.8%. the s&p 500 higher by 0.4% materials leading the way, real estate, the laggard. "the exchange" starts now. >>> here's what's

the spokes have supported him for eight years, it's a very different situation than jeb bush and scott walker were in. he's in a 30-point lead nationally. ron desantis is not capable of taking him on. in republican party voters are you ready to go back to the pre-trump area. chris christie's message doesn't appeal to me but i'm not even a republican it anymore, and certainly not a median republican primary voter. and right now outside of trump and desantis the person who does the best with the maga voters is this guy vivek ramaswamy, who has no background to speak on but he is right now third in the national polls. so i think that is reality. i think chris christie is kind of wishing that was not reality. but i think it's the only way to actually be successful in the inner campaign is to recognize what is really happening on the ground and what these voters want. the voters want maga republicans. unless a maga republican can give them an alternative, we're gonna end up with donald trump. >> james, same question to you, what is your take on the gop primary so far? >> it's trump. it's no republ

he's looking to reassure right wing donors and activist said that he's not scott walker or jeb bush. >>> also tonight, new reporting on a target letter sent to the special counsel -- sent by the special counsel to a trump staffer, which could be an indicator of how jack smith plans to prosecute the classified documents case. >>> but we begin tonight with some advice for the republican party. to win elections you got to read the room. you listen to the american people. you pay attention to their priorities. and then those americans vote. based on what they want. it isn't complicated. it's the kind of stuff you learn in the third grade, except whoops, you don't want third grader reading books anymore. republicans simply cannot read the room, choosing instead to occupy a much smaller voter bloc of social conservatives who are hell bent on policies that are not about the unborn but rather about undoing 20th century progress. today, the 2024 republican field minus donald trump addressed evangelical voters at the family leadership summit in iowa. the event was hosted by fired former fox ho

in an article today, kellyanne from the hill, ron desantis is the next scott walker?doing a reboot. has a reboot helped someone to overcome 30 points? >> a reboot has helped, but usually not six weeks later. you don't reboot while the ink is still wet. i've been long on the record on fox news on the daily about this. i think he should have waited. for many different reasons. he's ruined himself for 2028. he does way too much woke and covid. people want to hear about woke, the economy according to the fox news poll is the number 1 issue. can't get around it. as i said on your program last year, it was your program sitting next to you and dana perino. donors don't decide the nominees. the voters do. the voters decide who the nominees are and who the president is. thank god in our great democracy, that's true. desantis is a good governor. he's run a bad campaign. the other is the debate stage. your next guest, chris christie, long-time friend and confident of president trump and my friend as well. he will make the debate stage. he's a blue state governor, which is very i

the leader was scott walker. that obviously changed.s can still potentially change, i don't see it possible. fundamentally, the mistake that desantis made was thinking he could result in a cult environment, when donald trump is a cult leader. i think part of it is psychological. a lot of trump supporters to switch their support mean that the last seven years is to admit defeat. i don't think they're going to do that. i think desantis is continuing to play the last man standing strategy. maybe it's the third or fourth or fifth indictment that knocks him had over. who knows. but i think that's all he has going for him. otherwise, this race is pretty much in the bag for trump. >> i'm going to push back. he doesn't show up to the august primary debate. he says i don't like fox news and i don't need to go. there's a possible that somebody like desantis could actually gain some grounds. it's a power move, because then his specter hangs over. the very fact he is missing is the story line. the bad news for desantis, because it's a lose/lose pro

if it does not happen, he's going to be scott walker of 2016. >> i'm thinking of this from a strategicys behind trump in the polls but he kind of started from the bottom and he's still here. he was always down 10, now it's 20. i mean, from a strategy perspective historically, is there an example of someone, you know, bridging or cutting into a 20-point gap in a primary when the public already knows who they are? it's one thing to be down 20 points when nobody knows who you are. everybody in the country knows who ron desantis is. is there any way he catches up with trump? >> i think you just made it very clear right there. when the public doesn't know who you are or your political acumen. look at donald trump, a lot of people were saying no way he could win the nomination. but with someone like desantis who the republican party, who fox news even kind of crowned as the antidote, whatever the antidote could be to trump for the republican party and i would say he's fumbling this bad. seems like he had a 20-point lead in the fourth quarter of a championship game and he fumbled all of that

