, et cetera, but that's why they wanted to wait for the dna. they were just going to go because we have got this evidence that suggests he was in the same room, they wanted to say we need something else that actually links him. >> he is a lab technician, she is getting her joint md/ph.d. he clean the cages of the rats of this yale lab what is the motive? >> we don't know. there are allegations that they were fighting about the way that some of the mice were being treated, et cetera, but you know in a way, the motive won't than important. meaning, if the authorities have the evidence they say they have, which is the computer records, if there are the scratches, if there is the dna match, et cetera, the motive almost becomes secondary, because if you've got, you know, bloody clothes or you've got hair, et cetera, of his there, then he is going to have some -- >> interesting what the motive is. sort of interested what was going on? >> doesn't make any sense, people say this person never would have done it because of x, y and z. in the end, you fin

, et cetera., ron reagan, your view of afghanistan and what our views should be. >> my view is you don't commit american lives to a mission that you can't define. we can't define what victory in afghanistan really is. defeating the taliban, that's not why we went there in the first place. let me ask you this question. if on september 12th, let's say, afghan -- the situation in afghanistan was as it is now, in other words, osama bin laden in pakistan, a corrupt but nominally pro-western government in power in kabul and the taliban threatening, would that have been a pretext for us to send troops into afghanistan then? i think not. so we have to ask ourselves the question, why are we still there now? now, frank is absolutely right that this is a global problem. but it doesn't follow that there is a central front, therefore, in afghanistan. the central front is everywhere, if you will. and if we want to deprive al qaeda of a base of operations in afghanistan, well, we might just as well deprive them

, et cetera, you're not complete if you don't have a certain product.now that's what the history teaches but it is not capitalism that has failed. it is us that has failed. they say in this history of stuff that we are, are 50 years ago, people felt happier and they say it's because we have more stuff. i think it is because we have less god in our lives. [applause] >> the silence was deafening when these mothers grow silent. when the question is asked how many of you feel things will be better for your kids, think about the tragic proportions of what just happened. they don't feel they can overcome these forces. that's why neighborhood and community is so important, because you can't do it alone. you need to do it in concert with other mothers and other people who believe what you do, because it's so lonely to try to turn back the tide of these forces alone. it is very difficult. it takes a village, doesn't it? >> yes, it does! glenn: how many people thought before -- let's say six months ago, that this was a winnable fight? that your voice would be hea

facebook, et cetera. is the way we get our news, is the looking up to these giant corporations to get the news, is that a thing of the past? is there a point, a tipping point where people are just like, ok, they're not even telling me the truth or what i'm even interested are in and it just implodes? >> well, the paradigm shift is the end of scarcity. it used to be that you could watch one of three networks. you could read one or two newspapers that. has gone by the boards. now, really the consumer is king and queen. they get to decide what kind of information they want, how they want to get it. do they want a long in-depth report? do they want a 140-character tweet? it's their choice. these are all options. what we are starting to get is a marketplace and it's much tougher for the old interests to control it. it is really sort of gone crazy and everyone gets to pick what they want. you're in charge with your clicker, with your mouse. you're your own programmer. you're your own news director. glenn: thank

, et cetera, et cetera, the stock -- >> this is a classic example of how you trade the reaction. that's the trade. guy talked about this months ago. the trade on apple was when steve jobs returned that's when you wanted to cut down your long position. middle of the day, i mean, i had guy in my ear. i was long apple above 174. the minute we heard the announcement that jobs was coming out you had to take some apple off the table. why? because these annual events with apple, they are about surprises. they are not about disappointments. and what was the surprise this year? the surprise really wasn't a momentous product -- the surprise was steve jobs. >> no. we knew that steve jobs was -- that was priced in. >> there was no surprise. they cut prices a little bit. they didn't put enough videos and cameras into the iphones. and i think with apple not only are they a victim of their own success here. i think they're starring to see some cannibalization between products. the ipod and the iphone -- >> they said that. >> -- are starting to wear against each other. that doesn't mean you run

