i want to talk about joe manchin , he is a disaster for the american public. he is the man behind this scam. this is a coup to defeat joe biden, who is popular against trump. trump is not going to win the election. he was picked by the young people and this is just a way of joe manchin, led by a bunch of rich, right-wing people to hijack the election. host: if it is the case it is effort to reelect president trump, how does joe manchin benefit? caller: joe manchin never cared for anybody else but for him. joe manchin only knows what he is up to. every time a democratic party tried to do something for the common good of the american public, it was mansion who is in the middle. this time, god knows what he is up to. the effect will be it is going to break the democrats and hope that trump can get in. this is a coup to hijack the democratic process in defeat biden. host: you can add your view to the mixed by calling us, texting us or posting on social media. from the new hampshire public radio site, they highlight the fact it was a packed house at the college. sen

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joe manchin is not committed to what he will do in 2024 in any regard. the place he is appearing in new hampshire is somewhere where presidential candidates go. he's going to the new hampshire institute of politics and that's kind of the bread-and-butter spot where you go and talk to people in new hampshire if you are thinking about running for president. certainly, it's no coincidence he's going there. it's interesting the speculation that democrats will be watching closely. host: thank you so much for joining us this morning. guest: my pleasure, thanks for having me. host: 202020 presidential n and recent incidents of cocaine being found in the white house. >> you are the only person

the joe manchins, the robert f.ll in the same bucket, just running to be here with david and i as political commentators or to find an exit ramp. >> david, democrats have been worried for quite some time about the potential for this group, no labels, to play a spoiler role in 2024, splitting the democratic vote, even just enough of the democratic vote, say they take 5% of it for joe manchin, and it would hand the election to trump or desantis. senator bob corker of tennessee said that concern much ado about nothing, saying the last thing that this group wants to do is be known as the group that elected donald trump. what do you think? >> listen, i don't think -- i think senator corker may be underestimating the no labels -- the seriousness of their efforts and undertaking. if you listen to them talk and hear them, you know, they're out to get on every state in the union ballot access, which as you know is no mean feat. if they do so, it will really impact this election. as you noted, this is going to be an extremely

this is more of a political play by joe manchin. >> a political ploy, but if he took that step, whatld that mean? and why should democrats be concerned about it? >> well, democratic candidates should be concerned and they are. we have had some close elections were decided by tens of thoud sands of people spread across the state, and it is the peculiarity of our le electronic vo votes whether it is in wisconsin or georgia, it is going to spell the difference between the high leverage point, and no labels is going to wait and see what develops, but it is a valid concern for democrats. >> we will have to wait to see what happens. thank you, errol louis. >> sure. >>> and now, the global implications of the grain deal in ukraine, and a new alzheimer's drug to slow the progression could be approved this year. you won't overpay for glasses if you shop at america's best. they offer two pairs and a free, quality eye exam starting at just $79.95. i can see from your expression that you find that scking. ...aaaaaaaand, you don't have es. bookn exam today at americasbest.com. was also the first

staff and his wife, joe manchin -- joe manchin of the halls -- >> of the halls. >> and manu raju indo you make of this? >> i'm highly skeptical that he is going to run for president. he knows that the second he takes himself out of the conversation we are not going to be talking about the message he wants to deliver. i do think he has legitimate concerns about the dysfunction in the government, in the country and in congress and he wants to have that message about putting the two differences aside, two parties working together, that's been his message for most of his political career. but will he mount a third-party bid that he knows himself is highly unlikely to be successful, could very well undercut joe biden, could potentially reelect donald trump? that seems highly, highly unlikely to me. now, he also is keeping open the option of running for reelection for the senate for the same reason, the second he decides he wants to retire he is a lame duck and perhaps not as effective in congress. this is a clear calculation. >> i want to read something that dick durbin said ovee weekend

