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secretary raffensperger, thank you for being here today. you've been a public servant in georgia since 2015, serving first as member of the georgia house of representatives, and then since january 2019 as george's secretary of state. as a self described conservative republican, is it fair to say you wanted president trump to win the 2020 election? >> yes it is. >> mister secretary, many witnesses have told the select committee that election date november 3rd, 2020, was largely uneventful day in their home states. in spite of the challenges of conducting an election during a pandemic he wrote in the washington post that the election was, quote, successful. tell us, what was your impression of how the election proceeded in >> on georgia. >> election day in november, our election went remarkably smooth. in fact, we met at the georgia energy emergency management association headquarters. we were following wait times online. the average way time with three minutes in the afternoon. it actually got down to two minutes. at the end of the day, we f
secretary raffensperger, thank you for being here today. you've been a public servant in georgia since 2015, serving first as member of the georgia house of representatives, and then since january 2019 as george's secretary of state. as a self described conservative republican, is it fair to say you wanted president trump to win the 2020 election? >> yes it is. >> mister secretary, many witnesses have told the select committee that election date november 3rd, 2020, was largely...
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mainly the secretary of state, brad raffensperger, who you heard from today. and i'm told that despite what you saw today, which was the committee playing clips of that call with claims from trump saying thousands of ballots had been shredded or thousands of dead people had voted, and then flashing to raffensperger saying that's not true, we checked that out. that's also not true. trump has continued to defend that call. he has said it was a perfect call. he has told people he assumed it was being recorded. there were attorneys on the line as they were in this hour-lawn call where he alternated between asking for raffensperger to find these votes, thinly veiled threatening him when it came to certain pushback on claims he was making, and despite the fact you heard from them talking about the harassment that not just they faced but their families faced and you heard from raffensperger saying his daughter-in-law was one of those people. despite that, trump has continued to defend his call and stand up for it and believed it was the right call, a perfect call, an
mainly the secretary of state, brad raffensperger, who you heard from today. and i'm told that despite what you saw today, which was the committee playing clips of that call with claims from trump saying thousands of ballots had been shredded or thousands of dead people had voted, and then flashing to raffensperger saying that's not true, we checked that out. that's also not true. trump has continued to defend that call. he has said it was a perfect call. he has told people he assumed it was...
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i mean, that is -- he was threatening raffensperger. we heard that today.s threatening an election official. they're prosecuting it in georgia. but it's a federal election. it's a crime. the idea that he has led a conspiracy to overturn a democratic election, and that -- i'm not a lawyer, but i played one in a sketch. and -- that's criminal. >> michael steele, former senator franken just laid it out for us. and it's distressing that more voters don't put the preservation of democracy higher. think about corporate donors. think about corporate america, right? whenever there is something big and they are at risk of losing employees, are losing customers, they step in. they are dead silent here. that's -- that is not tell you it's worrisome, that again, people vote for those who affect them, not offend them. they're not realizing this could affect our future. >> well, i think that's very much the case. it's all about how they weigh these things and their lives. you have, for the past couple of weeks now, stephanie, made the case about the economy, and the role
i mean, that is -- he was threatening raffensperger. we heard that today.s threatening an election official. they're prosecuting it in georgia. but it's a federal election. it's a crime. the idea that he has led a conspiracy to overturn a democratic election, and that -- i'm not a lawyer, but i played one in a sketch. and -- that's criminal. >> michael steele, former senator franken just laid it out for us. and it's distressing that more voters don't put the preservation of democracy...
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brad raffensperger has security because of his job. daughter-in-law doesn't and his daughter-in-law had a home invasion where she's a widow with young children. we're talking about physical menacing of elected officials but even worse as tim points out of people like shaye moss who have no protection whatsoever. her mom had to leave her home, had to move out of her home. i mean, what does this portend for 2022? know you're doing a lot of work on what's going to happen in georgia. there's big elections that trump really cares about coming up in that state. what's the mood? what's the temperature down there going forward? >> yeah, i mean, january 6th to your point could also have been a dark day for shaye moss' mother had she not left the house as the officials advised her to do on that day because there could have been violence at her home that day. you know, i think the -- what this means going forward, again, shaye moss and ruby freeman will not be poll workers in upcoming elections because of the chilling effect this had on her and o
brad raffensperger has security because of his job. daughter-in-law doesn't and his daughter-in-law had a home invasion where she's a widow with young children. we're talking about physical menacing of elected officials but even worse as tim points out of people like shaye moss who have no protection whatsoever. her mom had to leave her home, had to move out of her home. i mean, what does this portend for 2022? know you're doing a lot of work on what's going to happen in georgia. there's big...