i mean, you think back to the early days of jeb bush, governor scott walker, that's the nature of it,oo much, far too fast, and he doesn't have -- i don't mean this meanly, he doesn't have the personality or the acumen to be able to follow through on that. >> congressman alluded to it a little bit. do you think it's a mistake for desantis to try and run to the right of former president trump? has that been a mistake? >> only because there's nothing there but a ditch. you can't out trump trump. the congressman just said it. you look at the people who are available in his party to vote against donald trump, it's people who would maybe admire the competence of a governor who's gotten a lot of stuff done, but not people who are, you know, more extreme, and so he's done this bizarre thing where i guess there's some narrow slice of people who just don't think donald trump is mean and horrible enough, but haven't found them yet, nor can the pollsters. that is what is showing up. he's got a terrible strategy to get the nomination, and, you know, it's just the bottom line. >> van jones, apprec

i believe we are seeing him turn into scott walker. forcing him to turn.'t know if viewers remember those names. in one point in time, they were the next big it thing. everyone thought they were the front runner to be the gop nominee. they turned into a chris. they flew to close to the sun. >> desantis is actually on fox before we came on here. he was asked why he is not resonating with voters. this is fascinating. this is what he said. >> i've also been attacked more than anybody, as you know, will. donald trump has spent over 20 million attacking meat. that's more than he spent supporting republican candidates and last year's midterm election. you can't win with just republican voters. i think we showed in florida, if you won a big victory, you have to win independent voters. you have to win people who haven't voted for a party in the last several cycles. i've shown that i can do that. i think we can do it nationally. >> is he doing stuff to do that? to appeal to independent voters, people have voted for republicans? >> he has to win a republican primary

i'm scott walker. this break our begins with a count down to tomorrow's inflation reports. your final stretch to get ahead of that, and what it means to this rally. we ask two guests that critical question. in the meantime, here is your scorecard with 20 minutes to go in regulation. the dow getting a boost today from industrial names like 3m and ingersoll-rand, and boeing, which posted strong delivery members. the etf tracking industrials, by the way, hitting a new all-time high today. salesforce is helping tech, interest rates have been mostly lower ahead of that cpi print in the morning. nasdaq 34 points, that brings us to our talk of the tape whether it is time to lean into this market, or back off, and wait for a better entry point. gabriela santos is here as well, global market strategist for asset management, both here, as you can see, ladies, it is good to have you. learn about his first tomorrow in the cpi? >> not a lot. the fed will already go. inflation is downside relative to investor expectation. it hinges on prices we expect to come down over a few months. infl

you and i have all so seen presidential campaigns that were the hot thing from scott walker to bobbyush. things collapse because they didn't have the skill and talent as campaigners. can desantis turn it around? look, if donald trump is eaten by a shark, struck by lightning, somehow put in jail, who knows? right now, the other candidates have seen a move available to them. that is why you have youngkin looking at this race now, greg abbott i'm told is taking another look at this race. none of these people at camp and georgia, none of these people are intimidated now by ron desantis. they are not worried about him any longer. they look at him now as someone who had the statute love and money side, that's gone away. he is in trouble. >> rick, i want to pull that lens out in the last moments that we have. both of you, even debbie have touched on something that refers back to a conversation i had with eddie in the last hour. i wanted to ask you, what has happened to this gop that you and i toiled and worked in and spent a lot of time grooming and making arguments for the american people?

and scott walker was number two. so we got a lot of work to do here. but i'm in tim scott's state. have anything bad to say about tim scott. we disagree on some things. but just as republicans should, not the way donald trump does it by mocking, making fun of, and degrading it. i'll tell you one thing, neither me or tim scott has ever said. we never said it would be okay to suspend the constitution of the united states. donald trump has. and the oath of the presidency is to preserve, protect, and defend, not suspend. and that, quite frankly, disqualifies him. >> one question here i want to ask you about rfk jr. he was on capitol hill yesterday, governor, as a guest of republicans, testifying at a hearing that they called about governor sponsorship. he denied saying things that he actually has said many times. here's one example, governor. >> i've never been any vaccine. everybody in this room probably believes that i have been because that's the prevailing narrative. i have never told the public, avoid vaccination. >> i see somebody on a hiking trail carrying a little baby. and i s

