should director pierson step down? does president obama think that's the right course of action at this point? >> the president and the white house have confidence in pierson's ability to do this job. we have confidence in the review that she's undertaking about exactly what happened, the incident that you referred to that happened a couple weeks ago. it's something they're taking seriously. they've upped some of the security procedures already. and she's undertaking that review. we're letting that process go forward. the president has confidence that she has the ability to run the department. and to conduct this review. we'll see what comes of that. >> i know josh continues to say the president has confidence in the secret service. i guess the question is why. because lawmakers on capitol hill yesterday who i was speaking with, just a lot of americans, say they're losing confidence. so why does the president still have confidence, particularly when we're just learning about this breach? atlanta that occurred when he w

julia pierson, director of the secret service has resigned.urable weeks heading an agency that nobody believes stands up to its historic legacy. it came last night with the "washington post" report that an

>>> by mid afternoon, julia pierson delivered her resignation to jay johnson. in an interview, pierson said i think it's the best interest of the secret service and the american public if i stepped down. congress has lost confidence in my ability to run this agency. the media made it clear that this is what they expected. the president's family woke up to this headline this morning in their local paper. man with gun was feet from obama. that was the latest in a series of stunning revelations by "the washington post." this morning's washington post front page was clearly the last straw for the white house. the white house press briefing was delayed three hours today and began immediately after the secret service director submitted her resignation. >> this afternoon, the president had the opportunity to telephone director pierson to express his appreciation for her service to the agency and to the country. director pierson offered her resignation today because she believed that it was in the best interest of the agency to which she has dedicated her career. the s

julia pierson neglected to tell people any of this stuff. i need to mention the post's writer who owns this story and is responsible for these revelations, and in terms of needing a new director of the secret service, i don't think you need much more than a knife-yielding maniac getting over the fence and into the white house. that's clearly all the president needed. the president just learned just hours it was in the press that he was next to a crazy armed felon guy in an elevator weeks zblag we don't know if he was crazy but he was an armed felon in the elevator with the president. the secret service didn't know about his past and the fact he was armed. that is a big national security concern. >> apparently he was acting, if not crazy, he was giddy just to be next to the president and the secret service didn't discover until later when they pulled him aside and were interviewing him and his boss came in to fire him from the local security detail and said hand me your gun and that's when they learned he was armed. they had been the known un

pierson, julia pierson, the director of course, resigned yesterday, telling bloomberg news, quote, if the secret service of the american public if i step down. congress has lost confidence in my ability to run the agency. the media made it clear this is what they expected. officials say -- officials say -- well, i'll tell you. president obama lost faith after learning he shared an elevator last month at the cdc with an armed man with a criminal record. pierson only told president obama moments before it was reported. >> i can tell you, though, that the white house first learned of that incident yesterday afternoon, shortly before it was reported, before it was publicly reported. >> the agency did foot tell the white house about it. he didn't know about it until yesterday. >> until it was reported publicly, that's correct. we've seen recent and accumulating reports raising questions about the performance the agency. and the president concluded new leadership of that agency was required. >> so what we've gotten from sources close to the white house and the secret service is that there

julia pierson, director of the secret service has resigned. it turns out unendurable weeks heading an agency that nobody believes stands up to its historic legacy. it came last night with the "washington post" report that an armed man with a criminal record, an armed man was allowed to ride in the elevator with the president of the united states. that must have been an unchallengeable challenge to miss pierson. a bigger challenge confront as bigger fish. how is the president going to get people to follow him through a dimly lit tunnel. endlessly bad news about a spreading terrorism and a spreading disease. it is now part of a trinity of horrors. ebola which we'll go deeper into the next segment. isis which continues reaching for more territory. a land ruled by the harshest of islamist rule. that's what we're facing with the president. he being out on point. all these crisis have no quick fixes. president obama ran on hope and the new. right now everything new is bad. and this right now is the age of containment and it will require him to come

