that said, we have reached out to both mark meadows and congressman ralph norman tonight. but thus far we have not heard back. i can tell you that when talking points memo reached congressman norman himself on cell phone this morning, when they reached him and asked about his text calling for martial law, congressman norment told them, quote, it's been two years the. and he asked them to send him a copy of the text message for him to really view. after tp and forwarded norman a copy of the message they said, quote, we did not receive any further response from the congressman. i should also note that some of the texts between mark meadows and members of congress has been reported and some of them have been released publicly by the january 6th investigation which is the entity that obtained them in the first place. but seeing them all in one place at tpm tonight means something. particularly because republicans are about to take power in the house which means they're imminently about to shut down the work of the january 6th investigation. in addition to congressman ralph norm

on january 17th last year, three days before biden's inauguration, congressman ralph norman was texting white house's chief of staff to urge president trump to call out the u.s. military to use the military against civilians. in order to keep trump in power. congressman norman was saiting member of congress when he sent that -- was a sitting member of congress when he sent that. he is still now. ralph norman was just re-elected. he was reelected by a lot, like a 2-1 margin. and marveling about the seditious radicalism of a member of congress, somebody that wants to suspend the constitution and keep their guy in power by force using military force to do it, i mean marveling at some member of congress being that far out there. i mean that, is something we get to do from time to time. but right now knowing this is what ravel norman was advocating to the white house, right, us is spent the constitution, put troops in the street, take power by force. knowing he was advocating that is one thing. knowing that he and his party are going back to congress as the new majority party there for next

and in a text message to mark meadows, 11 days after the january 6th attack on the capitol, ralph norman revealed his total disregard for the constitution by urging this criminal plan. quote, our last hope is invoking martial law. -- that's three days before president biden's inauguration. and that is norman urging martial law. and like most republicans who support that idea, he does not know how to spell that version of the word martial. that is a true believer. ralph norman had no incentive to send that private communication to mark meadows other than firmly believing that that is what should happen. when politicians speak publicly, you are never really sure what they really believe. it is what they say privately that matters. and there is ralph norman, privately saying, that what he really means -- what he really wants to do -- is just throughout the constitution, break every election law in the country, all at once. congressman ralph norman has just been elected for another two-year term in the house of representatives. georgia congressman rick allen has been a republican member of t

ralph norman was trump the chief of staff to urge president trump to call out the u.s. military to use the military against civilians. in order to keep trump in power. congressman norman was a sitting member of congress when he sent that. he is still one now. ralph norman was reelected in south carolina fifth congregga district by a lot by like a 2-1 margin. and marveling about the seditious radicalism a member of congress, somebody wants to suspend the constitution and keep the guy in power by force using military force. to do it. i mean marveling at some member of congress being that far out there, i mean, that's something we get to do from time to time. but right now, knowing this is what he was advocating. take power by force. knowing he was advocating that is one thing. knowing he and his party are going back to congress as the new majority party for next year, that feels like something different. because what are they going to do with the real power when they have it? that text from congressman ralph norman to mark meadows comes to us tonight from reporter hunter w

i have to i want to end on you with this text from ralph norman to mark meadows. we've talked about it before, but i just think let's just put this up. this is ralph norman, congressman, and seeing what's happening so quickly and reading about the dominion lawsuits attempting to stop any meaningful investigation, we are at a point of no return. in saving a republic. our last hope is invoking martial law. please urge to president to do so. dana, who is marshall? >> i had an uncle named marshall, he would've very much approve of implementing martial law. when we're building this coalition we have to add in the coalition of the non speller's. but it shows you that the people who are willing to overthrow democracy have thought it out so thoroughly that they couldn't run the whole process through spell check before texting it to the chief of staff in the white house. thankfully, we have the electoral count act so maybe it will limit some of last times craziness. we can only imagine what they'll come up with next and how they'll spell it. >> right, and we don't even get

i talked to ralph norman, who sent one of the most eye popping texts calling for martial law. and he sort of said that was two years ago, send me the text and i'll get back to you. of course he didn't, you could forget calling for troops to be sent in, right. a lot of members including those that played a real leading role from what we saw from the text, ted cruz, jody hice, jim jordan ghosted us. the people who did respond were the few republicans in the messages who were not among the 147 who voted to object to the election, and they all pointed to that. this also showed in the period leading up to the vote on january 6th, they were playing with fire. >> joe and i joke about the italian guy trying to influence the election, but here it is in the white house. i heard it around the time of the elections. a friend of mine said, why aren't you looking at the italian satellite, a defense contractor living in italy is alleged to have uploaded software to a satellite that changed votes from donald trump to joe biden, that was the theory, and we laugh about it, except here it is bei