, et cetera. even though you were on the same side in some respects on the issue. do you think the president is adopting a pre-9/11 mentality? i know those are pretty strong words but i believe he is. i believe is he weakening our national reaction. i believe gitmo mirandizing enemy combatants. cutting back on defense. slowing down our nuclear -- it seems to me it's beyond the pre-9/11 mentality. do you feel the same way? >> i don't know, sean. but i think that whether he heeds the advice of seven -- count them seven former directors of the cia to halt this investigation, which by the way, had already been -- had taken place, i think that will be an indicator as to his mentality. sean: by the way, senator, i want to thank you. i know you tried to get water to the farmers in san joaquin valley in california. apparently it was unsuccessful that way. i understand you played along with senator demint. thank you for making the american people aware of this terrible situation. thank you, sean. sean: i c

he has had contempt for religion, et cetera, et cetera.aying, look, if liberals want to raise their kids, and they want to teach them anything they want about homosexuality, that's fine. but there are a lot of parents that have different values. they want to give condom and cucumber demonstrations that's their values. i'm not going to stop them. isn't the issue here that what they're teaching oftentimes valuewise contradicts what parents are teaching? and isn't that morally wrong? >> we are very concerned. and when you look at mr. jennings background, it causes me great concern. and all of this is something that would come up through the senate confirmation process, being able to look at his writings and his speeches and go through those tapes and look at what he has had to say about different issues. because he is in charge of the safe schools, drug-free schools program. and, sean, this is an agency that has a 700-million-dollar budget. and he is one of only two deputy assistant secretaries that are operating and running their own divisio

growth stocks cyclical, et cetera. finally when people are reaching bad ri for performance, they start to come after things that maybe don't make a lot of sense. i've seen moves in stocks that have been 20%, 30%, 40% on the day, number one, and number two, it's questionable whether they have any value. >> you keep pointing out the market is a mirror image of what it was a year ago of the traders were desperate to create performance. now they seem a little more concerned about preserving their performance. >> right. i could see potential scenario where if we had a couple of glitches in this market, if this market started to get some ground, that people who are up 30% or 40% might find that it's necessary to try and seize that performance. >> yet you're not terribly bearish. if the market drops 10% or 15%, you would be interested in buying. give me a couple stocks you would be interested in buying. >> you were talking about goldman sachs, $16 billion bonus pool, well, they're making that money somewhere. i would be likin

you will have a pain in your family, et cetera, et cetera. but, america will stand behind you, if you help us clean up the mess. we need to offer a way out for members of congress. now that we know that this is a plague, that that is the number one thing, some of them are like typhoid mary, some are spreading corruption wherever they can and some doing it intentionally and others can and will find redemption. and feel good about themselves, and their country again and other, others will be those who are not infected fully yet. i had an idea the other night while reading thomas jefferson, man, let's search for the 56 men and women, who will help us refound america. we don't need to transform it, we need to refound it. all of the work they did the hard work, are you smarter than george washington, thomas jefferson, ben franklin, name a person in washington that is a bigger brain than benjamin franklin. you can't, most people don't even know who he is or what he did or the amazing things he did. you are smarter? a patriot to find today, refounde

he has had contempt for religion, et cetera, et cetera.r kids, and they want to teach them anything they want about homosexuality, that's fine. but there are a lot of parents that have different values. they want to give condom and cucumber demonstrations that's their values. i'm not going to stop them. isn't the issue here that what they're teaching oftentimes valuewise contradicts what parents are teaching? and isn't that morally wrong? >> we are very concerned. and when you look at mr. jennings background, it causes me great concern. and all of this is something that would come up through the senate confirmation process, being able to look at his writings and his speeches and go through those tapes and look at what he has had to say about different issues. because he is in charge of the safe schools, drug-free schools program. and, sean, this is an agency that has a 700-million-dollar budget. and he is one of only two deputy assistant secretaries that are operating and running their own division, operating without senate confirmation. y