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talked about that. >> raffensperger talked about it.part of the hatred that women has seeded. he's done it to other women. i've been the target of his harassment online. women get a particular kind of attention from trump and his supporters. and i think it needs calling out because women have been going through this not just for election stuff, but through the whole course of his administration. >> but this certainly ramps it up and takes it to a completely different level. my next question is for you, allison. al schmidt was on with jarp earlier and said trump's election lie has nothing to do with being a republican at all and has to do with whether you're willing to lie for the former president or not. right? >> absolutely. look, these are republican election officials in many states that stood up for the right thing. brad raffensperger has said from the beginning i'm going to do my constitutional duty, i'm going to follow the law, we are a nation of laws. we are not a nation of the current elected president being able to decide if th
talked about that. >> raffensperger talked about it.part of the hatred that women has seeded. he's done it to other women. i've been the target of his harassment online. women get a particular kind of attention from trump and his supporters. and i think it needs calling out because women have been going through this not just for election stuff, but through the whole course of his administration. >> but this certainly ramps it up and takes it to a completely different level. my next...
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bowers and raffensperger both voted for trump and both trump supporters. you know, and for some people watching, to even, you know, imagine getting that -- they were. they wanted him to win, fully, and yet still stood up and did the right thing loudly and clearly. congresswoman, i want to talk about a woman we heard at the top of the program briefly, american citizen, election worker, shea moss, volunteers, working on the election, she became the subject receiving threats, of one of trump's election lies and here is what she said about how her life has changed. >> one of the videos we just watched, mr. giuliani accused you and your mother of passing some sort of usb drive to eachother. what was your mom actually handing you on that video? >> a ginger mint. don't want anyone knowing my name. don't want to go anywhere with my mom because she might yell my name out over the grocery aisle or something. i don't go to the grocery store at all. i haven't been anywhere at all. i gained about 60 pounds. i just don't do nothing anymore. i don't want to go anywhere,
bowers and raffensperger both voted for trump and both trump supporters. you know, and for some people watching, to even, you know, imagine getting that -- they were. they wanted him to win, fully, and yet still stood up and did the right thing loudly and clearly. congresswoman, i want to talk about a woman we heard at the top of the program briefly, american citizen, election worker, shea moss, volunteers, working on the election, she became the subject receiving threats, of one of trump's...
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raffensperger wrote a book about it.e thing i learned today that i didn't know yesterday in an interview with the "l.a. times," adam schiff said the committee has text messages from mark meadows where he expresses a desire to send those conducting the georgia audit autographed signatures, autographed maga hats, autographed by donald trump. >> all of these little pieces add some color and texture to the story. to go back to chuck's point about the need to have really clear evidence of what was going on, i think juries -- if we were talking about a criminal case, for sure -- are interested in hearing about little details that firm up the relationships. this isn't something that you do when you are the president's chief of staff just for nothing. this is the sort of thing that you do when the relationship has been productive and the work has been productive. >> is it legal to send an auditor an autographed hat? where does the law stand on that? >> it's technically okay to send something that's small in value. that would tur
raffensperger wrote a book about it.e thing i learned today that i didn't know yesterday in an interview with the "l.a. times," adam schiff said the committee has text messages from mark meadows where he expresses a desire to send those conducting the georgia audit autographed signatures, autographed maga hats, autographed by donald trump. >> all of these little pieces add some color and texture to the story. to go back to chuck's point about the need to have really clear...
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raffensperger himself testified to the grand jury, in the afternoon.public broadcasting, he was there for four hours, much to discuss, i guess. so, to be clear, that grand jury has the tape of the call, and they have now heard from the primary witness. i for one can see why president trump, former president trump, might be a bit nervous. joining us now is barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan, and current professor at the university of michigan school of law. barbara, thanks so much for being with us tonight. most major criminal probes that we've covered in the past seem to have called on most important witnesses to testify close to last. why do you think they called reference raffensperger in the grand jury's first week. >> well, although he is an important witness, he's likely to be a friendly witness. the witnesses that you might tend to wait until the end, are those that might tend to be more hostile, and those where you feel the need to have as much information as possible, to be armed with all the documents, s
raffensperger himself testified to the grand jury, in the afternoon.public broadcasting, he was there for four hours, much to discuss, i guess. so, to be clear, that grand jury has the tape of the call, and they have now heard from the primary witness. i for one can see why president trump, former president trump, might be a bit nervous. joining us now is barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan, and current professor at the university of michigan school of...
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my boss, secretary raffensperger, his address is out there. they have people doing caravans by their house, people have come on to their property. it has to stop. this is elections, this is the backbone of democracy and all of you who have not said a word are complicit in this. >> the point is this, donald trump did not care about the threats of violence. he did not condemn them, he made no effort to stop them. he went forward with his fake allegations anyway. one more point, i would urge all of those watching today to focus on the evidence the committee will present. do not be distracted by politics, this is serious. we cannot let america become a nation of conspiracy theories and the violence. finally, i want to thank our witnesses today for all of your service to our country. today, all of america will hear about the selfless actions of these men and women who acted honorably to uphold the law, protect our freedom, and preserve our constitution. today, mister chairman, we will all see an example of what truly makes america great. thank you,
my boss, secretary raffensperger, his address is out there. they have people doing caravans by their house, people have come on to their property. it has to stop. this is elections, this is the backbone of democracy and all of you who have not said a word are complicit in this. >> the point is this, donald trump did not care about the threats of violence. he did not condemn them, he made no effort to stop them. he went forward with his fake allegations anyway. one more point, i would urge...