ralph norman, matt gates, andy biggs, rosen ddale and bob gibb. these are the ones we know of.y and his allies have expressed optimism that it might take a few times, a few ballots on january 3, the first day of the new congress for him to become speaker. receiving an 11th hour endorsement of trump who says he thinks it's important for those who oppose him to rally behind him. that being what trump said. his allies optimistic. take a listen to what was told to our jake tapper. >> i think we will get there. i'm not budging off my support of speaker mccarthy. you are right to suggest there's no time to waste here. we can't spend all of january mired in this battle. there's work that needs to be done. >> reporter: we're hearing that from mccarthy himself who has said he plans to take this fight for the speaker to the floor. that is what we expect to see, whether he can persuade those five to support him, whether trump's endorsement will change their minds as well. daniella diaz, cnn, washington. >>> over 260 million americans will see temperatures at or below freezing this week in

is (cheers and applause) one of the worst of the bads is south carolina representative ralph norman-- breaker-breaker, 10-4 back door, what's your 10-20, catch you on the flip. he wrote to meadows, "mark, we are at a point of no return in saving our republic! our last hope is invoking marshall law!" okay, invoking martial law means this congressman was calling for military involvement in a coup. again, put him in jail. also, put him through spell-check, because it's "martial law," with a "t." "marshall law" is the new cbs legal drama starring eminem as judge marshall. mathers. which reminds me, watch "marshall law" on cbs, saturdays, at 1:45. right after all-new episodes of "the enforcenator." norman also called out anyone unwilling to overturn the results, texting, "just results, texting, "just because the biased media has call the election?" he right. i can't believe bias mediacaeca! then there's this helpful text from arizona representative paul gosar: "call me, i have some fireworks coming out of arizona early tomorrow. call me anytime, i'm up." "i'm up?" i know arizona is a deser

i'm ralph norman from south carolina.olks i wish all of you in the , media could have seen a notebook of deaths that a retired agent showed us at a podcast. page after page front and back of our young people being killed by fentanyl. and this president says this is not a problem. really? the deaths of our children, our future. it's a problem. not only do we have an invasion to the tune of 15 million before this administration is done. that's five football stadiums every 30 days, folks. five football stadiums being released in this country and being put in different areas all over america. we are all a border state. now. it is time for mayorkas to go. when asked if the border was secure, he said yes. then we said, well, will you define unsecure? he didn't say a word. truth is not in him. the country is at stake. i am proud to join my colleagues to make this front and center stage. it is time for mayorkas to get another job. thank you so much. >> thank you congressman babin biggs for leading this effort, and congressman big

ralph norman, matt rosendale and good are out there knows so we don't know how this will play out butouple -- all right, thank you. republicans in florida are planning to hold a no-confidence vote in our in see chairwoman mcdaniels's vote to become once again head of the are in the sea just days before her own reelection. this coming after the are in see chair faced back lash for poor republican turnout during the midterm elections. a new report detailing what stacy abrams spent her money on during her failed go editorial campaign. how much and what did she spend the money on? lauren: the campaign is one million dollars in debt and raised one hundred million dollars so where did it go? where did it go? they rented this house that is on the market for $12,500 a month, it was like a tiktok type house where they make social media videos except they didn't use it much. it became basically an office. she stopped paying her staffers because she ran out of money to do that and they had a truck that would give out swag like t-shirts and hoodies but she didn't seem to be very well targeted. sh

this is ralph norman, congressman. mark, to see what's happening so quickly and read about the lawsuits attempting to stop any meaningful investigation we're at a point of no return in saving our republic. our last hope is invoking invok martial law. >> when we're building this coalition we have to adin the coalition of the nonspellers, but it shows you that the people willing to overthrough democracy have thought it out so thoroughly they couldn't actually run the spell check on the process before actually testing it to the chief of staff in the white house. thankfully we have the electoral count act, so maybe it'll limit some of last time's craziness but we can only imagine what they'll come up with next and how they'll spell it. >> right, and we didn't get a chance to talk about mark meadows himself. time flies when you're having fun and talking about the chaos in the republican caucus in and the house. thank you all very much for coming to the reid out. and up next on the reid out perhaps the biggest question still