>> it's only a looming disaster if it ends up being joe manchin. ke john and, joe lieberman but none of them pose a threat like joe manchin does. he is a lone warrior of the democratic party, often lumped in with kirsten sinema and others because he bucks the liberal vote in dc but he comes from a different strain, more traditional working class strain of the democratic party, pro energy, patriotic, one that is left behind in washington dc. the question, he will lose the first time to the popular governor of west virginia, does he want to go comfortably away and take over a college in west virginia and spent his last couple years or this anger at the democratic party which is constantly attacked him and demeaned his supporters and constituents enough that he's willing to correct the course by running a third-party candidate. stuart: 47% of voters would consider voting for a third-party candidate next year. i'm a little suspicious of that if they did get on the ballot with 1/3 party. would they really get nearly half the votes? i don't see that. >> i

i appreciate it. >> is that joe manchin i see? you man. thanks for what you are doing. >> bret: president biden there praising senator joe manchin from west virginia. it's time for our "common ground" segment. >> joining us tonight west virginia democratic senator joe manchin and republican former governor from utah and former u.s. ambassador to china jon huntsman. gentlemen, thank you today you headlined this group no labels town hall from new hampshire. senator, you heard that opening there. the president saying you are with him. are you with him or are you going to run against him. >> bret, what we are here today for is to talk about how common sense how do we bring people together? i think everyone is just fed up. enough is enough. the parties have retreated to the extreme right and extreme left. that's what this is about people listening to the people of new hampshire. >> bret: governor huntsman i want to get to the policy prescriptions in this booklet talked about today. what do you say to the people out there who say this no

what does it mean, alex thompson, there's product in joe manchin's hair? >> i asked his person. manchin's hair has been weirdly a bit part of his political personality. he ran ads about how his wife cut his hair in re-election bid. i don't know what's going on. >> split screen. these are the important things we'll dig into. i loved it. it's a weird -- >> i had noticed that, but it is different. that's true. now i'll be reading the tea leaves. maybe he's trying to, i don't know, parted to the left or to the right? i don't know. so shelby, look, the argument -- and they get asked this pretty much every time they talk about no labels. aren't you just going to take away, especially if you don't want trump to be the president, take away from the democrat. there is polling to suggest that people who don't like both parties are more likely if they're given a choice of the two to vote for the democrat. so, how concerned are both parties right now? do you sense more concern on the left or right? >> i think there's definitely more concern on the left, but i will say that trump's campaign i

and so, i agree with basil, i do not know where joe manchin seeks his support in this. hink that joe biden is smart enough to know that he has to manage those to swing the voters in about eight states. he knows that's what he has to do. i don't think he is vulnerable at all the democratic primary, the last polls that i saw a show in 60 or 70 points ahead in this. i think the democrats are smart to shake up the calendar, i don't think that there's any reason for him, just because the state always went first as a caucus or a primary, it should always go first just because it has always been that way. those two debates are some of the most undemocratic demographic in the country. i think that the calendar sets up well for biden and he's martynov to navigate it. >> i am out of time, basil, i apologize because i need to get this in damascus before we go. i need you to really put your republican hat on and give this to me because this is matt. on saturday we heard trump for the second time mention his 200 million number for his supporters that bat is absolutely wrong. why is i

and joe manchin is at the top of the list, why?uest: a couple things unlike esther he is a little more vulnerable this time around. he has not announced that he is running for reelection. his numbers are not fantastic. when you look at the approval ratings, they are not doing too great given his work for [indiscernible] last year. but that is the main thing for mansion right there -- joe manchin right there. and chief justice is running for the group of republicans. he is in really good shape there and one of the voices of the primary challenge. they are feeling really good out there. host: you mentioned that joe manchin might run for president? guest: there has been some chatter. host: is that why he is holding off on announcing a bid? guest: i don't think so. what you here with him is they expected to do this in 2018. 2018 he went until the day before in january and then announced he was running again. they expect the same again. and that lines up with that. most people seem to think that no matter -- no labels and third-party pr

he might have cut a deal with joe manchin. run the third party, you spoil it for the incumbent joe, i get back in the white house, and then i tap you for a cabinet, secretary of energy, secretary of interior. that way then you can kind of ride out into the sunset, you are a hero in west virginia, and you are also really rich. but it does feel like both parties -- i guess -- >> greg: it's called a bribe. >> jesse: that's called politics. that's called a deal. it does seem like the democrats are running too hot and the republicans are running too cold. the democrat win, you've got prosecutors, the media, the intel guys, they are just bloodthirsty, obsessed, trying to kill trump. that is all they care about and the rest of their party is like, can we talk about health care, education, and wages over here? and then there's the republicans that have totally lost any emotion. the whole country is engulfed in flames and they are trying to maintain this air of respectability. you've got b boys and the little girl's room. the former pr

