gun sales was in 2013 that was right after the reelection of president barack obama and after the sandy hook school shooting. but what makes 2020 different than 2013 is not only have we seen the 2nd largest surge in gun sales in u.s. history but a 2nd surge has begun just this month so let's take a look at this the 1st search took place at the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic lockdowns at the same time that millions of americans began raiding stores grabbing up toilet paper and hand sanitizer in fact grabbing all that they could carry millions of other americans began buying huge numbers of handguns shot guns and ammo americans bought about 2000000 guns in march according to a new york times analysis of federal data it was the 2nd busiest month ever for gun sales trailing only january of 2013 just after president barack obama's reelection and the mass shooting at sandy hook elementary school according to monthly sales figures from the f.b.i. in many states estimated sales doubled in march compared with february in utah they nearly tripled and take a look at this in michigan which had on

time we saw this major surge in sales were goes back to 2013 president obama was reelected the sandy hook shooting took place and then there was talk at that time of banning air 50 rifles and we saw this huge surge in gun purchases and ammo purchases because people were rushing out to go ahead and buy these weapons before they became illegal because it was also said dory would ban new purchases anything that you already own is already grandfathered in so you had a huge spike of people going out and buying these what has changed though i think is that over the past couple of years we've had more of these incidents and yet the legislation has not come so i don't think people necessarily feel that same fear what's different here is we have never had the shutdown because of a pandemic as for the n.r.a. i think that they have really gotten beat up since 20122013 have taken a more low profile position because the news and the p.r. that they've gotten has been horrible for them. ben swan thanks so much for breaking all this down for us. my pleasure. and finally virgin galactic announced monday i

then the sandy hook massacre happened and the people said enough. you're killing children, young children in schools with an assault weapon, in the sandy hook massacre. enough. and in that moment, we passed common sense gun safety in the state of new york. record income inequality. people said enough and passed a real minimum wage in this state that went all across the nation. it is a moment for change. is there a moment here? yes. if we're constructive and if we're smart and if we know what we're asking for. it is not enough to come out and say i'm angry, i'm frustrated. ok. and what? well, i don't know, but i'm ngry and i'm frustrateded. and you want what done? you need the answer. well, i want common sense gun reform. ok. what does it look like? here it is. three points. i want to address income inequality. i want minimum wage at $15. free college tuition. what do you want? and then you say here is my agenda. here is what i want. that's what we have to be knowing this moment. the protesters are making a point and most of them are making a smart,

sandy hook, all those years we tried to pass gun safety. do you really need stault weapon to kill a deer. the sandy hook massacre happened and people said enough. you're killing children, young children in schools with an assault weapon in the sandy hook massacre. enough. and in that moment we passed common sense gun safety in the state of new york. record income inequality, people said enough and passed a real minimum wage in this state that went all across the nation. there's a moment for change. is there a moment here? yes. if we're constructive and if we're smart and if we know what we're asking for. it's not enough to come out and say i'm angry, i'm frustrated. okay. and what? i don't know. i'm angry and i'm frustrated. you want what done? you need the answer. well, i want common sense gun reform. what does it look like? here it is, three points. what i want to address income inequality. here is what i want, minimum wage of $15, free college tuition. what do you want? you want to make that moment work, yes, you express the outrage. you

this is this like gun control, ke sandy hook, there was impet tuesday to hav gun control. gridlock is the safe bet. taybe there is something else going on here. you don't have to look polls to know there is impet tuesday in disicts on police reform, you have to look what politicians are going on. the decision by senator mcconnellto schedule tim scott's bill is a real shift on his part. it is a sign that republicans are feeling the heat. think it is possible, not likely, but maybe possible, there is actually bipartisan in an ection year. robert: yamiche you spoke with the family members that have been affected by police do they feel invol enough in these discussions? yamiche: the families that i spoke to with president trump said the president while he seemed sympathetic to their story which includ people being killed by police on the listened to those stories but they feel the president's executive order didn't go. and used platud to the brother of everett palmer w died in a pennsylvania jail. the president said that person must have been a great person. he was a review. t