text, sent to meadows just three days before joe biden's inauguration, south carolina congressman ralph norman writes, quote, our last home is invoke marshal law, please urge the president to do so. unclear if meadows responded to that particular message. he did, however, respond to a plan to overturn the election floated by arizona republican andy bigs. after bigs raised claims that a substantial number of illegal immigrants cast pal lots, meadows responded, i like it. the text also show extensive effort business pennsylvania congressman scott perry to have environmental lawyer jeffrey clark installed as a attorney general in the final days of the trump administration. after responding once the text exchange shows meadows ignoring multiple messages from perry. among the messages was a conspiracy theory about an italian defense contractor stealing election for democrats. these texts have not been verified yet by nbc news. and maybe missing some context. nbc reached out to those involved in the messages for their responses. we're going to talk to a reporter who broke the story just ahead on "mo

when message identified as kind from south carolina congressman ralph norman, within just three days before joe biden's inauguration. it reads, in part, this. our last hope is invoking marshall law. police urged president to do so. msnbc's not review these text messages requests for comment has also made to meadows and ralph lauren neither has responded. >> it's been two years and that has to mean a look at it. to pam said after 40 on that particular text i never heard back for the congressman. with that, let's get smarter the help of our lead off panel, we just named co-anchor of cbs news our and msnbc tribute are. luke broadwater, closer prize -winning congressional reporter for the new york times, and andrew, weisman former fbi general counsel and senior member of the weather probe, he's now a law professor and why. you mister wife and i want to start with our breaking kisses tonight. sam bankman-fried, arrested in the bahamas, what are we gonna hear from prosecutors tomorrow and should be expecting the least shipping him back to the u.s.. >> to answer last question, yes, i suspec

there's five republicans or indicating they will vote no, although at least one of those numbers, ralph normanest that perhaps he can negotiate a compromise. but some of those members say there's far more than five for no votes. andy biggs is one of the members who is vowing to challenge mccarthy on january 3rd. he has 31 votes when his party voted to nominate mccarthy for the speakership, last month. that would mean that mccarthy has some room to make up. but in talking to republicans today, there's ample questions about what would come if they don't get to 19 votes. the situation that has not occurred since 1923, when the speakers race what to multiple ballots and the republicans are concerned. that the hard-liners are -- could make a mess of their new republican majority. >> what do you say those members who just said he's not gonna get to attorney team? votes >> they're supporting democrats. they're supporting democrats. -- call others out -- your the definition of a rhino. >> if you have a candidate that can give you two underneath team and get democratic support? >> -- that's, we'd only

we have bob goode and matt rosendale to freshman who joined in this fight and then ralph norman fromouth carolina and some of them are giving different reasons for why they say they would oppose kevin mccarthy. there is different motivations to also take into account those that looking at senate and those looking at personal grievances and those trying to get in touch with the base but as of now only two of them told me they're going to put andy begs and i believe they're trying to come up with other names but they're really not telling us matt rosendale said stay tuned for january 3 you have a fun new surprise to write about on that day because he will not tell me who he plans to support. trey: olivia my memory is not what it used to be. perhaps you can help us here i could've sworn andy biggs ran in the primary in november. why in the world, of course i'm asking you questions that i wish i could ask them, why in the world we have primaries and nominating conferences. andy biggs ran, he got 15% of the vote, how do you go from 15% of the vote to 218. it seems like it would be a lot s

there are five republicans who are indicating they will vote no, although at least ralph norman is suggesting perhaps he can negotiate a compromise. some members are saying there are far more than five who are no votes. andy biggs, who is one of the members vowing to challenge mccarthy on january 3rd, got 31 votes when his party voted to nominate mccarthy for the speakership last month. that would mean that mccarthy has room to make up. in talking to republicans today, there are ample question about what would come next if they don't get 218 votes. a situation that has not occurred since 1923, when the speaker's race went to ballots and a lot of republicans are concerned that the conservative hard liners could make a mess of their new republican majority. >> what do you say to those members who have said he's not going to get 218 votes? >> they're supporting democrats. they're supporting democrats. these are the types of people to often call others out as rinos. >> do you have a candidate who could get democratic support? >> we're at the first base of that discussion. we don't want to be fart