pierson has been completely transparent with us. >> is her job on the line? >> 9 director of the secret service said this -- >> this is unacceptable. and i take full responsibility. >> she then went on to defensively make excuses for every terrible display of utter incompetence the secret service has given us in their protection of the white house and the first family. she tried to give defensive speeches instead of answers to very simple questions. >> your agency previously had reported an indictment against mr. gonzalez, asserted that he was arrested in that entry area. isn't it true that he actually penetrated the cross hall, the east room, and, in fact, was arrested in the vicinity of the green room. >> referring to your map on the wall, as i have been briefed, mr. gonzalez entered the front double doors. >> ma'am, i want a short answer. i have very little time. >> that was the day that i agreed with darrell issa. that's not the darrel issa i have seen in other hearings. that was darrel issa being perfectly reasonable today and final bly losing patience w

we, obviously, this morning have been focusing on julia pierson.ing some questions. them us a bit about who she is. >> well, julia pierson is the first ever female to head up the secret service with a lot of different facets to her career, which started in law enforcement in the 1980s three years later, she was in the secret service as a special agent, herself, with the miami office. she went on to serve as a four-year student with the presidential protective division. that position does not require senate confirmation. pierson held several different titles throughout her 30-year career and comparing to the last, to her predecessor, it's similar. you know the bicker question i guess you can ask, she was brought in to clean up the frat boy culture. but it looks like everybody who leaves has actually been brought up in that culture. and you wonder about the choice for a lot of reasons, but let's get to the news in terms of what has happened and what we have learned since the case of the white house jumper broke and the hearings began, this then we di

under now former director julia pierson staffing shortages have grown so severe that the agency had to fly in field agents from across the country for two-week temporary details paying their travel, hotel and per diem costs. pierson also rejected an internal recommendation for boosted security around the perimeter of the white house and she regularly accommodated the white house staff wishes for lower security levels over the warnings of her own tactical teams. at one point ahead of the presidential summit with african leaders, the secret service chief reportedly told staff we need to be more like disney world. we need to be more friendly, inviting. today the white house announced a retired secret service agent joseph clancy will officially begin as interim director on monday. he will serve as corporate director of comcast which is the parent company of nbc universal since 2011. is it a new day? don't hold your breath. according to one longtime agent, chancy is one of the most genteel guys, but he doesn't like conflict. they need to clean house, he is not the guy to do it. joining me n

director julia pierson admits agents did not follow protocol. >> i don't sense from you, director pierson, a sense of outrage about that. >> i wish to god you -- you protected the white house like you're protecting your reputation here today. >> reporter: omar gonzalez is in court today facing three counts for jumping the fence and making it all the way into the east room of the white house. initially the secret service said he was stopped just inside the door. >> were you lying to the american people, or were you misled by your own agents about where the intruder was tackled? >> the secret service is conducting an ongoing investigation. >> tremendous restraint is not what we're looking for. the message should be overwhelming force. >> americans know that the next attempt to take the white house may not be by a crazed solo knife-wielding veteran with ptsd. it could well be a planned attack from a terrorist organization. >> reporter: and there's another concern, too, that agents, the rank-and-file, may be afraid to speak up to their superiors. director pierson tells congress that is unacce

secret service director julia pierson has resigned following a big hearing regarding the man who jumped the fence and made it well into the white house before being stopped. her replacement will be joseph clancy. this news follows yesterday's heated hearing on capital hill. moments ago the white house press secretary addressed the issue. >> she spent several hours in front of the cameras yesterday answering difficult questions from members of congress. in the context of that interaction she took responsibility for the short comings of the agency she led and she took responsibility for fixing them and that quite simply, i think, is a testament to her professionalism and character. >> president obama called her to suppress his appreciation for her time served in the agency. i want to talk now with congressman cummings. is this the move that had to be made? >> it absolutely had to be made because a culture has developed in the secret service whereby secret service agents feel more comfortable coming before a member of congress and talking about the problems in the secret service and reveal