they were killed at their desks at sandy hook. i thought that would make a difference. i thought that there would be a national conversation about their safety and the memory of those beautiful children who died so senselessly because the person has a gun that gave them the power to kill in mass. then i thought when he opened fire and killed the concertgoers shot at them at random that is when we could sit down and talk about gun safety in america. it was so graphic and horrible and come together for a bipartisan legislation that didn't happen. the president promised to do something and he did it. what happened in the united states senate not even the effort to keep guns out of the hands of people that have no business owning them are convicted felons, people that are mentally unstable and the types of guns that go far beyond any sport or hunting or in many cases even self-defense yet we couldn't even open the conversation on safety in light of those tragedies. a patrolman in minneapolis that his knee on the neck of george floyd and america changed. you see that video t

the best gun safety law in the united states after sandy hook. carpe momentum. the most aggressive renewable energy program and we will be the first with the best criminal justice reform. that is the plan for next week. next week on monday new york city opens and starts phase one. that is great news. you look at the numbers on new york city, they have dropped dramatically. they were at a high of positive testing of 57% and are now down to 2%. you want to talk about a turnaround? this is going to go in the history book. hit and was the hardest 8 days we have gone to a much different place. there is no place in the united states that is gone from where we were to where we are. no state has gone from where we were to where we are. you would be hard-pressed to find a country that went from where we were to where we are. hospitalizations went from 12,000 to 1500. the phase one guidelines start monday, construction, manufacturing, curbside pickup, pursuant to these rules. in-store pickup where curbside is not practical. you are not there to browse and shop. social dis

on august 14, 1776, two days after the brigade arrived in sandy hook, matthew informed his battalionompanies, that they were, to quote cut their hats round immediately and so he the lace, one flap to stand up, and the other two to be down. in other words, they converted their cocked hats which left their faces exposed to the sun into round hats. in addition all guardsmen cut their coats short to light infantry length. the king george top graphical collection at the british library houses a water coat by the gren deer company first battalion brigade of guards that shows the private standing sentinel at the guard's camp in staten island in 1777. as you can see, he sports a broad-brimmed hat and shortened coat. and here is some re-enactors in a reconstruction of that uniform. something similar had happened among red coats already in the war zone. a water color view of the bunker hill area executed in the summer of 1775, by captain thomas davys of the royal artillery positioned three infantrymen in the foreground. the figure at right, either an officer or shot, judging from his sword, we

when the guardsmen arrived at sandy hook in time to join the new york campaign, general william howe directed they operate as a brigade composed of 2 battalions with a grenadier company and 4 battalion companies composing the first battalion and light infantry company and 4 battalion companies making up the second battalion. unlike line infantry regiments, guards, grenadiers, and light infantry remained attached to their parent organization. the foot guards left england in uniforms that aped the style set by the clothing warrant of 1768. the first foot guards issued orders to adopt those standards on november 27, 1770. the coldstream guards on november 17, 1773 and phases for the others. the second on july 11th 1774. because the guards were a law unto themselves and still are their sergeants decorated their close with gold lace just like they're officers, instead of the white lace supported by sergeants in the less exalted regiments in foot. although armies are undoubtedly hierarchical organizations, change often receives its initial impetus along the lower reaches of the chain of co

after the sandy hook massacre, when people saw the madness of an assault weapon killing senseen, we passed common gun reform in this state after decades of trying. inequalityord income -- we had record income inequality, and people said enough is enough. that is when we passed free college tuition. people can change. we have seen that lesson over the past 92 days, as we have been dealing with this coronavirus. 50 days ago, on april 12, we lost 800 people from covid. yesterday we lost 56. 800 to 56. 50 days ago, we had 3000 400 people coming to our hospitals. yesterday we had 191. who did that? who made that remarkable change, that radical change? who made all that progress? the government did it? no. let's be honest. most government leaders denied that covid was a problem. most did not know what to do. or if they didn't know what to do, they did not know how to do it. it was not government. it was weak, the people. we, the people, forced that change. we did it in weeks, literally. of course we can change. our challenge today is to use this moment, use this energy real,uctively and demand p