republicans men -- met rosendale, and ralph norman have made a pledge so goes one, so goes all. and mccarthy will have to flip all five of these never kevin's in order to become speaker. that's because republicans have slim house majority. mccarthy can only lose four republicans if he wants the votes for the speaker's gavel, meaning he won't get it without their support. -- >> it's no surprise then that mccarthy is getting increasingly desperate. this week, he made the unusual move of pushing the races for committee leadership spots until after the speaker's election on january 3rd. the thinking is that mccarthy could use that as leverage to lockdown support from disgruntled members. remember, mccarthy has been on a years-long quest to become house speaker. and now, it less than three weeks before the vote that would seal the deal for him, he cannot get his own party on his side. the wall street journal editorial board put it best. quote, republicans are beginning but could not shoot straight, except at one another. they cannot even find the votes to elect the gop speaker, much

this is one from congressman ralph norman. i mentioned it before.not just a congressman from south carolina, a net worth according to wikipedia, $18.3 million. 28th wealthiest member of congress, according to wikipedia. mark, it says in seeing what's happening so quickly and reading about the dominion lawsuits and attempting to stop any meaningful investigation, we are at a point of no return in saving our republic with two exclamation points. using the trump punctuation. our last hope all caps, is invoking martial law. please urge to president to do so. i think he means the president. that's 1/17/2021. sitting member of congress. >> it's about the same day marjorie taylor greene might have sent a text like that. when you look at it from a counter terrorism, martial law, the way they spelled it should give you an indication. other people were spelling it like that in the texts also, that's what i want to tell people. when you have individuals like this, and you have a marjorie taylor greene, other congressional representatives also want to have mart

take more or less at random, congressman ralph norman of south carolina. he is one.one is interesting because it's on generation teen, 2021, 11 days after the coup attempt, do days before the inauguration. they told meadows, quote, our last hope was invoking martial law. please urge the president to do so. forget the typos, they used a lot of them. it's normally the content. congressman bryan bab texas texted meadows in 2020, this is earlier, right, right around the election. mark, we lose trump, we lose our public, fight like hell and find a way. around the same time, tennessee congressman marc greene sent along a newsmax pavement saying that state legislatures can intervene and clear trump the winner, after the writing was on the wall, that trump would lose. in december, arizona congressman paul gosar spread outlandish lies about the dominion voting machine company claiming that china bought dominion in october for $400 million. again, this is not public stuff, right? they're not doing this on tv, this is communications to mark meadows, passing along this nonsense.

at least 30 member of congress texted meadow along various lines republican republican ralph norman wrote about an idea to invoke martial law saying we're at the point of no return, the last hope is invoking marshall law. please ask the president to do so. jim jordan, was texts on january 5th. that's of course insurrection eve, that there was an unconstitutionally appointed elector, like an unappointed statute is no elector at all. you'll notes that a baseline of the planned legalistic coup that they wanted to do the next day, means nobody ever entered the capital illegally they still wanted to unconstitutionally put forward fraudulent electors. brian backen said, went we lose trump, we lose our republic. fight like hell and find a way. you can a the conspiracy theories at the highest level of government. one of the things we try to report on concisely is the difference between the liars and the lied to. there are many people in the united states who have been told lies and they believed them, and that's a certain kind of public and political problem. then there are the liars who know the

more notable texts that was released, meadows got a section from south carolina representative ralph normanthree days before biden took office, he texted, urging trump to impose martial law. "mark, in seeing what's happening so quickly, and reading about the dominion lawsuits attempting to stop any meaningful investigation, we are at a point of no return in saving our republic. our last hope is invoking martial law. please urge the president to do so." but instead of m-a-r-t-i-a-l, he spelled it "marshall." [ laughter ] like the chain of off-price discount department stores. [ laughter ] "and if marshall law doesn't work, we'll mobilize the tj maxx-inistas!" [ laughter ] [ applause ] thank god this coup wasn't planned by people who could solve the wordle. we'd all be in a lot of trouble right now. [ laughter ] this goes a long way toward explaining why these lowlifes have been so quiet about all this. it wasn't just trump. he had dozens of enablers. and a lot of them are still in congress. we have people who tried to overthrow the government in the government right now. and i continue to be

congressman ralph norman told meadows to push trump to declare martial law.e'd been 50 million cases of identity theft. congressman scott perry said an italian defense contractor used a zapper for voting machines. congressman andy biggs. i like it, meadows replied. joining us now, griff jenkins, fox news correspondent and anchor and whether it's martial law or italian satellites, some of these texts are absolutely wild, and hay haven't exactly aged well. >> it's a real insight, howie. by the way, i'm not sure it's more alarming that you have a member of congress suggesting the president declare martial law or that the congressman can't spell it. marjorie taylor green misspelled it as well. here is some 2300 messages from 34 gop members, and we get a real look at it. howard: as january 6th draws closer, you can kind of see them getting more and more anxious about it. one said i have anonymous source who says driver's licenses were breached and so forth. andy biggs and the others, they were fighting for trump, i get that. but they were also determined to overtu

