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so chesebro pleaded guilty in the georgia elections case. as part of his negotiation, n that case, he negotiated being able to travel as part of his probation. is this so he could work with other states prosecuting the fake electors. >> as part of the probation in georgia, he was not allowed to travel to anywhere the judge said he couldn't. he's had had to ask permission to go to specific places. they include arizona, nevada and washington, d.c. all three of those places have ongoing criminal investigations related to efforts to overturn the 2020 election. we with know the fake electors investigation in nevada is happening. arizona also a apparently wants to talk to chesebro as well. jack smith is doing his case in washington, d.c. and is scheduled to go to trial in march. we could see him want to talk to chesebro now that he's pled guilty. >> too bad there's no fake electors in hawaii or california with the winter months approaching in wisconsin. zach cohen, appreciate it. >>> next, was it a hate crime? one of the palestinian students shot
so chesebro pleaded guilty in the georgia elections case. as part of his negotiation, n that case, he negotiated being able to travel as part of his probation. is this so he could work with other states prosecuting the fake electors. >> as part of the probation in georgia, he was not allowed to travel to anywhere the judge said he couldn't. he's had had to ask permission to go to specific places. they include arizona, nevada and washington, d.c. all three of those places have ongoing...
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that, for me, was the biggest revelation of all of this, that chesebro was in the room with trump., fake and otherwise, our convening, so that work is already behind chesebro at that point. he is already directed everything from the press releases to the forms that the fake electors are supposed to sign, to each of the different states. but the other thing i found so interesting was not only was he in the room with trump, but when asked who he coronated is activists with, who is the person he said he communicated with the most. it's not rudy, not john eastman, it's boris. and you and i had talked many times about the fact that boris has really escaped being a central figure here. he is not charged and the fulton county indictment. he is allegedly one of the coconspirators in the d.c. federal election interference case but reported on the biden air times and unconfirmed. unconfirmed by nbc news, and the other ella, as far as i know. so chesebro is basically putting boris at the center as the connective tissue between the functionaries who are carrying out the fake elector plot, and
that, for me, was the biggest revelation of all of this, that chesebro was in the room with trump., fake and otherwise, our convening, so that work is already behind chesebro at that point. he is already directed everything from the press releases to the forms that the fake electors are supposed to sign, to each of the different states. but the other thing i found so interesting was not only was he in the room with trump, but when asked who he coronated is activists with, who is the person he...
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now, to be fair, chesebro pronounces his name "chezz-bro." be fair, i do not care how he pronounces his name. he's a guy from wisconsin. he is a cheese bro. cheese bro. kenneth chesebro admitted he worked with trump and other members of his inner circle to overturn the 2020 election by putting forward slates of fake republican electors in multiple states that trump lost. we should've known chesebro was behind it all when the electors were named rick cotta, bibi gouda, monty rayjack, and brie larson. that was worth it, baby. that one was worth it. brie larson. now, chesebro and powell are set to testify against trump and reportedly that has shattered any sense of invincibility that the former president may be feeling. i would love to see that and be there for that realization. "wait a second. you're saying i'm not invincible? so you can see me right now? and you know that i'm in the women's locker room?" [cheering] of course, trump kept calm and freaked out on truth social this weekend, claiming, "ms. powell was not my attorney and never was."
now, to be fair, chesebro pronounces his name "chezz-bro." be fair, i do not care how he pronounces his name. he's a guy from wisconsin. he is a cheese bro. cheese bro. kenneth chesebro admitted he worked with trump and other members of his inner circle to overturn the 2020 election by putting forward slates of fake republican electors in multiple states that trump lost. we should've known chesebro was behind it all when the electors were named rick cotta, bibi gouda, monty rayjack,...
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both chesebro and powell really talking a fair bit with trump. the one little nugget from ellis, they were doing here at the time, there are things you could say, but that, i think, is incendiary. the other stuff is just solid and can be useful, but the whole context here, these are people who are gonna come forward and testify at trial, and there is a sort of visceral feeling to, wow, this is what it is going to look like when this former allies turn against him in a fulton county court of law. that, i think, as a kind of, really, bracing effect. >> katie, do these leaks hurt finally willis as she prepares for trial? >> they heard fani willis and a variety of ways, which is probably why she wants this protective order. when you think about what happened, she has distributed this information so she can defender clash to best of the remedy. when this information doesn't come comes out and it is a couple of things. the public begins to debate or information before she can presented at trial. and out of context the arguments that she would want to m
both chesebro and powell really talking a fair bit with trump. the one little nugget from ellis, they were doing here at the time, there are things you could say, but that, i think, is incendiary. the other stuff is just solid and can be useful, but the whole context here, these are people who are gonna come forward and testify at trial, and there is a sort of visceral feeling to, wow, this is what it is going to look like when this former allies turn against him in a fulton county court of...
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the washington post says, chesebro disclosed in his coed statement that a previously unreported white house meeting, he briefed trump on election challenges in arizona and summarized a memo, and what she offered advice on assembling alternate slates of electors in key battlegrounds to cast ballots for trump, despite biden's victories in the states. chesebro also disclosed for the first time that he played a role, transporting documents signed by wisconsin trump electors to capitol hill, as part of a trump campaign plan 2% vice president pence with competing slates of electors. and joyce vance, those wisconsin electors and how they got to washington has been a part of the story from the start. >> that's absolutely right, and, lawrence, this reporting is interesting because it underscores the point that you originally made, and that neal discussed, that what we know about are these snippets of testimony that has been released. there is obviously a lot more, and prosecutors believe they have good reasons for making the sweetheart plea deals with these folks. we begin to see some of that
the washington post says, chesebro disclosed in his coed statement that a previously unreported white house meeting, he briefed trump on election challenges in arizona and summarized a memo, and what she offered advice on assembling alternate slates of electors in key battlegrounds to cast ballots for trump, despite biden's victories in the states. chesebro also disclosed for the first time that he played a role, transporting documents signed by wisconsin trump electors to capitol hill, as part...