the pest gun safety law in the united states after the sandy hook massacre. carpe momentum. the most aggressive renewable energy program, and we will be the first with the best criminal justice reform. that is the plan for next week. next week on monday, new york city opens, starting phase one. that is great news. you look at the numbers on new york city, they have dropped dramatically. they were at a high of positive testing at 57%. they are now down to 2%. you want to talk about a turnaround? this one, my friends is going to go in the history book. new york was the hardest hit, and in 98 days we have gotten to a much, much different place. there is no state in the united states that has gone from where we were to where we are. no state in the united states that has gone from where we were to where we are. >> hospitalizations went from 12,down to 1,500. phase one guidelines starts monday. it's construction, it's manufacturing, it's curbside pick up pursuant to these rules. curbside pick up, in-store pick up where curbside ♪ practical. they are prearranged. you are not there

i'm struck with the reminder of gun control aspects happening in the wake of sandy hook and parkland and it still doesn't happen. are you concerned there's going to be a push, but not enough? >> absolutely. this is the result of having senator mcconnell in the senate right now. this is the problem. he has a host of bills on his desk about gun control and police brutality. i have no expectation he will do any of it. that's why i'm excited to know that a man that i personally met in kentucky. charles booker is actually running against mitch mcconnell in kentucky. i'm hoping he defeats him so we can start to get some things done and moving. >> thanks for the chat. i appreciate it. >>> might be the main reason the u.s. has been unable to prevent the spread of coronavirus and it is frustrating dr. anthony fauci. strating dr. anthony fauci. more one of a kind finds. it all ships free. and with new deals every day you can explore endless options at every price point. get your outdoor oasis delivered fast so you can get the good times going. ♪ wayfair. you've got just what i need. ♪ wherever

right after sandy hook. why? because people said enough is enough. people are saying enough is enough again. thee the moment and end systemic injustice inequality. education, health care, housing, policing, criminal justice. city, we of new york did it all based on data and was no political ideology at work here, we talking about a virus. democrat oresn't do republican, liberal or conservative. it is based on facts and we have followed the facts and look at where we are now with our testing results. on sunday, we did 58,000 test across the state. we have the lowest level in the state since march 16. that is a fact. few days, 58,000 tests we did on sunday, 1.2% statewide. saturday, 60,000 tests. friday, 77,000. why aren't we reopening? because these numbers say we can't. there is no ideology, based on the numbers, we can reopen. than anyng more test state in the united states. we are doing more test than any country in the globe per capita. that's why i have confidence saying we can do this. based on yesterday, 58,000 tests, that is a lot of test, tha

they were killed at their desks at sandy hook. i thought that would make a difference. i thought it would be a national conversation about gun safety. the memory of those beautiful little children who died so senselessly. because ael person anti-gun gave them the power to kill them in mass. it didn't happen. and then i thought went gunman and hotel in las vegas, opened fired and again that he converted into an automatic weapon. and he killed those concertgoers at the country-western concert. just a shot at them at random. i thought now that will make a difference. that is the moment when we can sit down and t honestly talk abt the gun safety in america. it was so graphic grade and it was so horrible. the lease we could come together for bipartisan conversation about making america a safer place for the first graders in connecticut and concertgoers in the bed and for of the many other gun and tragedies which we have had in america. it didn'tn. happen. president promised to do something. he didn't. what happened in the united states senate in terms of addressing this issu

our congress could not respond to sandy hook. i believe this should be responded to at the state level, local level. >> before you were second of homeland security, you were senior official at the department of defense. what is your reaction when the president says he is not going to consider changing the names of u.s. military bases, the names of confederate generals who served to oppose the united states. i know this whole issue of c confederate issues in the military is personal to you. >> the answer to this is not simple. the president wants to do this in a very heavy handed way. i was very pleased to see that the cno of the navy and cthe marine corps thought they should ban the confederate flags. i know some are proud of their southern heritage. this is my teenage grandmother. what the confederate flag represents to me and all other descendents of slaves is a sign that my great grandmother should have remained a slave the rest of her life. so the confederate flag is offensive to me and a great many other people. my great gra