south carolina congressman ralph norman calling on the president to invoke martial law days after the attack. well misspelling marshall. pennsylvania republican scott perry texting we gotta get going on christmas eve 2020 and saying election denier jeffrey clark should be installed as attorney general. which president trump tried to do them -- until his entire legal team trying to quit. according to january six testimony. congressman jim jordan on january 5th. saying the vice president should refuse to certify biden's victory. nbc's not in a pelican from these tax. published by -- the full context in the replies with meadows are not always clear. we've also reached out to meadows as well as congressman jordan norman perry and -- but they have now responded. should point out that congressman biggs is now elected to the senate. joining me now, some nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake. nbc washing correspondent -- usa washington bureau chief susan page. and law professor and former u.s. attorney joyce vance. garrett, there's a lot more texts than what i could read ju

and in another text just three days before biden's inauguration, south carolina republican ralph norman writes in part, our last hope is invoking martial law. please urge the president to do so. now, we should point out nbc news has not independently confirmed the texts published by tpm. what does appear clear, however, is while the texts showed varying degrees of involvement by those members of congress, the communications provide an explanation of how republican members participated in undermining people's faith in democracy. and how many of them bought into the fantasy that trump had actually won. ultimately, riling up a crowd that became violent and attacked the capitol where they were also forced to run and hide. perhaps more concerning is that a number of these same insurrectionist members of congress will find themselves elevated to positions of power when republicans retake control of the chamber in january. and joining me now is hunter walker, one of the investigative reporters for talking points memo who reviewed the texts to mark meadows. hunter, it is good to see you. let's

a bloc, the five include gates and banks as well as malt rosendale, bob goode, and, you know, ralph norman, and they're saying we're going to vote all together in our support. you have some of these people who are already saying we're never going to vote for him. matt gates told me that. andy banks said there's no way i ever vote, nothing can change that unless i'm dead. >> ouch. >> these are people with hatred, very extreme. i said could anything change? he was, like, i guess i could be dead. i don't think they're going to get pushed. so i'm not sure. he has a lot of work to do and very little time to do it before january 3rd and before this election is held. but we'll see. i think members are also -- they say one thing and then will go and change their minds. >> right. >> so perhaps they can offer something to these conservatives to get them to change their minds. but as of now, he doesn't have the votes. >> many have been known to change their minds in real time but it's the never kevin caucus. >> reporter for axios, alayna treene. >> thank you so much. >> never ever. >> never -- i'm ju

sitting member of congress at the, time ralph norman, calling for martial law, three days before president biden is to assume the office of the president. what do you make of that? >> i mean, it's obscene. we talk about there being a possibility of an unprecedented referrals for prosecution of insurrections. it's unprecedented that we're in a situation where, the sitting president, sitting members of congress are participating in that kind of activity. and marshall law, by the way, not even spelling it correctly. that gives you some insight into how conversant with the actual fact some of these folks were. >> yes, it's interesting. as i saw, that i recognize that it was not spelled correctly. i said, you know i'm a spell thing on text messages all the time, so i'm in a leave that one alone. what can be done about it though? >> well, i think we've already seen what should be done about it, which is a high level national investigation. the hope was to have it be bipartisan commission outside of congress, but that was shot down by the presidents allies. so we do have a bipartisan, house commi

less well known ralph norman, he got notoriety this week when he had a text to mark meadows calling for martial law on the aftermath of the 020 election came out, matt rosendale who ran for senate in montana, a congressman, bob good of virginia, the fifth. they all have their own reasons for opposing kevin mccarthy. but by and large, they go to what you just described. they want to hold his feet to the fire and kind of force him to be more conservative, more pro-trump than he might otherwise be and to the degree they're interested in compromise, and again, it varies among the five, a lot of this has to deal with rule changes they might be able to extract to make it possible to give him the gavel and have it hanging over his head the ability to take it back if he tags too far to the left or too far away from the positions they would like to see him follow. interesting of note, people who used to be foils of kevin mccarthy, jim jordan, marjorie taylor greene, very much in kevin mccarthy's camp, and lobbying their fellow conservatives to join them in supporting him as speaker. so they can