undocumented immigrants, refugees, legal permanent residents, et cetera. but to talk about americans 36 million. i think we've got a chart that shows how these break out. now if you take a look at that purple slice of that pie there, that's people at $88,000 and above in family income for a family of four. that's 400% of the federal poverty level. >> woodruff: still without health insurance. >> still without health insurance. let's take out that slice of the pie though because it's generally presumed that people with that much income could afford to buy insurance themselves. so if you take away that purple slice of the pie, and you talk about what's left, the blue, the green and the orange, you get about 30 million people distributed across those three categories. and the biggest single category, as you see or at least the significant size category is that blue slice. those are people who are at or below the federal poverty level. $22,000 of income for a family of four this year. and what is underway now is an attempt to put together various modes of cover

things but the bottom line is, for example, we've got his dna, we've got her dna on his clothing, et cetera. whatever it is they have, they can go into court with that. remember, they also have this very advanced research lab where they've got computer records of who was in which room. they've got cameras. so, they'll have a lot of evidence i think beyond just dna. >> he is not talking to authorities right now. and so, from that standpoint, d does that rob them the ability to compare his statements? we hear cases where you said this and said this later. if he says nothing, does that help him? >> well, prosecutors love the get statements. police love to get statements. and defense attorneys hate it. the minute someone hires a lawyer, one of the first things the defense lawyer will often say is don't talk. don't say anything. why is that? for exactly the reason you just said, which is they don't want to have conflicting statements out there. they don't want to say one thing one time and then witnesses, for example, at a trial who minor league offer some conflicting testimony, et cetera. look,

what will he gain monetarily, et cetera?> you know what, that's going to be a difficult question, brooke. we don't know how to measure violations of the constitution. the court went on to say that our fourth amendment, our right toe free from unreasonable searches and seizures is 217 years old. if the justice department doesn't take it to the supreme court, that will be the question for the jury, what is the value of the right to be free from government encroachment? and that's a question that really has never been answered on these kinds of facts. >> who knows if this might trigger an aavalanche of sore civil litigation if it goes through. >> let me respond to that. there were about 70 people affected. only a handful like al kidd brought lawsuits. all of the rest are barred by the statute of limitations, limited in terms of the people affected but in terms of the federal constitution, enormous decision that came out late yesterday. >> very interesting. avery, thank you so much for joining us. >> wonderful to be with you. >>

i think that is attributed to early work and better footwork, et cetera. but it is getting towards the end of the year and the good ones figure it out >> so dave trembley talking about his closer jim johnson. and tonight if the game is on the line you know johnson will be right back in there. one is the number one trait of a loser? you have to have the ability to forget. >> wade davis goes for the rays and mark hendrickson on the mound. he is taking the start of brian matusz. when we come back, rick dempsey's scouting reports on the pitchers. the new mcdonald's bacon and cheese angus third pounder. before taking it on, one must study it first. rushing in unprepared may prove overwhelming... with all that juicy, 100% angus beef. there! you found a point of entry! the bacon beckons like a springboard to paradise. one small bite for man... etcetera, etcetera. angus axiom number 11: bring on the bacon. the astonishing new angus third pounders. all angus. all mcdonald's. ♪ ba da ba ba ba  >> tomorrow night the red s are in town for for the opener of the t

i heard a lot of people say these people are just, you know, astroturf, et cetera, et cetera. who are these people? >> reporter: they are old, they are young, they are black, they are white, they are male, they are females. they are farmers, miners, doctors, stay at home moms, nurses, and for the first time coming out in their lives to have their voices heard. this is as best i can describe it an absolutely grass roots movement and this is an uprising. we are at the beginning of a political movement and they credit you. >> glenn: is this an antiobama or an antidemocrat or an antibig government? >> reporter: well, it is antigovernment. why don't i ask one of them. what is your name, sir? >> kevin. >> reporter: is this an antiobama? or antigovernment? what is this? >> antispending. we are spending like crazy and we have to stop. >> reporter: ma'am, what is your name? is this antiobama, antigovernment, what are we saying? >> progovernment but pro in the way that the people rule. >> reporter: is this about president obama or about something bigger? >> this is about freedom for me