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the second was the specificity of raffensperger's testimony. he went into detail about everything he investigated, saying he investigated every element of the allegations trump team brought to him. >> they said there was over 66,000 underage voters, we found that there's actually zero. there were zero nonregistered voters. they said there were 2,056 felons. we identified 74 or less that were actually still on felony sentence. every single allegation we checked, we ran down the rabbit trail to make sure that our numbers were accurate. laura: raffensperger detailed all the stuff about the allegations trump brought to him and how they were all false. he also talked about the phone call trump made to him, pressuring him to find more than 11,000 votes. a lot of law experts think that is enough to bring criminal charges against trump and his allies. the committee today brought up the legality of what we witnessed on january 6 in the lead up to it and they said over and over that the justice department needs to be paying attention to what they present
the second was the specificity of raffensperger's testimony. he went into detail about everything he investigated, saying he investigated every element of the allegations trump team brought to him. >> they said there was over 66,000 underage voters, we found that there's actually zero. there were zero nonregistered voters. they said there were 2,056 felons. we identified 74 or less that were actually still on felony sentence. every single allegation we checked, we ran down the rabbit...
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i put it in my book and spent some time trying to tease out what it looked like if brad raffenspergerould have snepd front of a microphone for ten seconds and spread doubt about where the election was going to head or governor kemp would have alluded to some sort of fraud or jeff duncan would have stood up and said we should call a special session just because the sitting president wants us to. it would have created complete chaos. two and a half million of votes in georgia would have been nullified and millions of votes around the country. we were elected to follow the constitution and to follow the law. it didn't work out for us. we have time to regroup and figure out a better pathway forward. i think these january 6th hearings are going to be a true launching pad for a gop 2.0. a different direction, a better direction that's a better competitor to a joe biden agenda that's quite honestly failing america. >> secretary raffensperger spoke about threats that he received, his wife received, his daughter-in-law's home was broken into, his son has passed away. despite all that he's cont
i put it in my book and spent some time trying to tease out what it looked like if brad raffenspergerould have snepd front of a microphone for ten seconds and spread doubt about where the election was going to head or governor kemp would have alluded to some sort of fraud or jeff duncan would have stood up and said we should call a special session just because the sitting president wants us to. it would have created complete chaos. two and a half million of votes in georgia would have been...
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raffensperger is testifying today.well as georgia attorney general. back to you. >> sarah murphy, thanks so much. >>> joining us to discuss, michael moore, good to have you back. you have the president on tape asking, you can say pressuring, georgia's top election official, he is at the time the leader of the free world, asking him to find enough votes to overturn the results in that state. as i understand it, a lot of this depends on intent of the president. what would prosecutors need to learn from raffensperger to move the ball forward legally here? >> you know, well, good morning to both of you. i do think it is an incredibly strong piece of evidence and the question will be whether or not it is admissible in a trial. there is a los lot of legal argt about that. one party to the conversation had to give consent prior to the recording for the recording to be admissible. and so we know that brad raffensperger said he did not know it was being recorded. he said some months back. i'm sure trump is going to say that. th
raffensperger is testifying today.well as georgia attorney general. back to you. >> sarah murphy, thanks so much. >>> joining us to discuss, michael moore, good to have you back. you have the president on tape asking, you can say pressuring, georgia's top election official, he is at the time the leader of the free world, asking him to find enough votes to overturn the results in that state. as i understand it, a lot of this depends on intent of the president. what would...
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my boss, secretary raffe raffensperger, his address is out there.house, people coming onto their property. it has to stop. this is elections. this is the backbone of democracy, and all of you who have not said a damn word are complicit in this. >> the point is this. donald trump did not care about the threats of violence. he did not condemn them. he made no effort to stop them. he went forward with his fake allegations anyway. one more point. i would urge all of those watching today to focus on the evidence the committee will present. don't be distracted by politics. this is serious. we cannot let america become a nation of conspiracy theories and thug violence. finally, i want to thank our witnesses today for all of your service to our country. today all of america will hear about the selfless actions of these men and women who acted honorably to uphold the law, protect our freedom, and preserve our constitution. today, mr. chairman, we will all see an example of what truly makes america great. thank you, mr. chairman. i yield back. >> without obje
my boss, secretary raffe raffensperger, his address is out there.house, people coming onto their property. it has to stop. this is elections. this is the backbone of democracy, and all of you who have not said a damn word are complicit in this. >> the point is this. donald trump did not care about the threats of violence. he did not condemn them. he made no effort to stop them. he went forward with his fake allegations anyway. one more point. i would urge all of those watching today to...