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but these buttoned-up quiet type, the chesebros, if you will, are the ones who actually understand whatdown. he's a harvard educated lawyer with a long history in washington politics who might actually be able to explain to a jury where the bodies are buried as opposed to rudy, who looks like a guy who knows the best places to dig one up [ laughter ] "i look for tombstones with fancy names. they're most likely to be wearing watches. [ light laughter ] before we move on, a lot of time was spent today on making a joke about how chesebro sounds like a line of cheese-based hasbro products [ laughter ] but it was decided that had nothing to do with this very important news story, so we abandoned that we didn't want to waste your time by showing you what products they would make, products like barbury. [ laughter ] or my little provoloney. [ laughter ] we're better than that [ applause ] we're better than that and more importantly, you're better than that [ laughter ] and this plea deal came one day after another plea deal that was bad for trump. last week we told you that former trump lawyer
but these buttoned-up quiet type, the chesebros, if you will, are the ones who actually understand whatdown. he's a harvard educated lawyer with a long history in washington politics who might actually be able to explain to a jury where the bodies are buried as opposed to rudy, who looks like a guy who knows the best places to dig one up [ laughter ] "i look for tombstones with fancy names. they're most likely to be wearing watches. [ light laughter ] before we move on, a lot of time was...
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he was briefed by chesebro directly on the fake electors plans. he's talking directly to sidney powell about these theories of election fraud, which are debunk. he is not a passive observer being advised by lawyers. he's engaged in discussions and controlling and understanding a plot. those are two significant things, very relevant in both case. >> federal prosecutor had for this question, trump has been charged with the civil rights era crime of denying the vote and their actual votes and the right to vote. it seems that knowing there was never any fraud goes a long way toward proving that trump intended to deny people their votes. >> yes, exactly right. if the civil rights charge requires mindful deprivation of a right, the fact that he disregards the actual evidence of fraud and moves straight to the political coup, those flanks in the multiprong to disrupt the joint session is very telling on his intent. the other thing that powell indicates very directly is she was present or repeated explanations to the president. again, go back to bill barr
he was briefed by chesebro directly on the fake electors plans. he's talking directly to sidney powell about these theories of election fraud, which are debunk. he is not a passive observer being advised by lawyers. he's engaged in discussions and controlling and understanding a plot. those are two significant things, very relevant in both case. >> federal prosecutor had for this question, trump has been charged with the civil rights era crime of denying the vote and their actual votes...
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, and chesebro described for trump his memo on the fake elector scheme.re was also a coup plot revealed to jenna ellis at a white house christmas party. this is what she told reporters about a conversation she had with top trump aide dan scavino. >> he said to me in a kind of excited tone, well, we don't care and we're not going to leave. and i said what do you mean. and he said the boss, meaning president trump, the boss is not going to leave under any circumstances, we're just going to stay in power. and i said to him it doesn't quite work that way you realize, and he said we don't care. >> joining us now is mimi roca, a former u.s. attorney in the southern district of new york. mimi, thanks for being here. let's first pick up where jenna ellis left off there. this idea dan scavino told her we're just going to stay in power. seems like a searing indictment. can it be used in court? is it hearsay? how does this qualify as a piece of evidence? >> the fact you know to ask if it's hearsay. so, first of all i would say, yes, i mean this is damaging testimony
, and chesebro described for trump his memo on the fake elector scheme.re was also a coup plot revealed to jenna ellis at a white house christmas party. this is what she told reporters about a conversation she had with top trump aide dan scavino. >> he said to me in a kind of excited tone, well, we don't care and we're not going to leave. and i said what do you mean. and he said the boss, meaning president trump, the boss is not going to leave under any circumstances, we're just going to...
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we now know that because of kenneth chesebro and because of this investigation in fulton county.ust take a look, i think it was an interesting note, jena ellis tweeted this morning, among her own video going out into the public, she quoted scripture, john chapter 8:32, then you will know the truth and the truth will set you free. a timely statement from the former trump lawyer. >> we're not even into it, the way we're going to be. thank you both so much. such interesting stuff. >>> we're also getting some breaking news that is tied to embattled new york congressman george santos. his former fund-raiser just pled guilty in a federal criminal case. nbc's ali vitali is on capitol hill for us. what more do we know? >> reporter: this all coming into us now, chris, in real time. but it is more bad news for the embattled congressman from long island, george santos. we're now learning that a former campaign fund-raiser for the embattled congressman pled guilty today in federal court for after being indicted for impersonating an aid to ex-house speaker kevin mccarthy. you'll remember that
we now know that because of kenneth chesebro and because of this investigation in fulton county.ust take a look, i think it was an interesting note, jena ellis tweeted this morning, among her own video going out into the public, she quoted scripture, john chapter 8:32, then you will know the truth and the truth will set you free. a timely statement from the former trump lawyer. >> we're not even into it, the way we're going to be. thank you both so much. such interesting stuff....