for joe manchin to say he's not going to support joe biden, he has supported his agenda and voted withticular on the inflation reduction act, which not only increased inflation but was also a huge handout to anti-fossil fuel, green energy advocates. that of course goes against what the people of west virginia have when it comes to what they need for their livelihoods. it is interesting he's trying to get away from that record, saying he might not support joe biden, he has certainly voted in lockstep with joe biden on the number of issues. >> john: in terms of who this could hurt, when you look back to 1992, the last big independent campaign with ross perot, he got a percent of the vote that people say handed the election to bill clinton. but he drew from both parties, so maybe that could be the case. if that's the case, with no labels run? >> they might. they have worked when it comes to state-by-state access. if the data shows, they will. but for right now it shows little hurt his chances get reelected. >> john: katie pavlich with the wisdom that the only thing in the middle is roadki

and joe manchin draws more votes to republicans because democrats don't like him. a, and they're angry. republicans, he is an example of someone who is enough of a concern for divorce entrance that they can vote for him. right now, it is 70% of the boat -- >> ross perot. style >> double ross perot. >> he ended up with 17 or 18%. >> 90%. manchin has the potential to do much better than that, and fortunately, it's not ain't no labels party. it truly becomes an independent party. joe manchin runs with the democrat, you create that unity ticket. he is viable. >> when you say hold his hand up the biden isn't enough. enough of what? enough of an economy? enough of interest rates that worked to fight inflation? enough of wage gains? and that's a manufacturing jobs? enough of holding russia to account? what do people want? joe biden is doing those things. i'm not carrying water for joe biden. what is the enough? what do you want joe biden to stop doing? >> and end the partisanship. an end to anger. an end to dismissing what trump voters, not many that watch here, but the id

then the joe that matters, the joe manchin, because joe manchin would doom a joe biden candidates, absolutelyf third-party voters, 2/1 they went to joe biden compared to hillary clinton. my point is third-party candidate could really mess up. than you have a third joe joe exotic, who is running a federal penitentiary who has a better chance of winning the joe manchin, who says if i'm running i'm going to win. >> greg: are you tired of the flirting and the teasing? >> jesse: i'm titillated by it. >> greg: it is content. it is summer. we have to come up with stories. ahead, they tried lox and plexiglass. now liberal cities are resorting to chaining up your ice cream. ♪ ♪ now liberal cities are resorg to chaining up your ice cream. ♪ ♪ what's considered normal for your cat is interesting. but if your cat isn't their quirky self lately, they may have pain from a common condition called osteoarthritis. now, there's solensia. solensia is a once-monthly injection to control your cat's oa pain. veterinary professionals administering solensia who are pregnant, trying to conceive, or breast feeding sho

who is like gullam like in "lord of the rings, mansion is it joe manchin? is it kamala harris? : also watching gavin newsom, young, guy come on sean hannity and we don't have any of that from joe biden. >> kayleigh: we have msnbc swearing that biden is up to the job. take a look at joe. >> the president is very sharp, i talk to foreign leaders that have had conversations with him and said he was on top of every issue. some nato leaders tell me they were surprised the contrast in public and the joe biden behind closed doors because he is so sharp. >> kayleigh: so sharp. >> emily: they can say whatever fiction they want to at that moment, the reality is we see the reality, the stumbling fiction laden president that is commander-in-chief and that continues to make horrible mistakes on air and off. to griff's point, what is interesting to see, as there is clearly a frenzy underneath the still water, curious to see what they do with kamala. biggest elephant in the room, joe decides not to run again and he decides to sever the puppet strings, we are left with kamala, who is equally fr

for me, it is joe manchin. i want to say this. in the u.s., we should not have a two party system. i'm not against a third party candidates, in theory, but not this time. not this party. this is not a party i want to be another. to a party where joe manchin is potentially the presidential candidate, it just seems a little odd. i don't understand why the platform is going to be. make all cars run on coal, or something. also there is a poll in 2020 where joe manchin was the least popular senator in the country. he had an 11% approval rating. i want to remind people, the senate also includes ted cruz. so if voters find ted cruz more appealing than you, then you should probably be reevaluating things. i'm not opposed to a third party, but in theory, i don't think that is the party. and i certainly don't think joe manchin, who is a democrat, i know he doesn't want labels, but he is a democrat, there is a danish to his name. i don't think he should be running as a third party against joe biden. >> i saw what you did there. that not labe