, et cetera. in fact, poor old germans were getting their act together. in a way that we simply failed to do. we caught up again, i think in the 1980's and it was a very interesting period to go through. but let us not fall for this smug sven ration of churchill. there is as pat buchanan said, 1940, a wonderful moment to read about in history. but the rest -- i have got my doubts. thank you. [applause] >> our final speaker, opposing the motion, is richard ovary, professor of history at exodder university and author of 20 books about the second world war, the history of air power and the history of hitler and stalin. most particularly his book "hitler's germany and stalin's russia" and the most recent book, with the did the 1939 countdown to war." richard ovary. well, i have to say it is difficult, with such a distinguished panel. i know you're all dying toe get your teeth into it. but i'm going to -- to round off the debate. now, i thought it would be difficult really but in fact, i heard a lot of

that appears to be behind the move behind lloyds, rbs, et cetera. we do see shares performing particularly well. the wolseley is up by 8%, heating and materials company, the biggest of its kind in the world. and the shares meeting after they came out with the full-year earnings. the profit has fallen hard over 50%, but the company says they see profits improving in 2010 in the second half and they also see stability in the residential home part of the business. they are mitigating the difficult environment. how does it look in germany? >>> well, the post-election bounce is over, becky. at the moment, we are trading lower 0.1%. we're trying to come back at least to the flat line. the mid cap also turned negative and up about 1% object an hour ago. same sort of thing for the tech heading lower. very much in the forefront of nuclear energy, nuclear power stations, something that the new government is, of course, adamant about. they want to continue doing and we do see a bit of a balance in these two stocks. on the other hand, quite a few stocks really

starts to come back and people start to reallocate towards more mature assets, et cetera. so you have to decide if you're in asia, do you invest on the return to the mean? in which case you may want to move out towards the u.s. or do you believe that the asian story is for real and is a momentum-driven trade. i tend to believe that the asian rally does have another leg to it. aside from the dash to trash type that jacob was talking about, which is definitely true, i think that there is a long-term very exciting story for asia and the global rebalancing we've seen is just starting. and i don't see that you're taking too much risk in investing in good quality asian companies. >> pierre, thank you very much. pierre gave, head of asia research from gaveta holdings. and david schmitt, we appreciate it. >>> moving on, finance ministers and central bank governors of the g-20 have called on banks to increase their capital buffers to protect against future failures and losses. meeting ahead of the summit takes place later this month, policy makers agreed that banks should hold on t

, et cetera.fy, who worked with the unions and acorn, is the one now who was instrumental in yosi -- it wasn't just poor little yo-si? >> no, not just poor little yosi. she is the leading white house official on something called serve.gov. if you went there yesterday and put in acorn, you got a list of options where you could volunteer to work with acorn. the white house is continuing -- glenn: is serve.gov say eye i'm going to serve the president? >> that's right. the president has a major initiative to encourage volunteers, which is all well and good, but what you hear from ms. wicks, buffy wicks in this call is, that they are going to use that and channel people into left-wing causes an left-wing groups. that's the troubling thing here. glenn: i've only got 40 seconds here. i need to play spot three, because the wall to the white house looks like it's crumbling now. >> i'm at the office here at the white house. our office does a lot of outreach to communities across the country either by consti