i know you spoke to katrina pierson about this. just last night, she told a very different story. >> she did. she and other trump campaign advisers that denied the conversation like the one we just heard, they said that didn't take plate. katrina pierson gave me a statement yesterday saying this is all a complete fabrication, stef, by omarosa. but on that tape, you heard katrina pierson speaking of donald trump and this purported "n" word tape and said he said it, he's embarrassed by it. nbc news, we should point out, has not been able to verify the authenticity of that recording. in which donald trump uses the "n" word. and they talked repeatedly about how to handle it. i've been calling katrina pierson, all morning, but no word back yet. between two people who are of compromised credibility. one of whom, omarosa, seems to have evidence to back up at least some of her claims. >> it's like michael cohen all over again, two people without any credibility, but one's got the tapes to prove it. i want to bring my panel in. christine to

after these revelations it seemed that pierson had to go. are you surprised by the avalanche of revelations we've seen coming out of "the washington post" these last few days? >> no, i mean, i think ever since the cartagena incident a couple years ago there's been blood in the water and we've been on a downward spiral from a public affairs and public perception since then. the secret service, to its credit, and i think very important to the mission that they're trying to accomplish is used to operating in an environment where details about incidents are kept confidential. and, unfortunately, this has created an environment where any time anything goes wrong, no matter how large or small, people are rushing out to get it on camera, to talk to reporters and tell folks about why it represents a security breach. >> i understand this correctly. you thing the problem here that this stuff is coming to light? >> i think that creates a challenge. part of the issues over the past several weeks have been, frankly, that the secret service has placed a v

in an interview with bloomberg news, julia pierson said it is in the best interest of secret service and american public if i step down. she went on to say congress lost confidence in my ability to run the agency. the media made it clear that this is what they expected, unquote. yet as we look at this, kristin, just yesterday, white house communications director telling you that the president had full confidence in pierson's leadership, then white house spokesman josh earnest said the same thing, but said this hours later after she resigned. let's listen to that. >> we have seen recent reports raising questions about the performance of the agency, and the president concluded that new leadership of that agency was required. >> so tell us about the change in a manner of hours, point a to point b here. >> reporter: well, the breaking point was the revelation that president obama during a recent trip to atlanta as you pointed out rode in an elevator with an armed contractor who had a criminal history. julia pierson briefed president obama last week about the fence jumper and never mentio

and that sudden resignation of julia pierson. just 18 months after president obama appointed pierson to clean up an agency tarnished by a series of embarrassments including a prostitution scandal, now homeland security secretary johnson says clancy, a veteran of the service, will be the director. for the past three years, he's run security here at comcast, nbc's parent company. secretary johnson also announced that his deputy, not the secret service, will lead an investigation into how a fence jumper was able to force his way deep into the white house earlier this month, wielding a knife. the white house was still defending pierson wednesday morning. but with a growing bipartisan list of lawmakers calling on her to go. by wednesday afternoon, pierson was gone. >> we've seen recent and accumulating reports racing questions about the performance of the agency. the president concluded that new leadership of that agency was required. >> pierson telling bloomberg news she believes her resignation was the, quote, noble thing to do to t

julia pierson was her name. the first female ever of the secret service. her job to restore confidence. she took the job in march of last year. that hardly put an end to the secret service's trouble. every day now, every hour it brings with it a new troubling revelation, but what we already know about the secret service is worrisome enough. a man wearing a cartoon pikachu hat and carrying a stuffed doll of the pokemon character hopped the fence at the white house. he was stopped by secret service. then a week later secret service agents allowed an armed man with a criminal record to ride in an elevator with the president. he aroused the agent's concerns when he wouldn't stop taking video of the president despite being ordered by the agents not to. he had a gun on him in the elevator with the president. a gun. a man jumped the fence and this time made it all the way into the white house. it turns out he was armed with a knife. there were initial reports that he only made it to the portico of the white house. those reports were wrong. he made it all the way

julia pierson, director of the secret service has resigned.able weeks heading an agency that nobody believes stands up to its historic legacy. it came last night with the "washington post" report that an armed man with a criminal