after sandy hook, we thought this would finally be the moment of change for gun safety legislation., we thought this would be the moment of change, and congress was unable to act. i think the answer lies with local police departments, mayors, city councils who really take a hard look at how we are recruiting. another aspect of this, which is not necessarily a george floyd murder, but others like eric garner, and of course, either way, i can think of no legitimate reason for a choque old under any circumstance -- under any circumstance. i can think of no legitimate purpose for a chokehold. you look at the incident involving eric garner, for example, i think there is an element of training that could make a difference. teach our nation's law enforcement attack de-escalation. it is incumbent upon a police officer every once in a while to use common sense and say, i am in a life-and-death situation over a package of cigarettes or a counterfeit $20 bill. is it worth it to escalate this encounter to that level because of a counterfeit $20 bill? when i was secretary of homeland, david, i c

right now this country is looking for concrete steps because we don't want what happened after sandy hook when there was a 90% issue with the country that something be done with respect to gun violence and gun control, et cetera, and our legislators did nothing. nothing. >> right. >> i don't think people will stand by for that this time. >> danielle, when you look at the issue raised by what the federal government can do that michael steele just also repeated that a lot of people are asking, the fact is that we had several cities under consent decree, where the justice department had found those cities to have a pattern and practice of police abuse and actually took the policing from them, immediately -- and this was after an investigation, this wasn't just some just picking on certain cities, this is after they looked at the pattern and practice in those cities. as soon as the trump administration came in, they suspended and backed away from those con isn't sent decrees, e though it was the justice department that found the pattern and practice. will this be an issue given now the streng

this isn't like sandy hook because after sandy hook you can blame the republicans controlling the house. blame the republicans controlling the senate, there's just too many. guess what, this will pass in a second in the house. and, mitch, if you'll keep the lights on in the senate chamber and allow an up or down vote instead of killing that up or down vote on chokeholds, it's going to pass. and you know it. and the opposite of that is true, if it doesn't pass, it's all going to be on you. lots of luck with that fella. lots of luck with that. whether you're campaigning in russian or in english over the next several months. do the right thing, mitch. guess what, i know you won't do the right things for the right reasons. just do the right things for the political reasons. and the right thing for the political reason is, let the senate vote up or down on banning chokeholds. >> still ahead on "morning joe," former national security adviser to president obama, susan rice, joins the conversation. >>> plus we'll talk vaccines with dr. scott gottlieb who ran the fda. >>> also ahead lots of pres

how quickly did we forget, you know sandy hook, virginia tech, columbine? how quickly do we say, okay, they don't matter anymore. all lives matter just like the 53 lives that the officers in los angeles won medals for life-saving. all of those lights have mattered now. now my question goes back to it is disheartening. but i can tell you this and i hope the media is captioning it. i hope the media is looking deep and if we talk about funding, i hope they come in and see what the teachers union with leadership. >> laura: i will come if i'm allowed to come, i will come and we will continue the story. thank you for telling your story tonight. keep schools safe, the shooting death in atlanta up next. ♪ as you get older, are you worried about staying sharp and alert? forebrain, from the harvard-educated experts at force factor, contains key ingredients to help boost memory, learning, clarity, focus, and more! rush to walmart and find forebrain, our #1 brain booster, in the vitamin aisle. ♪ >> laura: earlier today the d.a. of georgia former police officer garrett