congressman khanna, joe manchin says he's going to take a little time, he's not deciding right now. how seriously do you think he is considering mounting a third-party run? >> i respect senator manchin. we work cooperatively to get the ira passed. i'm hopeful that he will run in west virginia. he can carry that seat. my view is that's what he will end up doing. >> reporter: are you concerned at all, though, that he may mount a third-party run? >> well, look, my concern is with the no labels agenda, let's just be clear what it is because the american people will not embrace it. you've got joe lieberman as the founder, who is the biggest advocate for the war in iraq. both parties have rejected that. you've got them advocating cuts in social security. both joe biden and donald trump are against that. they're advocating for a '90s sentism that hollowed out manufacturing in this country that made our jobs go offshore. john huntsman didn't get more than 1% when he ran for president because people said they wanted jobs in the midwest. joe biden and donald trump are far more in touch with th

and in that kind of environment, joe manchin, some third party, robert f.election -- in 2020 biden won because of the swinging of 44,000 votes in three states. the margins could be much thinner because biden's much less popular than he was in 2020. and if i were the white house, i'd be worried about all of these things including just the possibility of a mishap. because there are a lot of people who are very concerned about his age. >> mayor bottoms, when you talk about the situation, obviously you've got joe manchin and jonah mentions rfk jr. who's running in the primaries. but you've got a green party candidate who's going to be on that final ballot. cornel west. david axelrod was saying he's worried about cornel west. he believes that that could cost biden dearly. you just have to siphon off a few thousand votes in a few states. do you worry that a progressive african american candidate is going to appeal more to black voters who have been cooling to biden in recent polls? we see it in recent polls, support for biden among african americans dropped from

>>> flirting with a third-party candidacy in the presidential race, and will the conservative joe manchin flirt with a possible run? i'm sara sidner with kate bolduan and john berman, and this is cnn "news central." >>> russia's foreign ministry is opening up an official investigation into what it is calling a terrorist act after ukraine made a rare admission that it was behind the attack on the critical bridge in russian-occupied crimea. the bridge is the only link between the land and russia. it has become a vital crossing for russia between crimea and russia and also to provide crimea with all sorts of supply. russia says severe damage to the roadway, but this morning, we have learned that the rail traffic across the bridge is moving. we will get the latest from alex marquardt who is in odessa, ukraine, and what are you learning about the attack and where things go from now? >> well, certainly the question now is how is russia going to respond? they are going to take this very seriously for the reasons that you laid out. the two reasons that it is hugely important logistically, and sym

now, joe manchin has nerves jangling and rumors flying about a possible third-party run. ng a crowd in new hampshire. tonight, manchin will participate in a no labels town hall in new hampshire, appearing alongside republican john huntsman, and they're not the only ones making biden supporters nervous. nbc's vaughn hillyard is in manchester, new hampshire, for us. talk about this no labels event tonight. what are they saying about it, what are democrats thinking about it? >> right. chris, let's just start off with the basic fact that no labels is an organization that has been around for 13 years, but they have never done what they are looking to do right now, and that is build a $70 million effort to put a presidential ticket on the ballot in 2024. they say this is in the situation in which donald trump and joe biden are their respective party's nominees, that they will offer americans a bipartisan ticket, one with a republican and a democrat, and joe manchin, we should be clear has not ruled out joining that potential ticket, and who is he alongside today? he's alongside

no labels is eyeing moderate democrat joe manchin to lead it. is hosting a common sense event featuring the senator in new hampshire, here is how joe manchin reacted. >> it is about the dialogue for common sense, which is hard to have here, find commonality. >> are you ruling out a third party bill? >> i never ruled out anything or ruled in anything, this is strictly a conference we're having. >> harris: gianno caldwell and -- the problem of losing votes at a time like this with all of the headwind, what do you make of what joe manchin just said? >> all this talk about spoilers, my spoiler alert is that a third party will not spoil the chance in 2024. democrats have seen this movie before, we're talking about 2016 and jill stein. democrats know the consequences, did not take it serious lee in 2016, thought hillary clinton was going to beat trump and sat back. 2024 is a different story. you see democrats united behind president biden and third parties will not make a difference. cornel west is talking from the left, but people think best chance w