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, when he asked secretary raffensperger to find 11,780 votes.ald trump was taped, making a phone call to frances watson, the chief investigator for the secretary of state's office. donald trump made that call, the day after white house chief of staff mark meadows made a surprising visit to georgia, to try to change the outcome of the election. >> chief of staff mark meadows took the extraordinary step of showing up at a signature audit site in georgia, where he met with secretary raffensperger's chief investigator, frances watson, who is supervising that audit process. behind me is a photograph from that visit. third, the day after meadows georgia visit, he set up a call between president trump and frances watson. on the call between president trump and georgia investigator francis watson, the former president continued to push the false claim that he won the state of georgia. let's listen to that part of the conversation. >> you know, it's just we have the most important job in the country right now, because if we win georgia, first of all, if
, when he asked secretary raffensperger to find 11,780 votes.ald trump was taped, making a phone call to frances watson, the chief investigator for the secretary of state's office. donald trump made that call, the day after white house chief of staff mark meadows made a surprising visit to georgia, to try to change the outcome of the election. >> chief of staff mark meadows took the extraordinary step of showing up at a signature audit site in georgia, where he met with secretary...
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raffensperger is set to testify before the committee tomorrow. so too is his deputy gabe sterling and a third republican, arizona house speaker rusty bowers. he also resisted donald trump's efforts to ignore the will of the voters. we will also see what the committee is learning about whether trump was involved in this scheme by his allies to submit phony slates of electors, fake certificates were sent to the national archives as part of the failed attempt to undo joe biden's victory. >> we'll show during a hearing what the president's role was in trying to get states to name alternate states of electors, how that scheme depended initially on hopes that legislators would reconvene and bless it. >> will we see he directed it? >> i don't want to get ahead of the hearing, but we will show his role net. >> the justice department will undoubtedly be watching tomorrow. federal prosecutors are still reviewing the fake electoral college certificates nearly six months after cnn first learned they were investigating. we will also see the personal toll at t
raffensperger is set to testify before the committee tomorrow. so too is his deputy gabe sterling and a third republican, arizona house speaker rusty bowers. he also resisted donald trump's efforts to ignore the will of the voters. we will also see what the committee is learning about whether trump was involved in this scheme by his allies to submit phony slates of electors, fake certificates were sent to the national archives as part of the failed attempt to undo joe biden's victory. >>...
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raffensperger were it to happen again? >> it's a mixed bag.many rise to the occasion. first and foremost, i think what became clear today and what we experienced in michigan is that democracy prevailed in 2020 solely because people of integrity on both sides of the aisle did the right thing and followed the law. and in michigan we basically saw just enough people do that on both sides of the aisle so that we could with stand this scrutiny and what has happened is many of those individuals who certified those accurate election results have since been replaced by people who have said they wouldn't have certified those results. by party officials, republican party officials. so, what's concerning is a lot of the people who stood guard in 2020 won't be there in 2024 and indeed on going efforts to replace me with our election this year and others who stood guard with people who would willingly look the other way or say yes i'll find those votes if indeed the former president were to call and ask for them again. >> what about when you go all the way
raffensperger were it to happen again? >> it's a mixed bag.many rise to the occasion. first and foremost, i think what became clear today and what we experienced in michigan is that democracy prevailed in 2020 solely because people of integrity on both sides of the aisle did the right thing and followed the law. and in michigan we basically saw just enough people do that on both sides of the aisle so that we could with stand this scrutiny and what has happened is many of those individuals...
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. >> secretary raffensperger, you wrote about this in your book. you said "i felt then and still believe today that this was a threat. others obviously thought so too because some of trump's more radical followers have responded as if it was their duty to carry out this threat". tell us what you and your life and daughter-in-law received by way of threats. >> after the election, my e-mail and cell phone was doxed. i was getting texts from all over the country. i got a text. hers came in as sexualized texts which were disgusting. trish and i met in high school. we've been married 40 years now. so they started going after her to put pressure on me. so that happened. and then some people broke into my daughter-in-law's home. my son has passed. she's a widow. she has two kids. so we're very concerned about her safety also. >> why didn't you just quit and walk away? >> because i knew that we had followed the law and the constitution. i think moments require you to stand up and just take the shots. you're doing your job. that's all we did. you know, we f
. >> secretary raffensperger, you wrote about this in your book. you said "i felt then and still believe today that this was a threat. others obviously thought so too because some of trump's more radical followers have responded as if it was their duty to carry out this threat". tell us what you and your life and daughter-in-law received by way of threats. >> after the election, my e-mail and cell phone was doxed. i was getting texts from all over the country. i got a...
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how important is brad raffensperger as a witness tomorrow?rafensperger is important not only for the witness and the public opinion, because it's in georgia that everything comes to a head an an audiotape. it's been a long time, andrea, since we listened to that tape. i remember the first time i heard it, it was astonishing. it's clear from the tone of the president's comments that he's ultimately threatening and cajoing raffensperger to get engaged. in a crime. and bonnie willis, the district attorney in fulton county is clearly engaged. she's got a grand jury taking testimony right now but there are also possible federal crimes, there's conspiracy to violate federal rights and some very specific charges around failing to count legitimate votes and failing to certify false votes. lots of good information coming from brad raffensperger and his deputy tomorrow. >> and von, former president trump is showing zero signs of regret about the attack. and he's shaming them on the committee and attacking mike pence again in nashville friday. let's wat
how important is brad raffensperger as a witness tomorrow?rafensperger is important not only for the witness and the public opinion, because it's in georgia that everything comes to a head an an audiotape. it's been a long time, andrea, since we listened to that tape. i remember the first time i heard it, it was astonishing. it's clear from the tone of the president's comments that he's ultimately threatening and cajoing raffensperger to get engaged. in a crime. and bonnie willis, the district...