we have before here before with parkland, with sandy hook and those situations were tipping points as well. frankly, i think as long as you leave it up to our national congress, we're going to be log jammed. i think the solution is city by city, state by state, and hopefully legislatures and city councils can be more productive than our national congress has been in addressing the dire needs of our nation. >> we're seeing people by the hundreds of thousands, if not more. they are gathering in cities all over the country. mr. secretary, thank you for joining us. >> thank you, wolf. >> take a look at this. we got some live pictures coming in of protests in los angeles. huge crowds have gathered in l.a. right now. we'll check in on the very latest. look at that aerial shot. those crowds are continuing to march in l.a. we'll go there, when we come back. hey! lily from at&t here. i'm back and while most stores are open, i'm working from home and here to help. here's a tip: get half-off the amazing iphone 11 on at&t, america's fastest network for iphones. second tip: you can put googly eyes

how quickly did we forget, you know sandy hook, virginia tech, columbine? how quickly do we say, okay, they don't matter anymore. all lives matter just like the 53 lives that the officers in los angeles won medals for life-saving. all of those lights have mattered now. now my question goes back to it is disheartening. but i can tell you this and i hope the media is captioning it. i hope the media is looking deep and if we talk about funding come i hope they come in and see what the teachers union with leadership. >> laura: i will come if i'm allowed to come i will come and we will continue the story. thank you for telling your story tonight. keep schools safe, the shooting death in atlanta up next. woman: my reputation was trashed online. i felt completely helpless. my entire career and business were in jeopardy. i called reputation defender. vo: take control of your online reputation. get your free reputation report card at reputationdefender.com. find out your online reputation today and let the experts help you repair it. woman: they were able to restore

we passed in new york gun control after sandy hook. there's a reform agenda for criminal justice. do you have local district attorneys investigating police abuse of the police departments that they worked with every day in why do you not release the disciplinary record of a police officer who's being investigated for abuse? why you still allow choke holds to be legal in this country? i mean there are obvious reform measures that should have been passed a long time ago. the police are very strong politically in this nation. i understand that. but these reforms are way overdue. >> should there be, should local officials, the mayor, look into the budget for the n wrwpd or should mayors look into the budgets for law enforcement and maybe redirect some of that money toward communities that need it? >> well the number of police we need is a city by city, locality by locality decision. i think it's a legitimate question, point. are we overpolicing. just in terms of personnel. i don't think there's any doubt but that there are abuses within within our system that are not independently inv

right after sandy hook. why? because people said enough is enough. people are saying enough is enough again. seize the moment and end the systemic injustice and inequality in education, health care, housing, policing, criminal justice. reopening of new york city, we did it all based on data and facts. there was no political ideology at work here. we're talking about a virus. the virus doesn't do democrat or republican, doesn't do liberal or conservative. it's based on facts, and we have followed the facts. you look at where we are now with our testing results. on sunday we did 58,000 tests across the state. we're at 1.2% positive, the lowest level in the state since march 16th. that's a fact. over the past -- past few days, 58,000 tests we did on sunday. 1.2% statewide. saturday 60,000 tests 1,ment 3, friday, 77,000 tests and 1.4 and thursday 66,000 tests. why are we reopening? because these numbers say that we can. there's no guess. there's no ideology. based on the numbers we can reopen. we are doing more tests than any state in the united states.

after sandy hook massacre. because people stood up and said enough is enough. that's when change comes. people are standing up and saying enough is enough. now. great. seize the moment. make the change. but literally redesign the police department community by community because the new york city police department is one type of police department. suffolk county will have other issues. erie county will have other issues. buffalo mayor brown, god bless him, he'll have other issues to address. but make them do it now. while we have the moment and we have the energy. and that's how change comes. >> all right. governor andrew cuomo, again, thank you for being with us. and again, we've known each other for years. i won't tell everybody that your father, governor mario cuomo, told me chris was his favorite son and that your oldest daughter said to chris that i'm her favorite tv show. good to be with you, governor. joining me now, let me get serious again, is attorney l. chris stewart, who is the attorney for the brooks family. and civil rights activist rashad robinson