joe biden. as manchin says, we don't know who the candidates would be and there are a lot of variables at play here. what we know is no labels will likely be on presidential ballots on states across the country. >> what does it say about the idea of a no labels ticket, and we don't know who it's going to be yet. but so far what they have put out are two white men. is that who they think really works for the middle of the country, the vast middle of the electorate? >> i'm not sure who they think works for the vast majority of the electorate. obviously these are the two front people as vaughn said for the moment. it is not a group that has suggested a lot of diversity in the people they put out over the years. you know, it's not clear to me how they plan to win. $70 million is a lot of money to get on a ballot. not a lot to win a presidential election. nothing close to winning a presidential election. might be enough to siphon off tens of thousands or a hundred thousand voters in a few of the swing states th

. >> todd: fox news alert, another obstacle could enter the presidential race as senator joe manchin keeps the door open for a third party run. >> i am in races to win, if i get in a race, i'm going to win. >> todd: asking independents how that could impact the election. >> carley: and dr. fauci's -- wants to know why. >> the only retired official i know that gets this treatment is a former president. i have no idea why this bureaucrat has a limo driver, security detail and we want to know, does he still get legal representation? he may need that. >> todd: pays to be a public servant. did you see this, mirandalambert put her concert on pause to call out some fans. ♪ ♪ something falling apart. >> i will stop right here for a second, i'm sorry. [cheering] >> these girls are worried about a selfie and not worrying about the song -- off a bit. >> todd: contemplate no selfie clause. matt, put your phone down, watching "fox and friends first"s, i'm todd piro. >> carley: and i'm carley shimkus. cond cond cond condemning jayapaal. >> todd: -- alexandria hoff has more. in a word, awkward. >>

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they're asking, 'cause they know that i'm very close with joe manchin. and i brought him up to this state a couple of times and he endorsed me. i've endorsed him. - for a senate reelection. - for senate reelection, and i have no qualms, no qualms, providing my endorsement to a democrat who i think has been not only extraordinarily helpful to me and alaskan issues, but in the senate as well. and alaskans are saying, "can you talk joe into running?" that's not for me to do. i do think about what a third party will bring to the equation. we've seen it before on multiple occasions, very wealthy people who had an opportunity to fund their race, who weren't able to cut through. you know, maybe it was just not the right time. maybe now wod be a more opportune time. i think they just don't know. - if he decided to run, would you support him if he decided to run? - i tell you, if it's a matchup between biden and trump, i know exactly where i'd go. i would go with joe manchin. i am o who doesn't like to use my vote for the lesser of evils. i want to be proactive i

west virginia senator joe manchin, the other joe here in washington, who hasn't ruled out running foryear, will headline an event hosted by the organization no labels. if you haven't heard what no labels is, it's a centrist group that could launch a third-party presidential ticket, possibly upending the 2024 election. that's giving some democrats a little heartburn. >> i don't, you know, think no labels is a political party. i mean this is a few individuals putting dark money behind an organization, and that's not what our democracy should be about. i'm obviously concerned about what's going on here in arizona and across the country. >> let's get some perspective now on that and more of today's topical stories. joining us, former white house press secretary during the clint administration joe lockhart, and republican strategist joe high. joe, let me go to you first since we're talking about joes. that's only natural. how do you rate the chances? does no labels have no chance or some chance? and what do you make of what joe manchin is up to? >> well, i mean they have no chance of a thi

not just if joe manchin runs for president, could be a spoiler for joe biden, he would be leaving his behind and republicans need one senate seat to change the majority. >> the reason joe manchin is involved, this is because he knows he won't win election in west virginia again. he is a democrat senator in a very red state, been pulling the wool over everybody's eyes whether he votes with democrats or not. he does 98% of the time. he likes to pretend to be more centrist than he is. the reason more people voted third party in 2020, democrats tried to keep the green party and other viable parties off the ballot, particularly in wisconsin and pennsylvania where they get tens of thousands of votes. so glad people are pointing out rhetoric about being fans of democracy when they're trying to limit people's options. but third parties will be a key player i think in 2024. oddly enough, the media didn't cover any third party candidates in 2020. they wanted to be sure all efforts were put to make sure joe biden was able to win that election. but they won't be able to do it the same in 2024. >>