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chesebro's recollection could provide evidence that trump was well aware of the fraudulent elector plan. now, remember, these are just snippets of hours long conversations that those witnesses had with fani willis's office. that means more bombshells could actually be revealed when these codefendants turn cooperators take the stand, and give out all of their details. let's bring in our panel for the hour, jessica levinson, professor at loyola law school. hayes brown, writer numb editor for msnbc daily. and danielle moodie, host of woke a f daily, and host of democracy, and the new abnormal podcast. great to have all of you with us. jessica, talk to us about that protective order issued by judge mcafee. what does it mean for the case moving forward? >> it means that you and i, and other people will get less information potentially about information that is exchanged between the parties. essentially what the judge said, and what it looks like the party has agreed to, is that there is some sensitive information that will be subject to this protective order, and that there may be a differen
chesebro's recollection could provide evidence that trump was well aware of the fraudulent elector plan. now, remember, these are just snippets of hours long conversations that those witnesses had with fani willis's office. that means more bombshells could actually be revealed when these codefendants turn cooperators take the stand, and give out all of their details. let's bring in our panel for the hour, jessica levinson, professor at loyola law school. hayes brown, writer numb editor for...
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former pro-trump lawyer kenneth chesebro, sidney powell and jenna ellis and scott hall. remember, this case stems from efforts to overturn georgia's 2020 election results. 19 people were charged, including donald trump. revolutions today including the post report that kenneth chesebro behind the plot to put forward slates of fake electors admitted that he played a role transporting documents signed by fake electors from wisconsin to capitol hill. those bogus electors were i intended as part of a plan to throw our democracy into chaos so trump and his team could steal democracy from you. it gets worse. trump attorney general thatlis said in late december weeks after the election was called for joe bidennd a trump ran out of legal ks as, she said dan scavino was unfazed. why would he be unfazed? the answer, according to ellis, well, it's quite chilling. >> i emphasized to him i thought that the claims and the ability to challenge the election results was essentially over because of the dismissal of the texas v. pennsylvania case from the united states supreme court, and he
former pro-trump lawyer kenneth chesebro, sidney powell and jenna ellis and scott hall. remember, this case stems from efforts to overturn georgia's 2020 election results. 19 people were charged, including donald trump. revolutions today including the post report that kenneth chesebro behind the plot to put forward slates of fake electors admitted that he played a role transporting documents signed by fake electors from wisconsin to capitol hill. those bogus electors were i intended as part of...
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and it brings chesebro in particular into the plot. now, this does indicate there's something really there. >> pence obviously was quiet about this for quite some time. then finally he came out and he served in this role and it mattered at that moment. and i don't want to use the word hero lightly, but there are some who think that he played a heroic role in just doing his job on that day. but this shows that he was almost about to not do his job. you know him. >> we realized after january 6th just the brink that our democracy came to, and it really was the one man of mike pence that kind of held it all together. but to realize now, and i didn't know this at the time, i was talking to people close to pence. >> but i don't think i talked to him after the time i left in december, left the white house. he was very close to himself not showing up for this. if we can just thank his son michael pence who's a u.s. marine who, according to pence's notes, basically said you swore the same oath that i did, that shows that he was such a historic
and it brings chesebro in particular into the plot. now, this does indicate there's something really there. >> pence obviously was quiet about this for quite some time. then finally he came out and he served in this role and it mattered at that moment. and i don't want to use the word hero lightly, but there are some who think that he played a heroic role in just doing his job on that day. but this shows that he was almost about to not do his job. you know him. >> we realized after...
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>> right, so it really does especially for the ones who unlike jenna ellis, but kenneth chesebro wasunnamed unindicted coconspiratorter in d.c. you cannot rely on advice from lawyers if they happen to be your partner in crime. so all sorts of implications here. and at bottom for trump to make out the defense, it's tough to figure out how he'll prove it other than by taking the witness stand himself, so we may not see him move forward with this defense at the end of the day. >> just practically speaking january 15th as a deadline, is that a sufficient amount of time to prepare a defense given what he may claim? >> well, it's a smart date because trump agreed to that date in earlier filings with the judge. so she in essence avoided any problems on appeal. look, it gives the government a couple of months. they see this one coming from far away. and to the extent that trump wants to rely on john eastman's advice about creating fake slates of electors and telling mike pence to delay certification, government is already i'm quite confident ready to deal with that. >> joyce, there's so much
>> right, so it really does especially for the ones who unlike jenna ellis, but kenneth chesebro wasunnamed unindicted coconspiratorter in d.c. you cannot rely on advice from lawyers if they happen to be your partner in crime. so all sorts of implications here. and at bottom for trump to make out the defense, it's tough to figure out how he'll prove it other than by taking the witness stand himself, so we may not see him move forward with this defense at the end of the day. >> just...
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and chesebro described for trump's memo on the fake elector scheme. coup plot revealed to jenna ellis at a white house christmas party. this is what she told prosecutors about a conversation she had with tom's trump's top aide, dan scavino. >> he said an excited tone, we don't care, and we're not going to leave. i said, what do you mean, and he said, well, the boss, meaning president trump. the boss is not going to leave under any circumstances. we are just going to stay in power. i said to him, it is not quite work that way, relies. he said, we don't care. >> joining us now is mimi roker, the district attorney of was county, new york, and the former district attorney in the southern district of new york. thank you for being here. let's pick up or jenna ellis left off there, this idea that dance given a told her, we're just going to stay in power, i had to read it there. we are just going to stay in power. seems like a searing indictment that can be used in court, is it hearsay, how does this qualify as a piece of evidence? >> the fact that you know t
and chesebro described for trump's memo on the fake elector scheme. coup plot revealed to jenna ellis at a white house christmas party. this is what she told prosecutors about a conversation she had with tom's trump's top aide, dan scavino. >> he said an excited tone, we don't care, and we're not going to leave. i said, what do you mean, and he said, well, the boss, meaning president trump. the boss is not going to leave under any circumstances. we are just going to stay in power. i said...