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that you know, brad raffensperger or somebody gave over to the authorities. but you see this constellation of criminal conduct, false electors, false court challenges by rudy giuliani, the weaponization of the department of justice via jeffrey clark, fake electors an attack on the capital, delayed certification. it really is a remarkable constellation of criminal conduct. >> all right, glenn, here's why a lot of people don't buy it. we heard that tape of trump and raffensperger, find 11,000 votes, what was it like, two years ago. and he hasn't faced any consequences. why do you think he will now? >> you know what, steph? nobody can accuse the department of justice of delivering timely accountability. that has been a sticking point for so many of us. so many of the american people who see this criminal conduct, you know, happening in plain sight, in the harsh light of day. that's why these public hearings by the january six committee are really important. they're pulling it together. they are distilling it. they're making it informative, entertaining, and comp
that you know, brad raffensperger or somebody gave over to the authorities. but you see this constellation of criminal conduct, false electors, false court challenges by rudy giuliani, the weaponization of the department of justice via jeffrey clark, fake electors an attack on the capital, delayed certification. it really is a remarkable constellation of criminal conduct. >> all right, glenn, here's why a lot of people don't buy it. we heard that tape of trump and raffensperger, find...
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my boss, secretary raffensperger, his address is out there.have people doing caravans in front of their house, people come on to their property. it has to stop. this is elections. this is the backbone of democracy, and all of you who have not said a damn word are complicit in this. >> the point is this. donald trump did not care about the threats of violence. he did not condemn them, he made no effort to stop them. he went forward with his fake allegations anyway. one more point, i would urge all of those watching today to focus on the evidence the committee will present. don't be distracted by politics. this is serious. we cannot let america become a nation of conspiracy theories and thug violence. finally, i want to thank our witnesses today for all of your service to our country. today all of america will hear about the selfless actions of these men and women who acted honorably to uphold the law and protect the constitution. we will see an example of what truly makes america great. thank you, mr. chairman, i yield back. >> without objectio
my boss, secretary raffensperger, his address is out there.have people doing caravans in front of their house, people come on to their property. it has to stop. this is elections. this is the backbone of democracy, and all of you who have not said a damn word are complicit in this. >> the point is this. donald trump did not care about the threats of violence. he did not condemn them, he made no effort to stop them. he went forward with his fake allegations anyway. one more point, i would...
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brad raffensperger case and point. and then the alternate slate of electors and his scheme that the campaign is also trying to implement and execute, in battleground straits states that the former president lost, in order to bring in a new state slate of electors. but i think from brad raffensperger, he also fits into the scheme and theme that we have seen reoccurring. one of the people who courageously stood up to the former president, even though it was not politically expedient or popular. and essentially refused to do his bidding. in his request to overturn the results of the election. i think that we are also going to see quite a bit of video from potential trump campaign officials. and people who were also looking to try to apply that pressure as well. who were in the states, actually trying to do this crazy witch hunt for these actual affidavits, is with the referred to the mass. to find evidence of election fraud. and, then again, back to the ultimate slates of electors. i'm very curious to see. we don't know y
brad raffensperger case and point. and then the alternate slate of electors and his scheme that the campaign is also trying to implement and execute, in battleground straits states that the former president lost, in order to bring in a new state slate of electors. but i think from brad raffensperger, he also fits into the scheme and theme that we have seen reoccurring. one of the people who courageously stood up to the former president, even though it was not politically expedient or popular....
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witnesses include the georgia republican secretary of state brad raffensperger. today's coverage of the january six committee and all of c-span's coverage is brought to you as a public service. where all of this morning in the cannon house office building waiting for today's january six hearings york began, it is scheduled for about nine minutes from now at 9 pm eastern time. today is questioning will be led by down credit committee member adam schiff. he has represented california's 28 district for 11 terms and also says on the house judiciary committee. he participated in both impeachment proceedings against former president donald trump as an impeachment manager. he was most in attorney and a prosecutor for serving in congress. today the committee will hear from four witnesses, russell bowers, speaker of the arizona house of representatives, brad raffensperger, georgia secretary of state, gabriel sterling, ceo of the georgia secretary of state's office, all republicans. and a former georgia elections department employee who served in a nonpartisan position. to
witnesses include the georgia republican secretary of state brad raffensperger. today's coverage of the january six committee and all of c-span's coverage is brought to you as a public service. where all of this morning in the cannon house office building waiting for today's january six hearings york began, it is scheduled for about nine minutes from now at 9 pm eastern time. today is questioning will be led by down credit committee member adam schiff. he has represented california's 28...