, and that's a concern, especially for someone who's been likened to former wisconsin governor scott walkera candidate in the 2016 field who came in with a lot of fanfare, a lot of money and a big staff and was out within months. that's not a comparison that desantis's allies have liked, and certainly this is not something that helps them shed that. >> ali vitali, thank you so much. we're enjoying watching you very early in the morning throughout the day. i don't know when you rest, but i appreciate it, ali, thanks. >> victoria, what does the desantis staff shake-up say to you? >> i don't think it's a terribly bad warning sign. we do see campaigns traditionally have major shake-ups and desantis in his past campaign has had shake-ups like these, but picking up on what ali said, you know, upfront his numbers look okay, but the bigger issue for me is the small dollar donations where trump still dominates there. and it's not so much about the cash. sure, you want that money to finance your campaign, but let's think ahead, jose, six months, seven months, when we start looking at primaries, the s

ron desantis tried so hard to avoid being the next scott walker or jeb bush that it's become a self-fulfillingy. when you see him now, he's overthinking every move both on his part and the campaign as well, and so at this point, it does look like it's more the candidate there. >> let's stick on florida for a moment because the state of florida's legislature passed a change in the way that they teach kids about slavery, and i'm going to raead the language directly from the text of what passed. instruction needs to include how slaves developed skills which in some instanc could be applied for their personal benefit and on page 17, it says instruction includes acts of violence perpetrated against and by african americans, and it goes through a number of examples, tulsa race massacre, et cetera. ron desantis was asked about this, initially sort of deflects, errol, and then doubles down. here's what he said. >> i didn't do it. i wasn't involved in it, but i think -- i think what they're doing is i think that they're probably going to show some of the folks that eventually parlayed, you know, being

. >>> i'm brian sullivan in for scott walker this make-or-break hour begins with a win streak that just't quit the dow on track for its 11th higher day in a row. that is the longest substreak in six years, and we are closing in on the all-time record of 13 higher days in a row for the dow set all the way back in the halcion days of 1987 here's your scorecard. the most important hour of the trading day i'm told, the last, th

you look back at fox's polling from june of 2015, it was jeb bush leading the pack followed by scott walker that candidate named donald trump trailed at 4%. we all know how that turned out, bret. it does show how candidate views and preferences can certainly change. pretty pretty pretty amazing to look back and he did, the former president, candidate use those debates to make the big jump. griff, thanks. please join martha mccallum and me as we host the first republican debate of the primary season. it will happen right here on fox news channel. august 23rd. 9:00 p.m. eastern time broadcast from milwaukee, wisconsin. ♪ >> as we take a look at the markets here -- we got the markets coming up? the dow and the s&p 500? no? how about that? breaking news, we have got this -- the first part of israel's new judicial reform bill has passed the knesset unanimously reaction by the public not nearly as positive. this comes as prime minister benjamin netanyahu was dismissed from a hospital early this morning. correspondent trey yingst is in jerusalem tonight. >> taken over the main highway in jerusalem

you think back to the early days of joe -- yarborough scott walker. that's the nature of it.oo much, for two. first he does not have, i don't mean this, mainly he does not have a personality or the acumen to be able to follow through on that. >> congress men alluded to, it do you think it's too late to foul--. there's nothing there of the better. ditch you can't out-trump trump. the congressman just said it. when you look at the people who are available, in his party to vote against donald trump, it's people who would maybe admire the confidence of a governor who's gotten a lot of staff. but not people who are more extreme. he's done this bizarre saying, where i guess there's some narrow slice of people, who don't think donald trump, is mean and horrible enough, but i haven't found them yet. that is what is showing up. he's got a terrible strategy at the nomination. that's just the bottom line. van jones, i appreciate it. >> i just got to say, quick i think at the beginning, he thought trump was going down, and he needed a carbon copy trump. the problem is, trump is not going