you're the two greatest women in my life, et cetera, et cetera.and i thought it strange, but the attorney showed it to me and i said, oh, okay. >> why would he show that to you? >> i think to, now in hindsight, just aim me in grund's direction because he'd make a great suspect if you're looking for somebody that kidnapped a little girl and did, you know, hid her away or did something. i mean, jesse would be a great suspect. >> and ellie, you're talking about claiming that grund has the key to her car, right? >> that's correct. she said a lot of people had access to that car, and jesse had a key to that car. i guess she's trying to suggest that somebody else may have put a decomposing body in her trunk. >> okay. here she is on the car. >> after the news of the decomposition, the air-samples break the following day, she says, well, jesse had a key to my car. >> uh-huh. >> now, was she trying to suggest that there was a dead body in the back of the car or was she trying to suggest that it could have been caylee in the back of that car? >> i would tak

, et cetera.fy, who worked with the unions and acorn, is the one now who was instrumental in yosi -- it wasn't just poor little yo-si? >> no, not just poor little yosi. she is the leading white house official on something called serve.gov. if you went there yesterday and put in acorn, you got a list of options where you could volunteer to work with acorn. the white house is continuing -- glenn: is serve.gov say eye i'm going to serve the president? >> that's right. the president has a major initiative to encourage volunteers, which is all well and good, but what you hear from ms. wicks, buffy wicks in this call is, that they are going to use that and channel people into left-wing causes an left-wing groups. that's the troubling thing here. glenn: i've only got 40 seconds here. i need to play spot three, because the wall to the white house looks like it's crumbling now. >> i'm at the office here at the white house. our office does a lot of outreach to communities across the country either by consti

no one wants to be called a racist, et cetera, et cetera, but i don't think it's going to work anymore. i don't think people buy into the cries of racism. it is very bad for actual racists problems, but how does the average person respond to it? >> well, people are vick and tired of it. let me say one thing about jimmy carter. i don't think an expresident who is an anti-semmite is qualified to tell people who is a racist or not. you notice on the tape, bin laden praised him because he called jews who are defending themselves against rocket attacks against schoolyards, he called the jews racists. they are. blacks are the human shield of the democratic party, and let me just also say, that this assault is aimed at black people. the inner cities of america are frilled with black people. democrats run those inner cities. if a black person should vote for a republican, then he becomes what in this universe? a race trader -- a race traitor. what other group votes 95% for one party? glenn: when we come back, i want to talk specifically about what do people do to prepare themselves for the ons

it's on the hook to the government for about $100 million plus in loans and guarantees, et cetera. the gao report did say certain businesses are stabilizing. aig, its former chairman is actually centering a restructure plan to the house oversight committee, one that would reduce the government's stake in the firm from 80% to 20%. and also as the government reduced the interest rates, asking aig to pay on the loans issued to aig. fertilizers are active as well. we had negative comments coming out of caterpillar. fertilizer, pressure after potash said the third quarter is at the low of expectations. let's get a check on the nasdaq. >> we've been in a tight range. we have held on to more strengths than anywhere else. biofarm is strong, tech strong. google, 52-week high. pulled back a tiny bit from the high of $498 and change. up 1.2%. dell, we talked about it today. $30 a share. getting into i.t. services. down 4.4%. closer to some of its lower levels. ebay down 0.9%. i want to touch on yahoo! real quick. it has to do with ebay and google. ebay use will google and not yahoo! for its s

, et cetera, and it seems like the same thing that plays out in the book of revelations. are they connected at all, at least in the minds of the 12ers? >> it's a mirror image. there is a lot of similarities, to be sure, but, of course, the difference is that jesus said in matthew chapter 24 verse 14, that this good news, that god loves you and will accept you and forgive you and save you, this good news must be preached to the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end shall come, so followers of jesus christ think they're supposed to bring good news an peace and the messages of salvation through the cross before jesus comes, but the 12ers believe you bring death, destruction and horror and then the end shall come. glenn: so the ayatollah khomeini and the revolution of '79, he said these 12ers are too crazy for even him. what happened, because is ahmadinejad the only one? are there a lot of them? it's my understanding that the government now is full of these people. is that true? >> that's right. well, the ayatollah khomeini, the current supreme leader wa