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donald trump is unrelenting in the pressure he's putting on raffensperger. he throws out these ridiculous fraud theories that raffensperger firmly but politely says, mr. president, your information is wrong. and at one point donald trump even seems to threaten brad raffensperger with criminal liability. i'm telling you there's fraud and if you don't act on it you may be committing a crime. it will be fascinating when we hear brad raffensperger testify to give his perspective on that call. but i think that call itself is crucial evidence that the committee and potentially prosecutors will be looking at. >> yeah, i totally agree. we'll be hearing more of that and, wow, i can't believe you went back and listened to all of it. why you are such a great attorney and why we love having you on the show. looking ahead to the supreme court, more opinions expected tuesday and thursday, 18 cases remain. but the spotlight, of course, is on roe v. wade. what do we expect to see this week? >> yeah, pam, so 18 cases left on the docket. they've been releasing four to six opi
donald trump is unrelenting in the pressure he's putting on raffensperger. he throws out these ridiculous fraud theories that raffensperger firmly but politely says, mr. president, your information is wrong. and at one point donald trump even seems to threaten brad raffensperger with criminal liability. i'm telling you there's fraud and if you don't act on it you may be committing a crime. it will be fascinating when we hear brad raffensperger testify to give his perspective on that call. but i...
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we will see brad raffensperger testify about this amazing event. the president of the united states calling up and saying, i need you to find 11,000 more votes. just one more than he needed to win. right? to me, you can infer intent. from that, he wasn't saying please take a look. i think there was a problem here. let's take it to the bottom of this. he was saying finally the exact numbers of votes i need. or you might be in trouble, is when he added. that seems corrupt at its core. otherwise, i do think there was a lot of complexity to bringing a case against donald trump. you have to wonder if the case was -- and he managed to be acquitted, what that would mean for our political discourse. >> i want you all to listen to congressman jamie raskin. in this sound, he's talking about trump's ongoing lack of remorse in the time since the insurrection. take a listen. >> yeah, he essentially said, yes i did it. i would do it again. which is what we've been contending all along, that if you allow impunity for attempts at unconstitutional caesars of power,
we will see brad raffensperger testify about this amazing event. the president of the united states calling up and saying, i need you to find 11,000 more votes. just one more than he needed to win. right? to me, you can infer intent. from that, he wasn't saying please take a look. i think there was a problem here. let's take it to the bottom of this. he was saying finally the exact numbers of votes i need. or you might be in trouble, is when he added. that seems corrupt at its core. otherwise,...
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now raffensperger has continued to be a thorn in trump side. he recently won the georgia primary against shohei hice, former congressman dose by trump. a few weeks ago, raffensperger also testified before a special grand jury investigating possible election interference conducted by trump and his associates. joining me now is katie banner, she's a justice department reporter for the new york times an msnbc contributor. also joining us this former u.s. attorney barbara mcquade, she's a professor at the university of michigan law school and an msnbc legal analyst. thank you both for joining us. some of the best in the business. katie, let's start with you, i want to dig into the pressure campaign placed on state legislatures. you've reported that the justice department is investigating the team of lawyers involved in the alternate electoral scheme. so who are they pursuing, would kind of trouble might they find themselves in right now? >> just a small part of clarification. i wouldn't say the justice department is pursuing these lawyers but we do
now raffensperger has continued to be a thorn in trump side. he recently won the georgia primary against shohei hice, former congressman dose by trump. a few weeks ago, raffensperger also testified before a special grand jury investigating possible election interference conducted by trump and his associates. joining me now is katie banner, she's a justice department reporter for the new york times an msnbc contributor. also joining us this former u.s. attorney barbara mcquade, she's a professor...
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we have that tape donald trump pressuring brad raffensperger.t is going to be enough? >> i think that is enough. if you are asking which of the cases right now, which one is going to send donald trump to prison, that is the case. there is a really neat three year felony in georgia, that donald trump has violated. prosecutors love tape recorded evidence. because you cannot cross-examined it. what is significant though, with those cases, is that when you put in the context of all of the evidence that's the january six committee has uncovered. when you put that together, donald trump has zero defense in georgia. if i had to put my money on one prosecution that is going to go forward here, that will send donald trump to jail, it is georgia. no question about it. the only defense that he has got here is trying to somehow pick up on some ambiguity in the tape, that he did not really mean what he said. but once you look at what he said, trying to get brad raffensperger to come up with extra votes to make him a winner in georgia, and put in the context
we have that tape donald trump pressuring brad raffensperger.t is going to be enough? >> i think that is enough. if you are asking which of the cases right now, which one is going to send donald trump to prison, that is the case. there is a really neat three year felony in georgia, that donald trump has violated. prosecutors love tape recorded evidence. because you cannot cross-examined it. what is significant though, with those cases, is that when you put in the context of all of the...