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. >> according to "the posts," and chesebro says trump was aware of the fake electors. >> yeah, i thinkmony tends to advance the ball on the knowledge of intent. the defense attorney's comment about diminishing this evidence reminds me of the kind of evidence you hear in a closing argument and that is to pick a piece of the evidence and say that doesn't prove the case. it's consistent with a theory that donald trump was going to overturn the election and stay in power at any cost. >> what does the fact that, let's say, it could be shown clearly that the former president trump was told over and over again that he had, indeed, lost the election, and the intent aspect of it, what kind of weight does that have? >> it can be used to prove knowledge, even if donald trump never himself said the words, i know i lost the election, a jury will be instructed on willness blindness, and that's that a person cannot ignore a fact that is true by burying their head in the sand, and the fact trump was told again and again could prove the willful blindness. we have to look to the totality of the circumst
. >> according to "the posts," and chesebro says trump was aware of the fake electors. >> yeah, i thinkmony tends to advance the ball on the knowledge of intent. the defense attorney's comment about diminishing this evidence reminds me of the kind of evidence you hear in a closing argument and that is to pick a piece of the evidence and say that doesn't prove the case. it's consistent with a theory that donald trump was going to overturn the election and stay in power at...
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chesebro's statement would personally tie the former president to the elector plan. the fulton county d.a.'s office has refused nbc news' request for comment. trump's lead attorney in georgia said this about the reports. "if this is the nonsense line of inquiry being pursued and this is the type of bogus, ridiculous evidence that d.a. willis intends to rely upon, it is one more reason that this political travesty of a case must be dismissed." the former president, meanwhile, is taking advantage of a pause in the gag order against him in the federal election interference case. trump posted on social media yesterday that special counsel jack smith and the u.s. deputy attorney general would be institutionalized if he is re-elected president next year. the former president wrote they were suffering from trump derangement syndrome. the gag order against him in the federal election case is on hold at least until next monday. that's when an appeals court is set to hear arguments from trump's legal team on why that order should be removed. trump will play this off as he was
chesebro's statement would personally tie the former president to the elector plan. the fulton county d.a.'s office has refused nbc news' request for comment. trump's lead attorney in georgia said this about the reports. "if this is the nonsense line of inquiry being pursued and this is the type of bogus, ridiculous evidence that d.a. willis intends to rely upon, it is one more reason that this political travesty of a case must be dismissed." the former president, meanwhile, is taking...
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what about the admissibility of things like kenneth chesebro? sydney powell? jenna ellis?in a civil lawsuit brought by -- saying yeah, i'm conceding liability on this. i knew that what i was saying is not true about fraud being perpetrated. is any of that going to be admissible in a trial like that for judge chutkan? >> absolutely. all of these are real danger zones to donald trump. most recently, we have seen just how sweeping the evidence that jacks mitt seeks to introduce against donald trump will be. it looks like his approach is no piece of incriminating evidence will be left behind. it will all be presented to that d.c. jury. the fact that so many of donald trump's attorneys -- have already admitted, guilt that evidence will absolutely make a showing inside that courtroom. >> glenn kirschner, as, always you break it down in a way that we all can understand. it is important, because justice matters. >> justice matters. >> as always, thank you for being here. >> and coming up after the break, a family that testifies together, will they stay together? don jr. expected t
what about the admissibility of things like kenneth chesebro? sydney powell? jenna ellis?in a civil lawsuit brought by -- saying yeah, i'm conceding liability on this. i knew that what i was saying is not true about fraud being perpetrated. is any of that going to be admissible in a trial like that for judge chutkan? >> absolutely. all of these are real danger zones to donald trump. most recently, we have seen just how sweeping the evidence that jacks mitt seeks to introduce against...
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>> right, it really does, especially for the ones that unlike jenna ellis, but kenneth chesebro is anfrom lawyers, they happen to be our partners in crime. so all sorts of implications here. and a bottom, for trump to make up the defense, it's tough to figure out how he'll prove it other than by taking the witness stand himself, so we may not see him move forward with this defense at the end of the day. >> practically speaking, january 15th is the that, on that a sufficient amount of time to prepare a defense, given what he may claim? >> well, it's a smart day because trump agreed to that date in earlier filings with the judge. they avoided problems on appeal. it gives the government a couple of months. they see this one coming from far away, and to the extent that trump wants to rely on john eastman's advice about creating fake slates of electors and telling mike pence to delay certification, government is already, i am quite confident, ready to deal with the. >> oh, joyce, there is so much to unpack, we have to leave it there my friend, thank you for closing this out with some inter
>> right, it really does, especially for the ones that unlike jenna ellis, but kenneth chesebro is anfrom lawyers, they happen to be our partners in crime. so all sorts of implications here. and a bottom, for trump to make up the defense, it's tough to figure out how he'll prove it other than by taking the witness stand himself, so we may not see him move forward with this defense at the end of the day. >> practically speaking, january 15th is the that, on that a sufficient amount...