look, i know joe manchin. he's a colleague in the congress.where his constituency is. and he represents west virginia, a history of coal, a history of carbon pollution in my view, and i think we are in a transition period. 85% of the new projects that are in line for approval our clean energy projects and that's the direction that the american people want to go. look at the impact of climate justice summer. historic flooding in new hampshire and vermont. historic heat all across the southwest. fires that are burning. we have got to reduce carbon pollution. joe manchin knows it and he will be ready to make that transition as well. but i don't believe he'll be running for president. i just think this is a project that is ill informed, ill-timed. i heard him say earlier on the show on cnn that this is early in the process. the let me tell you, new hampshire voters are going to vote for the presidential election for 2024 in six months. it's almost six months to the day. the date will be january 23rd, that's how early in the process for us. this is

i would go with -- i would go with joe manchin. doesn't like to use my vote for the lesser of evils. i want to be proactive in who i think could do the job. i think manchin can do the job. but will our system allow for that? that i don't know. >> should democrats take that possibility of a manchin run more seriously? >> first of all, i don't know anybody who believes senator murkowski. i think she's not being totally honest about that. we know if the question for senator murkowski is between donald trump and joe biden, she will choose not joe manchin, but she will choose to support and prop up donald trump. but democrats do need to be concerned about a third party. we've seen it before. we saw jill stein just recently in the election of donald trump over hillary clinton. we've seen the role that third parties can play. by my warning lights to democrats would not be to be concerned about joe manchin or rfk jr. joe manchin is full of self. rfk jr. is full of things i don't want to say on your show, wolf. my concern would be the couch

it's why they like joe manchin, he's an oil and coal and gas guy. isn't this probably big pharma, big oil, those same polluting industries that would rather have trump because they want to save money? >> we don't know. >> but more likely? >> it's certainly -- ones who give to democrats come from the center. they're not progressives. the ones who are are republican governors, they're down the line republicans. they have supported trump, they have supported kevin mccarthy. they're really, you know, supporting the trump far right project. so there is this idealogical imbalance here. and imbalance is really the key word here. because if you listen to joe manchin and joe lieberman, who was out there today at the town hall, two of these leaders. they go out again and again, and they say we don't like extremism of the left or right. >> and they can't name the left. >> what they do, they're equating joe biden as extreme as donald trump. the guy who tried to overthrow the election and kind of the government, you just did this long segment on, has a whole pla

west virginia senator, joe manchin playing coy about a third party presidential campaign.e. >> i think he's been pushed too far left. he knows that. and we're still friends. we can talk. i just think that basically, and a lot of the ways they're interpreting, and trying to implement places of legislation, they never had the intent of what they're trying to do to make something that was in past. so we have our differences. we have the ability to dialogue, to talk about. it but i think he's been pushed too far to the left. i don't think that's is -- we use as a person. and i think it's a strength to fight back, any. well we'll see. >> okay, let's discuss this. and so much more. with rolling stone columnist, jay michaelson. lee carter and cnn senior political analyst, ron brownstein. great to have you. all, let's talk about his possible third party run for whomever. so we just had governor larry hogan on for formerly a maryland. and he did the math any sort of presented a compelling case that a third of the country doesn't want either democrats or republicans. so why not a th

what does it mean for joe manchin?labels candidate if they get in. here is manchin on running for president. >> we are here to make sure that the american people have an option and the option is can you move the political parties off their perspective sides? they have gone too far right and too far left. if they have another option then they are in trouble if i get in a race i'm going to win. >> brian: joining us now to discuss this is the national director of no labels himself joe cunningham. congressman, great to see you again. you are in studio talking about this. your thoughts now because you guys have said we're going to be a factor but year not going to be a spoiler. what else the difference? >> thanks for having me on, brian, again. jill stein ralph nader candidates last one you brought up possibly the most comparable one ross perot it proved he drew evenly from both sides and resulted in election of bill clinton ultimately if we were to nominate a ticket and get in it, we would be as senator manchin said we wou

i would like to thank joe manchin for standing all this time. he's a friend. joe, how are you, pal? before i begin, let me say a few words about the events in russia. excuse me, i have an allergy. the situation began and developed as it did and i directed my national security team to monitor closely and report to me hour-by-hour. i instructed them to prepare for a range of scenarios. i also convened our key allies on a zoom call to make sure we are all on the same page. it is critical that we are in a chlorinated -- we are chlorinated in our response. they agreed with me to make sure we gave putin no excuse to blame this on the west or nato. we made clear that we were not involved and had nothing to do with it. this was part of a struggle within russian system. i also talked at length with president zelenskiy of ukraine and i may speak to him later today or tomorrow morning to make sure we continue to remain on the same page. i told him that no matter what happened in russia, we the united states will continue to support ukraine's defense and sovereignty and te