pierson has been transparent with us. it's unfortunate when you have folks that we find out information through the newspapers. after the initial report, with regard to the most recent incident, they didn't mention that he had a weapon on him. nor did he mention how far he was into the white house. >> one of the things i believe in is that if you are going to make progress in any relationship, now i'm talking about the relationship between the public and the secret service, there must be trust. there must be trust at the top. so far i am very concerned about ms. pierson. i went in with an open mind. the more i listened, the more concerned i became. >> it was transferred from the pressurey and some people are suggesting that the elite nature of the core and the reporting of the transparency up and down. it doesn't exist the way it did when it used to be a treasury. that's one thing. the other thing that you are beginning to suggest is should julia pierson resign or be fired? >> we will have to electric at both of those iss

the shooter died of a self-inflicted gun wound is 18-year-old karl pierson. he was targeted a specific teacher. one student is in the hospital after undergoing surgery for the gunshot wound. sit 20 miles south of aurora, where the mass shooting took place in the movie theater and eight miles from columbine high school, the keep of a mass shooting in 1999. ron mott is covering all of this. >> good morning, alex. later today the media will meet with the police again. in the meantime, as you can imagine, a lot of questions of why. why this young man would do this yesterday. police suspect he was out for revenge. >> a repeated scene at an american school. hands on their heads after gunfire erupts inside. >> we heard people coming in, police talking on their radios screaming and surrounding. i didn't hear any of the shots. but it was scary. >> police say 18-year-old karl pierson, a student at arapahoe high school, was looking for a specific teacher. it stepped from an earlier disagreement between the two. >> when the teacher heard this individual was asking for hi

we know that julia pierson, who spearheads the agency, is going to be in the hot seat.is the first question she needs to answer? >> well, she's got to convince people that she deserves to keep this job. i mean, it has been a -- >> is it really on the line? >> well, yes! >> yeah? >> i would say it's really on the line, when someone jumps over the fence, runs all the way in the house and gets this far from the family quarters, there's no one to blame but the head of the secret service, and she is in a very difficult position, after months and months of some sense that maybe things aren't going so well there. >> months, yeah, i mean, even years. this traces back to 2011. >> that's right. >> that stunning report came out of the "washington post" saying it took them four days to come to the conclusion that seven shots had been fired at the white house. so, with that said, what does she need to say? i mean, what can she say at this point? >> well, she needs to say we understand that there is an issue here, we have some very specific ways of solving it, we have figured out exa

here is what representativ pierson had to say in the hous tonight in response to representative lamberth. >> what about the thousands of people who were here tha thursday who you never recognized what about the thousands o people here who your colleague never made eye contact with or smirked at and gave a thumbs u or left it what? about the thousands of peopl who came here saying, we nee to end gun violence? we needed to do something! they were called insurrectionists by the speake of the south what about the thousands o people who marched the streets of nashville and came to the capitol asking that we d something but instead of getting just legislation tha might protect our schools we are saying, put more guns in schools? >> our first guest tonight i democratic congressman maxwell alejandro frost in florida he's a member of the house oversight committee. congressman frost, you are i the house representative because it is school shootings that activated your activism a a teenager the youngest member of the house, i am really eager to ge your reaction to what happened in tennessee tonight

pierson resigns.ms to me like nobody is in charge in the secret service, and there's a culture that really is not very good about informing people when agents see problems. >> you can't have lapses, certainly not in the white house, not with the president and his family. so i think miss pierson did the right thing. she made it possible for us to move forward. clearly there's a need to clean the system up, and we have to take care of it. you cannot have accidents and you can't have luck be the reason the president and his family are safe. >> i am amazed the president would be allowed in an elevator with someone, whoever it may be, that they don't know about, and he happens to be armed, and just happens to have a past record. >> well, i know from over 20 years of experience that any time i have someone visit the white house, not see the president, visit the white house, they have to give all their data. it is amazing to believe someone who has a criminal record could have been in the same elevator. >> i