they said your experts can talk to my experts, so they know what they are saying, et cetera, et ceterahey had a facility. he promptly said you can come and inspect it and have the iaea come and inspect it. we're going to take baby steps. i don't think anything will be resolved in october. but we'll have another meeting in december and hope fully we'll have baby steps moving forward. >> from penn state university, thank you very much, appreciate your time. >> pleasure being with you, alex. >> still ahead, five real life ways you can tell the economy is back on track. we'll show them to you on "msnbc saturday." bill-- why is dick butkus here? i hired him to speak. a lot of fortune 500 companies use him. but-- i'm your only employee. we're gonna start using fedex to ship globally-- that means billions of potential customers. we're gonna be huge. good morning! you know business is a lot like football... i just don't understand... i'm sorry dick butkus. (announcer) we understand. you want to grow internationally. fedex express you want to grow internationally. you were right. these healthy

six, eight weeks before the election, mushroom clouds, missile city london, et cetera, et cetera. know, steel rods, balloons -- gliders that could make it here from baghdad and the trailers full of latrines it turned out. >> and to do it for congress before they're up for re-election. and make them afraid if they vote against this then they're for saddam. >> right. >> and so now flip ahead to 2008, if you don't vote for this bailout, you're against the american people. you want to destroy the teacher's pension fund. i mean, they really -- geez. you know, this is what bugs me, keith. they actually are smarter than you and i. they pull this stuff off. and they get away with it, they get away with murder. here we are a year later. oh, what we need are more regulations. just get the rules back in place and we'll be okay. here we are a year later. where's the rules? and a year from now it won't be anything either, until the people at home decide to say that's it. >> all right, now, is that still capable of happening? because as i mentioned it's 1886 since the santa clara decision, whic

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>> one has to be careful in inferring too much from speech patterns, et cetera, everybody reacts differently, but i would agree with you, the speech sounds very slurred and it strongly suggests alcohol and/or drugs which would cause this kind of slurred speech. i think that we have to learn more about his background, we have to learn more about his relationships with these people who were killed and -- >> i will tell you this, by the way, you asked me just a little while ago, there's a possibility it could have happened overnight, because the phone call wasn't made until morning. so i bet you would say that overnight killings are maybe more possible? >> yes, yes. if you've got people who are sound asleep and you very quickly go, not necessarily producing death with each one as you go from one to two and to number three and four and so on, but sufficient to produce unconsciousness, a degree of immobilization, a degree of lack of alertness, and ability to respond in any way, then you can go back and finish the job. so that will be interesting to see, too. the nature of the injuries, and how th

, et cetera? >> i'm not a big conspiracy theorist. you can debate the word "conspiracy." yeah, it's big. is there a connection? these people have connections through professional associations. yeah. is there somebody sitting at the top of the pyramid directing it? no. >> is it helpful for barack obama to be identified as the victim of the same forces that brought bill clinton to impeachment? is it helpful? >> i think it helps shore up the base, reminds people out there this isn't the first time we have seen this movie before. we have seen a lot of this movie before. organized opposition. >> that's the new phrase, isn't it? >> what, the movie? >> well, i think -- >> at the end of the day, is one of the phrases -- >> yeah. a bridge too far is my favorite. >> let's go to pat -- pat buchanan, your thoughts about this vast right wing conspiracy, which hillary clinton blamed for the trouble her husband got in. i don't buy that. i think he got into his own trouble. they exploited -- obviously ken starr l