and even though we've been on the precipice of great change in the past, when i think of like sandy hooke thought everything was going to change with gun laws and nothing happened even though president obama had every parent of those 20 children at the rose garden and nothing happened i think this is different. i feel wildly optimistic and i have a sense in my heart that this time it really looks like change might actually happen >> jimmy: good >> so i'm -- i'm feeling very positive >> jimmy: you've been -- you're in l.a. right now, right >> i am. >> jimmy: did you start there, quarantine, or did you end up there? where were you when -- >> no, no. steve martin and i were on tour in the united kingdom. >> jimmy: really >> yeah. in march, president trump got on and said, you know, everyone had to leave in 24 hours from europe and so we frantically, you know, got flights and got back we later -- you know, he left out that although if you're in ireland or the united kingdom, that's fine, or if you're an american citizen but we didn't -- he forgot that part. >> jimmy: how have are you been --

i passed the new york gun safety law right after sandy hook, right, because sandy massacre in connecticutthat moment for change. why after mr. floyd's death and not rodney king? and not shawn bell and not eric garner? i don't know why. maybe it's the cumulative effect. maybe the video was so horrendous in this case, maybe there was just breaking point because of everything that was going on with the isolation of the covid virus. i don't know why this moment. but it was this moment that the people erupted and said something has to be done. fine. now the planets are lined up. reverend sharpton said today, demonstration, legislation, reconciliation. it's not demonstration for the sake of demonstration. it's not protest for the sake of protest. it's protest to make change. what change do you want? and what we're doing in new york is saying, we'll take that moment, we're going to institutionalize it. put that community at the table with that police department and make the changes you want made to restore the trust, what equipment -- what's the use of force policy? what should the staffing rati

right after sandy hook. when did i pass marriage equality? change comes when the people demand it. they're demanding it. finally. let's have a full agenda. let's talk about it, investigation of police abuse. no chokehold. national standard for undue force. let's talk about funding of education and equal funding in education. let's talk about affordable housing, let's talk about a child poverty agenda. let's use the moment constructively. >> you mentioned your father's speech, today we have a tale of two autopsies. . the family of yorj floyd released the results of private autopsy that showed george floyd based on their autopsy died from a asphyxiation. do you believe that the charges against mr. chauvin are appropriate, should they be stronger and do you believe the officers should be charged? >> look, i'm a former prosecutor. i don't like to second-guess prosecutors because they have facts that others don't have. but if they have other facts they should tell us what the other facts are. because we have a video. and everyone saw the video. there are a number of videos. and yes, i t

while the school shootings have continued after newtown, after the tragedy of sandy hook, polls actually change quite dramatically on universal background checks, on red flag laws, on other issues, even on the carrying of the type of -- the purchasing of the type of weapon that was used at sandy hook and so many of these other mass shootings. even though we haven't seen a legislative response yet, there is a change in the american electorate. that will be born out in legislation in the future. and i think we have the same thing here, where we're seeing a change, a dramatic change in attitude, especially among white americans, and that, too, at some point, will be born out in legislation. >> no question about it, yeah. >> go ahead, willie. i'm sorry. >> i was going to say, don't get me wrong, i'm hopeful for that change, and i think we will have that change. as gene says, it is a question of tying that change in public opinion to change in policy. that's the key, not to let this moment slide. >>> coming up next, president trump goes after his former chief of staff general john kelly, afte

the best gun safety law in the united states after the sandy hook massacre. carpe momentum.aggressive renewable energy program. and we'll be the first with the best criminal justice reform. that's the plan for next week. next week on monday new york city opens, starts phase one. that's great news. you look at the numbers on new york city. they have dropped dramatically. they were at a high of positive testing at 57%. they're now down to 2%. you want to talk about a turnaround? this one, my friends, is going to go in the history book. new york was the hardest hit, and in 98 days we have gotten to a much, much different place. there is no state in the united states that has gone from where we were to where we are. no state in the united states that has gone from where we were to where we are. you'd be hard-pressed to find a counted that went from where we were to where we are. hospitalizations went from 12,000 down to 1,500. phase one guidelines starts monday. it's construction. it's manufacturing. it's curbside pickup pursuant to these rules. curbside pickup, instore pickup w