authorities believe pierson was not targeting her. she merely was in the wrong place at the wrong time. the shooting happened just miles from the columbine massacre back in 1999 and last year's aurora theater shooting that left 12 dead. arapahoe high school will be closed until after the winter break. >>> let's turn our attention to washington. tomorrow the senate will vote on that bipartisan budget plan which easily passed the house last week. with that deal behind them, congressman ryan and senator murray are already looking to what they hope will be the next area of compromise, that would be tax reform. the debt ceiling, finding common ground may not be that easy. >> you are going to demand more for raising the debt ceiling? >> we along with our counterparts are going to meet and discuss what it is we want to get out of the debt limit. we don't want anything out of this debt limit. we're going to decide what we can accomplish out of this debt limit fight. onest proble of the problems is know when it's going to hit. the treasury sec

they have more on pierson and what could have gone wrong. >> he got down in the hallway when a shotgun blast through arapahoe, colorado high school friday. >> my first instinct is to want to defend him. i know that's wrong much it's in defensible what he did. it's horrible what he did. it's hard to process those emotions like that. >> reporter: pierson and redman, co-captains on the speech and debate team were not best friends but he felt close fluff to try to help him. >> speech and debate was his life and the fact he wasn't there crushed him a little bit. made him really tense and angry about that. >> reporter: it had been a stressful fall term for pierson. he grew angry from losing his coveted spot on the team months ago which made the coach, librarian murphy a wanted man. >> karl and murphy did not get along. whatever it was escalated to a death threat. >> his intent was evil. and his evil intent was to harm multiple individuals. >> reporter: police say he stormed into the school heavily armed, prepared to hurt more than one person. as he moved through the library looking for murph

>> hey, hey. >> pierson is heard on the tape saying he said it. she's heard saying he said it. >> anything on -- >> why would the president be -- >> i've worked alongside donald trump for two straight years and never heard him say anything like that. >> reporter: kellyanne conway said she briefed now president trump during the campaign about the rumors of the tape. she says that was her job. we've reached out to mgm studios, mark burnett productions, which owned the "apprenti "apprentice," and they said they won't release unaired material citing contractual obligations. we're at the mercy of omarosa and her timeline of releasing the tapes she has. >> this bitter back and forth raising much larger questions. geoff bennett working the beat today. thank you so much for that reporting. >> reporter: sure. >> and the new interview with kellyanne conway. i want to bring in my fantastic panel. political analyst michael steele. with me for the hour, washington examiner white house correspondent gabby. and "new york times" political reporter ken vogel. than

according to police, karl pierson wrote a message on his arm including one phrase in latin for the die has been cast. he also scribbled a series of numbers and letters which the sheriff's department says corresponds to thely braer and other classrooms near. an indication he may have planned to harm others. pierson was reportedly upset over losing a spot on the debate team and had gone to the library in search of tracy murphy, his debate coach, and the school librarian. pierson's one victim clair davis remains in critical condition this morning. >>> there's a silver lining for one of the victims of april's boston marathon bombing. james costello was severely injured in the blast this spring. he had taken a look at him in a picture in the aftermath. he was burned. his clothes were in tatters. he endured a long, long rehabilitation including skin grafts and procedure to remove nails from his abt men. but that's where he met nurse krista dagastino. while on a cruise for the bombing, the two of them, costello popped the question and she said yes. he said i now realize why i was involved in

representative pierson and senator gutierrez, we all know no covenant and robb elementary, but shin watts, i want to ask you first. you've been organizing voters since 2012. to those numbers in the fox news poll that i just read extensively surprise you? >> they don't. you know, i think we talk about this, so it's a polarizing issue in america but in fact the vast majority of americans have and continue to believe that stronger gun laws make us safer. that the second event amendment can go hand in hand with responsibilities. i think this polling is a very bad news for the gun lobby, but it's very good news for public safety. we have known for a long time that this -- is a life or death issue. and that more and more americans are going to the polls and they're voting on this issue, because they don't believe their families or their communities are safe. and let's make no mistake, what we saw in places like tennessee and other legislatures are run by maga republicans is the fact that there is this toxic stew of gerrymandering, of racism, of gun extremism, and it is ensuring that there are m