, et cetera. our leaders have betrayed us, and we've got to -- we are not going to get to the political promised land in my opinion on till we get w leaders. kelly and conaway, conservative poster, conducted an exit polls on election day this past election. for words, asking people how they felt about the word republican, democrat, conservative, liberal. theost unpopular was the word republican. the most popular was the word conservative. so at our philosophy is well -- and we've been betrayed by th big vernment republicans. we didn't lose these recent elections. it was big government republicans that lost the elections. the number one mistake we made over this year's became conservatis to many times became an appendage of the republican party. and the number one need we have going is we need new leadership. and we just have to have new leadership, mostlyounger leadership. manways we are like the biblical jews who wandered through the generation until the past three seen and we are not been to get

. >> access hollywood every nigh, et cetera, et cetera. we've seen some big names go bust, have to file for bankruptcy. we're on the eve of fashion week here in new york. they are clearly desperate, this big party across new york city last night trying to get people to spend money. are you being hit as hard as everyone else? >> we are. i think that's why the fashion model has to change. designer led brands alone won't work. i think we've got to address the question of who will replace the grand masters lieu langer feld, ralph lauren. armani, people like that. there's a lot of talent out there, but fashion is about change, it's about controversy, and i think we have to introduce change and controversy in a modern world where viral marketing is playing a major, major role. >> when will we start to see the effect of her as a creative consultant? when will we start to see the fruits of that? >> our first fashion show with her involvement is on the 4th of october, in about two weeks' time. >> she's are working with you on designs? >> she's been

social security, veterans care, et cetera, et cetera. what are they really up to?trategists. ron, most people in their right thinking mind. simply trying to appeal to the right wing fringe and get ready for a run in 2012. >> david, right wing, fringe republican. you know, i agree with you. as a lawyer, if you look at article one interesting general welfare clause to me seem very explicit on its face that congress does have the ability to regulate, to lay taxes, and it would seem to me looking at medicare, medicaid interesting united states government has spent trillion of dollars in health care-related expenses. so he is very disgruntle by what president obama is doing but as a lawyer and one observing this, i think they're on the wrong foot here. >> is it wise? this is a pure political question. is it wise politically to make his appeal to the right with this? >> i don't think so, david. i think again, you can take issue and exception with this administration on a wide variety of issues. but going to the tenth amendment and saying these powers are not specifically

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, et cetera. you know, steel rods, balloons. >> lighters that could make it here from baghdad. don't forget the gliders, and the trailers full of latrines. >> all that stuff, to get everybody all, like this, and to do it to congress before they're up for re-election. and make them afraid that if they vote against this -- >> yes. >> -- then they're for saddam. and so now flip ahead to 2008, if you don't vote for this bailout, you're against the american people. you want to destroy the teachers' pension fund! i mean, if they really -- they had -- geez. you know, this is what bugs me, keith, is they actually are smarter than you and i. they pull this stuff off, and they get away with it, and they get away with murder, and here we are a year later. remember that first few weeks, what we need are more regulations, just get the rules back in place and we'll be okay. so here we are a year later. >> nothing. >> where's the rules? and i tell you something, a year from now won't be anything either. >> exact

comprehensive it tries to cover everything from religion to economics, to terrorism to philosophy, et cetera differ from other writers, i have a generally positive view of the role of islam, the religion in these ties. one of the things that is happening in europe, there's no -- immigrants come from much more conservative backgrounds than we do in our modern economies. there are a lot of people who have traditional ideas about family, about women, abortion, gay marriage. the european tendancy is to sort of rub this in the immigrants' faces. dutch show them a video that shows men kissing and women bathing topless on the beach as a way to drive them away. >> paul: modern secular european culture is live and let live. >> that's right. they tend to look at immigrants as backwards. at the same time immigrants don't have a road into mainstream european politics the way a conservative from latin america who objects to abortion say, would find his preoccupieses reflected at the national level so they make their own. they go back islam, have daughters wearing the veil that sort of thing. >> paul: wha