so i see this as a dynamic process not limited to joe manchin. ohn huntsman, the republican co-chairman could run. he has run before. manchin hasn't. i see this as a dynamic process, where it goes, harris, time will tell. >> harris: to charlie's point those people have labels. they are clearly democrats and republicans but you call no label. that was an extra point. >> republican and democrat that balances it out. >> they are still oil and water. we'll move on. >> we'll see. >> harris: he is arguably the largest star to hit major league soccer in the u.s. since david beckham and messi got treated like the royal family in miami. excitement is growing bigger ahead of his first game in just days. look at the hugs. we love you. plus, a black diversity director says she lost her job at a woke college after she was asking questions about its inclusion policy. she is in "focus" next. >> america's number ten, the best number ten in the world, messi >> harris: hey, it's messi mania is miami where it is good. a sold out crowd going wild for soccer star mess

i would go with joe joe manchin. i have no qualms, no qualms, providing my endorsement to a democrat who has been extraordinarily helpful to me and alaskan issues and in the senate, as well. i am one who doesn't like to use my vote for the lesser of evils, i want to be proactive in who can do the job. >> trey: all right, so she's kind of making reference to joe manchin and a possible third-party run. i may not hear all the time america is center right country. there are lots of ways to get right of center. you can be there or have two extremes pull as hard as they possibly can. what we're doing now, i don't see a large group of moderate voters like lisa murkowski, i don't see a lot of folks like that. you're an expert, tell me i'm wrong. >> kevin: i think you are right, majority of americans are in the middle, center right or center left and are mostly engaged and we see activity on extreme in mostly primary that decide who represents us in congress. year after year, census after census, competitive flock to red stat

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meanwhile joe manchin of west virginia is not ruling out a run for president next year on a third party ticket. manchin was in new hampshire yesterday with the former republican governor of utah, john huntsman, for a campaign-style event hosted by the organization "no labels." that washington-based advocacy group is looking to recruit a democrat and republican for a bipartisan presidential ticket next year. nbc's vaughn hilliard talked to both men about the possibility of being on the ballot for the highest office in the land in 2024. >> are you considering running for president on the no labels party ticket? >> we're not considering running. >> are you taking anything off -- >> the we're not taking anything off the table. >> how would you consider running for president or not am. >> we're not running. >> it's an outstanding question. >> it'll be for next year. >> for us to do the same old thing would be a little insane. >> could a bipartisan ticket actually work? >> i think eventually there could be that possibility, once the american people are frustrated enough with the status quo th

molly. >> senator joe manchin rather artfully dodged the question whether or not he would head up the third party ticket saying they put the cart before the horse. manchin head lined in the first in the nation primary state of new hampshire alongside former governor of utah. it was hosted by no labels, a political group laying the ground work to support a potential third party unity ticket securing ballot access in five states. both manchin and huntsman spokes with bret baier yesterday who asked about a potential third party bid. >> no timeline whatsoever. we're in a movement and there are so many people that are homeless. when i say homeless i mean politically homeless in america. >> here we are with the people saying in poll after poll will reinforce this. we want something different to break up the gridlock and to get us out of this doom loop that we're in. so we're here together, people are going to speculate. that's okay. >> the polling data you noted backs up what we heard out on the street from real voters, frustration with the current top contenders and willingness to look els

i want to talk about joe manchin , he is a disaster for the american public. is the man behind this scam. this is a coup to defeat joe biden, who is popular against trump. trump is not going to win the election. he was picked by the young people and this is just a way of joe manchin, led by a bunch of rich, right-wing people to hijack the election. host: if it is the case it is effort to reelect president trump, how does joe manchin benefit? caller: joe manchin never cared for anybody else but for him. joe manchin only knows what he is up to. every time a democratic party tried to do something for the common good of the american public, it was mansion who is in the middle. this time, god knows what he is up to. the effect will be it is going to break the democrats and hope that trump can get in. this is a coup to hijack the democratic process in defeat biden. host: you can add your view to the mixed by calling us, texting us or posting on social media. from t new hampshire public radio site, they highlight the fact it was a packed house at the college. senator