he was appointed to the post following the resignation of julia pierson. response from the hill? don't let the door hit you on the way out. >> i am pleased that she stepped down. the secret service needs to be looked at from the top to bottom. if people need to go and i believe there others, they need to go. >> it was the right decision. it's in the best interest of the secret service. >> one thing is for sure. clancy and whoever this permanent successor to come will have tough challenges ahead. >> ralph knows those challenges as the former director of of the secret service and testified alongside pierson tuesday. what should the first order of business be for joseph clancy? >> i think the first order of business needs to be that he needs to continue to look into the events. the one on september 19th with the fence jumper. then equally at the situation at the cdc. to delve into why the failures were made and immediately make whatever correction that is the secret service has the ability to do unilaterally and move on that. then i think joe sort of has the wind at his back and he

plane closes in on toronto airspace, the radar shows a line of violent storms headed straight for pierson airport. >> fierce thunderstorms moving through the airport area. >> a weather alert sends ground crews scramling for cover. >> everything was fine until we got to toronto and approached the city. the pilot came on and said there was a major thunderstorm in toronto and we were going to circling a while before we could be cleared to land. >> after circling for 20 minutes, the alert is lifted and air france 358 is cleared to land on runway 2-4 left. but as the plane begins its final descent, the intense st m storm, the captain and first officer had been trying to avoid is straight ahead. >> the descent was very dark. you could see the rain hitting the windows outside of the plane. >> i kind of thought, oh, maybe we're diverting, maybe i'm not going to be landing at pierson. >> with visibility deteriorating by the second, the pilots are unable to spot the runway ahead. finally at 2 miles out, they see it. >> i cinched my seatbelt a little tighter, because we were probably going to do eit

>> the voices of just in jay pierson and justin jones, he just heard, are exactly what w need in thisthat shooting i nashville, in the wake of 14 mass shootings in our countr this year, 141 i was watching this all unfold this week, and it all made m think of a story that my forme boss, barack obama used to tel a lot. he spoke about the impact of one old lady in greenville south carolina, with a big hat and who reminded him on particularly long day, during particularly the long month on the presidential campaign. believe, me i was there, tha there is still reason for hope >> one voice can change room and if it can can't change a room, it can change a city if it can change a city, it ca change a state if it can change a state, it can change a nation. and if it contains a nation, i contains the world >> that story always stuck wit me, and this week, i reall just couldn't get it out of my head, because my next guest is having exactly that kind of an impact that barack obama was talking about in that clip just in jay pierson, who was expelled from the tennesse state house this week is a pe

the one name that's on the list that the american public might know is katrina pierson.ch involved with the president's re-election issues. what is the committee looking for? >> it's really escalating its investigation into president trump's inner circle by subpoenaing someone like katrina pierson who would serve as a hostile witness. they're looking at the meetings with president trump leading up to the events at the rally where leaders might have discussed some of the things going on there and are really trying to peel back a lot of details about what exactly the president knew was going to happen at these things, and in doing so, they're looking at people like katrina pierson and subpoena lots of documents related to that plans as well. >> you report that committee chair bennie thompson wants to be done by the spring. if that's the case, what is that timeline lookout? what are the steps that lie between now and then? >> we're seeing them ramp things up a lot now. in the next few weeks we're going see a lot come due. next week we will see the very first documents from

katrina pierson, one of the organizers of january 6th rally.campaign spokeswoman for president trump grew increasingly apprehensive after learning multiple activists had been proposed as speakers for the january 6th rally. these included some of the people we discussed earlier in this hearing. roger stone, a long time outside advisor to president trump. alex jones, the founder of the conspiracy theory website info or's. ali alexander, an activist known for his violent political rhetoric. on december 30th, miss pearson exchanged text messages with another key rally organizer about white people and mr. alexander and mr. jones were being suggested speakers as the presidents rally on january 6th. miss pierson's explanation was, potus, and she remarks that the president likes the crazies. the committee asked miss pearson about these messages, and this is what she said. >> so when you say that he likes the crazies, were you talking about president trump? >> yes. i was talking about president trump. he loved people who viciously defended him in public