and greenspan keeping the rates too long, the united states for overemphasizing home ownership, et cetera it is not the system itself. brenda: so it is not perfect but cause for celebration, not apology. uncle sam lending a company al gore is behind a half billion bucks to do what? build carlos. but where they are being built. shopping less and saving more. now, that's progressive. call or click today. brenda: talk about green gone wild our own government lending over a half billion bucks to build luxury hybrid cars in again land. the company getting the green is backed by al gore's investment firm. eric, no trouble with that? >> first of all it stinks that al gore is behind it. but think of the five hundred and something million $170 million is for a plant built in detroit which means it will probably be a u.a.w. this stinks all the way around of political pay yellola. brenda: technology always takes seed money. >> you are talking about investment and risk and creativity. that is what had about. most of the money is coming to the united states. this is a god idea. i don't like the fact i

. >> since you go from caravaggio, you know, to cicero, et cetera, is there anything peculiar about your approach to history and art that makes you such a fantastic, you know, sparkling with all sorts of things? [laughter] >> i paid her to say that. [laughter] >> awe shucks. [laughter] >> i'll tell you -- what's your name? what's your telephone number? [laughter] >> i'm joking. i'm joking. [laughter] >> i always -- you know, it came from the amassment of riches, and my friend was doing all this kind of weird analysis. it seems to me when i wanted to write this book about, you know, what daily life was like was on holland and this tiny culture being the richest and the most mighty place in the world for, you know, a brief couple of generations, i thought well, how particularist to do it, it's not just painting but this is a kind of culture that is encouraged on images, on tiles, on wall paper and stamped leather. you cannot do it without actually understanding the purchase and power of images of all kind, not just high art images. and then as the years, you know, went by and i mentioned,

, et cetera.where interrogators went beyond the guidelines. he said they should be left alone. where are you on that question generally speaking? do you think they should be harmless held outside of the line of inquiry or not if they broke even the guidelines set by the administration that left office last january? >> well, generally speaking, you know, we have rules of immunity who we include, who we don't in those investigations. but if there's criminal behavior and the attorney general feels that they should be the subject of that, he has -- i think the investigation will lead him where it needs to. i think he can look at that and then there will be other defenses or other decisions that get into play on that. but they obviously feel there's a real reason to do this investigation, and i think they'll do it in a thorough and fair manner. >> let me ask you about some of the issues before the senate right now that would be coming up right away, that may even be still alive if you become the next s

, et cetera.i was on an airplane yesterday and the person behind me was coughing. i directed the air filter to flow backwards. what advance and counsel do you have for all of us -- i realize we have to cover our mouths and all. if you're on the other side of that, should we be wearing those kinds of protective face masks when the outbreak comes? is that going to be helpful or is that just overboard. >> what i've been told by the scientists is that probably not. masks are really not -- if you are in a caregiver capacity and in a home situation coming in close contact is may provide some protection. basically, no. and if you -- if this continues to present much like seasonal flu and, you know, a number of people get hospitalized with seasonal flu every year, we don't have that kind of rigid, fitted mask protocol under way. so we're trying to balance safety and security. what's most alarming and i think all of you would be great to help with, health care workers right now don't get vaccinated. less t

. >> you guys have been involved in drives late and trying to stop them, et cetera. 3:30 to go. eli manning and giants come out and they already had that look. felt like they didn't know for sure. yes, we're going to score. either a field goal or touchdown and going to take all three and a half minutes in doing it. not that many teams, you call him easy eli. i was impressed with the body language of everybody. came out of the huddle. you can see it. >> when you're prepared, you'll do things like that. you know the time-outs, know where ur on the football field. not in a rush to do anything. you kind of ease into the situation. >> they are a well-coached team. >> he let the clock run out. laying on the ground. looking up at the official, he rhett it get down. didn't jump up to call it. it got before he called it from the ground. that's how relaxed he was. >> i guess if you won the super bowl late like that. what's 105,000 in september. by the way. they called time-out the way wade phillips did it. we discussed this. wouldn't that be the one the kicker would be most nervous. they