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especially to raffensperger's role.obb county. >> reporter: this is a place that was a republican stronghold until 2016. clinton won it just by a couple of points. biden won this county handily in 2020. there's quite a mix of voters here. we have been talking to folks across the political spectrum. this is not the sort of scheduled appointment viewing grab your popcorn silence your phone for folks here, especially compared to that first primetime night where it felt more like that. today, people are going to work. one of the women has four kids she's got to take to and from activities. people aren't sitting down necessarily to listen to this. they are following it, especially with their secretary of state in the spotlight. a lot of people i talked to, they are excited to hear directly from him about that experience this this sort of formal setting on the record. everyone i spoke with, democrats and republicans included, said they believe it's worthwhile holding these hearings. it's important to get a record of what happ
especially to raffensperger's role.obb county. >> reporter: this is a place that was a republican stronghold until 2016. clinton won it just by a couple of points. biden won this county handily in 2020. there's quite a mix of voters here. we have been talking to folks across the political spectrum. this is not the sort of scheduled appointment viewing grab your popcorn silence your phone for folks here, especially compared to that first primetime night where it felt more like that. today,...
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he threatens raffensperger if you don't do this, you might be committing a crime. if you look at the full context, it's quite clear what he wants raf raffensperger to find enough votes for trump to win. the district attorney in fulton county, georgia, fani willis is looking at exactly this. >> and elie, yesterday trump got on stage, denied that there was an insurrection, he was denying reality essentially, but we know from the testimony that on january 6th, trump was told that the mob had breached the capitol, but still he went ahead and tweeted this, that pence didn't have the courage to act, and we know based on what we've seen so far how close these insurrectionists came to mike pence when this tweet came out. let's watch. >> vice president pence and his team ultimately were led to a secure location where they stayed for the next four and a half hours, barely missing r rioters a few feet away. >> approximately 40 feet. that's all there was. 40 feet between the vice president and the mob. >> you know, elie, what does this tell us about possible intent on trump's
he threatens raffensperger if you don't do this, you might be committing a crime. if you look at the full context, it's quite clear what he wants raf raffensperger to find enough votes for trump to win. the district attorney in fulton county, georgia, fani willis is looking at exactly this. >> and elie, yesterday trump got on stage, denied that there was an insurrection, he was denying reality essentially, but we know from the testimony that on january 6th, trump was told that the mob had...
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so we expect that brad raffensperger is going to have a lot to share with this grand jury today.of the first if not the first witness that they are going to be hearing from. we expect they are going to hear from a number of other officials from the secretary of state's office as well as the state's attorney general. john? >> sara murray, you are there for us. let us know what you hear. thank you so very much. >>> ukraine declaring victory on the football field, a victory that brings them one step closer to the world cup. this was just incredible the emotional game for that team and that country. >>> plus just days after multiple mass shootings a gunman kills four people at a hospital complex. we have more on the news out of tulsa, oklahoma, next. >>> and queen elizabeth celebrating 70 years on the throne. more than any other british monarch. now her platinum jup lee celebration is under way. we are live at buckingham palace ahead. okay season 6! aw... this'll take forev—or not. do i just focus on when things don't work, and not appreciate when they do i love it when work actually
so we expect that brad raffensperger is going to have a lot to share with this grand jury today.of the first if not the first witness that they are going to be hearing from. we expect they are going to hear from a number of other officials from the secretary of state's office as well as the state's attorney general. john? >> sara murray, you are there for us. let us know what you hear. thank you so very much. >>> ukraine declaring victory on the football field, a victory that...
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the office has audio of trump pressuring raffensperger. we have all heard it, had it for more than a year. what else does she knee? if you or i had made that call, we would be behind bars by now >> what she needs to prove is criminal intent. it is an essential element of any fraud claim. they have two components, bad act and the guilty mind. the bad act is pretty apparent. he was demanding that brad raffensperger find these 11,000 votes. if he general inly believed he won, he could say i thought i had lost more than 11,000 votes. and i was asking him to correct this injustice. that's all i was asking him to do. so she has to find out whether there was fraudulent intent, that he knew he lost and he was demanding that he cheat to say he won. . >> he is nothing if not a crusader and corrector of injustice. the january 6th committee just announced the first big public hearing next thursday, 8:00 p.m. live on this network. the committee has said it will present previously unseen material. how big an impact do you expect these hearings to have o
the office has audio of trump pressuring raffensperger. we have all heard it, had it for more than a year. what else does she knee? if you or i had made that call, we would be behind bars by now >> what she needs to prove is criminal intent. it is an essential element of any fraud claim. they have two components, bad act and the guilty mind. the bad act is pretty apparent. he was demanding that brad raffensperger find these 11,000 votes. if he general inly believed he won, he could say i...