we have to show our lawmakers that there will be consequences for inaction. >> representative pierson, let me get one more question in to you before i go to senator guterres. let me read you something -- wrote in the new york times today. he wrote, biden talks a lot about the struggle between democracy and authoritarianism. at its deepest level, that struggle between systems that put the dignity of individual souls at the center and systems that operate by the logic of dominance and submission. you met with president biden this week. what do you make of that? >> i believe david brooks is right. we talk about president biden and vice president kamala harris. i believe that they too recognize is that what we're seeing at the legislators is the erosion of our democracy by expelling law makers who you disagree with. now, in montana, silencing those lawmakers who are seeking to advocate for those who have been pushed to the -- and bringing their voice is the center. we are seeing a real scary time in our american history, with the erosion of our democracy and the assault on our democracy i

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frank pierson left his wife, his two children, and five grandchildren.as 87 years old. [ cellphone rings ] the wife. hey, babe. got the jetta. i wiped the floor with the guy! not really. i would've been fine with 0% for 36 months, but i demanded 60. no...i didn't do that. it was like taking candy from a baby. you're a grown man. alright, see you at home. [ male announcer ] the volkswagen autobahn for all event. we good? we're good. [ male announcer ] at 0% apr for 60 months, no one needs to know how easy it was to get your new volkswagen. that's the power of german engineering. >>> and my view is that we should, we should protect the sanctity of life, unborn, and living. and -- or unborn and born. >> that was mitt romney just 13 days ago, telling a republican audience his current position on abortion. that's a long way from the mitt romney who ran for governor of massachusetts, saying he would never, never waiver on keeping abortion safe and legal, because he personally lost someone close to his family after an illegal abortion. mitt romney publicly anno

i reached out to katrina pierson about omarosa's other allegations involving her, and she said it wastotal fabrication. after cbs released that tape i then reached out to katrina pierson again, around 7:30, 8:00 this morning. she's given us an updated statement where, andrea, she says that she said that, the reason she said what they said on the tape was that it was one of the many times she would placate omarosa to move the discussion along "because i was wea weary at her obsession over this alleged tape." so it appears katrina pierson and other campaign advisers are sticking by their assertion that this alleged tape does not exist. but the american people can make up their own minds on where he stands on crucial issues of race and ethnicity. >> we should point out omarosa was the only high level african-american in the entire administration, in the white house staff, and has not been replaced. she was fired in december. ashley parker, you've been writing on these nondisclosure agreements as they apply to white house officials. and omarosa says she did not sign one, despite what was

pierson there like, well we'll decide that. and with mr. jones, they'r like, well, you come back, but you better behave. so, folks, like you said, ali, coming into this conversation, there's a lot more work ahead. not just in mississippi, folks don't get it twisted, this jus eight mississippi. and look for this across the country. >> so, let's talk about that david, what we've seen in th last year, including in th midterm elections, was som outlandish stuff going on in arizona, in pennsylvania, some degree, in georgia in michigan. we just saw some responses t that in wisconsin. your book is about how state legislatures, we have this thing in america, everything i to the states that is no ascribed to the federa government in the constitution make sense but the state legislatures hav been doing some wildly undemocratic things, startin from gerrymandering to passing laws that don't make sense that entirely out of sync with what their own populations want your view is, this is more normal than many of us may b familiar with? >> totally, it's be

we will get representative pierson back. the fact here is that it is the little things that win sometimes. >> that is right. we have to organize against a mass attempts to cut down on voter registration drives and to penalize voter registration groups that are helping to organize the vote and in states like florida. the forces that are trying to suppress the vote, they are planning. the forces trying to suppress the vote or planning so those that want to keep democracy alive have to plan as well. >> let me stop you there. this is the core of the whole thing. there are people that say, i did not look for this fight. i was not looking for donald trump or this autocratic movement. i will vote for my guy and we will be fine. but that is not fundamentally true. there is a fight that has been brought to us and now we are all in the arena. >> now we are all in the arena and it is absolutely crucial that people take this seriously. the horserace discussion in the media has to end. donald trump is very explicit about what he wants to