lawmakers in our country would have to make a move, we have been in moments like these before, after sandy hookwhat happened down in florida, that other shooting, and it seems like congress, both republicans and democrats, would come together and pass something, but in the past, it just hasn't happened. so let's see if this time is different, if they can put their words into action. kasie hunt, thank you very much. with me is georgia democratic congressman hank johnson who is a member of the judiciary committee. congressman, thank you very much. let's start there. we have been in these ground-shifting moments before, where we have seen the nation cry out in pain, maybe not to the degree of this, but the nation cry out in pain, and lawmakers promise action and it hasn't happened. is this time going to be different? >> we have seen a similar situation take place in terms of gun violence in the country. and there have been many instances where we thought that we were on the precipice of legislation that would get at the issue of too many weapons in too many hands in america, and it hasn't happened

barack obama after the sandy hook massacre. george w. bush after 9/11. bill clinton after the oklahoma city bombings. f.d.r. during the great depression. not donald trump. in the middle of the busiest intersection of disasters in modern times, president trump on sunday presented himself more as the confronter-in-chief. he denounced the media as fake news and labeled protesters in the street, some peaceful and some not, as radical left anarchists who should be crushed by the national guard. his model was more like richard nixon, who's unyielding war and order stance against the vietnam protesters helped him win the white house in 1968. now the combination of crises has overshadowed even that historically tumultuous year, writes susan page. the moment has underscored the power of the white house as a bully pulpit and the difficulty of any other voice filling the role of national unifier if the president does not. instead on display sunday were america's divisions at a time of death, fear, and violence. the mayor of washington spoke yesterday about the pres

sandy hook was not too long ago and big debate a short time ago was should we arm teachers who wants we are saying let's get the coming out of there, they are bad. now there is different programs cops on theout skirts surge in school shooter. i did not know cops were the problems in school today. steve: they don't want guns. brian: they don't want cops and law enforcement. ainsley: listen to what one of the school board members said. allen our focus needs to be on student achievement. in order for all of our students to achieve they need to be free to trauma. tell that to the guy who comes in with a gun. brian: unbelievable. by the way they will be the first one say where are the cops. so parents better speak up now whether you are democrat or republican. this is what is going on. i have something else. maybe joe biden should speak up which brings us to president obama who yesterday i assume was on zoom or goolg hangout had a chance to do a virtual fundraiser for his running mate. he told everyone don't be over confident that we are going to beat donald trump also how bad donald trum

you can't say i'm concerned that our high schoolers and grammar coolers and remember about sandy hookt the same time cops are the bad guys and bad women. we have got to keep them away. it's a bad signal. you can't have it both ways. that's why this legislation is so important. that's why people have to understand joe biden is not owning up to it. but 50 separate liberal groupings have called on him to defund and to come out stronger against law enforcement because in the 1990s, he was all pro-law enforcement. and a lot of his policies filled up the jails with african-americans. very curious to see how this is going to go. because we know where the president stands and republicans stand. there is a lack of cohesion with democrats that nobody is talking about. ainsley. ainsley: in portland you were mentioning the mayor going to mayor's home. in portland this crowd almost 200 people outside of the mayor's house his apartment complex while he was inside on the phone, virtual conference call with the city council. and they were deciding how they were going to fund the police or defund the

they were killed at their desks at sandy hook. i thought that would make a difference. i thought that there would be a national conversation about gun safety in the member reconcile of those beautiful little children -- in the memory of those beautiful little children who died soencelessly because a person had a -- who died so senselessly because a person had a gun that killed them en masse. it didn't happen. then i thought when that gunman in the hotel in laspku vegas od fire in a gun that he had converted into an automatic weapon and killed those concertgoers at that country western concert, just shot at them at random, i thought, now that'll make a dips. that is -- make a difference. that is the moment when we can sit down and talk about gun safety in america. it was so graphic and it was so horrible. at least we could come together for a bipartisan conversation about making america a safer place for first graders in connecticut, for concertgoers in nevirapine, and for all of the -- in nevada, and for all of the other gun tragedies that we've had in america. didn't