one congressman, ralph norman of south carolina, texted meadows saying, quote, we are at a point of nosaving a republic, our last hope, is invoking martial law. please urge the president to do so. that is how he spelled martial law. norman some bent taxed, by the way, on january the 17th of 2021. 11 days after the insurrection and three days before president biden's inauguration. three days before the inauguration they are talking about putting martial law into place. last month he was elected. he was reelected, by the way, to the house. the georgia congresswoman, marjorie taylor greene, was identified as one of the people in contact with meadows, as well. a week ago at a gala hosted by the new york, run young republicans clause. she told the crowd, quote, steve bannon and i had organized, that meeting, january six, we would have won. not to mention, it would have been armed. these are the types of people that donald trump has attracted to the republican party. his combated attitude and open, abrasive, unfounded conspiracy theories have made the gop a welcoming place for extremists. an

congressman andy biggs, matt gates, ralph norman, not rosendale, and bob good plan to vote as a uniton january 3rd. >> we have a new paradigm here, and i think the country wants a different divide direction. >> andy biggs would be an outstanding speaker. >> as i stand here right now, kevin mccarthy does not have 218 votes to become speaker. i don't think he has hit 200. >> and my panel is back with me. eugene, what are the consequences of this mccarthy mcconnell thing? >> what it seems to show is that maybe there's not a lot of trust from mcconnell to mccarthy, that he'd be able to negotiate this by himself, and i think there's obvious tension there. that's going to continue. mcconnell, mitch mcconnell has the trust of the senators in the republican senators, they have his back, they trust him to negotiate a lot of these things. mccarthy does not have that, whatsoever. we see that over and over again in the way that they are outwardly talking about voting against him. even when they voted in november about just having a leader, as not even gonna get all the votes, that he would have

this text message was from a sitting member of the united states congress, republican congressman ralph normanrolina >> seth: this is now the second sitting republican member of congress to text trump's chief of staff about "marshall law" and also to misspell the word, "martial." [ light laughter ] when you spell it like that, it sounds like an old western your grandfather keeps telling you to watch. "you'll love it. it's in black and white and there's no women in it now, does your tv get westinghouse?" [ light laughter ] if nothing else, watching these people debase themselves is yet another reminder you cannot slink away from trump's movement with your dignity intact whether it's embarrassing texts, scam nfts, or accidentally wearing two watches. if you served donald trump or tried to help him overthrow the government, you will end up humiliated it may not be as satisfying as seeing all of his accomplices go to jail. >> but it's what we have [ laughter ] >> seth: this has been "a closer look." [ cheers and applause we'll be right back with paul bettany, everybody! [ cheers and applause ♪ >>

nbc news has not reviewed the original texts, but one is this one from ralph norman of south carolinae, mark, in seeing what's happening so quickly and reading an the dominion lawsuits, attempting to stop any meaningful investigation, we are at a point of no return in saving our republic. our last hope is invoking martial law. please urge the president to do so. it's extremely serious. it's using the u.s. military to control the government. norman wasn't the only one saying it. we knew from previous reporting that marjorie taylor greene had also texted mark meadows and invoking martial law. quote, several members of the republican house caucus believed that the president should invoke martial law in order to prevent the transfer of power. two of them at least put their requests in writing. both of these representatives will be members in good standing in the new house majority and that is why these text messages are so alarming. these are members of the federal government paid salaries paid for our tax dollars. they make decisions that impact all of us yet felt it was okay to overthro

these recent text messages where we have got a number of members of congress, in south carolina, ralph norman, he is urging a meadows to persuade donald trump to invoke martial law. and so, whether these amount to crimes or near ethical violations, it is important, i think, to hold them accountable. the real question will be whether the new congress with the republican majority in the house will want to go forward with that effort. >> all right, glenn kirschner and barbara mcquade. i'm sure we will hear a lot from you in the coming week. thank you. still to come, a court denies a bid by gop let states continue a trump era rule that kept border policy in place. we will explain what this all means after the break. ter the break. draft fees if she overdraws by $50 or less. and, kyle, well, he's keeping calm with another day to adjust his balance if he overdraws by more than $50. overdraft assist from chase. make more of what's yours. the new subway series menu. the greatest sandwich roster ever assembled. tony, the new outlaw's got double pepper jack and juicy steak. let's get some more analysis