specifically according to the subpoena issued to pierson, pierson met with then president trump himselfported extensively on the fallout from the january 6th insurrection and joins me now. betsy, this is the second tranche of subpoenas, how would you characterize this group, what does it say about where the investigation is headed? >> this is the january 6th ellipse rally crew. it's the people who ran the stop the steal event that the president spoke at and from which protesters moved to the capitol and attacked the capitol. these people are the connective tissue between trump himself and the crowd that subsequently had, you know, numerous, numerous members break into the capitol and participate in that insurrection. it's the stop the steal crew. i sort of jokingly think of them as the steal stoppers from a wide variety of different parts of the conservative and far right media ecosystem, some folks who are very high profile, katrina pierson is probably the biggest name on this list. she was the top spokesperson for trump's first presidential campaign, and then there's some interesting

all these meetings are taking plays. >> katrina pierson from the trump many campaign. thanks for making time for me. >> great to be here thomas thank you. >>> with donald trump as the gop standardbearer is the republican party on the verge of real unity or mutiny? reaction from hugh hewitt, conservative radio commentator and host, next. or across the globe in under an hour. whole communits are living onars and solasatellites provide earth with unlimid clean power. in less than a century, boeing took the world from seaplanes to space planes, across the universe and beyond. and if you thought that was amazing, you just wait. ♪ dad, you can just drop me off right her i'll take you up to the front of the school. that's where your friends are. seriously, it's, 's really fine you don't want to be seen with your dad? it's..no.. this about a boy? dad! stop, please. oh, there's tracy. what! [ horn honking ] [ forward collision warning ] [ car br] bye dad! it brakes en you don. forward collisiowarning and tonomous emergency braking. avlable on the redesigned passat. fr volkswage

now representative pierson thank you so much for taking the time this morning to have little chat withat local schoo and speaking up for your community. you have now become one of the faces exposing injustice and racism in the tennesse legislature and also in action in tennessee and around th country on gun violence. how does that all feel to you? >> we have to remember tha this started because of tragedy in nashville 39-year-olds were killed three adults at the covenant school in nashville. and the tennessee stat legislator in the republican majority did nothing, and said nothing in the wake of tha terrible incident. and my colleagues and i'm goin to the house to advance this issue about the need for an en to gun violence and the need for us to stop listening to th nra more than we are listening to our people. that led to our expulsion. myself, representative jones and -- johnson. we are in a very terrible an terrifying time as it relate to democracy, and as it relate to the silencing of voices who want to see just gun control >> and today trying to silence you. that is exactly what t

apparently capturing a phone call she had with then campaign spokesperson katrina pierson and senior adviser lynn patton discussing an "n" word tape, something the president has denied and how they could spin it if it came out. nbc news has not been given access to the tape and we do not know what came before or after, but listen. >> i'm trying to find out at least what context it was used in to helps us maybe try to figure out a way to spin it. >> i said, well, sir, can you think of any time that this might have happened and he said no. >> well, that's not true. so -- >> he goes, how do you think i should handle it? i told him exactly what you just said, omarosa, which is well, it depends on what scenario you're talking about. and he said, well why don't you just go ahead and put it to bed. he said it. >> last night on fox news, katrina pierson said that conversation never took places. >> no. that did not happen. it sounds like she's writing a script for a movie. i've already been out there talking about this. that is absolutely not true. i have no sources with that tape. >> she's n

katrina pierson is the national spokesman for donald trump's campaign.trying to sort of sow the seeds of disunity there on the democratic side. not a new political tactic. let me ask you about the poll this morning. there's this new national poll. it is a tightening race between headquarter a hillary clinton and donald trump. 47% to 41%. this is a cbs news/"new york times" poll. another poll this week put trump ahead. from your standpoint, i see it's good news there. let me look inside these numbers with you. this favorable/unfavorable question for both candidates. check this out. each candidate, trump and clinton, over 50% unfavorable. trump just 26% favorable. clinton just 31%. when you look at these numbers, you have to say it looks like voters right now are voting against candidates more than they're voting for candidates when they look at this matchup. >> i think that is fair to say, but i'll also point out in the fox news poll it shows his unfavorables, mr. trump's unfavorables closing the gap already within ten points in a very short period of tim