this is joe manchin last night. get your response out of this. >> we're here to make sure that the american people have an option. the option is getting the political parties -- they've gone too far right and too far left. if i get in a race i win. >> sandra: he wants to give them another option. they've gone too far right, too far left. does he have a point here, karl? >> well, i think he has a point that the american politics is broken and we seem to be frozen into camps that can never find -- rarely find compromise. i think it would be a mistake to think that what that is talking about is some magic point in the middle. people want sensible solutions that are conservative in some instances and left of center on some instances. so you have manchin, who is a democrat who supported things like the inflation reduction act. if the no labels is going to have a chance to make an impact they better have somebody who is a more traditional republican as a running mate if manchin is the choice. but look, here is the -- let'

third-party possibility in 2024, last night they held an event featuring senator joe manchin. no labels is on in five states, aiming for 50. obvious question, if they do run, they take votes from democrats or republicans? another big number for you, the biden team. for $75 billion. that is the estimated cost over the next ten years of the president's latest student loan giveaway. for $75 billion. on the show today using lionel messy to bring in donations to the presidential campaign the mayor of miami. donald trump and republican primaries, larry kudlow says he's going to win big. tuesday july 18, 2023 varney & co. is about to begin. ♪ ♪ >> twenty over favorites? >> no but i approve of the music. pretty gloomy out there. stuart: it is, but not that much. bank of america and morgan stanley earlier today, take a strip. >> morgan stanley, public down 18% on a deal drop, stock is up a little bit in the premarket, ceo james describes the quarter, it started subdued on activity but ended with constructive tone. his words. there is a deal backlog. wealthy customers and reported recor

breyers. >> the 2024 presidential field could be getting a bit more crowded, that is because senator joe manchinout a third party run next year. the west virginia democrat tells nbc that he is not taking anything off the table. manchin joined former republican governor john huntsman in new hampshire along with the group no label switches laying the groundwork to field a third party presidential campaign. joining us live from manchester, vaughn hillyard. vaughn, he spoke to both manchin and huntsman. not only what did they tell you about a potential 2024 presidential bid, but obviously they are doing something leaning towards that. why are they doing this? >> right, let's lay the groundwork. everybody who is not keen into the labor at this point, it is time to do it. because this is some organization that is finney couple thousand dollars on mailers or campaign flyers, this is a group that is about at its 70 million dollar war chest that they aim to create. that is what this group is, they are the ones behind the problem solvers congress. they're getting involved in presidential politics, it will

throw in a third party or two, not just joe manchin and no label party, but the green party and probably cornel west is their candidate. if they stay on the ballot in key states and able to take a couple points with each third party, that is all the difference is changes the dynamics of the 2024 election. >> ned, do you agree with the angle that democrats are in a biden, a trick box with biden, they can't get rid of him, it is a nightmare with him. either way. >> i agree, they are left and seeing if biden will be able to keep shuffling along until november of 2024 and i think it is 50/50. i'm fully kwned if biden doesn't collapse, if they can keep him going, he will be the nominee. will they be able to keep him going? will they keep this charade going? gavin newsom, michelle obama? i think that is going to be interesting to see where we are in summer of 2024 and where biden is, if he's able to physical lee be a candidate for the 2024 elections. >> i think newsom is pretty slick, he looks slick. he's a smooth talker. i don't know, you talk to people in the sec states, midwest, they love t

joe manchin? joe huntsman? take a listen to our exchange. >> are you taking it off the table? you decide to run? >> i'm not running. it will be next year. >> reporter: could a bipartisan ticket actually work? >> i think eventually there could be that possibility. once the american people are frustrated enough with the status quo that isn't working. that will be driven by the american people. >> reporter: is 2024 that opportunity? >> i don't know. don't know. >> reporter: you can hear it in john level of questioning on his own part. this is a serious operation. we should note. a $70 million effort to get no labels presidential ticket on the ballot. while there are the question marks around donald trump and the criminal trials that await him, at the same time, this is an organization that is dark money operated. we do not know the donors. no labels, is not revealing where their source of income is coming from. >> and you pressed -- >> reporter: i did press him on that. it's a question mark. >> where's this money coming from, and they wouldn't say? >> reporter: that's right, they