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ken chesebro, sydney powell, and jenna ellis.y were three who were involved with -- can chesebro was creating this fake electors scheme, jenna ellis was on the traveling team with rudy giuliani through georgia, spreading lies about election fraud, and sidney powell was involved with the voting machine scam. so the lawyers who were involved with this whole fraud talk that turned out to be false, about him winning the election when he really lost it, have already pled guilty. so i think that congressman buck, he may not have liked the committee, but he clearly is not one of the election deniers. and that's what the january 6th, all of what happened on that date was about. it was donald trump getting these people there to storm the capitol, because of his false claims that he won the election. so i don't think the congressman will be helpful to donald trump, or hurtful to the plaintiffs. >> all right, catherine and christina, please stick around. i'm going to squeeze in a quick break. up next, senate democrats are upping the ante on
ken chesebro, sydney powell, and jenna ellis.y were three who were involved with -- can chesebro was creating this fake electors scheme, jenna ellis was on the traveling team with rudy giuliani through georgia, spreading lies about election fraud, and sidney powell was involved with the voting machine scam. so the lawyers who were involved with this whole fraud talk that turned out to be false, about him winning the election when he really lost it, have already pled guilty. so i think that...
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nbc news has reached out to attorneys for chesebro, ellis, powell and scott hall, but we have not yetack. former president trump and the other 14 co-defendants in this case have, of course, pled not guilty. ana? >> garrett haake, thank you. let's bring in former federal prosecutor paul butler. paul, garrett laid it out there, a lot there, does any of this offer a smoking gun against trump? >> there is a lot of really incriminating evidence. remember, these defendants, if they had been convicted at trial were facing up to 20 years in georgia state prison. d.a. willis offered them probation in exchange for their full true testimony and now we see why they got such great deals. their testimony about the fake electors plot, it looked like some of the remaining 15 defendants and that could well cause some of them to plead guilty. d.a. willis has prosecuted enough of these racketeering cases that we know her modus operandi. she extracts guilty pleas out of many of the co-conspirators and when it is time for trial, it is usually just the big fish that are left. so donald trump is unlikely to
nbc news has reached out to attorneys for chesebro, ellis, powell and scott hall, but we have not yetack. former president trump and the other 14 co-defendants in this case have, of course, pled not guilty. ana? >> garrett haake, thank you. let's bring in former federal prosecutor paul butler. paul, garrett laid it out there, a lot there, does any of this offer a smoking gun against trump? >> there is a lot of really incriminating evidence. remember, these defendants, if they had...
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to go investigators, and they were part of a plea deal for attorneys jim ellis, sidney powell, ken chesebro. nick, the hearing just ended. what happened? >> reporter: prosecutors and defense attorneys have agreed in principle to a protective order where prosecutors will have to designate what they believe is sensitive materials in the pretrial discovery material and defense attorneys will have 14 days to respond. i should mention the judge here, judge mcafee, hasn't yet made a ruling from the bench and today was no different. listen to him talk about what a protective order could look like in this case. >> the state originally proposed what i would characterize as a blanket, umbrella protective order, anything and everything that is turned over that wasn't already public or part of the defense file was going to be held under seal. whereas my reading of mr. schaefer's proposed order is there is going to be this intermediary designation of some things will be sensitive and that's what's not allowed to be turned over, so it's not everything. is that a fair read of that, mr. wade? >> it is, jud
to go investigators, and they were part of a plea deal for attorneys jim ellis, sidney powell, ken chesebro. nick, the hearing just ended. what happened? >> reporter: prosecutors and defense attorneys have agreed in principle to a protective order where prosecutors will have to designate what they believe is sensitive materials in the pretrial discovery material and defense attorneys will have 14 days to respond. i should mention the judge here, judge mcafee, hasn't yet made a ruling from...
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and we know, just one more piece of data on this, several memos exchanged, chesebro at one point suggests grassley doing it, because he was plausibly insulating pants who had self interest, and he's on the ballot itself. eastman writing back, again, december 23rd, all happening around the same time. christmas eve when he decides he's not gonna do it and saying i agree with you just should airy hearing and the constitutional -- should constrain pence or grassley. or grassley? where is that coming from? it's clearly floating around. we're not making this up. >> oh, absolutely. there is a plan a and a plan b. so the idea that this isn't surprising, we always knew that there was some concern about whether pence was going to show up. and here you have it. i think it's going to make him, at the end of the day, a stronger witness for the government. it will show just how much pressure was on him that he overcame it. the story is, as reported, is it was based on a conversation with his son, which really caused him to rethink his obligation, is i think he will say, the constitution. that's a prett
and we know, just one more piece of data on this, several memos exchanged, chesebro at one point suggests grassley doing it, because he was plausibly insulating pants who had self interest, and he's on the ballot itself. eastman writing back, again, december 23rd, all happening around the same time. christmas eve when he decides he's not gonna do it and saying i agree with you just should airy hearing and the constitutional -- should constrain pence or grassley. or grassley? where is that...