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raffensperger is one of three republicans testifying today. the other two are raffensperger's top deputy, gabe sterling and arizona house speaker rusty bowers who says trump and rudy giuliani called him after the election asking for help to overturn president biden's victory in his state. we're also going to hear from shay moss, a former georgia elections worker. she and her mother were targeted in a debunked voter fraud conspiracy pushed by giuliani, trump and others. moss says she received death threats because of the false accusations. democratic congressman adam schiff will lead today's hearing. last night, he gave a preview of what we can expect during an interview with our rachel maddow. >> you will hear about the pressure campaign directed at state legislators, at state election officials, even at local elections workers, putting their lives very much at risk, and this was i think very unprecedented in u.s. history, this broad effort to overturn presidential election, and you'll see just what the weight of the presidency brought down on
raffensperger is one of three republicans testifying today. the other two are raffensperger's top deputy, gabe sterling and arizona house speaker rusty bowers who says trump and rudy giuliani called him after the election asking for help to overturn president biden's victory in his state. we're also going to hear from shay moss, a former georgia elections worker. she and her mother were targeted in a debunked voter fraud conspiracy pushed by giuliani, trump and others. moss says she received...
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brad raffensperger and gabriel sterling. they stood up to trump's pressure campaign. they obviously received a lot of praise for that, but despite acknowledging that there was no fraud in the 2020 election, both men, still supported voter restrictions and suppression, basically in their state. do you think we should let them off the hook for that? how do you explain it in a broader context of the republican party, that even in these moments where somebody like mike pence set up to the president on january the 6th, and the rest of the time he's been basically bearing his hand in the sand and going along -- before the january 6th insurrection, the big lie, and everything else about january 6th since then. >> i think you raise a dilemma. it's a good point. i think on the other hand, i think that would he did with regards to the 2020 election was brave big. basically, explaining that the elections were free and fair in georgia. i think that where he has none since then, obviously, has been politically expedient. he managed to survive a primary against the trump backed can
brad raffensperger and gabriel sterling. they stood up to trump's pressure campaign. they obviously received a lot of praise for that, but despite acknowledging that there was no fraud in the 2020 election, both men, still supported voter restrictions and suppression, basically in their state. do you think we should let them off the hook for that? how do you explain it in a broader context of the republican party, that even in these moments where somebody like mike pence set up to the president...
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the second thing was the specificity of raffensperger's testimony.e went into specific details about everything that he investigated, saying he investigated every element of the allegations that trump's team brought to him. >> they said there was over 66,000 underage voters. we found there was actually zero. they said there was 200,000 non-registered voters. we found zero. they said there was 266 felons. we identified 74 or less still in felony status. >> he detailed all of the allegations. he talked about the phone call trump made to him, pressuring him to find more than 11,000 votes. the committee today brought up the illegality of what we witnessed on january 6. the justice department needs to be paying attention to what they are presenting, but it's not just the justice department could bring criminal charges. the fulton county d.a. in georgia could very well bring charges herself against the president and againstis allies. right now, there is a grand jury investigation going on. they also heard from raffensperger earlier this month. judy: a very
the second thing was the specificity of raffensperger's testimony.e went into specific details about everything that he investigated, saying he investigated every element of the allegations that trump's team brought to him. >> they said there was over 66,000 underage voters. we found there was actually zero. they said there was 200,000 non-registered voters. we found zero. they said there was 266 felons. we identified 74 or less still in felony status. >> he detailed all of the...
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raf out of office, trump would attack raffensperger and governor brian kemp, but last month both menictorious against trump-endorsed candidates in georgia's primaries. >>> starting this week, covid-19 vaccines will be available to children a cdc advisory committee voted unanimously to recommend vaccines for those 6 months to 5 years old. roughly 18 million children in the united states will be eligible the cdc estimates less than one-third of children ages 5 to 11 have been vaccinated. >>> still to come, from certified lover boy to sad boy house survivor, drake's new album is breaking records. >>> no sunny days. we'll tell you why this "sesame street" is so controversial. so you're getting rid of all your workout gear? honoring it. don't give up the things you love! state farm has options to personalize your policy, so you get a rate that fits your budget. amazing! [raft deflating] be right back. for surprisingly great rates that fit any budget... like a good neighbor, state farm is there. call or click to get a quote today. state farm is there. did you know that febreze air effects
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raffensperger will be the republican candidate for secretary of state in november.by a democrat. >> arizona state representative mark fincham is with us tonight and what a job he's done. >> he's already received the endorsement of donald trump. he has said over and over again that this was a fraudulent election. he's called for decertification. he's got a decent chance to win this primary. if we have people like that in these key positions moving forward i think we are -- we are in danger. >> in pennsylvania the governor appoints the secretary of state, and this is the republican nominee for governor, doug mastriano who was protesting outside the capitol on january 6th. >> as governor i get to decertify any and all machines in the state. and obviously i have my eye on several counties who have machines i believe are part compromised. >> six of the house ten republicans are facing primary challenges this year in states endorsed by trump or energized by him. one has already lost, another appears to eke out a victory. these four face races this summer including liz che
raffensperger will be the republican candidate for secretary of state in november.by a democrat. >> arizona state representative mark fincham is with us tonight and what a job he's done. >> he's already received the endorsement of donald trump. he has said over and over again that this was a fraudulent election. he's called for decertification. he's got a decent chance to win this primary. if we have people like that in these key positions moving forward i think we are -- we are in...