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chesebro's statement personally ties the former president to the elector plan.torney's office has refused nbc news' request for comment. trump's lead attorney said this about the report, quote, if this is the nonsense line of inquiry being pursued and this is the type of bogus, ridiculous evidence d.a. willis intends to rely upon, it is one more reason that this political travesty of a case must be dismissed. let's bring in former u.s. attorney barbara mcquade. nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard and the host of "way too early" jonathan lemire. vaughn, you've been covering this very closely. it is striking to see these two attorneys, these two women who were so brash during the 2020 election with their claims of a stolen election being humbled now that the law has caught up to them and they've cut a deal with prosecutors. >> what is so striking is to see these two on video saying this and this is the part that i keep coming back to. i was at trump's counter rally to the debate last week down in miami there, and folks to this day -- i mean, one gentleman telli
chesebro's statement personally ties the former president to the elector plan.torney's office has refused nbc news' request for comment. trump's lead attorney said this about the report, quote, if this is the nonsense line of inquiry being pursued and this is the type of bogus, ridiculous evidence d.a. willis intends to rely upon, it is one more reason that this political travesty of a case must be dismissed. let's bring in former u.s. attorney barbara mcquade. nbc news correspondent vaughn...
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nbc news reached out for attorneys for chesebro, ellis, powell and scott hall have not heard back.ormer president trump and the other 14 remaining co-defendants in this case pled not guilty. savannah. >> thank you, garrett. >>> 7:15. craig joins the table. hey, craig, good morning. >> good morning to you as well. we are getting the newest read on inflation this morning, and it could determine whether americans will face even more interest rate hikes. nbc's tom costello is covering this one for us. tom, what do we know? >> reporter: yeah, craig, good morning. the consumer price index is shows inflation slowed a bit in october thanks to lower fuel prices. unleaded gas right now down over 40 cents from a year ago. however, the core inflation takes out food and energy, shows we are still paying more for many items than we did a year ago. keep in mind, the fed wants to see inflation come down to an annual rate of 2 brs. this morning we learned that overall october inflation is running or was running at 3.2%, a tad lower than expected, half a point lower than september, but that core inf
nbc news reached out for attorneys for chesebro, ellis, powell and scott hall have not heard back.ormer president trump and the other 14 remaining co-defendants in this case pled not guilty. savannah. >> thank you, garrett. >>> 7:15. craig joins the table. hey, craig, good morning. >> good morning to you as well. we are getting the newest read on inflation this morning, and it could determine whether americans will face even more interest rate hikes. nbc's tom costello is...
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kenneth chesebro, john eastman, rudy giuliani, sidney powell, these are trump's lawyers who are now criminally indict. those are the kind of folks or the actual folks trump would like to have in the white house making big decisions if he wins in 2024. your reaction. >> this is the model of roy cohn. we are talking about not a legal system. this is an extra legal system. my issue is not with the federalist society. it's not, oh, i disagree with the opinion of pat cipollone or don megan and i think it's wrong to be thinking of it as liberal versus federalist society in terms of those are legitimate differences, and you can have really -- real debates about it. but there are people who have lines. don megan had a real line. he was not willing to lie for the former president. pat cipollone was not willing to engage in insurrection. i know a lot of people would say that's not a high bar, but they were willing to say, no, they were acting as lawyers within their own principles. this is taking a play book out of fascist authoritarian regimes where lawyers are part of the tools of giving a veneer of l
kenneth chesebro, john eastman, rudy giuliani, sidney powell, these are trump's lawyers who are now criminally indict. those are the kind of folks or the actual folks trump would like to have in the white house making big decisions if he wins in 2024. your reaction. >> this is the model of roy cohn. we are talking about not a legal system. this is an extra legal system. my issue is not with the federalist society. it's not, oh, i disagree with the opinion of pat cipollone or don megan and...
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you have ken chesebro, who was the architect of the fake electors plot. he already pleaded guilty to felony conspiracy, connected to the plot. and then you have former trump attorney general jenna ellis. who also pleaded guilty, and she pleaded guilty to aiding and abetting false statements about the election to georgia's senate. that is a felony. now whether or not that has a nexus, or a connection to arizona at this point, we simply don't know. because they are in the middle of their investigation in arizona. we just have to see what the attorney general decides. >> kyung lah, thank you, appreciated. next, intolerance on display, the museum of tolerance. we will tell you with the latest destruction of violence in this country, after the october 7th massacre and. >> police in los angeles investigating violence last night outside of all places that's what this museum of tolerance. stephanie elam with this report. >> clashes at l.a.'s museum of tolerance. over a documentary screened inside. the end to a night of intense emotion. >> i didn't watch all of it
you have ken chesebro, who was the architect of the fake electors plot. he already pleaded guilty to felony conspiracy, connected to the plot. and then you have former trump attorney general jenna ellis. who also pleaded guilty, and she pleaded guilty to aiding and abetting false statements about the election to georgia's senate. that is a felony. now whether or not that has a nexus, or a connection to arizona at this point, we simply don't know. because they are in the middle of their...
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and "the washington post" but not nbc news were from witnesses jenna ellis, sidney powell, kenneth chesebro, and scott hall, who have all taken plea deals in the case. and those videos include stunning new revelations about donald trump's alleged plot to hang on to power. fani willis speaking today said this was the exact reason she originally filed for a protective order back in september. >> my team and the particular case that those got out, we had already filed to have a protective order where discovery in the case would not get out. so surprising, no. disappointing, yes. in fact, today, from here, i made sure i wasn't late for this event, but i was with my team making sure an emergency motion got filed so that motion we had already filed gets heard immediately. because i think it's -- i'm not happy that it was released and that you and your colleague got to do your story. >> the judge in the case has scheduled a hearing regarding the emergency protective order for tomorrow afternoon. meanwhile, one of donald trump's other legal cases, the new york civil fraud trial, trump has continued
and "the washington post" but not nbc news were from witnesses jenna ellis, sidney powell, kenneth chesebro, and scott hall, who have all taken plea deals in the case. and those videos include stunning new revelations about donald trump's alleged plot to hang on to power. fani willis speaking today said this was the exact reason she originally filed for a protective order back in september. >> my team and the particular case that those got out, we had already filed to have a...
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chesebro, i think it seems quite clear that there is some what we used to call false exculpatory statements. they don't seem like they are fully cooperating. they are saying things that are, i think, harmful to the states case, helpful to donald trump. there was a lot of questions when they pled guilty, whether they were fully cooperating because their agreements were not like alice's. there are signs of that i think in the information that has leaked out. >> and neal katyal you are with us last night when these leaks were very fresh. you saw after that stage harmful evidence for donald trump that would work against him, but the other important thing about these tapes is, these are selected portions of these tapes. that were leaked. none of them were leaked in their entirety, and so, neil, we don't know the full context of these interviews. >> that's exactly. there's a whole discussion now, people are claiming fani willis and her office for leaking. it is true what, and who is saying, that the evidence itself is really important. it estimates trump's mens rhea when it says, when jen ellis s
chesebro, i think it seems quite clear that there is some what we used to call false exculpatory statements. they don't seem like they are fully cooperating. they are saying things that are, i think, harmful to the states case, helpful to donald trump. there was a lot of questions when they pled guilty, whether they were fully cooperating because their agreements were not like alice's. there are signs of that i think in the information that has leaked out. >> and neal katyal you are with...
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kenneth chesebro, john eastman, jenna ellis, rudy giuliani, sydney powell, these are trump's lawyers, who are now criminally indicted, those are the kinds of folks for the actual folks that trump would like to have in the white house making big decisions if he wins in 2020, what's your reaction? >> this is the model of roy cohn, i mean, we are talking about not a legal system, this is an extra legal system. you know, why she was not with the federalist society, it is not oh, i disagree with the opinion of had cipollone or don mcgahn, and i think it is wrong to be thinking of it as, you know, liberal versus federalist society in terms of, you know, those are legitimate differences, and you can have really good debates about it. there are people who have lines, don mcgahn had a real line and he was not willing to ride for the former president, has a plan he was not willing to engage an insurrection. now i know a lot of people would say that that's not a high bar, you are not willing to commit a crime, but they were willing to say no. they were acting as lawyers would do, on a set of pri
kenneth chesebro, john eastman, jenna ellis, rudy giuliani, sydney powell, these are trump's lawyers, who are now criminally indicted, those are the kinds of folks for the actual folks that trump would like to have in the white house making big decisions if he wins in 2020, what's your reaction? >> this is the model of roy cohn, i mean, we are talking about not a legal system, this is an extra legal system. you know, why she was not with the federalist society, it is not oh, i disagree...
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washington post" showed interviews with witnesses, jenna ellis, sidney powell, scott hall, and with kenneth chesebrose video was not released publicly. all have taken plea deals to flip on donald trump in the release prompted today's emergency hearing. at that hearing, there was a surprise confession from the source, jonathan miller. the attorney for one of donald trump's 18 other co-defendants. former coffee county election supervisor, misty hampton. >> in being transparent with the court, and to make sure that nobody else gets blamed for what happened and so that i can go to sleep well tonight, judge, i did release those videos to one outlet. and in all candor to the court, i need the court to know that. >> attorney mitchell's explanation was hiding the videos in his words mislead the public. it would help his client, saying that two of the defendants were directly related to my client. mitchell did not say who those two clients might be, but his client, misty hampton, is charged along with powell and hall in a scheme to access voting machines in coffee county. meanwhile, fani willis sought to rev
washington post" showed interviews with witnesses, jenna ellis, sidney powell, scott hall, and with kenneth chesebrose video was not released publicly. all have taken plea deals to flip on donald trump in the release prompted today's emergency hearing. at that hearing, there was a surprise confession from the source, jonathan miller. the attorney for one of donald trump's 18 other co-defendants. former coffee county election supervisor, misty hampton. >> in being transparent with the...
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you have ken chesebro, who is the architect of the fake electors plot.ded guilty to federal conspiracy connected to the pot. and you have former trump attorney jenna ellis who also pleaded guilty. she pleaded guilty to aiding and abetting false statements about the election to georgia's senate. that is a felony. whether or not that has a nexus or a connection to arizona, at this point we simply don't know because they are in the middle of their investigation in arizona. we just have to see what the attorney general decides. >> kyung lah, thank you. appreciate it. >>> next, intolerance on display at the museum of tolerance. we'll tell you about the latest eruption of violenence i in thi cocountry y over thehe octctobe massacrere and the w war in gaz. >>> police in los angeles are investigating violence last night outside, of all places, the city's museum of tolerance. >> reporter: clashes at l.a. museum of tolerance over a documentary screened inside. the end to a night of intense emotion. >> i couldn't watch all of it. it's difficult. >> reporter: the fi
you have ken chesebro, who is the architect of the fake electors plot.ded guilty to federal conspiracy connected to the pot. and you have former trump attorney jenna ellis who also pleaded guilty. she pleaded guilty to aiding and abetting false statements about the election to georgia's senate. that is a felony. whether or not that has a nexus or a connection to arizona, at this point we simply don't know because they are in the middle of their investigation in arizona. we just have to see what...
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you look at judge atlas, kenneth chesebro, what does that portend for rudy giuliani?ing a lot of love financially or morally by donald trump. he's not helping him raise any money. what happens to giuliani? the sea flip on trump? >> he says he's not. of course, everyone says they're not until they do. donald trump is the reason for rudy giuliani's relevance. he cerebral and back from the abyss, after the presidential loss in 2008, so there is a loyalty there that is kind of heartening. >> when you think about the moment that it all went south for rudy giuliani, or perhaps, rudy giuliani specifically with the relationship with trump, can you point to it? is there a moment where based on your reporting, you can see that relationship knows that? >> it ended at the beginning, right? he was a reluctant trump supporter in 2015, as a lot of people were. then there is nobody else returning phone calls, kind of losing relevance at the time. trump was more than his meal ticket. his companion, a supporter, the only way that he would see the game, kind of thing. >> why do what he
you look at judge atlas, kenneth chesebro, what does that portend for rudy giuliani?ing a lot of love financially or morally by donald trump. he's not helping him raise any money. what happens to giuliani? the sea flip on trump? >> he says he's not. of course, everyone says they're not until they do. donald trump is the reason for rudy giuliani's relevance. he cerebral and back from the abyss, after the presidential loss in 2008, so there is a loyalty there that is kind of heartening....
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videos was clearly meant to intimidate trump's former co-defendants, jenna ellis, sidney powell, kenneth chesebroeals. nbc's blayne alexander is reporting from atlanta, also with me former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst carol lam, welcome to you both. what do we expect to hear in this case today, blayne? >> reporter: well, chris, i think that we're going to hear from what i suspect will be a rather frustrated d.a.'s team as to why they need these sort of safeguards immediately to stop a leak like this from happening in the future. these videos are called part of what's discovery. now the d.a.'s office is saying they need a protective order to stop anything like this from being shared. they also say that they're going to make some changes going forward. they say that if there are future videos to be disseminated to defense attorneys, they're not going to hand out copies like they did before. instead the defense teams will have to come down here to her office in downtown atlanta and watch those videos in person. they can take notes, but they can't take copies with them. now, of course a
videos was clearly meant to intimidate trump's former co-defendants, jenna ellis, sidney powell, kenneth chesebroeals. nbc's blayne alexander is reporting from atlanta, also with me former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst carol lam, welcome to you both. what do we expect to hear in this case today, blayne? >> reporter: well, chris, i think that we're going to hear from what i suspect will be a rather frustrated d.a.'s team as to why they need these sort of safeguards immediately...
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i look at people like bill barr, kenneth chesebro, i look at the lawyers, also.n the judges that perhaps are the loyalist that he wants in place. what can be done to ensure that the american public understands that is not trump operating in a vacuum, that he actually has people, including the heritage foundation, for example, that are orchestrating this trump presidency. >> i would say that first of, all there is a phenomenon of leaders who have lost power, who returned to power, and who are much more autocratic and their second term, or the second attempt to power. putin is an example of that. the president of russia. he was out of, power he came back, you know, much better prepared to repress his country. to build a much more powerful dictatorship. there's a version of that in viktor orban, who's an autocratic leader of hungry. you're absolutely right to point to the fact that because it's the second term, because there are people who are prepared and ready, that we're in a different situation. i, mean i think the best thing we can do is what you are doing now,
i look at people like bill barr, kenneth chesebro, i look at the lawyers, also.n the judges that perhaps are the loyalist that he wants in place. what can be done to ensure that the american public understands that is not trump operating in a vacuum, that he actually has people, including the heritage foundation, for example, that are orchestrating this trump presidency. >> i would say that first of, all there is a phenomenon of leaders who have lost power, who returned to power, and who...
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that's in the wake of the leak of so called proffer videos where codefendants, jenna ellis, kenneth chesebrovealed to prosecutors what they knew about their codefendants in the case. the "atlanta journal-constitution" reports say prosecutors said the leaks were tantamount to witness intimidation. it would restrict their ability to mount a robust defense. the tapes provided a wealth of incredible new details about the efforts by donald trump and his allies to overturn the 2020 election, including an admission by a trump aide, that we are just going to stay in power despite the fact that court after court rejected their attempts to dispute the election results. revelations like that, they are the result of guilty pleas secured by the fulton county d.a., in a sweeping rico case, alleging a criminal enterprise to overturn the 2020 election result, and some o. most extensive remarks, fani willis said it could take years before the fate of donald trump and his codefendants are finally decided. potentially well after the american people have voted in 2024. >> i mean, i think the case will be on app
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and we've seen three of them, sid no powell, jenna ellis, and ken chesebro, all plead guilty in. so while i understand that it's his wish and that it's the wish of his allies to populate the federal government with people who are going to either bend the law or ignore the law or perhaps even break it in order to allow donald trump to do what he wants, there are other court, state courts that are part of our accountability system. it will be interesting to see if he can attract those people if you have folks pleading guilty and evidence being used, n criminal trials, the outcome of which we do not know to see what happens to those folks. >> such an interesting point. david and katie, thank you for spending time with us. andrew sticks around. >>> when we come back, we'll dig into the federal trial against the ex-president over those classified documents he took with him to mar-a-lago. that happened this afternoon. special counsel jack smith's team and attorneys for trump squared off on issues that could determine if and whether that trial still starts in may. >>> plus, a medical em
and we've seen three of them, sid no powell, jenna ellis, and ken chesebro, all plead guilty in. so while i understand that it's his wish and that it's the wish of his allies to populate the federal government with people who are going to either bend the law or ignore the law or perhaps even break it in order to allow donald trump to do what he wants, there are other court, state courts that are part of our accountability system. it will be interesting to see if he can attract those people if...